Talk:Essay:Why Liberals Delight in Deceit

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While there's no doubt that some liberals do "delight in deceit", it's just as true of some conservatives. Without even thinking very hard at all, I can think of many major, notorious cases of deceit by conservative figures in the past few years. So it seems like a pretty weak thesis, and there's only one way to prove it - you'd have to compile a list of every incident of deceit by liberals, the same for conservatives, the same for centrists, and then make the claim based on which was larger. But since that is a functionally impossible list to compile, (how would you possibly even research 'acts of deceit'?) it's simply conjecture. KBinbota 14:15, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

It's not conjecture, but is an observable fact, just as observable as an increase in crime late at night, or health issues caused by addiction, or success due to working hard. These are unmistakable correlations and it is foolish to deny them. Examples of liberal deceit outnumber examples of conservative deceit by perhaps 10:1. It's probably a higher correlation than alcohol causing liver disease, which is itself an unmistakable correlation.--Andy Schlafly 14:47, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
You're right - the data behind late night crime is relatively simple to acquire - most large cities, counties or States would have police records and statistical analysis to back that up. Likewise, stressed workers do indeed shuffle off this mortal coil at a higher rate than those at peace (however they achieve that), and the medical records of States and nations have clearly shown that to be true - anyone would indeed be foolish to deny it. Finally, the link between alcohol and liver disease is also rock solid, as is smoking and lung (and other) cancers, and again medical records are very clear on that front. I pretty much agree with you about everything, so I'd be very interested indeed to see your data on deceit - where did you get your data from? KBinbota 17:28, 5 April 2009 (EDT)