Talk:Atheism and suicide
What on earth does his quote have to do with atheism and suicide? StatsMsn 08:00, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
Can we please unlock this article? Are the first quotes from an article written over 100 years ago valid any more? Why is 75% of this article comprised entirely of block quotes? HelpJazz 20:54, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
- I agree. A quote from 1894 is questionable at best. Please unlock. --PaulLaroque 00:32, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
- Do you believe that man has grown smarter in the last one hundred years, despite the evidence of increased Naziism, Darwinism, Communism, etc.? Perhaps you had better study before you request permission to vandalize/censor again, as you did in your last earlier edit! BHarlan 00:35, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
1894 vs. 2004, "Real" Atheism
The article quotes both a dated 1894 study and various stuff from the 2000s. The 2004 source refers to "religiously unaffiliated" people. I've always been a Catholic, but I would imagine that "real" atheism would value life in a "live a happy life today because you might die tomorrow" type way.
By "real" atheism I mean that the person has made a conscious decision that God doesn't exist, as opposed to most people you meet today who just say "I'm an atheist" because they don't want to be bothered going to church or praying. I've known both types of atheists and there is a difference.
The "suicidal atheist converts to Christ" article seems to be just describing a person's journey to Christianity from his childhood atheism. I cannot say whether he fits the definition of "real" atheism above, but with his doctor vs. murderer comparison, he is referring to atheism's lack of an objective moral standard, but atheists can take an evolutionary psychology perspective I mentioned above.
I have no psychological experience and was always a Catholic but if any atheists with more experience can edit the article that would be great. -danq 17:06, 19 September 2009 (EDT)