Talk:Conservative of the Year 2013

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Putin

Really? Putin? With all his acts to crush free speech and his refusal to really ever yield power? Okay. Hey man Hitler didn't like the gays either maybe he should be on this list.--Iduan 11:07, 11 December 2013 (EST)

Putin yielded power, and then was elected after an absence. And liberals suppress free speech in the United States more than Putin does in Russia.--Andy Schlafly 21:15, 19 December 2013 (EST)
Putin is furthering Christianity in Russia while in America, liberals and Obama are trying to remove its influence. --Jpatt 23:43, 19 December 2013 (EST)

I think that's a little unfair - saying he yielded power - he became Prime Minister when he couldn't constitutionally be President anymore - and many saw Medvedev as a pawn. As a Constitution expert - you also know that many of Russia's laws - that Putin supports - wouldn't pass muster here. Putin's laws reach far beyond the public school sphere, and they aren't private reactions to comments - as is the case when liberal producers at A&E decide to suspend a reality star - they're de jure. ALSO - his PARDON? What? When the Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov ran against Putin for president - a huge campaign issue of his was to pardon this guy - Putin hopped on board years too late for you to give him credit.--IDuan 16:31, 20 December 2013 (EST)

Putin opposes the gay agenda and supports Christianity, but look at his CP article: Vladimir Putin. He supports Antiamerican countries like Iran or North Korea.--JoeyJ 04:18, 21 December 2013 (EST)

Merkel

I would suggets the Conservative German chancellor Angela Merkel, who won the election in 2013.--JoeyJ 12:38, 16 December 2013 (EST)

I like Merkel too.--IDuan 18:17, 19 December 2013 (EST)

Gennady Zyuganov

Although he is a member of the KPRF, he does stand up to Putin's oligarchical rule. brenden 20:56, 18 December 2013 (EST)

Duck Dynasty

I would strongly support Merkel over Duck Dynasty - if only for longevity. Let's be real, if this story had happened in January instead of December would we really be talking about it now? If we had a conservative of the month rankings - fine - but of the year? Eh.--IDuan 22:19, 20 December 2013 (EST)

You make a valid point, but the Duck Dynasty family's position sets a remarkable precedent that will last far more than one month. Merkel has held power a long time but her influence is less clear.--Andy Schlafly 22:27, 20 December 2013 (EST)
Fair enough - understandable.--IDuan 22:31, 20 December 2013 (EST)
I'm with Iduan on this one. While I respect the Robertson family's commitment to their values, I feel that they are only as high in the rankings as they are because they are high-profile. Moreover, I feel like they haven't necessarily done enough to advance conservative causes. "have been censored by liberals for expressing their views" does not, for me, seem to be a good criterion, regardless of how conservative those views may be.--DTSavage 12:23, 31 December 2013 (EST)

Athletes?

Only one athlete made the list of nominees this year. That's pathetic and shows that liberals are succeeding in censoring athletes.--Andy Schlafly 22:55, 20 December 2013 (EST)

Do we usually have more than 1 or 2? In 2010 I counted zero; in 2011 I counted 1; 2012 there are numerous but two entries; 2013 1. Double check me on those counts, I was skimming.--IDuan 23:07, 20 December 2013 (EST)
OK, apparently I was mistaken about there having been more conservative leadership from athletes in the past.--Andy Schlafly 09:14, 21 December 2013 (EST)
Though not a candidate for this prize, Russia's Yelena Isinbayeva expressed solid support, in English, for Putin's anti homosexual policies.--JerryCa 22:59, 27 December 2013 (EST)
Her remarks appear to be more of a defense of Russia, than standing up against the homosexual agenda: [1] --Andy Schlafly 23:03, 27 December 2013 (EST)

Sortable ... but numbered also?

Sortable is a good addition, but how about automatic numbering in the first column. Does anyone know how to add that, such that when entries change order, their numbering is automatically updated?--Andy Schlafly 12:06, 21 December 2013 (EST)

I'm looking now but I'm not actually finding anything - in fact in the WikiMedia page I'm looking at it suggests that the table will always sort by the order the text is displayed. I think this is actually by design - if a table had 200+ rows and a user wanted to edit a typo in the first row - it'd be much harder to find that row in the table markup if it wasn't in the order first seen. Still, I'll keep looking.--IDuan 12:30, 21 December 2013 (EST)
Yeah sorry Andy sadly I can't find anything - I don't think it's possible.--IDuan 13:08, 21 December 2013 (EST)

Gohmert

Surely you can find a better example to represent the budget issue. I'm as against it as the next person but the man is an idiot. Unless this site is a parody like people say? I joined because I was curious. JohnBD 00:08, 31 December 2013 (EST)

Name-calling is not appropriate on this website, particularly when it is inaccurate.--Andy Schlafly 00:47, 31 December 2013 (EST)
Well, that answered my question. I vote for Putin. Happy New Year and God bless. JohnBD 13:02, 31 December 2013 (EST)

I find it interesting,...

...that there are only a handful of users discussing the question of who is the "Conservative of the Year," and that there are, based on a quick count, fewer than five people who have been with the project for more than a year who are involved in the debate. To what do you account this lack of enthusiasm? EddyJ 01:02, 1 January 2014 (EST)

Debate requires controversy. The choices and rankings were pretty obvious this year.--Andy Schlafly 11:06, 1 January 2014 (EST)