Debate:Was the shooting at Virginia Tech somehow President Bush's fault?

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The federal government was not very efficent during the aftermath of Katrina, but as the size of the organization increases, the inefficiency decreases. Irresponsibly, however, must be laid at the feet of local and state government.

Why didn't Mayor Nagin have an effective evacuation plan in place? Why weren't the school buses used for evacuation, or at least moved to higher ground? Nagin failed badly, but in his defense I suppose one does grow complacent after awhile. A real leader would have accepted rsponsibility for his failure.

Now to the state level. I heard the telepnone call between Blanco and GW. Yes, she really did say "give me all you've got". That is terrible substitution for a documented request from her emergency coordinator. Why did she forbid the military from coming in for so long. Why was the state guard not on alert. Yeah, I heard the press say they were all in Iraq, but they dropped that line pretty quick. I'd like to know the real figures on what per cent were actually unavailible due to service in Irag. Blanco was either incompetent, playing poitics or both.

And does anyone really believe that a failed infrastucture, in an Democratic state which boasts (or at least used to) the most corrupt state government in the history in the US, is somehow GW's fault? If so, I'd like to hear the logic. .User:barker1949/barker1949 16 Jan 2008 (EDT)


Not so much that the Bus was to blame for Katrina, but the bush family acted racist and irresponsibly after the event, and the government did very little to prevent it from becoming the huge disaster it was. Example, Bush said nobody knew the levys would break, but actualy, all that prevoius week it said they would. Delamancha 08:36, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Adam ate the apple because of president Bush. --BenjaminS 08:10, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

Hahahahah this is great. Were the tainted peanutbutter illness cause be president Bush's shrinking of the FDA?Rebiu 13:14, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

Snicker TeeHee. Was the Quagmire in Iraq caused by bush ignoring and then firing the general who told him he needed half a million troops?Rebiu 13:14, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

Which President Bush? Dpbsmith 14:09, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

Har Har Har that is hilarious Dpbsmith. I guess the answer is both yeeehaaaaw.Rebiu 12:40, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

Was a strong economy and no new terror attacks President Bush's failed strategy?--jp 23:07, 20 April 2007 (EDT)

Now that is funny JpattRebiu 11:45, 21 April 2007 (EDT)
Know what else is funny, every Bush hater can't say a single good thing about GWB, not one thing.--jp 20:15, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

Should the Virginia Tech incident be considered a Terrorist attack that occured in the homeland? Should it be considered a major terrorist attack?Rebiu 11:49, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

Since in the eyes of the conservatives, there is nothing redeeming about those Liberals, I suppose in the eyes of Liberals, everything is Bush's fault. Something just occurred to me, we are perfectly polarized and talk past one another. Time for someone else to take over. User:Seekcommon

That is not really funny. GWB is a solid conservative and a shining example of what a conservativly lead world can beRebiu 11:54, 23 April 2007 (EDT)
GWB is a senile old bat. Now, his FATHER was actually a decent leader.--Elamdri 12:15, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

Hahaha, maybe he's responsible for me losing my car keys this morning too ; )--Fingermouse 12:19, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

That really lame Fingermouse. You are like the slow guy that ruins the ride for everyone elseRebiu 11:31, 27 April 2007 (EDT)

How about contributing more articles and less talk and ad hominems Rebiu. 90/10 is more like 100/0 in your case. Trashbat 11:41, 27 April 2007 (EDT)

In the words of this most highly intelligent Prsident, 'if this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator...having proven his obvious 'Political Tact' and 'ambition' (note the inverted commas) I must say that this is not really something to joke about. Though I must say...in defence of Rebiu who I think is genious...Trashbat, why don't you just get a sense of humour and stop being so stiff...it was a disaster but even so, this is not serious so chill out mate. Cheers :) keep 'em coming Rebiu, v. good (User:bealecr) 16:43, 28 April 2007 (EDT)

