Talk:J. Edgar Hoover

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How is Hoover's well known and well-publicized vendetta against MLK unsubstantiated? I tried to include various sources, but the spam filter wouldn't allow it. The paper source I've listed substantiates it plenty. Maestro 20:44, 30 June 2007 (EDT)

The editors here claim that Hoover's well-documented persecution of the civil rights movement is unsourced, though there is a paper source right there. Maestro 20:58, 12 September 2007 (EDT)

Seems someone's a little disengenous with a source [1]. That source actually says,
"U.S. Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy committed what is widely viewed as one of the most ignominious acts in modern American history: he authorized the Federal Bureau of Investigation to begin wiretapping the telephones of the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.[2]
Doesn't even mention Hoover. Awh garr-un-tee, the banhammer is coming down if this type of trolling continues. Don't even begin getting involved on a page like this unless (a) you know your material, and (b) you have valid, qualified sources, in hand. Rob Smith 21:47, 12 September 2007 (EDT)

It is literally in my hand. It's called a book. It's the only reference on the page. I never even looked at the internet reference. Maestro 23:01, 12 September 2007 (EDT)

FYI

Lyndon Johnson kept a recording procured by the wiretap RFK authorized of Dr. King in a motel room with a hooker on his desk and would play it for laughs to visitor's in the Oval Office. 3 point bonus question : what source is this verifiable information reported in? The Banhammer 21:56, 12 September 2007 (EDT)

Crossdressing

So... do we put in Hoover's little quirk, or leave it out as it is not family friendly? Barikada 22:24, 6 March 2008 (EST)

Actually, the whole "Transvestite Hoover" rumor was set forward by the wife of a mobster he busted called Susan Rosenstiel. Nobody took her story seriously; Truman Capote (who was far from a fan of the FBI Director) found the story so ludicrous that he told it to everyone within range. In fact, Capote didn't even care if Rosenthiel's claims had any basis. As a result, a smear without concrete evidence lived through the ages. ZetaSonic 20:16, 20 January 2013 (EST)
Wow. Interesting. Can you share a link? OscarO 14:27, 21 January 2013 (EST)

"Spying on conservatives"

"In 1934 President Franklin D. Roosevelt secretly directed Hoover to investigate and monitor the activities of American Nazis and Nazi sympathizers"

What are you saying RJ, conservatives are Nazis? Rob Smith 13:47, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

no--FDR authorized spying on all his enemies. I'll rephrase that. RJJensen 15:08, 8 August 2009 (EDT)
Geez it sounds worse now that you rewrote it. It's the subhead and the opening sentence that can easily be misconstrued. Rob Smith 15:22, 8 August 2009 (EDT)
OK, I tried again. see what you think. RJJensen 15:28, 8 August 2009 (EDT)
Then let's examine the text of the Articles of Impeachment:
"He misused the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Secret Service, and other executive personnel, in violation or disregard of the constitutional rights of citizens, by directing or authorizing such agencies or personnel to conduct or continue electronic surveillance or other investigations for purposes unrelated to national security, the enforcement of laws, or any other lawful function of his office; he did direct, authorize, or permit the use of information obtained thereby for purposes unrelated to national security, the enforcement of laws, or any other lawful function of his office; and he did direct the concealment of certain records made by the Federal Bureau of Investigation of electronic surveillance.
Seems pretty clear, "in violation or disregard of the constitutional rights of citizens, by directing or authorizing such agencies or personnel to conduct or continue electronic surveillance; don't see anything about coverup in that language. Rob Smith 18:44, 10 August 2009 (EDT)
Yes, but Hoover was not involved in any of the that and the FBI was involved only in a negative fashion (told not to investigate Watergate). This is an article on J. Edgar Hoover. RJJensen 18:48, 10 August 2009 (EDT)
True; it'll have to go elsewhere. Rob Smith 19:58, 10 August 2009 (EDT)
yes, it fits in an article regarding Nixon's impeachment. RJJensen 20:04, 10 August 2009 (EDT)
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