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News pick

Study: Number of uninsured plummets in New Jersey. Also, I was wondering whether Mr. Schlafly has the appellate briefs in Hotze so I can work on making an article about that case. --GregG 09:16, 23 May 2014 (EDT)

Interesting suggestions, Greg. I'll follow-up on both of these and review the further.--Andy Schlafly 10:35, 23 May 2014 (EDT)

Public school funding crisis

Resources on the public school funding crisis that could easily grow worse: http://www.centerforpubliceducation.org/Main-Menu/Public-education/Cutting-to-the-bone-At-a-glance/Cutting-to-the-bone-How-the-economic-crisis-affects-schools.html andhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiUKpX09zo4

Bill Gates has said that if things don't change that public education could see 50% cuts. It looks like some more torpedoes are heading towards the S.S. Liberalism, S.S. Evolution and S.S. Atheism.

Privatization and vouchers will definitely be part of the solution. Conservative 20:13, 25 May 2014 (EDT)

"Obama signs bill - in secret - restricting free speech."

It looks like (1) the headline is about 2 years old, and (2) the article greatly exaggerates the actual effect of HR 347. See the ACLU's cautious stance on it here. GregG 20:08, 26 May 2014 (EDT)

Re: Infamous Killers and Liberal California

California's population dwarves the combined population of the states you mentioned. Comparing liberal California to conservative South Dakota is about as fair as comparing conservative Texas to liberal Rhode Island.--JBrent 22:25, 26 May 2014 (EDT)

Feel free to show that per capita people in liberal states do not commit a disproportionate amount of infamous/gruesome/mass murders. See: Homosexuality and murder ans Homosexual murders and brutality and Atheism and mass murder and the big government, pro-evolution Nazi regime was well known for its mass murder and grisly murders.
You have your Boston Strangler and Hillside strangler. Ted Bundy was from liberal Vermont. How many Amish stranglers have there been? Conservative Christians do not go on serial murder rampages. It is bitter, hateful, liberal, control freaks who go on murderous rampages.Conservative 23:29, 26 May 2014 (EDT)
By the way, I noticed you engaged in the fallacy of exclusion. I wrote: Why do so many infamous killers come from liberal California and not conservatives states like Alabama, Georgia, Nebraska, South Carolina, South Dakota, Wyoming,etc.? (bold emphasis added to the word "etc.").
Also, the reason I didn't mention Texas is that I know that Texas has a lot of immigration from failed liberal states. In terms of any Texas incidents, I would have to investigate where the person was originally raised. Judging from all the grisly and/or mass murders of liberals (See: Homosexuality and murder ans Homosexual murders and brutality and Atheism and mass murder and the big government, pro-evolution Nazi regime was well known for its mass murder and grisly murders), it certainly would not be surprising if California has a higher percentage of native born "Charles Manson" like serial/grisly murderers than Texas. Conservative 00:26, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
I looked up a few of the notorious Texas serial killers. here is what I found: 1) Dean Corrl - homosexual who killed 27 young men. Not a conservative! 2) George J. Hennard - a 35-year-old merchant seaman who lost his job after marijuana was found in his room on a ship. Liberal! 3) Coral Eugene Watts - Raised in Michigan near the failed liberal city of Detroit, his mother was a divorced Detroit public school teacher, attended public schools as a child and had two failed marriages. Definitely a liberal or RINO! 4) Charles Albright - attended the secular public universities North Texas University and Arkansas State Teacher College. He divorced his wife. Definitely not a true conservative!
Do you see a pattern here? Why do Texas liberals try so hard to spoil the conservative state of Texas? Conservative 01:24, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
Challenge to liberals: Give me the name of one serial killer who had one of these backgrounds: 1) A Christian home schooler 2) A student who graduated from evangelical Christian private schooling 3) Amish/Mennonite Conservative 03:13, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
Israel Keyes is an example of a serial killer who was raised in a conservative Christian home and was home schooled.[1] --KAJohnson 14:38, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
So ready to blame conservative/Christian parents for Keyes killing spree? Same source you provided mentions that the killer himself was an atheist. Hardly Christian or conservative, because he abandoned both. Karajou 14:54, 27 May 2014 (EDT)

KAJohnson (and JamesMC), just as I suspected. You failed! First, Israel Keyes was raised a Mormon and not a Christian. This is quite telling given that 285,000,000 Christians self-identify as evangelical Christians in the world. In addition, you have all of evangelical Christian history to mine from and you still failed. Furthermore, there are 281,000 Amish in the world and hundreds of thousands of Mennonites in the world and you failed there too. Also, you have all of Amish/Mennonite history to find a single serial killer and you still failed.

