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Biblical creationism will be strong in 2015

See: Essay: Biblical creationism will be strong in 2015.

Stronger, higher, faster! Conservative 22:36, 17 January 2015 (EST)

Joni Ernst article

The Joni Ernst article at Tea Party Crusaders contains an error: Senator Ernst served two terms in the Iowa State Senate not one. VargasMilan 02:22, 20 January 2015 (EST)

But then again, "state senator" could have two meanings, U. S. senator of a state or senator within a state. VargasMilan 02:28, 20 January 2015 (EST)
I just like the fact that she is a feisty conservative who rides a motorcycle and is pro-gun. A Shockofgod for the US Senate. :) Conservative 14:46, 20 January 2015 (EST)

New planet

Our space probe is approaching the new planet at about the speed of jet airliner, and all through February we expect to get better and better views of its surface, the probe arriving in orbit in early March. This planet has already been featured on Conservapedia's main page (as well as Fox News), if you need help guessing what it is. VargasMilan 01:51, 23 January 2015 (EST)

Yahoo's top news link: "By the way, there happens to be a spacecraft near a planet. And I'll be darned, but the planet happened to be in visual range!" And the icing on the cake is the only thing they find unusual about the situation is a feature of the planet discovered years ago which they describe as the spacecraft having "found". Nothing is a drama (like a mission to a never-visited planet) unless Yahoo says it is, and if it's not a drama (like something already discovered), it is if Yahoo says so. Yahoo obviously adheres to a Yahoo-centric model of the universe. VargasMilan 01:51, 24 January 2015 (EST)

Atheism statistics article - The excitement is raging!

The fans of the Freedom from Atheism Foundation love the Atheism statistics article.

Here are some of the reviews after only 16 hours:

John Barbagiannis: Damning statistics

Jennifer Michele: Interesting

Stephen J. Ardent: It's not surprising. When you think that the only value a human has is the value another human places on that life, it's really easy to treat the bulk of humanity as simply trash to be dealt with.

Grace Kim Kwon It's nearly a billion if the unborns are counted. Christianity saves and rescues, but atheism kills and destroys.

Scott O'Steen: ...I actually pity them , often it seems like arguing with a spoiled teenager, I have to be in the mood to argue with them

Rhoda Winters: Yup. Atheism is poison.

Keith Wade: You should check up on that, because Conservapedia is a website writing an article. They are not the "source". The whole article shows all references for people just like you who (for some reason) think they wrote it all themselves despite the repeated explanations throughout.

Jeffrey McMunn: Good stuff, Señor Maickon. . .

Please notice the last comment. Evidently, he thought the article was well-done. Olé! Olé! Olé!

By the way, 11 hours ago I received a report of another Christian sharing the article with atheists/Christians/others.

Will the article be widely shared among Christian YouTubers and Christian bloggers/websites? Stay tuned for further developments! Conservative 02:00, 25 January 2015 (EST)

74 people told their friends about this article - so far.  :) Is this just the beginning? :) Conservative 13:17, 25 January 2015 (EST)
I like the article; it just shows how foolish atheists are. Karajou 08:29, 27 January 2015 (EST)

My spider sense is tingling

User Conservative, I thought I'd take a look at to check out the claims your collective made and I found that all the quotes your collective posted above were there. Your collective's article did indeed make an impact with these people.

I remember a few days ago that AugustO posted a comment on this talkpage (hastily archived by your collective) that brought attention to the fact that a lot of likes seem to originate from outside the U.S., particularly Middle/Far East countries.

I found this site which can show the countries which the 'facebook likes' originate from. It's in German but easy to work out! Don't take my word for it, do it yourself.

Here is what I found out: 59% of the total 'likes' for come from just 6 countries - Indonesia (17.6%), Pakistan (12.4%), Iraq (8.3%), Nepal (7.9%). Bangladesh (6.5%) and Algeria (6.4%).

Likes from America are 5.6%.

It could be argued that this is an international website so obviously it would attract a great deal of likes from all over the world. Although it is written in English... And all the comments are in English...

After a little more digging, I came across the phrase 'Click farms' [1]. Apparently there are many businesses where facebook users can purchase 'likes' to bolster support for their page. The workers for these sites are often paid very low wages[2]. The 'click farms' are often in developing countries and particularly in Asia.

To be blunt, I think is buying facebook 'likes' to boost the popularity of it's articles.

