Eleanor Roosevelt was a humanitarian. :( --Taj 23:36, 28 July 2007 (EDT)
- Here's the problem: you now have a record of inserting disinformation. Franklin Roosevelt did not serve in the United States Senate. 
- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RobS (talk)
- Yes, this is true, he was elected as a New York State Senator, (as opposed to a United States senator from New York). U2 15:57, 30 July 2007 (EDT)
Thank you, U2, for clarifying the statement about Roosevelt being a New York State Senator. I apologize if I was not clear on this or accidentally made a mis-statement.
Dear Rob S.,
I make great efforts to ensure my edits are factual and backed up by valid references, but I am not infallible, or an expert on Political figures by any means (most of my contributions are about agriculture, geography and historical landmarks).
To term my edit "disinformation" is most dismaying. This would indicate it was an intentional misrepresentation of a fact with malicious motives. I did not do this and have never done this. Please feel free to examine any and every of my contributions to Conservapedia in detail to see this. They are listed on my user page.
I usually do not object to anyone's edits, or get involved in discussions on talk pages. But Eleanor Roosevelt was an inspiring person and one of my role models. She was very much a humanitarian, so I was unhappy to see that part removed and statements added about her that seem very negative. That was why I made the one comment on this talk page about her being a humanitarian.
An example: you added: "She writes that her father was a drunkard and died in a sanitarium." There must have been more to her father than that, he must have had some good points.
Another example: you wrote: "To counter criticism of Mrs. Roosevelt's outside earnings while First Lady she cultivated an image as patriotic with an interest in social causes and helping the underprivileged." I really don't think she "cultivated an image to counter criticism" I believe her activities were because she truly cared about humanitarian causes. Long before she married Mr. Roosevelt and was in the public eye, she often donated her time to humanitarian and patriotic organizations, including the United States Navy. I am just saddened that the page seems very critical of Mrs Roosevelt.
I am also not pleased that you called my edit "disinformation". I had no idea what that word even meant until I looked up the definition at Dictionary.com :
1. False information, about a country's military strength or plans, publicly announced or planted in the news media, esp. of other countries.
2. Deliberately misleading information announced publicly or leaked by a government or especially by an intelligence agency in order to influence public opinion or the government in another nation.
3. Misinformation that is deliberately disseminated in order to influence or confuse rivals (foreign enemies or business competitors etc.)
Good Heavens - I hardly think any of these apply to me!
I would like to say that I admire your work for Conservapedia, I see you are a frequent contributor. We all need to help this wiki grow and become a useful and reliable reference. That is why I think that Eleanor Roosevelt deserves a well rounded article which includes her humanitarian activities. Just my opinion, thank you for considering my viewpoint.
God Bless, May peace be with you and the light of the lord shine upon you. - Tasha D Jones --Taj 23:52, 30 July 2007 (EDT)
- Well the facts are Franklin Roosevelt built his career on his family name, and had little, or no experience or accomplishsments of his own all the way up to the White House. And the facts are that his family and politcal organization always promoted these kind of lies from the very beginning, even when he ran for New York State legislature. So, I would very carefully review any and all sources you are using for this, or any other Roosevelt/New Deal article. The buck stops here.
- When examining the real Roosevelt klan, we discover Clinton did not invent Clintonism, Franklin Roosevelt did. So, no lies and misinformation to promote the "Great Leader." He was only a human being, complete with bowel movements and all. He was not a god, nor savior of the planet, freedom, humanity, peace, justice, equality, fairness, or whatever other poetic junk you wish to add. And neither was Eleanor. Facts are, the whole family scammed for every penny they could get thier greedy little fingers on while FDR was in the White House. And when she got caught, in the true Clintonian fashion tried to cultivate an image of "humanitarian" with some of the profits.
- Most disturbing of all, while using high office for selfish gain, they condemend greed and corruption. The bloom has finally come off the rose, and we are finally going to see these people for the flawed human beings they were. RobS 00:24, 31 July 2007 (EDT)
- Whatever supposed truth you see in this, alright. Suit yourself. But I don't understand how any of that validates removing Eleanor's good deeds from this article.
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