Essay: New Atheist Kyle Kulinski defeated
In addition, using the definition of atheism that encyclopedias of philosophy use, Kulinski was unable to provide proof and evidence that atheism is true. Mr. Kulinski, what do you have against encyclopedias of philosophy - especially prominent ones like the Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy and the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy?
He was offered a Atheism vs. Christianity written debate and predictably he cowardly declined (see: Atheism and cowardice). As a result, Mr. Kulinski was added to the list of atheist/agnostic cowards given in Conservapedia's atheism and cowardice article!
Additionly, Kulinsky claimed that a Conservapedia Christian first believed that Christianity is true and then tried to gather evidence for its veracity rather than first examine the evidence and then come to a conclusion. Of course, he offered no evidence for this claim which is especially embarrassing given that using the definition of atheism that encyclopedias of philosophy use, Kulinski was unable to provide proof and evidence that atheism is true. See also: Evidence for Christianity
7 points for Kyle Kulinski
1. Rather than logically refute a matter using data/facts, Kyle Kulinski used the genetic fallacy to dispute a claim in the Conservapedia article. Mr. Kulinski whining that a source is a Christian source does not refute the material in that source. Mr. Kulinsky, if you you could be more logical in the future, it would be appreciated. See also: Atheism and irrationality and Atheism and logical fallacies
2. The atheism and mass murder related material cites valid statistics about atheist communism from secular scholars and other sources. In fact, the leading expert on democide was cited. And Marxist-Leninist communism was explicitly atheistic (see: Atheism and communism).
By the way, atheistic communists also engaged in plenty of torture. For example, please read The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
3. Given his commentary about atheism and intelligence, Kyle Kulinski appears not to be as knowledgeable as he could be about the issue of atheism and intelligence (see: Atheism and intelligence).
4. Mr. Kulinski, you dispute the matter of the moral depravity of the atheist community, yet you did not refute the material on this matter (see: Atheist population and immorality and Atheism statistics).
5. You claimed that Conservapedia indicates that the main cause of atheism is moral depravity. Yet, the causes of atheism article never claims this. It merely lists a number of causal factors. Mr. Kulinski did you make this false claim due to negligence or malice?
Also, Kulinski claimed that the Conservapedia atheism article contains no facts. Is this true or is this a falsehood?
For example, the Conservapedia atheism indicates:
On January 1, 2011, CNN reported:
|“|| People unaffiliated with organized religion, atheists and agnostics also report anger toward God either in the past, or anger focused on a hypothetical image - that is, what they imagined God might be like - said lead study author Julie Exline, Case Western Reserve University psychologist.
In studies on college students, atheists and agnostics reported more anger at God during their lifetimes than believers.
Does Kulinski deny that CNN reported this? If so, why? Why is Kulinski so frantic to deny that the Conservapedia article contains facts when it clearly does?
6. Mr. Kulinski, you complained about the Bible being written by individuals in the ancient past. Are you familiar with the appeal to novelty logical fallacy? Is this another case of an atheist being arrogant and illogical? See: Atheism and arrogance and Atheism and logic
7. Mr. Kulinski, one of the editors of the Conservapedia atheism article made a number of edits to improve the quality of the Secular Talk article. An atheist website conceded that the quality of the article was improved.
Yet, you made no acknowledgement of this matter. There must be some reason why you did this. What is it? Did you employ the fallacy of exclusion in your latest video? Mr. Kulinkski, after being defeated by Conservapedia in some recent challenges, are you desperate for a victory?
- 1 7 points for Kyle Kulinski
- 2 Additional rebuttals to Kyle Kulinski's latest video
- 3 Final questions for Kyle Kulinski related to his newest video
- 4 A word of thanks to Kyle Kulinkski
- 5 Enjoy the 21st century Mr. Kulinski. Global atheism is in decline
- 6 One last thing Mr. Kulinski: Heed the warning!
- 7 Notes
Additional rebuttals to Kyle Kulinski's latest video
- Fellow Atheists: Quit Bragging About Our Prison Underrepresentation (Atheist source - Skepchick website)
- Does atheism thrive on economic prosperity? Does religion prosper when people are desperate and ignorant?
- Harvard University historian Niall Ferguson declared: "Through a mixture of hard work and thrift the Protestant societies of the North and West Atlantic achieved the most rapid economic growth in history." (See: Protestant work ethic and capitalism).