Was the shooting at Virginia Tech Bush's fault? Absolutely not! Bush ahd nothing to do with it! He was off doing something presidential and then he receives word that there was a shooting. He did nothing to to cause the attack. If this is Bush's fault, then other things that were out of his control wer his fault, like the crucifiction of Jesus. Because Bush didn't act, then Jesus died. That sure makes sense doesn't it! Also, another side note. Bush did nothing wrong during the Katrina incident if you want to get right down to the constitution. He should not be the one to blame. It is not the president's responsibility to send aid to victims of this nature. It is the responsibility of the governor of the state to take action to aid the victims. If any body should be blamed, it's the governor. Bush picked up the slack of the governor who dropped the ball, and now he gets ridiculed for it. Also I would like to point out that a similar storm hit texas and wiped out an entire city. NOw I don't want to sound racist, so here are the plain and simple facts. You can look it up if you want. The people in texas were all white. Did you notice how you never heard about it? It's because they picked themselves up and fixed the town themselves. There was no FEMA there to help. They helped themselves. The hurricane destroyed the entire city. There was more damage done to texas than was done to new orleans. What happened in new orleans? the black people laid down to die, or let FEMA help them by giving them money. I don't want to be racist, because there are certainly white people who are this way and were in the same boat as the black people, but the majority of the FEMA aid went to black people who waited for the government to come to the rescue so they could just sit back and lazily wait for help. They usually made no effort to get out of harms way. Anyone--white, black, or pink with purple polka dots--who doesn't even make an effort to get out of harms way and who just sit around waiting for the super hero government to come along, don't deserve the help they get. This, of course, does not count for those who are unable to evacuate due to a legitimate disability. Only then do you have the right to wait for someone else to help you. But if you are to lazy to even get your ass out of the way of a hurricane, then you deserve everything you get. mattfelton

Not Many Are Claiming it Is

I've not seen many people directly blaming President Bush. I do see many conservatives like Rush Limbaugh bending over backwards to blame liberals and even the liberal arts department where Cho studied, even though his instructors seem to have done everythiing they could. --PF Fox 12:23, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

No one is to blame

Things just happen, the need to blame, the need to find a cause, and the need to go over it again and again and again, and to create some sort of grand community response is actually a phenomenon I am really curious about. I have started a project to examine these themes in more detail, anyone interested in contributing or exploring (its wiki and forum based) should check out [1] (WARNING: Its not conservapedia, there are examples of strong language, evolutionary thought, and atheistic themes so you know if you should stay out or not). Tmtoulouse 11:47, 27 April 2007 (EDT)

Pain and suffering always precedes the glory of the resurrection. Translated; we know not when our last breath will take place. Be sure to live your life the best it is meant to be. --jp 23:19, 29 April 2007 (EDT)

Blame the media and a crueler society Delamancha 08:34, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Crazy!

Ridiculous if people think the President is to blame. Everyone wants someone else to blame for their own failures. If anyone is to "blame" (and it's hard to say if there is) it would be the close friends and family of this young man. We all have a responsability to look out for those GOD puts into lives. Jason 22:34, 10 October 2007 (EDT)

The fact that people are all blaming President Bush is wrong. Virginia Tech was definately not his fault. Hurracaine Katrina was alos not his fault. How could he have caused that? When hurracaine Katrina did happen, President Bush sent 30 million dollars to the governor to relieve the people of New Orleans. But the people only received 1 million! I wonder where that went? Hummmmmmmm well it was sent out from the government to the governor but didnt make it to the picture. Was it the governor? Duh..... he then blamed it all on President Bush. Man i hate it when all the democrats do this. They talk of preserving the country, but they are cutting it in half and serving it to the devil. So stop blaming you own President!!! dgj5 7:27, 7 November 2007

GEORGE W BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT VIRGIN PEOPLE Underscoreb 22:40, 12 November 2007 (EST)

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