I know the evidence I've presented is circumstantial but maybe it would be wise if your collective could investigate this further before using this facebook page as a reliable source for proving your group's successes.

EJamesW 17:14, 26 January 2015 (EST)

A few points:
1. FFAF did NOT share Conservapedia's main atheism article. Yet, the CP's main atheism article has 25 Google Plus likes, 4,122 Facebook likes, and 343 Twitter tweets. And all of these social media likes/tweets were unsolicited.
2. I already covered the issue of Facebook advertising and the issue of it bringing some unwanted likes to your web page, etc. I was told by a friend of mine that FFAF does a lot of Facebook advertising so it is understandable that they would receive some unwanted Faceboook like. In addition, I am not sure if they do Facebook advertising in countries outside the USA. Wit that being said, I am really not a big fan of Facebook. I like YouTube much better. I like the business plan of YouTube much better than Facebook too and just saw an interesting video on this topic HERE.
3. FFAF is just a portion of the traffic to CP's atheism articles. I/we just like seeing some immediate feedback (their fans' comments about the CP atheism articles) to my/our new atheism articles that FFAF chooses to share with their fans. For example, FFAF shared my/our "Atheism statistics" article on the their Facebook page and it got 1,337 Facebook likes, 39 comments, and 93 shares. Personally, I like reading the comments and appreciate the 93 Facebook shares the article got. I really don't care about the Facebook likes. I just mentioned the Facebook likes for fun.
At the same time, the newly created CP atheism article called "Atheism statistics" currently has 1,623 Facebook likes and 2 Twitter tweets so far. So if you do the math you have 1,623 total Facebook likes minus 1,337 FFAF Facebook likes equals 286 Facebook likes not received from the FFAF source. So where did those extra 286 Facebook likes come from? Well, I believe most of them came from a Christian or Christians at Facebook who like my articles and share them with others.
4. If you don't think my articles are having an impact, I am fine with that. If you do, that is fine too. I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it either way and I/we am/are quite content. In fact, I actually prefer the opposition to underestimate me/us. :) As Sun Tzu said, 卑则骄之 and 知彼知己,百戰不殆;不知彼而知己,一勝一負;不知彼,不知己,每戰必殆 And of course, he also said, 微乎微乎,至于无形;神乎神乎,至于无声;故能为敌之司命。  :) I hope that clarifies things! :) Conservative 18:20, 26 January 2015 (EST)
By the way, will the "atheism and statistics" article be shared via YouTube Christians and amongst Christian bloggers? Stay tuned for further developments! Unless of course, it is done clandestinely! 此(译注:用间)兵之要,三军之所恃而动也。  :) Conservative 18:42, 26 January 2015 (EST)

Hello user:conservative. All I'm saying is that this your group should avoid citing this facebook page - as a success indicator for your articles. I'm glad you've conceded it uses 'underhand' techniques to boost support for the posts it makes. Why don't you make your own facebook page instead? EJamesW 18:40, 26 January 2015 (EST)

As far as it using so-called "underhanded" methods, I conceded no such thing. Did you watch this video or are you just spouting off without being knowledgeable about this matter? I have been told that FFAF is largely supported by a foundation with considerable resources. I would guess that they would have to submit reports on their operating expenses (Facebook adverting, etc) and a foundation would not pay for click farm fees. The bottom line is that legitimate Facebook advertisers will have some unwanted likes from click farmers.
I think you are wasting my time about this matter at this point. Feel free to engage in last wordism. :) Conservative 18:52, 26 January 2015 (EST)
Conservative, your articles that have been published on the FFAF facebook page have been quite informative and have therefore bringed me to this wonderful site. Arigato 18:10, 5 February 2015 (EST)
Arigato, thanks for the compliment about the atheism articles. Conservative 19:17, 5 February 2015 (EST)
I think FFAF will be sharing another Conservapedia atheism article sometime this month. If this occurs, it will be announced at Conservapedia. Conservative 19:32, 5 February 2015 (EST)

Suggestion for fixing line height

There is a fix here for fixing line height of refs, which is a noticeable visual flaw on pages right now:

--Joshua Zambrano 19:25, 25 January 2015 (EST)

