Talk:Gun

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Most of the first section seemed rather patronizing

The first two sentances are VERY patronizing.

'Some guns fire small bullets. Some guns fire big bullets. Some guns fire very big bullets'

Is this aimed at 5 year olds?! This could be a very good article with a little work. Jennisuk 22:08, 28 March 2007 (EDT)

Cut from first section:
... are tools generally designed for firing bullets in a controlled manner. They have traditionally been used for two purposes: firing bullets at people, and threatening to fire bullets at people. Thus, a gun is considered a weapon, though technically, the bullet is the weapon, unless the gun itself is used as a club, or as a spear if it has a bayonet attached.
Most of this is relevant to the gun control / gun ownership debate. I do hope we will present the conservative side of this and not only the liberal side. --Ed Poor 08:27, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

machineguns and 20mm+ heavy MGs are indirect fire weapons?! ROFLMAO i bet you don't even know what is indirect fire!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Schwarze (talk)

Jesus Christ is LORD!

That's wonderful, thank you for testifying. But what does that have to do with the article? Puzzled... Human 22:42, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

In the article it says MGs and 20MMs use indirect fire, read the article


Contents

Gun control, freedom, etc.

2/3 of this article is about freedom and gun control and blah blah political stuff. Is there another article where this can go, so this can focus on the basic encyclopedia stuff of what a gun is, how it works, how it was invented, etc.? AManInBlack 23:24, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

Retitle suggestion

Maybe this should be retitled to "firearms" or "projectile weapons" given the first line: "A gun is a weapon which fires a bullet, dart or other projectile." I didn't know bows and trebuchets were guns! Barikada 22:07, 15 January 2008 (EST)

Offensive or defensive

a mostly defensive weapon

I don't think we can characterize the weapon itself. Being a material thing, it is neutral.

It has both offensive and defensive uses. Murdering someone for revenge or robbery ... showing it to an assailant to stop him from murdering or robbing you. It all depends on how you choose to use it. --Ed Poor Talk 07:54, 22 April 2008 (EDT)

Need ref: when do police go unarmed? When on traffic duty? When arresting men who are "armed and dangerous"? --Ed Poor Talk 12:43, 22 April 2008 (EDT)

I've provided cites and the conditions under which the various forces go unarmed - generally, all uniformed Police on regular patrol duty are unarmed, but there are obviously special armed squads in each country. NormanTebbitt 13:29, 22 April 2008 (EDT)

Police use of firearms varies immensly by country. I have read that most English Police go unarmed. I dont thing that a gun is primarily a defensive weapon though. A PISTOL is primarily defensive, a RIFLE primarily offensive (even in hunting) GUN is a bit ambiguous, perhaps link to pistols and rifles after the broad definition ? Markr

Unarmed Police

Generally police are unarmed because there is simply no need for armed police. Armed criminals are not present generally in the UK or Ireland and thus police do not normally need a gun to carry out their duties, which would make arming a ferocious waste of money. GabharGneasach 13:50, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

There's a bunch of stuff here about the police that I can't help but think is misplaced. I suggest deletion of most of the text on armed police or shifting it to another page, such as a page about police, crime, or actual gun control. Any thoughts? Rick99 02:29, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

Suggestions wanted for specific makes of guns for articles

I noticed that there are only a handful of articles on specific makes of guns and thought I might be able to contribute. However, I don't have infinite time so I'd appreciate any suggestions as to WHICH specific guns about which it might be useful to create articles. I'm thinking of the following (which don't currently exist in Conservapedia):

  • Colt Peacemaker (a classic)
  • Gatling Gun
  • Railgun
  • Luger P08 (the cool sidearm the Germans used in the TV show Combat)
  • Walther PPK (Bond, James Bond)
  • .357 Magnum
  • Barrett .50 M107 (World's most powerful sniper rifle)

Any other guns worth writing about? At the same time, some of the existing articles (e.g., G3) are just pathetic and make me embarrassed to be a Conservapedian. Anyway, other suggestions? -- AdmiralNelson 16:30, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

GEC minigun , my personal favorite :) a type of gatling gun for modern times. Markr 23:55, 10 October 2008 (EDT)

Definition of "gun"

Would it be worth commencing the article with some sort of definition of a gun along the lines of: "A mechanicaly operated device that uses the power of expanding gas to eject a projectile at high velocity through a tube." Something like this will stop the liberals making petty comments about bows and arrows.Malakker 13:38, 3 September 2008 (EDT)

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