Debate:The Declaration of Independence or Interdependence?

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Your Declaration

Which one do you fall under? The Declaration of Independence of 1776 that began this great country; or the declaration of interdependence which began the quest for global governance at the 1992 Earth Summit?--Roopilots6 11:55, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

You might need to include some links. I don't think many people are familiar with the latter. CraigC 12:02, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

One example to get you started - [1] and also look these phrases up on any search engine - Agenda 21 declaration of interdependence - earth charter declaration of interdependence - or Earth Charter.--Roopilots6 13:11, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

I don't think you have to be one or the other. I'm a proud American as well as a citizen of earth. CraigC 14:27, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

The difference being that one is the antithesis of the other. So that you can't claim to be both. If you do though you are more likely ascribing to the one over the other. Which is one of the points of this debate. The difference being the Declaration of Independence is one of the founding documents of the USA along with the Constitution and Bill of Rights. It affirms inalienable rights to individuals and limits governmental powers. The Declaration of Interdependence doesn't affirm any inalienable rights nor does it limit the power of the state over the individual. In fact it only mentions the collective of humanity as if it were a single element of nature. It seems to have more of a concern about humanities impact on nature and the ecological integrity of the Earth. In contrast with the Declaration of Independence it mandates the totalitarian role of government to control and regulate everything. Its language is that of collectivism and whose goal is nothing short of a worldwide socialist order. All packaged in warm and fuzzy, touchy feely wording meant to hide its despicable goals with fluffy doublespeak.--Roopilots6 15:33, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Choosing wisely

Then pledge your allegiance. Which one will you choose? To live independently and free from oppression? Or do you prefer dependency on others to have authority over your decisions? To worship at the altar of interdependency which is representative of the Earth Charter which is housed in the Ark of Hope? The revered Charter is transported in the Ark of Hope, a blasphemous mimicry of the Judeo-Christian Ark of the Covenant, which held the two tablets containing the Ten Commandments that God gave to Moses. The counterfeit Ark of Hope is actually designed to look like the Ark of the Covenant and its devotees carry it around with worshipful solemnity. It is marked with occultic devices inside as well as outside so as to leave no doubt to any observer of what it truly represents. Make your declaration of independence today. Or declare your interdependency to your oppressive masters who have already declared you as a willing servant to their will. Will you be a self proclaimed citizen of the world or a citizen of the United States of America?--Roopilots6 09:33, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

Citizen of the World or of the United States of America?

For many people the emotional response has been conditioned by teachers and the media. Yet very few Americans can even see a difference between the two even though they are opposites. Unfortunately many Americans can't even tell the difference between capitalism or socialism. Moreover they most often will make decisions based on emotions and feelings rather than attempt to understand the differences between the two positions.--Roopilots6 18:53, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

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