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Lamech the Murderer

I don't like the reference to "Lamech the murderer". It is accurate, and there needs to be some distinction between the two Lamech's but I've never heard him referred to as "Lamech the murderer". Whatever we do, it should be simply "Lamech" in the list on this page, but the link being to something else ("Lamech, son of Methusael"?). Philip J. Rayment 07:23, 4 July 2007 (EDT)

It is only accurate insofar as he admits to having killed (הרג - put to death) in Gen 4:23, and even there he qualifies it by saying that the first man he killed had wounded (פּצע) him and drew blood first, and the second had wounded him without drawing blood (חבּוּרה). The context is one of נקם - avenge/punish - so it is more correct to call him "Lamech the Avenger". His treatment as a "murderer" is really only in the non-Scriptural Book of Moses from the Latter Day Saints canon. Perhaps the links should be altered to Lamech, son of Methuselah and Lamech, son of Methusael? File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 07:51, 4 July 2007 (EDT)
I was going to disagree, and say that there is no need to have the other Lamech as anything other than simply "Lamech", but I guess that Lamech should be a disambiguation between the two, in which case both could be "son of", as you suggest. Philip J. Rayment 08:21, 4 July 2007 (EDT)
That sounds like a good solution. File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 08:39, 4 July 2007 (EDT)

Adam's Life Span

no sane person can believe that anyone lived for 930 years. I thought this site was for "factual information" only.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by LesMurray (talk)

First of all, kindly sign your posts. And second, the world was different back in Adam's day. Since then, a tremendous catastrophe--indeed the ancient Greek word was cataclysm--has intervened. That cataclysm is, of course, the Great Flood.
Adam came from the very hand of God. If you will but read Genesis 11 , you will see that after the Flood, man's lifespan dropped ninety percent, and in a relative few generations.--TerryHTalk 11:54, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
Yes, I noticed that the comment was simply an argument from incredulity, with no facts or logic to back it up. Philip J. Rayment 22:43, 30 September 2007 (EDT)

Belly Button

In the painting where god and adam touch fingers (the one where they're sitting on clouds) why does Adam have a belly button? I mean wasn't he made by God? If so then there would be no need for a belly button and thus this painting pretty much destroys your religion.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by LesMurray (talk)

No one ever said that Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel frescoes were inspired the way the Bible is inspired. Therefore, you should not assume that that painting has an authority comparable to that of the Bible. Very likely, Michelangelo got it wrong. About the only artist who might have gotten it right, if he ever painted Adam himself, might have been Leonardo da Vinci, the all-around master of all trades.--TerryHTalk 11:57, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

56 kids

The source supposed to back up the claim that Adam and Eve had 56 kids doesn't and I checked JewishEncyclopedia.com and it doesn't say anthing about Adam having 56 kids--Kuli 16:28, 21 March 2008 (EDT)

I don't think the reference at the end of the section was meant to be a reference for the 56 kids. I've just added a reference for the kids. Philip J. Rayment 00:33, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
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