Talk:African Americans

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On the Main Page is says "You will much prefer using Conservapedia compared to Wikipedia if you want concise, clean answers free of "political correctness".

Surely "African American" is an example of "political correctness". Oughtn't this article be called Negroes? JC 08:54, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Sure if you want to use a loaded term. Negroes is a term many associate with racism and apartheid. Careful that the conservatism doesn't turn into outright bigotry.
-Gasmonkey
So some "political correctness" is OK then? Fair enough, after all, we should love all God's children. Even those from the other side of town.
JC 09:01, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

heh wow. Just love that Christian brotherhood, snide remarks about the other side of town and all. Don't worry, Jesus still loves you.

The term African-American is described as an example of Political correctness in that very article.
"And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;" (Genesis 15:13)
BillyBoy 07:03, 20 March 2007 (EDT)
'African American' is less popular in the 2010s, more and more wish to be called simply 'AMERICAN' by the country of their birth. Most African-Americans, per se, don't come from, nor have parents or grandparents from the continent Africa. What about non-African races in the continent, such as Boers and Afrikaaners of white European (Dutch/French or German) descent in South Africa? We should get over the need to hyphenate or view ourselves as "races" or "colors" of people, esp. in the time we're living when the USA elected a man of half-Kenyan/half-white American heritage. + Getitstraight 11:49, 14 December 2009 (EST)

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some political correctnes is important

There has to be some political correctness. Imagine if others would just start to tell about conservapedians "Idiots". Or what do you think about calling creationistst "Ignorants"? That would not be political correct, I think. But would it be wronger as you would be when calling african americans "Negroes"? So better you think about, what you are saying before others call you racists, fundamentalists,.... --Itsjustme 07:55, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

To many blacks, the term 'negro' is at best archaic and condescending, and at worst, a derivative of 'nigger'. We can argue semantics all day, but lets not insult people in an effort not to be politically correct. And 'the other side of town'? Not where I live. Miguel_Cervantes 15:18, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

The reference to political correctness on the Main Page seems to have been removed. Perhaps political correctness is acceptable here after all. Though it doesn't yet seem to extend as far as homosexuality.
"He will deliver his soul from going into the pit, and his life shall see the light." (Job 33:28)
BillyBoy 06:10, 24 March 2007 (EDT)
It was removed here on 19th March 2007
"He shall not search whether it be good or bad, neither shall he change it: and if he change it at all, then both it and the change thereof shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed." (Leviticus 27:33)
JC 10:46, 24 March 2007 (EDT)
In proper society, in public or in the workplace (make sure this isn't in the range of NSFW) there are rules, social cues or taboos to go by, and one of them is the improper/offensive/deragatory words to describe groups of people based on race, ethnicity, religion (i.e. negative use of "Jew" or "Jewish"), gender, sexuality (i.e. to say "gay" as a putdown or to declare something bad) and disability (i.e. for middle school kids to call others "retard" or stated something is.) The common knowledge on 'negro', 'colored' and 'black' in some social circles as unacceptable, obscene or hurtful is present and mass consciousness by the American people of all races to abandon those archaic or unrequested words by the African-American community. + Getitstraight 11:55, 14 December 2009 (EST)

Give me a break

There's a difference between being politically incorrect and being uncouth. Calling them Negroes is just uncouth. MountainDew 15:20, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Only a few elderly whites still use (in private) or blacks may call themselves the term, while the younger generations born or raised since the 1960's don't at all. Ironically, Negro means "black" in Latin and how the Germanic languages such as English developed an alteration of Negro into Nig-ger with strong negative meanings to dehumanize Africans and African-Americans alike. + Getitstraight 11:52, 14 December 2009 (EST)

Proof

My addition to this article ("Black people originated as descendants of Cain, along with Asians, Arabs, American Indians, Polynesians and other non-white races") has been proved by Creation Science. Creation Geneticists have found the gene EVL6 in all the races I listed, and EVL6 is traceable back to Cain.

Uh huh, right. I'd love to see how they managed to trace it back to Cain, assuming you're not just making this all up yourself. Your source would be what?--Murray 13:08, 22 March 2007 (EDT)
Yes, he's just making it up. And if he doesn't watch his step, he'll be blocked. Tsumetai 13:14, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Whom did Cain marry?Oldoligarch 18:00, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Awan. Probably. File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 18:09, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

This Article Phails.... What to add first?

A far more extensive history... List of awesome contributors... Modern history, culture, issues... Statistics...

Man... This article seriously phails. >_< (Decides to add at random)


And by the way, saying that a contemporary ethnic name is PC is the most absurd thing I have ever heard. I say, what gives one the right to name another ethnicy anyway? (Negros, Orientals, Indians, Eskimos...) Perhaps it would be better (4 ONCE in history) to not push one's opinion on matters that don't concern one, hmm? Let ethnicies name themselves, thank you.
ProserpinaFC 13:45, 1 February 2008 (EST)

Picture

I know pictures are nice to have in Encyclopedia articles (especially Wiki type) but does anyone really need a picture to know what an African American looks like? and why is that picture David Patterson by the way? Jamal Greene 15:10, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

I am in agreement. I find this picture to be a not very flattering picture of David Patterson, and therefore a not very flattering picture of what appears on this page to represent an entire race of people. I am inclined to agree that the picture is unnecessary and if it must remain, find a less rude, more relevant picture.
1940s-era actress/singer Lena Horne is African-American with some Caucasian, American Indian and probably Latino/Latin American ancestry, but she's known in the black community as a black person. Horne was involved in civil rights causes in the 1950's for "persons of color" like her, and her skin color was referred to as "caramel" by the press of her time might well de-emphasize her racial background. + Getitstraight 11:59, 14 December 2009 (EST)

Lock

Why is this page locked? I have a reference I'd like to add. -DrSandstone 15:29, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

I'd like to fix some of the writing, too. Who wrote "This people group"? In fact, the whole article needs rewriting. -JakeW

Do any of you have any actual African American culture to add to this article? Maybe a little bit about their natural physique, or imperialism, or tribes. anything about martin Luther K.? And can someone fix the emancipation proclamation thing? I specifically learned that it only freed slaves who were specifically in the north, it wasn't until after the war that the fourteenth amendment was passed, given blacks full rights as Americans. - signed by anon IP

Agree. I should find a file photo of Martin Luther King Jr. (from his own article, of course) and place it in the African-American article. His career as a civil rights leader has a humongous impact on life of minorities in America and other countries worldwide. Notice the majority of "conservatives" today, compared to let's say 40 yrs. ago when it was a "liberal" activist cause of celebre, admire MLK jr. since the terminology of what's politically or socially "conservative" or "liberal" from the 1960's compared to 2009 changes over time. + Getitstraight 12:02, 14 December 2009 (EST)
I unlocked it. edit away! RJJensen 16:23, 14 December 2009 (EST)

Some problems

This article has some problems. It applies the distracting label of "first black" to Patterson and Obama. The article is apparently still locked. Thanks. JeffT 15:51, 25 January 2010 (EST)

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