Debate:Does single sex schooling promote homosexuality?

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Yes

Well of course. People have a basic need for intimacy and do not loose this need because the socially accepted partners in this intimacy are unavailable.

I think it does, if private schools in Britain are anything to go by: [1] (please note - a "fag" in these schools is a junior boy who is a servant of a senior boy, running errands and so on. Nothing to do with "fag" meaning "a homosexual".) Totnesmartin 17:48, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

In the late 1800s a man named Kraft Ebing was the leading theorist on sexual deviancy (deviancy here has nothing to do with morality but just has to do with sexual acts that don't result in procreation). He did a lot of research into the causes of homosexuality and creates and convincing answer the the question, "Is homosexuality a choice or is it genetic." Ebing says its both. In his most well known work Psychopathia Sexualis he writes that some people are born homosexual and others become homosexual. He points to same sex schooling as one of the ways to "create" a homosexual for just the reason that was posted earlier. Humans have a basic need for sexuality, if a young heterosexual boy is placed in a place where there are no women around to release his need for a sexual relationship than he will turn to those who are around him, other boys in the same predicament. --blutengel

This same argument can then be expanded to explain sexual deviance among clergy in some denominations, who are segregated and thus prey on young boys as a result of sexual depravity. --TrueGrit 14:03, 9 October 2007 (EDT)

Yes, but in the limited sense. Consider prison: when guys enter prison, they either become the rapist, or the raped. These feelings of homosexual attraction (using that term loosely) are only defined by availability. When these cons get out of prison, they revert back to their previous heterosexuality. In a single-sex school, homosexual feelings and attitudes might develop, but may not last as the students are injected into a heterosexual society.

However, I think that it really depends on the school. My cousin attended a single-sex high school in New Jersey and he said that homosexuality was not so widespread, as they had various opportunities to interact with girls both in and out of school. I also know of a single-sex boarding school in Connecticut where buttrape is all over the place, but if you asked, most of the students would say they were straight. I'm not totally sure if I agree with the theory that single-sex education promotes homosexuality, however. ChrisQ 19:44, 5 March 2008 (EST)

No

No, single sex schooling doesn't promote homesexuality. Home schooling promotes homesexuality. --Frenchfries 08:37, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

How does home schooling promote homosexuality? -Lauren

I think it's a joke. The article title contains an amusing spelling error. Dpbsmith 21:18, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
Which I have changed to Debate:Does single sex schooling promote homosexuality?. --Ed Poor 21:29, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

Homosexuality is a sin. Sin in an innate aspect of the human condition because Eve ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil after God put it there and told here specifically not to eat that fruit. Therefore Homosexuality only occurs when people are told not to do it.

Which begs the question, why was it there in the first place, if its only purpose was to be tempation. Obviously we were meant to fail, for if any other outcome was expected the tree didn't need to exist. It is a representation of tempation that is nigh impossible to resist. Similarly, if we house teenage males, only with other males, they will feel a temptation to have sexual relations with other males. Whether or not they act upon such temptation is up to them. However, they will feel a similar temptation regardless of surrounding. So, are we saying the pre-marital sex with a girl is better than sex with a boy? --Brainwalker 02:18, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
Hmmm... What about Homosexual animals (it does happen!)? Were they told not to do it as well?--Sm355 18:50, 31 March 2007 (EDT)


<<...Therefore Homosexuality only occurs when people are told not to do it...>>

Only then? So, why do you (Global you, aimed at Christian Conservatives...) keep telling people not to do it? If you just stop telling people not to do it, it will stop happening, Yes?

Citizzzen

Only if those animals are told not to do it.Rebiu 15:39, 2 April 2007 (EDT)

That is exactly correct.Rebiu 15:39, 2 April 2007 (EDT)

Single sex schooling, you aren't serious. If you told me that liberal teaching promotes homosexuality, I would have to say hell yes it does. Not only does it promote but encourage such thoughts. Animals do it? WTF? So it is ok for humans? Boy, America is so messed up.*** Thousands upon thousands of years, homosexuals were looked at as deranged individuals. Now, our generation is so smart, smirk. Eventually, the homosexual movement will die out without reproduction. But at the same time, we must not let our youth be indoctrinated to this evil.--jp 21:53, 2 April 2007 (EDT)

