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Question about Ten Most Viewed Pages

Your ten most frequently viewed pages includes 9 entries featuring the word "homosexuality." This seems strange to me, especially as some of the entries are relatively new. Is there a possible alternative explanation for those sites showing up on the Top Ten, besides their popularity? I don't understand much about computers, but, for example, perhaps people have set up computers that repeatedly open up web pages on a particular site, just to skew the numbers?

Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harpers (talk)

I don't think the server logs would have that information. Philip J. Rayment 08:06, 5 December 2007 (EST)
Recommendation: Maybe you guys can track possible abuse using www.sitemeter.com or google analytics? Alexander 18:54, 11 December 2007 (EST)

Page move request

Could someone please move Ann Widdicombe to Ann Widdecombe (correct spelling). BrianCo 13:57, 5 December 2007 (EST)

Done. Philip J. Rayment 14:59, 5 December 2007 (EST)

Account Creation suggestion

Although I saw the comment that account creation is only allowed at certain times, it might be a good idea to let potential users know what these times are. It took me several attempts over two days to eventually "strike lucky". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Unclebill (talk)

I agree. It took me a few times to realise that you could only make an account at certain times during the day. I was trying to find how to make an account last night and gave up. Luckily, I found out an hour or so ago.--Joel 20:39, 25 December 2007 (EST)
Sorry you both had troubles registering. I'm sure the relevant people will take note of your issue and maybe something will be added to the registration page File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 20:45, 25 December 2007 (EST)
Agreed with all of the above, but I'm not sure where the info should be added.
  • The registration page is (if I recall correctly - my memory is acting up right now...) not accessible when account creation is disabled, so it would be of little use there ("If you can read this, you can register" is amusing, but not terribly helpful :P).
  • On the Login page, it might look a bit distracting (as the majority of users already has an account, so the info would be of little use for them).
Maybe our techies can hack up something to the effect of always having the "Register account" link available, but having it point at a "We're sorry, but account creation is currently disabled. Please try again at X o'clock in timezone Y" page? (I believe we have a Help page to that effect, but I also believe it's not exactly prominently linked for users who are new to the site). --JakeC 20:53, 25 December 2007 (EST)

Admin Question

How is it possible to become an Admin to help keep people from being stupid? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sohsowski (talk)

Admins aren't here to do that. Admins carry out essential maintenance of the site. One tip might be: "not to register an account and then throw mud at one's fellow editors" however :) File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 20:23, 25 December 2007 (EST)

Logo request

I'd like to create a link to Conservapedia on my websites. Can you provide a jpg of your logo? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Usmale (talk)

Conservapedia logo.png
Current Conservapedia logo - Copyright 2007 Philip Beach --Crocoite 15:43, 29 December 2007 (EST)
Um... no? It looks similar, but it's definitely different. The actually used file - different "Trustworthy Encyclopedia" font, and slightly different "Conservapedia" lettering. Can be easily seen when you look at the positions of the "v" and the last "a" in relation to the background. --JakeC 17:17, 31 December 2007 (EST)
Here you go.
Conservlogo logo highres2.png

CPWebmaster 20:03, 28 January 2008 (EST)

Found A Cuss Word

In the Userbox Index, there is a cuss word in a userbox in the uncategorized section.

It's called User lies and stats

In your third commandment, your call for family-friendly, clean, concise, and without gossip or foul language pages.

a kid could easily stumble into it.

I'm just trying to help Conservapedia.

Edit:

Opps, I didn't realized that I doubled posted, I thought that it didn't make it, sorry. Delete the other one please.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by EkulR29 (talk)

I see that Fox has deleted the template, and I've now deleted the link to it in the uncategorised index. Philip J. Rayment 01:26, 30 December 2007 (EST)

Confused by this message at my talk page

"Come back next year, when you're serious about helping write encyclopedia articles."

I didn't think there was restrictions on creating articles.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:EkulR29 (talk)

I can't speak for why you were blocked, but the "next year" thing was a joke, I think. You were blocked on December 31st for one day, so "next year" would only be one day later. 15:33, 3 January 2008 (EST)
You say it was 31st December, but when I look at his page history, it says that the message was left at 09:02 on 1st January, 2008. Of course, that is according to my time zone settings. What time zone is EkulR29 in? Yes, the message has 17:02 on 31st December on it, but at the very least, that could be "confusing".
EkulR29, I suspect that Ed Poor's comment may have been because you have made about 60 edits so far, only four of which were to anything other than this page and your user page. In other words, you seem to be more concerned with telling us about yourself (which is okay in itself) than with actually helping write an encyclopedia.
Philip J. Rayment 18:11, 3 January 2008 (EST)

How do you?