Joshua, the owner of the website is User:Aschlafly. I suggest contacting him via his user talk page about this matter. Also, give him a link to a wiki that uses this extension so he can see the results of employing this extension. Conservative 02:11, 26 January 2015 (EST)
I know. :) I've already made dozens of pages on Conservapedia.[3] I've just been away for a while. --Joshua Zambrano 04:22, 26 January 2015 (EST)
About a year and a half or so to be specific. I tend to do a ton of editing all at once in a short amount of time, but when active I get a lot accomplished. [4] --Joshua Zambrano 04:26, 26 January 2015 (EST)

Patriots football-deflating scandal

What exactly is Conservapedia claiming credit for correctly predicting on Main Page Right here?---eg

The Patriots

Well, I guess they didn't need a guy who for some reason is featured tackling his own mother to win. It's mildly annoying being a Green Bay fan, knowing they'd have taken care of New England like they did earlier in the season, but hey. RedG 01:46, 2 February 2015 (EST)

Did they win? Post Deflategate, everyone knows they aren't really Super Bowl champions. If the end, cheaters never truly prosper. Conservative 02:54, 2 February 2015 (EST)
According to the ceremonies last night, it was indeed the Patriots who accepted the Lombardi trophy. So yes, I'd say they won. RedG 14:12, 2 February 2015 (EST)

Halal Deceit Uncovered

Even a bunch of animal activists can be useful - see animal abuse in UK Halal slaughterhouse revealed by hidden camera. So called "inspectors" from the government overlooked inadequacies so as not to make Muslims look bad. This may be Main Page Right material - let me know what you think! ConsMovies 10:12, 3 February 2015 (EST)

By the way, there are many overlooked Conservative Movies still to add to Essay:Greatest Conservative Movies, which is why I have added Mars Needs Moms. ConsMovies 10:13, 3 February 2015 (EST)

Kosher meat better than most Western World supermarket meat?

Please look at THIS and THIS. The Jewish manner of slaughtering animals may be more humane than modern methods and the meat may be better for human consumption.
This is what the secular, liberal NY Times was forced to admit: "Kosher foods, which must meet a number of dietary and processing rules to comply with traditional Jewish law, are the fastest growing ethnic cuisine, reports the market research firm Mintel. Sales of kosher foods reached $12.5 billion in 2008, an increase of 64 percent since 2003."[5]Conservative 17:47, 3 February 2015 (EST)
Part the reason for the uptick of the demand for kosher meat is the process of desecularization and the growth of religious conservatism which happening presently and is expected to continue in the 21st century due to the higher fertility rates of religious conservatives (see: Decline of global atheism). Conservative 17:56, 3 February 2015 (EST)
There's another reason for the uptick in demand for kosher food... it's delicious. --DonnyC 21:36, 3 February 2015 (EST)
Without comment on the taste (I'm more of an organ meat guy, I don't consider myself qualified to comment on the finer cuts of meat), just in case you think all kosher butchers are following protocol you might want to do a search for Doheney's. Make of that what you will. RedG 23:36, 3 February 2015 (EST)
Members of User:Conservative, is that the view you all share? Of course standards can slip in any slaughterhouse/abattoir but the real story here is a secular regulator turning a blind eye for fear of looking "racist." In their quest for an appearance of liberal "balance" they let Muslims do anything! This means that in Britain halal is just another word for unregulated! ConsMovies 19:19, 7 February 2015 (EST)


Not the best source, but ...

I thought one of the tenets of Christianity was tolerance, it's sad to see things like this. RedG 15:41, 10 February 2015 (EST)
Practicing toleration towards something presupposes that you think it's morally wrong. Is that how you are characterizing the activity of gays, as morally wrong? VargasMilan 17:12, 10 February 2015 (EST)
I have no objections, moral or otherwise, to gay people or their expressions of sexuality (I'm straight but have chosen to be single my entire life), but evidently the people running this school do. Instead of simply allowing this student to live his life they chose to try to impose their views on him, hardly an act of tolerance. RedG 22:58, 10 February 2015 (EST)
You are conflating two meanings of the word "tolerance". In one sense it means "not interfering with at all". In another it means "not making something illegal". Actually, there are lots of things that are legal that we should earnestly persuade people not to do. VargasMilan 10:14, 11 February 2015 (EST)

John Kitzhaber

Could someone with a knowledge of American politics update John Kitzhaber? Thanks --AugustO 15:41, 19 February 2015 (EST)

Quick question

How is having no gun control whatsoever working out in Somalia? I've heard the place described as many things, are safe and stable among them? If you think it's such a paradise because anyone can walk around with military-grade weapons, I suggest you pay the place a visit yourself. RedG 22:43, 24 February 2015 (EST)

Response to your question

Somalia was a worse place when the oppressive liberals/leftists were in power. Anarchy is turning out better than an oppressive and corrupt leftist government. See: Somali “Anarchy” Is More Orderly than Somali Government

So put that in your leftist pipe and smoke it!

