Talk:France

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References

The references in this article don't seem to be working properly - can somebody fix them?

Politics

Unless you go into a full discussion of France's politics, which could very well happen in the future, I suppose, the statement about France not supporting the invasion of Iraq seems to be a bit irrelevant. Are we going to list every single country's stance on the Iraq war? -Commodore Guff 14:52, 8 March 2007 (EST)

It is very important to know who is "with us" and who is "against us".</sarcasm> (Seriously: I technically agree, but I'd leave it in so that a politics section can grow around it.) --Sid 3050 16:33, 11 March 2007 (EDT)
Seriously if you want an unbiased article then one country's (i.e; Americas) opinion on another really does have no place in it... --Daerean 12:24, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

Spelling

I made a bunch of fixes to the non-American spellings in this article. Let's keep those double-L's (rivalled) and silent U's (behaviour) out of Conservapedia as per the Commandments.

War on Terror

Why do we find under Germany :

War on Terror

Germany currently contributes troops to the NATO-led operation in Afghanistan, but did not support the invasion of Iraq.

And why it is not showing the same information under France? See: http://www.nato.int/ISAF/index.htm

Also, the last comment about the French kings after Clovis is showing that the writer of this article has no knowledge of French history.

March 2003-I didn't realize that they found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. What is your source for this statement?

Astérix and Obélix

Those are not heroes of the french history, but purely fictional characters. So is their story. There was no little chiefdom remaining independent from Rome. SillyGirl 11:03, 19 May 2007 (EDT)

I entirelly removed the reference. Unless one want to consider, say, "Independence Day" (the movie), as facts (just for comparison). SingleUse 05:27, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

May I ask who pasted the map of France on top of the article?Oldoligarch 22:04, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Right?

Why was "Centre-Right" changed to "Right Wing" to describe the current French government? What makes us believe they are one or the other? Learn together 14:02, 27 July 2007 (EDT)

You gave no indication why this was the case, but reverted away from "conservative". If you wish to do that, show your rationale in talk. The other concerns are written below. Learn together 23:09, 29 July 2007 (EDT)

Recent revert

The article describing the 2 million people who have left France used the word "fled". It also said that 93% of them are glad they're no longer living in France. Unless you have knowledge of 2 million French foreign exchange students, then I believe using the langauge "have left France" is acceptable. Please choose to present your views in Talk. Learn together 23:09, 29 July 2007 (EDT)

Gaullist v center-right as a description for Sarkozy

I had initially called Sarkozy Gaullist and indeed created the (still-stub) article on Gaullism, but later changed it to center-right. I see it's been changed back to Gaullist. I believe center-right is better for several reasons. First, Gaullism is linked with anti-Americanism, and Sarkozy is the most pro-American president in recent French history. Next, it fails to capture his commitment to pro-market policies. Traditional Conservative 22:50, 9 September 2007 (EDT)

I am not well versed on the views of both men in regard to pro-market policies, but certainly the difference in attitude towards the United States is notable. I agree with the change that you propose. Learn together 01:14, 10 September 2007 (EDT)
I think that's an apt characterization Tradcon makes. Rob Smith 12:53, 10 September 2007 (EDT)

This article is about to be reorganized, collaboration welcome

This is a good article with a lot of information. However, it is not organized particularly well. I'm going to take a look at it, and anybody who would like to assist or provide suggestions would be much appreciated. DanH 12:06, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

Already acomplished. Karajou 13:37, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Currency in France

A serious up-to-date Encyclopedia would list "Euro" as the currency in France since 2002. The "Franc" is totally out of date.

A serious user in this website would have made the simple move to correct it, instead of complain about it and doing nothing. Karajou 11:36, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

War deaths

Not any good at this editing stuff, but under foreign relations you have the US as having the most war related deaths of any foreign country. Just thought you might want to consider the fact that the UK total is higher, just out of WWI and WWII alone. Then when you start consiering all the ars those two had prior to the World Wars the number there is no way the US would have more deaths. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brenmcc (talk)

You might be right. Go ahead and try to edit the entry!--Aschlafly 10:51, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Hahahahahahahahahaha you've got to be kidding me. The U.S. Having more war-related deaths than any other country? What a joke. The USSR lost more lives during WWII than all the other countries combined. Rockthecasbah 16:18, 26 May 2008 (EDT)