Mr. Kulinski, you claimed that atheists are more knowledgeable about religion than the religious. The largest population of atheists in the world is in China. How knowledgeable are Chinese atheists about religion (Atheists who live in a country which engages in repression of the religious See: Persecution of Christians in China at record high, Jerusalem Post, 2015)? How knowledgeable are North Koreans about religion (According to Wikipedia, a wiki founded by an atheist and agnostic, "There are no known official statistics of religions in North Korea. North Korea is an atheist state where public religion is discouraged".)? See also: Militant atheism
If atheists have been so knowledgeable about religion, then why did atheism collapse so quickly in the former atheistic Soviet Union after it fell? See: Collapse of atheism in the former Soviet Union
According to the University of Cambridge, historically, the "most notable spread of atheism was achieved through the success of the 1917 Russian Revolution, which brought the Marxist-Leninists to power." Vitalij Lazarʹevič Ginzburg, a Soviet physicist, wrote that the "Bolshevik communists were not merely atheists but, according to Lenin's terminology, militant atheists." However, prior to this, the Reign of Terror of the French Revolution established an atheist state, with the official ideology being the Cult of Reason; during this time thousands of believers were suppressed and executed by the guillotine.
In 2003, the Weatherhead Center for International Affairs at Harvard published a paper by Assaf Moghadam entitled A Global Resurgence of Religion? which declared:
|“|| As the indications leave little doubt, Russia is showing clear signs of a religious resurgence. In fact, all seven criteria by which change in religious behavior and values are measured here confirmed that Russia is experiencing what could be called a religious revival. Since 1970, the nonreligious/atheist population has been on steady decline, from 52% in 1970 to 33% in 2000. Further, the percentage of this population is projected to decrease even further, possibly reaching the 20% mark in 2025. Between 1990 and 1997, belief in God has risen from 35% to a whopping 60%, while belief in the importance of God has climbed to 43% in 1997, up from 25% in 1990. More people have been raised religious in Russia in 1997 (20%) than at the beginning of the decade (18%), and 8.39% more Russians believed religion to be important toward the end of the 1990s, when compared to 1990. “Comfort in Religion” has also sharply increased within this time period, from less than 27% to over 46%. Finally, more and more Russians attend church services more regularly in 1997 than they did in 1990.
In the three Eastern European countries that were included in the WVS survey on belief in God, a drastic rise could be witnessed of respondents who answered this question in the affirmative. In Hungary, the percentage of believers in God jumped from 44% to 58% from 1981 to 1990, even prior to the collapse of the former Soviet Union. In Belarus, the number of people who believe in God nearly doubled over the course of the 1990s, from 36% to 68%, while in Latvia this figure almost quadrupled, from 18% to 67% in the same time period. Similar trends held true when it came to the importance of God, where there was a sharp rise in all three countries.
In 2012, a Georgetown University study was published indicating that only about 30 percent of those who grow up in an atheist household remain atheists as adults. See also: Atheism and its retention rate in individuals
A 2012 study by the General Social Survey of the social science research organization NORC at the University of Chicago found that belief in God rises with age, even in atheistic nations. Mr. Kulinski, didn't you say that Christian thinking was childish and adult thinking is atheistic? Are you wrong about this matter? Was your little tirade/rant rather childish? Which reflects a higher degree of maturity and more gravitas: The Apostle Paul's letters or Richard Dawkins' many Twitter tweet embarassments? Remember, you said you admire Richard Dawkins. Does your admiration reflect a lack of maturity? See also: Atheism and immaturity and Richard Dawkins' loss of influence
Mr. Kulinski, why is Christianity growing so fast in China which has the largest atheist population? See: Growth of Christianity in China. Remember, you claimed that atheists are more knowledgeable about religion than the religious. Is this true in China as well or do the militant atheists in the Chinese communist government futilely attempt to suppress knowledge about religion?
On November 1, 2014, an article in The Economist entitled Cracks in the atheist edifice declared:
|“|| Officials are untroubled by the clash between the city’s famously freewheeling capitalism and the Communist Party’s ideology, yet still see religion and its symbols as affronts to the party’s atheism...
Yang Fenggang of Purdue University, in Indiana, says the Christian church in China has grown by an average of 10% a year since 1980. He reckons that on current trends there will be 250m Christians by around 2030, making China’s Christian population the largest in the world. Mr. Yang says this speed of growth is similar to that seen in fourth-century Rome just before the conversion of Constantine, which paved the way for Christianity to become the religion of his empire.
Mr. Kulinkski, is this yet another example of atheists being ignorant about history? See: Atheists and historical illiteracy
Thank you for admitting that you are an agnostic/weak atheist in your latest video. Given that you are a weak atheist (or should I say an exceedingly weak atheist), it was was no surprise that you cowardly turned down my debate offer!