Note: Heterosexual couples have homosexual children, thus reproduction of homosexuals in independent of homosexuals themselves.--Brainwalker 02:18, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
***Humans are animals. Ribbix 13:57, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
You should know that you just argued in favour of evolution. Not only that, but you have defied reason, as there is no proof that homosexuality is genetic. Fortunately for us, our generation is so smart, that eventually the conservative movement will die out without reproduction. Nobody wants to marry a bigot. --TrueGrit 23:28, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
Let me be clear, I never endorsed the notion that homosexuality is genetic nor evolution is responsible. If you read into what I wrote, this is a learned lifestyle. At 7 years old, the age of reason, you don't suddenly say- I'm gay, it is learned. Break the education factor, you are left with non reproducing lifestyle. Slowly fading away is not evolution but the result of no reproduction. Let me say this also, I do not proclaim to the absolute notion that stopping indoctrinating youth will ever happen. Thereby homosexuality will continue. As long as these people have rights, the promotion continues. As long as they are allowed to adopt children, the indoctrination continues. Just as it survived underground since times inception from our fall into sin, it will always be with us.--jp 17:56, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
I'd be interested to see a citation from where you're getting "you don't just decide that you're gay at 7 years old", because Dateline says different. I'll go pull up some citations of kids outing themselves as "gay" at extremely young ages. On a side note, jp, do you believe that homosexuality is a choice? --Hojimachongtalk 18:00, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
Dateline, please. If they are outing themselves it is from learning it. Conservatives understand that homosexuality is a sin against God. Bigotry will always be with us as well. Conservatives are not bigoted because they dislike homosexuality. The gay movement is not a protected civil right. We love the sinner, we hate the sin. We love the gay person, we hate the gay agenda. The only bigotry displayed is against the conservative view.--jp 18:05, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
Way to completely change the subject and go on a rant. Anyways, here is one I pulled up. 3 straight children, 1 bi.
You can find articles all day long that prove your views are just. Let me tell you there are plenty of other websites where your view is accepted. Why don't you post on a liberal website. --jp 18:23, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
My views are accepted here as well; we don't block over content disputes. And you're still dodging the question, does SSS promote homosexuality? You never answered the question. I said no; I think you probably would say "yes"? --Hojimachongtalk 18:29, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
Chong, figure it out, what does learned mean?--jp 18:54, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
My views are accepted here as well; we don't block over content disputes. Not from what I read about you. http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Abuse#ACLU_and_Evolution --jp 16:09, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
Speaking from personal experience, I can safely say that it's not because it's accepted that it exists. I grew up very conservative, and I always had issues with homosexuality. Of course, because I thought it was wrong I hated myself for looking at other males. Since that time I've found myself, and am a much better person. The mind, like a book, works best when open. --TrueGrit 00:38, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

It isn't a sin because God made you that way. Ribbix 13:59, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

I'm gay and I went to a co-ed public school system. As far as I know, I was always gay. From my earliest memories I was drawn more to males than females, and not only in a sexual way. Friend-wise, sports-wise, etc. I find the idea of a school environment somehow influencing a person's sexual orientation simply laughable. We don't know what causes a person to be straight or gay, but I guarantee you that it isn't school.--Patthew 12:45, 12 June 2007

Of course not. There's plenty of time for kids and teens to socialise with the opposite sex outside of school, whether in single sex schooling or not. If anything, single sex schools increase the want to be with the opposite sex, as curiosity arises amongst the students. I myself attended a single sex school and found that almost every girl there was heterosexual, whereas in the local mixed schools, there were a few homosexual students. However, noone is sure of the cause of homosexuality, and therefore it is unfair to say whether schooling has anything to do with it. --LauraF 08:59, 25 February 2009 (EST)

An interesting debate, but perhaps based on a faulty premise. After all, single sex schools are not prisons! In my opinion, single sex schooling is actually an asset in formative years to the prevention of homosexuality. By keeping boys with boys and girls with girls, traditional gender roles are reinforced. People who may be susceptible to gender confusion will have their problems straightened out at an early stage. If you see a sheep straying from the flock, you should bring it back and keep the flock tight together. If it strays too far, it may be lost forever... Same sex schooling does its service in reinforcing masculinity and feminity, as well as amplifying the interest in the opposite sex. In this sense, I agree with LauraF, though I don't agree with her final assessment. -Foxtrot 12:03, 25 February 2009 (EST)

OTHER

promote? no......cuase? maybe.... --Wally 13:35, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

Boarding Schools or in General

If boarding schools where students are locked in to the school grounds for long periods then maybe. In a situation where social contacts outside the school occur then there would seem no factors preffering homosexuality. There is evidence that single sex classes improve education, perhaps by reducing expected gender roles. Markr 13:40, 17 October 2008 (EDT)

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