Ask for a change on a protected page? And is there any way to ask for a page to be unprotected? I imagine any vandalism could be fairly quickly reverted on many pages anyway. TheEvilSpartan 22:39, 3 January 2008 (EST)

To ask for a change on a protected page, ask on that page's talk page. To ask for a page to be unprotected, it's best to ask the Administrator who protected it. If that is not practicable, ask another Administrator. If you ask on the page's talk page, the first administrator to notice it could unlock it, but it's possible that nobody will notice for a while. If you ask on an Administrator's talk page, that Administrator should notice very quickly if they are on, or as soon as they next log on, but that might take a day or so (assuming they are not on holidays). If you choose to ask more than one administrator on their talk pages, let them know that you have asked others. Of course, in all such cases, your request might be declined. Philip J. Rayment 02:52, 4 January 2008 (EST)

Editing Help

I am having a hard time editing articles. Could you explain me how to go about that process? I'm used to using wikipedia, where they just have an edit button by the text, but here at Conservapedia I can't seem to find the edit button. Please help!

Same as on this page; third tab from the left at top of article. 10px Fox (talk|contribs) 21:21, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Uploading an images or images

How do I obtain upload privileges? I want to upload a picture on a page.

Christopher Persaud

You hang around for a long time until you are trusted with them. --Tim (CPAdmin1)talk Vote for President 15:29, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Please be more specific. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cperlobo (talk)

If you have a specific image you want to be uploaded then please submit it at image upload request. BrianCo 17:35, 27 January 2008 (EST)
See User rights (Requesting further rights), which is linked from Editor's guide which is in the welcome box on your talk page. Philip J. Rayment 19:16, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Firefox search bar

I'm not sure what is involved technically, but I use Mozilla Firefox as my internet browser and regularly use the search bar in the top right for Google and Wikipedia searches. Though this search bar recognizes Conservapedia as a possible search engine, Firefox won't allow me to add it as one. The message

Firefox could not download the search plugin from:
http://www.conservapedia.com/opensearch_desc.php

appears. I don't know if this is the correct place to report technical problems (or if you are already aware of this), but I thought I should report it. Is there a reason for this? Hampshire2600 20:10 29 January, 2008 (EST)

Enlisting College Student Help

I'm a member of a campus conservatives organization, and I think Conservapedia could definitely benefit by enlisting the help of college students to improve the quality of articles, as well as expand Conservapedia's contents. I might recommend creating some sort of program to encourage campus conservative groups to have a part in Conservapedia's development? Thanks! Honorbound Conservatives Alexander 19:21, 5 February 2008 (EST)

"In The News

Under "in the news" on the "Main Page" there is this entry: Liberal denial has begun for NIU killings: "Grad student killer didn't fit the profile," screams the Associated Press. In fact, the killer did fit the profile of a public school-trained atheistic: dressed in all black, was an above-average student (at age 27!), and obsessed with self-injury.

The above entry implies that all people who have attended public school fit the profile of someone who would murder people. This is a woefully inaccurate and unwise statement. There are other ideas I would like to share concerning the inappropriateness this entry, but it I would not want these additional comments to become public.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blazer (talk)

Question about Religion

Hi, I'm an atheist who stumbled upon this website after a friend told me about it. I am a Liberal, and although I disagree with some points you present on this site, one thing I found has truly offended me. In the artible "Examples of Bias in Wikipedia", the page begins with a graph showing the number of Wikipedia users by religion. It shows a large amount atheists compared to other religions. First of all, I read this as being considered a "problem", and I would like to know why. Secondly, I assume from the "Daily Bible Verse" that an overwhelming amount of Conservapedia users are Christians. Is that better? I assure you I'm not here to stir up a controversy, I'm just puzzled and would like a straight answer. VonShroom 19:59, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Perhaps the graph needs more explanation, but (not having put it there myself), I'd say that it's to illustrate the cause of much of the bias, with the number of atheists editing on Wikipedia being quite out of proportion of the number of atheists in society. Yes, a large proportion of Conservapedia users are Christians. This is more in proportion with their representation in society, particularly American society (where most of the editors would be from) and even if this were not so, Conservapedia is explicitly conservative, not neutral, as Wikipedia claims to be. Furthermore, I would claim that Christianity is the only true religion. People of other religions, including atheism, disagree, of course, but in most cases consider their religion to be the only correct one, so Christians are not alone in believing their religion to be correct. Atheists often claim that we shouldn't claim to be the correct religion because we can't know for sure, or they are all subjective, or some similar reasoning, but rarely substantiate this claim, and usually exempt their own beliefs from this statement on the self-serving grounds that atheism is not a religion (if you think that way, please read the Religion article). Philip J. Rayment 04:47, 24 February 2008 (EST)

