Talk:KAL 007 on the Water: a sighting

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Bert, are you making an argument here that the Soviets shot down the plane deliberately? If so, would that be (in your view) because they knew that Americans in general (or a particular American, such as a prominent anti-Communist) was aboard?

I have also read theories that the Soviets lured the Korean airliner with fake signals of some sort. Either way, it's despicable that they would shoot down a plane (rather than force it to land) after it left Soviet airspace. There are international rules governing "overflight", are there not? --Ed Poor Talk 09:44, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

Ed, this article provides evidence that KAL 007 rested, at least long enough on the surface of the sea, to ascertain that there were Americans aboard, at least some of whom were dead. Other evidence leads to the passengers and crew being deboarded and incarcerated. From this article's evidence, it cannot be shown that KAL 007 was intentionally shot down to get Larry McDonald or other Americans. I believe, though, that he was taken after the Soviets realized what a prize they had and the others not released, for reasons connected with the retention of Larry McDonald. There is. though, one piece of evidence that would suggest that KAL 007 was intentionally shot down to get not only McDonald but the other high value anti-communist congressmen on KAL 007's accompanying flight KAL 015 going to the meet in South Korea. I need to pursue that piece of evidence more thoroughly. It is very disturbing if true. The Su-15 pilot violated many of the rules and safeguards - which violations he has successively acknowledged in interviews but without the slightest regret. It is despicable and we can see how great harm can be caused in such short moments of time.Bert Schlossberg 12:39, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

The Soviet radio report that Americans had been killed

I think it telling that prior to the world knowing that KAL 007 had been shot down, Soviet operators had been saying among themselves that Americans had been killed. There were 61 Americans on board out of a total of 269 passengers and crew. The passenger jet being viewed from above by Soviet planes could have been identified as passenger, and even a 747 (by the distinctive shape and by double row of windows) and even as South Korean (by the bird emblem on the tail) but to know that precisely Americans who had been killed out of all the nationalities (Americans - 61, South Koreans- 105, Japanese - 28, Taiwanese - 23, Philippinos - 16, etc.) would indicate that the Soviet pilots who had heard that and who had reported to their controllers had gotten that info from hearing a radio broadcast - from the downed and floating aircraft, from life rafts of survivors, or from Soviet rescue boats.BertSchlossberg 14:54, 22 September 2012 (EDT)