Talk:Essay:Jesus' emphasis on Heaven and Hell

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All responses are appreciated. If you post on my talk page, I'll also copy the comments below for completeness' sake (hopefully with the original posters' consent).

Response from Aschlafly

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[This] is a superb essay, but I think you've included too many inconsequential references in the Heaven section, thereby inflating its volume, and then conclude that Heaven is more emphasized based on a count. The references to Hell are direct and compelling; most of the cited references to Heaven could refer to earthly reward or a Heaven of angels with unclear availability to man.--aschlafly 16:03, 14 December 2008 (EST)

Most of the listed references to Heaven are unclear, even upon further reflection. The "Kingdom of God" has an earthly form, for example, and one reference is how difficult it is to get to Heaven!
I wonder which translation you used. I'm going to compare KJV to NIV in references to Hell.--aschlafly 18:10, 14 December 2008 (EST)
I used the New English Bible.--CPalmer 07:01, 15 December 2008 (EST)

May I contribute?

Excellent work,
I am interested in this subject, and would like to do more research and add to your findings. (Possibly the Gospel of John). Would it be ok if I contribute to the essay? --Tim (CPAdmin1)talk Vote in my NEW polls 18:55, 14 December 2008 (EST)

That should be fine. I just found that the KJV references Hell 54 times; the NIV only 14!--aschlafly 19:49, 14 December 2008 (EST)
I was asking the author of the essay. I don't want to interfere with his project if he would prefer to do it himself. --Tim (CPAdmin1)talk Vote in my NEW polls 20:07, 14 December 2008 (EST)
That would be great if you'd like to. I'd prefer it if you add new sections rather than edit the ones I've written, but feel free to change section headings and add to the introduction as necessary to make clear what's happening.--CPalmer 07:02, 15 December 2008 (EST)

Thanks for this

Just wanted to say thanks for writing this. I've always been interested in better expressing my sentiment on this topic to my Non-Christian friends, but lacked the drive to go through and find each and every mentioning of the two. I agree with your conclusions as well. --SJames 07:09, 15 December 2008 (EST)

Thanks for reading, and for your response. Also, I recommend taking this kind of approach to Bible reading. I hadn't done it before, and I found that going through with a specific topic in mind was a good exercise that helped me find things in the text that I hadn't before.--CPalmer 07:12, 15 December 2008 (EST)
I appreciate your advice on the approach to Bible reading. Unfortunately in my case, it's not a matter of knowing but rather of breaking through my laziness and following through. It reminds me of a Bible verse that speaks to this matter -- somewhere in Romans, maybe...but sadly, I'm not sure.
Ah, Romans 7:18 it is. --SJames 08:36, 15 December 2008 (EST)
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