UKIP

The current article on UKIP is a direct copy from Wikipedia. Administrators/sysops might care to check this and take appropriate action Koba 11:13, 1 March 2008 (EST)

I've reverted it and given the editor a 1-day block. Repeats will be dealt with more severely. BrianCo 11:15, 1 March 2008 (EST)
You don't waste much time - I hadn't even finished writing my first message! Koba 11:17, 1 March 2008 (EST)
I'm watching recent changes as I listen to the sport on TV so I spotted the plagiarism before I saw your message. It's always a big giveaway when the text is riddled with red-links and calls to templates that we don't have here. BrianCo 11:21, 1 March 2008 (EST)

Grammatical errors

Hi, I just looked up Palestine in Conservapedia and found two errors in the first few lines. Do you have editing and correcting capability? I love the idea of this website to combat the terrible Wikipedia, but to be taken seriously you must have a way to correct grammatical errors and awkward sentences. Otherwise, people won't use the website for reference. Thanks, Barb bhhawley4@gmail.com

Yes, when you go to most pages there is an "edit" tab at the top. Please correct our grammar and sentence structure if you see something that needs work! It's rare, but we sometimes make mistakes ;-) HelpJazz 00:39, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

A Call For Conservapedia's Rise to Activism

While the left continues to deride just about any effort the right makes to build a solid knowledgebase on the web, I saw in Conservapedia from its earliest days an opportunity to really build a powerhouse of information. In today's age of information warfare (between corporations, nation-states, and political organizations), managing vasts amounts of information has now become key in gaining the upper hand in any dispute.

I confess, I'm merely a small fish among thousands here, so I have no idea what major priorities the admins of this site are currently working on. Does Conservapedia have plans to become a powerful political tool for serious students and leaders within the conservative movement, or is it just a hobby? Think about it: there exists no alternative general conservative knowledgebase out there. Conservapedia is the only major conservative wiki (that I know of) that can fill a great need within the conservative movement. But I'm not sure that we're using this opportunity toward having an immediate impact on the world of politics today.

I say this, because anytime there's a news article or editorial that comes up, I like to look up the political background and information behind people and organizations. And unless the personality is unavoidably famous, my searches on this site turn up nothing. Maybe this is because much of what Conservapedia focuses on are broad issues, categories, scientific and religious doctrine rather than the current big players in today's world?

Consider that this is an election year. In political terms, we are now in a state of war, and the battle is about go nuclear once the Democrats crawl their way out of the mess they're in. But you wouldn't know it when you look at the most recent edits on this site. With so many registered users, why isn't there a concerted effort to dig up and record every detail of each candidate's career and policies? There are literally hundreds of conservative blogs out there recording precious intel that could be of great use to someone looking for a central location to find all that info. But much of the info you see here on Obama, for example, is mostly biographical.

I may be way off base in posting all of this, but I'm wondering, are there any plans like I'm describing already underway, or is this just beyond Conservapeida's priorities at this time? Alexander 22:33, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

We welcome suggestions and criticisms but, frankly, I'm not sure what you're suggesting here. Your only example is our Obama entry, which you complain is "mostly biographical." But what else would one expect about a political candidate, particularly one who has no clear beliefs of his own?
As to the supposedly great conservative blogs, I'm not sure what "precious intel" they are conveying that isn't in our entries. If you're referencing gossip, that's not going to make a difference and we're not going to waste time on it.
We welcome your contributions, and perhaps in reviewing those we can learn what you have in mind. Thanks and Godspeed.--Aschlafly 23:51, 31 March 2008 (EDT)
Aschlafly, the kinds of "blogs" I consider to be higher quality are littlegreenfootballs.com, hotair.com, and so on. These, I consider to be semi-reliable sources of cutting edge news, and they come out daily with useful information that would be handy in debates about the current Democratic candidates. If we think of an Conservapedia as an ocean of archived knowledge, then such news blogs can be endless fountainstreams of new information. All of us, who have been following the election process closely will easily recall many of the reasons why, for example, Barack Obama would be a terrible president. From the Reverend Wright comments, to his most recent remark about "clinging to guns or religion," to even more recent uncoverings of his promises to abortion lobbyists: "Well, the first thing I'd do as president is, is sign the Freedom of Choice Act." But a couple of years from now, few of us will remember those important details to pass down to those who come after us.
You can be sure Obama will continue to paint himself as someone who can "trascend party lines," but everything about the man's political (as opposed to merely biographical) history paints a very different picture. In short, suppose Conservapedia were developed into an information war machine, where most efforts during the election season would be used to collect the newest and latest information that would be useful for sustaining the conservative movement? I hope I'm making sense. Alexander 14:55, 14 April 2008 (EDT)