By the way, if your knowledge of atheism/agnosticism/religion/philosophy is indicative of the world atheist population at large, atheism is in trouble. Is there anything more weak and fragile than atheist arguments? Vases and eggs look strong in comparison! See: Rebuttals to atheist arguments and Atheism debates
In 1990, the atheist philosopher Michael Martin indicated there was a general absence of an atheistic response to contemporary work in the philosophy of religion and in jest he indicated that it was his "cross to bear" to respond to theistic arguments. Yet, in 1994, Michael Martin was criticized for his eleventh hour cancellation of his debate with Greg Bahnsen (see: Greg Bahnsen and debate and Bahnson-Martin debate press release).
Enjoy the 21st century Mr. Kulinski. Global atheism is in decline
Professor Eric Kaufmann, who is an agnostic, told a secular audience in Australia: "The trends that are happening worldwide inevitably in an age of globalization are going to affect us." Furthermore, Kaufmann also argues that secularization may reverse itself significantly earlier than 2050 in the West due to religious immigration and a religious population which is increasingly resistant to secularization in Europe.
Enjoy the 21st century, Mr. Kulinski. I know I certainly will!
One last thing Mr. Kulinski: Heed the warning!
One last thing, Mr. Kulinski. I do enjoy how your fellow progressives decimated the reach of the New Atheists post Elevatorgate. Prior to Elevatorgate, Conservapedia created the Richard Dawkins and women and Atheism and women articles. Subsequently, Dawkins stepped on the feminism landmine!
If only Dawkins had heeded Conservapedia's warming to treat ladies more nicely, all of the Elevatorgate unpleasantness could have been avoided! Since Elevatorgate, Dawkins' outreach to the public has never been the same. See: Richard Dawkins' loss of influence
Mr. Kulinski, you have been publicly chastised for your falsehoods/misrepresentations, illogical behavior and cowardice. Heed the warning! It is time to grow a spine and accept Conservapedia's atheism vs. Christianity debate offer.
- Richard Dawkins accused of cowardice for refusing to debate existence of God, The Daily Telegraph, May 14, 2011
- Multiple references:
- Smart, J. J. C. (August 8, 2011). "Atheism and agnosticism". The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Spring 2013 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.). Retrieved July 17, 2014.
- Sarfati, Jonathan, Ph.D. (23 June 2007). "Atheism is more rational?". Retrieved July 17, 2014. See Creation Ministries International, Jonathan Sarfati.
- Day, Donn R. (2007). "Atheism - etymology". Retrieved July 15, 2014.
- Michael Hesemann, Whitley Strieber (2000). The Fatima Secret. Random House Digital, Inc.. Retrieved on 09 October 2011. “Lenin's death in 1924 was followed by the rise of Joseph Stalin, "the man of steel," who founded the "Union of Militant Atheists," whose chief aim was to spread atheism and eradicate religion. In the following years it devastated hundreds of churches, destroyed old icons and relics, and persecuted the clergy with unimaginable brutality.”
- Paul D. Steeves (1989). Keeping the faiths: religion and ideology in the Soviet Union. Holmes & Meier. Retrieved on 04 July 2013. “The League of Militant Atheists was formed in 1926 and by 1930 had recruited three million members. Five years later there were 50,000 local groups affiliated to the League and the nominal membership had risen to five million. Children from 8-14 years of age were enrolled in Groups of Godless Youth, and the League of Communist Youth (Komsomol) took a vigorous anti- religious line. Several antireligious museums were opened in former churches and a number of Chairs of Atheism were established in Soviet universities. Prizes were offered for the best 'Godless hymns' and for alternative versions of the Bible from which ... the leader of the League of Militant Atheists, Yemelian Yaroslavsky, said: "When a priest is deprived of his congregation, that does not mean that he stops being a priest. He changes into an itinerant priest. He travels around with his primitive tools in the villages, performs religious rites, reads prayers, baptizes children. Such wandering priests are at times more dangerous than those who carry on their work at a designated place of residence." The intensified persecution, which was a part of the general terror inflicted upon Soviet society by Stalin's policy, ...”
- Landau, Elizabeth (January 1, 2011). "Anger at God common, even among atheists". CNN/The Chart website. Retrieved on September 23, 2014.
- The Protestant Work Ethic: Alive & Well…In China By Hugh Whelchel on September 24, 2012
- Religion in North Korea, Wikipedia, a website founded by an atheist and agnostic
- "Investigating atheism: Marxism". University of Cambridge (2008). Retrieved on July 17, 2014. “The most notable spread of atheism was achieved through the success of the 1917 Russian Revolution, which brought the Marxist-Leninists to power. For the first time in history, atheism thus became the official ideology of a state.”
