Talk:Chivalry

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The first bullet, couldn't that go for any woman entering a room?
When a girl walks down the stairs in her prom dress, he date should stand up. There's no table involved in this case. o.O Natebecause people listen to what I say? 22:30, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

Nate, I fixed the first thing you mentioned. As far as the latter, my prom date lived in her parents trailer (single story), and I was probably already standing around nervously ;) But you're right, I think it actually applies more broadly, to, say, a woman entering (or leaving?) a room. Human 18:53, 2 November 2008 (EST)

Point 4 ("supporting and treating women, and adopting a work ethic to make that possible") seems to require clarification, but I am uncertain as to the intent. Should there be something further after "treating women?" Or was it intended to refer to "treating women" to dinner and so forth?--Benp 21:00, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

I'm confused... shouldn't this article be focused on the code of chivalry from the middle ages...? What in the world does homeschooling have to do with chivalry. The link between the two is unsourced and tenuous at best. EternalCritic 10:43, 6 November 2008 (EST)

I've put the {{fact}} tag next to that statement, as it isn't backed up with any citation, and because chivalry as a "reason for homeschooling" isn't mentioned at all in the homeschooling article. I agree there should be more content about medieval chivalry, especially as it is a well defined concept attested to by historical sources, whereas "moderan chivalry" is a vaguer idea & much more open to personal interpretation. If you have any good information or quotes about medieval chivalry, it would be nice to see that section expand.  :-) Sideways 10:57, 6 November 2008 (EST)

Added more info to the end of the page. The homeschooling bit seemed just strangely out of place so I removed it, there was no good way to leave it in there without it sounding like a rant. TalosRising 23:46, 10 May 2012 (EDT)

Revert page

I'm a little confused as to the revert for the chivalry page. The homeschooling bit doesnt flow with the information already there and it contains incorrect information, why keep it? TalosRising 00:06, 11 May 2012 (EDT)

Chivalry is doing well in homeschooling. Homeschooling holds regular events such as Civil War balls.--Andy Schlafly 00:23, 11 May 2012 (EDT)
Ok...I'm just not really sure what that has to do with the historical concept of chivalry. Also, that paragraph ignores the fact that it was an ideal of behavior and most knights were not expected to follow it to the letter. It was something to aspire to, similar to Bushido of Feudal Japan TalosRising 00:28, 11 May 2012 (EDT)
Chivalry continues in many important segments of society, and that is relevant to the entry. Whether it is followed "to the letter" depends on the person and situation.--Andy Schlafly 10:30, 11 May 2012 (EDT)
That it does, but I'm not sure how that ties into homeschooling in the way the article is written. The way the paragraph is written, it sounds like a rant. And I'm talking about historically speaking, it wasnt expected that it be followed to the letter. TalosRising 17:50, 11 May 2012 (EDT)

cool adjectives

here are some descriptions of ideal knights, we could perhaps work some of this into the text. Here is what Chaucer has to say about the Knight, and the explanations that my version gives: 'A Knight ther was, and that a worthy man,/ That fro the time that he first bigan/ To riden out, he loved chivalrie (same meaning as now, basically with more emphasis on military skill),/Trouthe(steadfastness, loyalty ie.: 'troth') and honour(honourable behaviour and speech)/ fredom (liberality, generosity) and curteisie(gentle manners, concern for others).

And this is from 'Gawain and the Green Knight' with the explanation that Brian Stone gives: 'Fraunchise': magnanimity, 'free-hearted generosity appropriate a noble'; 'fala*schyp': love of fellow men, lovingkindness ('*' stands for a letter I don't know); 'clannes': purity, chastity; 'cortaysye': courtesy; 'pité': piety, pity. He translates the whole phrase in the text as: 'Liberality and Lovingkindness... Continence and Courtesy... And Piety' I just thought that these were cool. Cmurphynz 03:40, 22 October 2012 (EDT)

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