Talk:Debate: Can you be a true Christian and believe in evolution?
I'm sorry to see that my criticism of the notion that fully accepting creationism is the logical end of a conflict between creationism and evolution was removed as a "trollish comment." My apologies for attempting to participate in this dialogue. --IlTrovatore 23:55, 24 May 2008 (EDT)
- Your reference to the "last step" was a reference to my use of the term, in which I was clearly referring to rejecting evolution. So you were not simply disagreeing, but twisting my use of the term 180 degrees. The "last step" was the last in a series of steps from A to B, but you turned the "last step" into an about face. Further, in doing so, you were begging the question by presuming that not always taking the Bible literally was the correct thing to do, and at the same time misrepresenting the problem as one of taking the Bible literally, which is not what creationists do.
- Despite all that, it was a borderline case as to whether or not I deleted the post. Please feel free to restate your point in a different manner.
- Philip J. Rayment 02:21, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
"...and at the same time misrepresenting the problem as one of taking the Bible literally, which is not what creationists do." Can you clarify that?
Also, why was "borderline" dismissed as "trollish"? --IlTrovatore 20:29, 27 May 2008 (EDT)
- In trying to decide whether or not it counted as "trollish", I felt that it was a borderline case, but in the end decided that it did count as trollish.
- Creationists recognise the existence of parable, metaphor, poetic language, euphemisms, and the like in the Bible. They don't read the Bible as though everything is literally true. However, they do read as literally true the parts that are narrative. That is, the parts that are meant to be understood literally. See Young Earth Creationism#Biblical exegesis.
- Philip J. Rayment 08:17, 28 May 2008 (EDT)