At the same time, countries with a Protestant cultural heritage are better places to live than a Muslim/tribal/anarchy type situation and have produced the most productive and free societies in the history of the world.

Harvard University historian Niall Ferguson declared: "Through a mixture of hard work and thrift the Protestant societies of the North and West Atlantic achieved the most rapid economic growth in history."[6]

Switzerland has one of the top and most stable economies in the world, low gun fatalities and murder/crime rates and generous gun rights. It also has one of the highest percentages of biblical creationists in Europe.[7]

See also:

I hope this clarifies things! Conservative 23:40, 24 February 2015 (EST)

So are you telling me you'd be willing to go for a firsthand experience? RedG 00:34, 25 February 2015 (EST)
You lost this battle leftie. Best to lick your wounds.
By the way, unlike drab attired Maoists, partly thanks to their exposure to the fashionable Italian capitalists (who formerly engaged in the sin of colonization) the Somalis are one of the best dressed people in the world!!!!. Viva Italia! And Italy allows concealed carry gun permits to boot! Conservative 00:41, 25 February 2015 (EST)
And one other thing: Unlike many corpulent Western atheists, Somalis are generally slim! See: Google search for Somalis. Conservative 00:56, 25 February 2015 (EST)
I was unaware that having a large percentage of your country's population malnourished and starving to death was considered a virtue. RedG 11:18, 25 February 2015 (EST)

As a left-handed person myself, I take offense to your characterization above. Furthermore, I don't think that Somalis are actually that smartly attired in general. When I was watching the movie Captain Phillips, I wasn't thinking "Boy, those Somali pirates are snazzy dressers! I wonder, did they have those clothes custom-made by skilled European craftsmen, or did they buy them off the rack at Macy's?" But I will admit that they appeared to be less corpulent than Richard Dawkins or Rush Limbaugh.

I don't think the economic growth and prosperity of European countries, and the reason for same, were part of RedG's question. But thanks for giving us much food for thought. And, of course, now I'll have to write an article on the idiom "licking one's wounds".

By the way, Somalia and Abu-Dhabi are different countries. SamHB 09:44, 25 February 2015 (EST)

I just read that many Somalians are now facing food insecurity due due to a poor harvest and natural disasters in 2014 and current fighting. [8][9] Somalia has had at least 40 years of very bad governments or anarchy with fighting between tribes. I hope things improve. Conservative 11:48, 25 February 2015 (EST)

Re: Durham Free School

Just a quick point; the British Government isn't 'closing' the Durham Free School; it's withdrawing state funding from it because of the school's consistent failure to achieve nationally required, minimum educational standards. A report by OFSTED, the independent body charged with monitoring British schools, placed the school in 'special measures' in November 2014 because of the failures of staff and governors [10]. As a result of its failure to improve, the school will receive no further state funding. I'm not an expert in this field, but I understand that the school is free to carry on if the religious body that runs it wants to pick up all the bills. However, the British taxpayer will no longer be paying for a school which is patently failing in its duties to the children it's supposed to be educating. NicosB 12:19, 3 March 2015 (EST)

Atheist John Gray: Attention angry, SJWs who are afraid of the global flourishing of religion and conflate science with your pet political ideologies

Atheist John Gray: Attention angry, atheist SJWs who are afraid of the global flourishing of religion and conflate science with your pet political ideologies.[11]. The article is in The Guardian!!!!! Conservative 21:49, 4 March 2015 (EST)

Thanks for moving this off my talk page. I suppose it would be tacky to point out your carelessness in this matter, since your are presumably licking your wounds after the embarrassment of this, but please watch what you are doing.
And what's an SJW???? Single Jewish Woman? Seriously, I have no idea, and I suspect many other readers don't either. Please keep the intended audience in mind when you write. SamHB 22:37, 4 March 2015 (EST)
THIS is a SJW (ideology practiced by sour, angry, secular leftists). See: Various types of atheists/non-believers and anger. Conservative 00:39, 5 March 2015 (EST)
It's what Conservative fears most in the world: someone who thinks Christianity is something other than creationism and hate the homos, ClintBarton 14:59, 6 March 2015 (EST)

Fear? "The wicked flee when no one pursues, but the righteous are bold as a lion" - Solomon. "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love." - the Apostle John.

