Talk:Christmas

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A thought for Christmas.

THANK YOU, FATHER

Thank you, Father, for all You have given me,

much more than I could even count.


For sunlight that streams into my window

and warms my weary heart.

For moonlight on the nights I called out to You

and let You wash away my tears.


For people who love me when I seem most unlovable

but when I need their love the most.

For giving them the grace.

For holding my heart when it is trembling.


For being that guiding Light when I am lost in the

dark, with nowhere to go.

For caring enough to send the very best.

For the peace that my prayers are answered. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Joaquín Martínez (talk)


War on Xmas

Think the bit at the end about Oreilley and Gibson needs more but I cant be sure what to put there. Personally Ive always found the controversy itself bizarre considering theres no biblical precedent to celebrate the day of Christ's birth, especially given that the date of 12/25/00 itself is historically incorrect. The Gospels say He was born during the reign of King Herod, but Flavius Josephus says Herod died in the spring of 4 BC, putting Christ's birth as happening probably two seasons before (couldnt possibly have been the winter or the shepherds wouldnt have been abiding their flocks by night without freezing to death) which is how the real consensus seems to be September 29, 05 BC. More on that here. So the controversy definately needs to be addressed I think, but honestly dont know how to get into it without just poking holes in it and personally attacking Oreilley and Gibson whom I just find personally repugnant.--RexMundane 12:32, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

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