I added this entry as I think we should cover more prominent conservatives (not just young earth creationists). Unfortunately I chose a fairly controversial one (regarding the tax issues) first. I'll work on it some more later.--AustinM 14:49, 10 March 2007 (EST)
58? wow thats alot!--Will N. 18:42, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
I thought Hovind was a Young Earth Creationist. MountainDew 18:44, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
My understanding is that even most YEC distance himself from him, because of his views on tax evasion and because he thinks the government is behind 9/11. MountainDew 18:26, 13 March 2007 (EDT)
I don't know much about Kent Hovind (though my beliefs are creationist, they come from the bible, not organizations are talking heads). I've been asked to contribute to this article because it was me that pointed out that it was, at the time, all negative. Unfortunately, most everything I am finding is negative, and since I don't have references (read: books), I'll post some sources that art critical, but quote some of his defenses.
- Harvey H. Jackson: Don’t do what Dr. Dino did. Potentially useful material related to his tax shenanigans:
|“||Dr. Dino "maintains that as a minister of God, everything he owns belongs to God and he is not subject to paying taxes to the United States on money he receives from doing God’s work."||”|
|“||Because they considered themselves "workers of God," the Hovinds did not believe they were subject to taxation...On his Internet radio program, Hovind had previously declared that he was not a citizen of the United States and therefore was not subject to taxation.||”|
Anyway, I am going to have to wait and see what Larson and/or Number wrote about Hovind, if anything. Otherwise, searches are being swamped by tax charges and critical blogs. HeartOfGold 21:24, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
My second revert of RonTorres' changes
I've reverted most of RonTorres' latest edit for the following reasons:
- It is not customary to refer to a person by the title every time they are referred to. The initial reference to "Dr." is okay, and I've left that.
- It is not reasonable to downgrade Talk.Origins' comment about the challenge including abiogenesis etc. to a "claim", when it is clear from Hovind's own site that Talk.Origins is correct on that point. That is, the challenge does include abiogenesis, etc.
- I don't see the point in changing "pro-evolution web-site" to "liberal, evolutionist web-site". What does the latter say that the former doesn't? Except possibly to distinguish the site from a "conservative evolutionist web-site", but I'd want more evidence that this distinction is justified.
I'm also not happy about saying that Hovind is known as "Dr. Dino" because of his "expertise" in dinosaurs. Coming right after him being described as "Dr. Kent Hovind", it gives the impression that his doctorate is in the study of dinosaurs. I doubt that is the case, although I'm open to being educated on that point. Alternatively, there may be a better way of wording that.
Philip J. Rayment 23:55, 6 August 2007 (EDT)
Question on Thesis
Thank you for constributing and asking your question on whether or not what you entered was appropriate. As a general rule criticism is allowed, but shouldn't overpower the other content of an article. We also try to avoid name/degree dropping unless it is pertinent to the accusation made. I don't see that the Tuft's professor has any particular renowned expertise in the area she is writing apart from being a Tuft's professor so I removed that information (but kept the reference of course). I've also removed the extra specific information on Patriot Univeristy, not because it is improper to state, but merely because it should probably be under Patriot University itself.
Thank you again for your contributions. We look forward to seeing more of your work.
Learn together 09:00, 4 December 2007 (EST)