See also: Atheism and cowardice

Feel free to engage in last wordism. Conservative 15:25, 6 March 2015 (EST)

Recent news report about creationism rising in Europe

Science Nordic: Creationism is rising in Europe

John Hopkins Press: European Darwinism is a burning building

Johns Hopkins University Press reported in 2014: "Over the past forty years, creationism has spread swiftly among European Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Hindus, and Muslims, even as anti-creationists sought to smother its flames."[12]

The 21st century is going to be a horrendous century for Darwinism and atheism. See: Desecularization and Biblical Christianity spreading quickly in Europe.

Are you ready atheists/evolutionists? It sure doesn't look like it! See: Atheism and leadership and Atheist movement and Atheism: A house divided and in global decline.

It's inevitable militant atheists. No point fighting a lost cause. Conservative 15:52, 6 March 2015 (EST)

Data showing atheism is in a slump?

Attention Atheists: Google trends indicates: You are in a slump![13]

New Jersey Sen. Robert Menendez story

It seems logical. I mean Menendez is publicly in opposition of Obama's Iran deal. He is the target of the Obama administration. How many times can you count the Democrats targeting a fellow Democrat? It is rare, possibly never, do they go on the attack against one another. By the way, he should have been prosecuted for his prostitution scandal. --Jpatt 17:52, 6 March 2015 (EST)

Classic showdown: New data

Showdown: Creation Ministries International vs. Richard Dawkins. Who wins?

ISIS/Islamic State

If we are going to use "ISIS" on the main page, as I certainly think we should, perhaps our article should be moved so that the title corresponds. There are various Islamic states, past and present, so many media organizations have adopted "ISIS" to avoid confusion. PeterKa 18:47, 10 March 2015 (EDT)

Germanwings flight: Islamic terrorism?

At the moment, there is not even a hind of evidence supporting such a connection. The total absence of recorded prayers could link the copilot to atheism, so I assume that atheists will be the next group you want to associate with this horrible tragedy.

It's just a despicable question, obviously trying to exploit this terrible, terrible incident.

--AugustO 16:24, 28 March 2015 (EDT)

...that is, if you ignore recent history of Muslims causing incidents on commercial flights. Such as the shoe bomber, the underwear bomber, the soft drink bottle bombers, the multiple praying imams incident—all intended to refresh our memory of the three thousand innocent civilians and firefighters killed on September 11, 2001 in New York.
Recently the Taliban machine-gunned over a hundred people at a school, so most people know that Islamic terrorism hasn't gone away.
But I see that you're not too aggrieved by the incident so as to lack the energy to sweep away these obvious relevancies to Islam and impugn those who make appropriate connections between the two. VargasMilan 00:20, 30 March 2015 (EDT)
  • After Lubitz did a stint as a male fight attendant, they called him "Tomato Andy." That's because "while a tomato is thought to be a vegetable, it is really a fruit."[14] The reason you didn't laugh is because that was a German joke and they're not supposed to be funny. Just think how many more people Lubitz could have murdered if it wasn't for those tight German gun control laws. PeterKa 21:22, 30 March 2015 (EDT)
Two things:
1. Although many airplane terrorists have been Muslims, there appears to be no evidence he was a Muslim: He appears to be have been an egotistical, selfish, bitter and depressed individual who had suicidal tendencies in the past.[15][16] I will let AugustO determine if those characteristics best fit Bible believers or atheists/irreligious individuals.
According to the Eurobarometer Poll taken in 2010, 45% of Germans agreed with the statement "I believe there is a God".[17] See also: Atheism and arrogance and Atheism and social intelligence and Atheism and loneliness and Atheism and bitterness and Atheism and uncharitableness and Atheism and depression and Atheism and suicide.
2. "Reinforced, bullet-proof doors became standard for most of the world’s airlines after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks as a way to prevent intruders from entering the cockpit."[18] Conservative 03:41, 31 March 2015 (EDT)

Tiger Woods

Is no longer a top 100 golfer.[19]--GhazS 17:33, 30 March 2015 (EDT)

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