- Vitalij Lazarʹevič Ginzburg (2009). On Superconductivity and Superfluidity: A Scientific Autobiography p. 161. Springer Science+Business Media. Retrieved on July 17, 2014. “The Bolshevik communists were not merely atheists but, according to Lenin's terminology, militant atheists.”
- Multiple references:
- James Adair (2007). Christianity: The eBook p. 461. JBE Online Books. Retrieved on July 18, 2014. “Although the Civil Constitution called for religious liberty, which was extended to Jews as well as Christians, many revolutionaries pushed for the establishment of a new state religion, either the Cult of Reason (atheists) or the Cult of the Supreme Being (Deists). Changes to the calendar eliminated references to Christian holidays, and even the ancient seven-day week, and a list of officially recognized saints included such famous thinkers such as Socrates, Jesus, Marcus Aurelius, and Jean-Jacques Rousseau. A period of political persecution, often with religious overtones, broke out, known as the Reign of Terror. Thousands of people were executed by the guillotine, including many of the original leaders of the French Revolution.”
- William Belsham (1801). Memoirs of the Reign of George III. to the Session of Parliament ending A.D. 1793, Volume 5 pp. 105-6. G.G. & J. Robinson. Retrieved on July 18, 2014. “In allusion to the monstrous transactions of this portentous period, it has been eloquently and energetically observed, 'that the reign of atheism in France was avowed the reign of terror. In the full madness of their career, in the highest climax of their horrors, they shut up the temples of God, abolished His worship, and proclaimed death to be an eternal sleep:—in the very centre of Christendom, Revelation underwent a total eclipse, while atheism, performing on a darkened theatre its strange and fearful tragedy, confounded the first elements of society, blended every age, rank, and sex, indiscriminate proscription and massacre, and convulsed all Europe to its centre, that the imperishable memorial of these events might teach the last generations of mankind to consider religion as the pillar of society, the parent of social order, and the safe-guard of nations.'
"It is wonderful that, amid the horrors of this dismal period, while 'the death dance of democratic revolution' was still in rapid movement, among the tears of affliction, and the cries of despair, 'the masque, the song, the theatric scene, the buffoon laughter, went on as regularly as in the gay hour of festive peace.'”
- William Kilpatrick (2012). Christianity, Islam, and Atheism: The Struggle for the Soul of the West p. 57. Ignatius Press. Retrieved on July 18, 2014. “Actually, it's helpful to think in terms of two Enlightenments: the Enlightenment that cut itself off from God. The former led to the American Revolution, the Declaration of Independence, the abolition of slavery, and the civil rights movement. The latter led to the French Revolution, the Reign of Terror, the suppression of church by state, and the godless philosophies of Marx and Nietzsche and their offspring—National Socialism and communism. More recently the abandonment of God has led to the regime of cultural relativism that regards rights as arbitrary constructions.
"It's this second Enlightenment tradition that Cardinal Ratzinger referred to when he wrote, 'The radical detachment of the Enlightenment philosophy from its roots ultimately leads it to dispense with man.' Actually this transition happened not 'ultimately' but almost immediately. The first instance occurred when Enlightenment worship of abstract 'reason' and 'liberty' degenerated quickly into the mass murders committed during the antireligious Reign of Terror in France. 'Liberty, what crimes are committed in your name', said Madam Rolande as she faced the statue of Liberty in the Place de la Revolution movements before her death at the guillotine. She was one of the early victims of a succession of secular systems based on rootless notions of 'liberty', 'equality', and 'reason'.
"As many historians have pointed out, the atheist regimes of modern times are guilty of far more crimes than any committed in the name of religion. Communist governments alone were guilty of more than one hundred million murders, most of them committed against their own people.”
- A Global Resurgence of Religion? by Assaf Moghadam, Weatherhead Center for International Affairs at Harvard University
- Study: Atheists Have Lowest 'Retention Rate' Compared to Religious Groups
- Study: Atheists Have Lowest 'Retention Rate' Compared to Religious Groups
- Harms, William (April 18, 2012). "Belief in God rises with age, even in atheist nations". UChicagoNews. Retrieved July 16, 2014.
- The 12-Stage 'Evolution' Of A Richard Dawkins Twitter Scandal by Paul Vale, The Huffington Post UK, Posted: 22/08/2014 02:06 BST
- Cracks in the atheist edifice, The Economist, November 1, 2014
- Bahsen at the Stein debate by John Frame
- The Great Debate: Greg Bahnsen vs Gordon Stein
- Open Questions: Diverse Thinkers Discuss God, Religion, and Faith by Luís F. Rodrigues, page 201
- The Great Debate: Greg Bahnsen vs Gordon Stein
- Bahsen at the Stein debate by John Frame
- Shall the religious inherit the earth
- *European immigration will pour Christian creationists into Europe