I might be a touch at odds with Aschlafly's aims here, but one problem I have with your (Alexander's) post is that it appears very American-centric. Philip J. Rayment 06:05, 1 April 2008 (EDT)
Philip J. Rayment, I don't mean to offend your sensibilities by focusing my earlier remarks toward an exclusively American audience. I acknowledge we Yanks have like-minded friends in other countries, but the reason for my message being tailored to U.S. citizens is because ours happens to be the one nation currently embroiled in a very hotly contested election season, where the future of conservative values is at stake. Additionally, one might well accuse this entire web site of being American-centric... just look at the logo! Alexander 14:55, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

Question

I saw up above that it's ok to copy things if you wrote them yourself. What if you didn't write them yourself, but the information is entirely accurate and you give sources? Like Wikipedia's stuff on math is really good and I'd like to work on that (as a place to start!), but if we can't use that stuff, then I'll start from scratch. OhioChris 12:40, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

You can use their sources as a starting point, but our copyright clauses are incompatable so you can not actually copy the text itself. HelpJazz 12:42, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

Kind of funny

This site is kind of funny, and it's rather nicely done to be convincing that it's serious, I especially like the American flag logo thingy, that's hilarious, but it's still somewhat lacking, are there any really amusing articles here? Frank88 23:38, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

An American flag logo is hilarious? Nevertheless, I'm glad we have brightened up your day. HenryS 23:40, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
Well ya, in its context, as an ironic symbol of conservatism, also the way it's displayed as Americans tend to do as if it's a symbol of greatness, it's a good parody. Frank88 23:48, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
Okay, whatever. Please familiarize yourself with the Conservapedia Commandments before editing. HenryS 23:51, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
Oh, I was hoping those would be funnier, I don't really like uncyclopedia, but this site has the potential to be funnier. Frank88 23:55, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

Website search option

Hello, Please move the search box higher on the page, so when you open Conservapedia you can type into the Search box without having to scroll down to find it. I can't imagine why the search box is so low on the page that you have to scroll down.

Also, It's difficult to find a link to contact Conservapedia! Phew! You should make it easier to contact you with questions.

I love Conservapedia and I hope it becomes MUCH bigger than Wikipedia!

Thank you, Barb

I agree that it's a problem, and I've looked before into changing it. There appears to be only two ways to do so. One is simply to reduce the size of the menus above it (which means eliminating some entries) and the other (although I'm not certain about this one) is to put it above "master control". In other words, it's not possible to put it between "master control" and "help" or between "help" and "supreme court". Philip J. Rayment 22:55, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

Front page

El que se sieta como rey en los cielos se rie, El Senor se burla de ellos! (Translated to English: He who sits in the heavens laughs, the Lord scoffs at them!). It should read "El que se sienta.... I would just like a project that I'm going to work on to not have an error on the front page. It on the part about castro. An accent should also be above the "E" in "El".Thanks--Die4Dixie 17:48, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

Trouble editing some pages

I noticed several duplicate Supreme Court Case articles, so I tried to turn the shorter versions of them into redirects. However, my changes are not being shown. This is especially strange because if you hit "edit" it shows my changes, but the actually article does not.