Crossroads of Invasion

Seriously... this sounds like all the bad jokes regarding France and it's fighting. How is France more of a "crossroads of invasion" compared to other places in the world? I changed "invasion" to "movement" but my edit was reverted. Shall I try again? Rockthecasbah 23:20, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

And I've reverted it again! It would have been better to wait for an answer before reinstating your change, but apart from that, I'm not sure why it said "invasion". The whole sentence is rather non-specific. The main reason I reverted is because by changing it to "movement", it's even more non-specific (what sort of movement?) and probably simply duplicates "travel", already in the sentence. Perhaps Joaquin (who reverted you the first time) can add some thoughts? Philip J. Rayment 23:34, 10 May 2008 (EDT)
That word was introduced in the edit in which the information from the CIA World Factbook was copied and pasted into the article, so it was not intended as vandalism. I might also add that Afghanistan is another nation that is often referred to as a center of invasion due to its strategic location, and it's not meant to be inherently offensive. DanH 23:39, 10 May 2008 (EDT)
My beloved France has been a "crossroads of invasion"; that is a truth that in History could not be changed, so sorry. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 08:59, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

Mec, it's my beloved France too, and I say it's been no more invaded that a multitude of other nations. If we want a vague, generalized introduction to the article, we should use the word movement. Who can say that France has been invaded more than a country like Russia? The greatest invaders of all time -the Mongols- never made it to France but they conquered the entirety of Russia as well as most of the rest of Eurasia. Was that not invasion? Napoleon invaded Russia as well as most of Europe. Was that not invasion as well? Even Britain, that island bastion of security, has had its share of invasions. It's been invaded by Picts, Celts, Saxons, Vikings time after time and then of course William the Bastard himself. And within Britain, Wales, Scotland and England invaded each other for centuries. Was that not invasion?

France is not unique in the slightest when it comes to being invaded. Doesn't movement sound better anyways? It certainly sounds more natural. Rockthecasbah 20:15, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

Some people just want any excuse to snicker at France even on a website that claims to be academic and unbiased. Granted, I love a good joke at France's expense as much as the next guy but there's a time and a place, and a website that purports to be encyclopedic is NOT the place at all. Jros83 15:55, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

Article recreation

What happened? We have just had a brand new France "restored" to us. Clean and unsmutched and without a "history". What happened to the old one? AlanE 23:55, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

Clean and new, like the country itself. What's the problem??? Godspeed.--Aschlafly 00:00, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
The problem is the destruction of a very useful feature of MediaWiki—the article's history, including the deceptive result that it now appears that one Aschlafly wrote the entire article, when in fact he essentially wrote none of it. Further, I believe that there are at least two ways the problem that deletion tried to solve could have been solved differently. One with Oversight, and the other with a selective restore, which I'll now do. Philip J. Rayment 10:04, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

Thanks Philip. I have a curious mind that's all. There was no real problem as such. At least not until Andy asked me if there was a problem, then immediately closed off for the night before I could answer. AlanE 13:45, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

disturbing

First photo does not carry any information and could give the feeling that all the French are Sarkozy supporters. Which is obviously not the case. Sporean 12:06, 6 April 2010 (EDT)

Well we will trust that most of our users will not assume, as you obviously do, that three people wearing Sarkozy shirts means 100% of all Citizens of France support the man. Many must because he was elected, no? --ṬK/Admin/Talk 08:22, 8 April 2010 (EDT)
The fact is that if you go to France you will have an extremely hard time trying to spot even one single Frenchman with the name of a politician on his T-shirt. The French do not usually display their political views openly, except, in rare cases, in meetings. So your caption stating that this is typical is obviously ridiculous to me.
Moreover the current rate of French people who support him is estimated to be around 35 percent in recent polls (which does not matter, really). Sporean 08:48, 8 April 2010 (EDT)

Changes

I have made some edits to the article. Please forgive me my english and make necessary corrections. Thank you. Lancet 14:48, 29 April 2010 (EDT)

Reference

I was asked by Mr TK to include a reference about English being superior. I can't find the reference here where Mr Aschlafly has said it. It's not in the English article. Can anyone help me please? Merci! Lancet 16:36, 30 April 2010 (EDT)

What I noted was the part about the French language commission..can you please provide a link/reference for it? Thank you. --ṬK/Admin/Talk 17:15, 30 April 2010 (EDT)
The Academy? Yes, OK. I will find one and add it in. Thanks you. Lancet 18:21, 30 April 2010 (EDT)
Done. Lancet 12:56, 1 May 2010 (EDT)
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