Here are the articles I am having trouble with:

Alyeska Pipeline Serv. Co. v. Wilderness Soc'y

CSX Transportation, Inc. v. Georgia State Board of Equalization

Dred Scott v. Sanford

I apologize if these mistakes are somehow my fault. FernoKlump 20:26, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

Hmm, nevermind. Whatever the problem was it seems to be fixed now. FernoKlump 20:36, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

Protecting titles of deleted articles

There are a lot of titles in Special:Allpages that aren't family friendly. Now that you have a new version of MediaWiki installed, you should use the protected titles functionality, as shown in Special:Protectedtitles, instead of redirecting to Conservapedia:Deletedpage. That way, they won't show up in the index. This link at mediawiki.org gives more information. --Elkman 23:28, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

Web problems

Is there some kind of problem with the CP server? When I click on a link in the site lately, I get a "cannot display the webpage" message, and I have to go back and try again, sometimes 3 or 4 times, before I get to the page I want. This even happens when I submit edits. I don't think it's a a problem with my computer because all non-CP webpages load with no problem. Has anyone else noticed this?--Frey 18:30, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Happens to me about 80% of the time. So frustrating! And it's definitely happening to other people, I've seen it mentioned.--Jareddr 20:57, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

As if August 2, it's been completely smooth sailing for three days or so. Whoever fixed it, thanks.--Frey 17:30, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

Photon

This page has been heavily vandalized with some sort of HTML script (I think, I'm not really an expert.) I don't know to fix it, so could someone with a bit of computer know-how go in and sort it out?

It's a problem with the "jargon" tag. I've edited the tag out of that article for now. Jinxmchue 09:59, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

Personal edit counter

My personal edit counter shows zero, even though I have added at least 5 external links, various quotes, and created a new article. Why?--American78 10:22, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

The edit counter is broken, but its author intends to fix it when he gets a chance. See here. Philip J. Rayment 10:36, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

"Encyclopedia"

I had hoped to find an addess to email directly but this was not readily available on the website. I simply wish to voice my displeaseure with your use of the word "encyclopedia". You are providing information which is clearly biased and the word "encyclopedia" is not appropriately used. This is simply my opinion and I feel compelled to voice my opposition to your use of the term in conjunction with the articles posted on this site. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Martinlaw (talk)

Show me an encyclopaedia that is not biased. Philip J. Rayment 10:28, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Contact

I keep getting blocked and there is no way to contact anyone! I've searched high and low for months, there is no way to contact anyone. I haven't violated any rules that are stated anywhere! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BrendanW (talk)

You've been answered elsewhere, but to put an answer here, if you have your e-mail enabled (as required), then there are a number of the administrators you can e-mail with the "E-mail this user" link. Philip J. Rayment 22:11, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

Link error on "Obama didn't write 'Dreams' Ayers did"

The link for the; "Obama didn't write 'Dreams' Ayers did"; story should be

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77815

--I see this has now been corrected.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by DavidDeering (talk)

user banned word

User talk:JessicaT has a new nickname. It is preventing the edit of talk pages including here own. Seems the banned word resides within the nickname. Unable to contact he to change. --Jpatt 16:17, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

Sorry about that. For some reason the signature I have been using for ages has been causing a problem. I've changed it, so it should be ok now. --KotomiTKonnichiha! 17:04, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

HELP - can't post on Jessica T's talk page

it says I was saying a bad word. (s h youknow the rest). this is the text I was trying to post "==Dates in Japan== Hi, Jessica. If I can make a suggestion, I would pull the section of "dates" from the Counting/numbering pages to make that page it's own page. I am Russian/French by heritage, have Vietnamese in my family by marriage, and have lived, like you, throughout the world. One of the single hardest things to keep track of (and one of the most critical) are dates, especially as with Japanese and Chinese, you need to know things like "who was the emperor" or "what dynasty was it" before you can even start the days. :-)--JeanJacques 16:54, 20 October 2008 (EDT)" Do you think this might be a bug?--JeanJacques 16:54, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

News article

On the O'Reilly Factor last night I saw a segment about a young Christian missionary named Christine Cloud (see page here) who was attacked by gay activists. I don't know anything about your news articles but I really think you should put this story up on the main page under news. Please look into it. Get me at User talk:AddisonDM if you want.

God bless!

  • AddisonDM, there is a project here for such items, located Here. You can also leave tips for sysop DeanS

Can't Edit anyway

I wish to make substantive eddits to articles, the problem is all of the articles i want to edit are locked. I understand the value of locking articles to prevent abuse. Who do i contact to give me edditng privilages/unblock articles/ submit changes to? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Trekdude31 (talk)--18:32, 28 November 2008

  • Surely there are at least 100 articles you would be interested in improving, aside from the small number locked? You can always post your ideas to the article's talk page, if your area(s) of interest is that limited, however. --₮K/Talk 23:57, 28 November 2008 (EST)
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