I further cite:

"According to the Lutheran Missouri Synod, "The Lutheran Church--Missouri Synod, together with the vast majority of Christian denominations in the United States, does not regard the Mormon church as a Christian church." [8] In addition, the Southern Baptist Convention states that the Mormon religion is "not consistent with biblical Christianity." [9] The United Methodist Church has stated that the the Morman faith has "some radically differing doctrine on such matters of belief as the nature and being of God; the nature, origin, and purpose of Jesus Christ; and the nature and way of salvation." [10] According to Beliefnet.com there are a number of differences between the Mormon faith and traditional Christianity. [11]" See: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints

Next, your own source indicates, "Keyes later described himself on his Myspace page as an atheist."[2]

By the way, do you have any proof and evidence that atheism is true or that agnosticism is a valid worldview? The reason I ask is that Christendom has an abundance amount of evidence supporting Christianity. See also: Atheism and deception

Biblical Christianity: Still tried, true and triumphant! Olé! Olé! Olé! Señor Jesús! [3]

KAJohnson, please feel free to engage in last wordism at this point, but be aware that once again, biblical Christianity still retains the moral high ground over atheism/agnosticism/liberalism.Conservative 17:20, 27 May 2014 (EDT)

Seems I touched a nerve, didn’t expect the response I got. The facts are plain as day, Keyes was raised a Christian and was Christian home schooled, to deny these obvious facts is somewhat puzzling. Unless someone is insisting on using the ‘no true Scotsman fallacy’, I don’t see how my statement can be regarded as a ‘fail’. My research consisted of using “serial killer” and “home schooled” on Google, Keyes was the fifth response. I’m quite certain if anyone was genuinely interested in this subject, rotten apples could be found amongst any religions. I think it would be prudent to create an article on Israel Keyes. I’ll take the first steps; any other interested parties can fill in the blanks concerning his religion, schooling, etc.--KAJohnson 17:52, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
Yes, the facts are as plain as day, and here's some plain facts that you, KAJohnson, chose to ignore, and the beauty of them is that you provided it yourself:
"Born in Utah to Mormon parents, Keyes was home schooled and attended a Christian Identity church called The Ark in tiny Colville, Wash., which has fewer than 5,000 residents. The church believes that Aryans, not Jews, are the true Israelites and created an anti-Semitic atmosphere. Keyes later described himself on his Myspace page as an atheist."
He "described himself as an atheist". He attended an anti-Semetic (i.e. Jew-hating) "church" that catered to the Aryan Nation, hardly a Christian organization. He committed cold-blooded murder. What he did in his life does not amount to either conservatism or Christianity, yet you come here and spin whatever "facts" you can come up with to paint him as though he was both. That is called LYING, KAJohnson, and I'm not going to put up with that. Karajou 18:17, 27 May 2014 (EDT)

KAJohnson, you wrote: "I’m quite certain if anyone was genuinely interested in this subject, rotten apples could be found amongst any religions". Then simply find a single evangelical Christian, Amish or Mennonite serial killer - especially one who was home schooled or was schooled in a Christian school. You can't do it - despite having a 285,000,000 plus population and their spiritual historical predecessors to do so! You failed! Again! Conservative 18:12, 27 May 2014 (EDT)

This[4] is an extensive listing of news sources and other websites devoted to Israel Keyes; the Myspace page he once had was deleted, and the link given over to another account. Like it of not, KAJohnson and anyone else on your side of the fence, Keyes was a racist, atheistic psychopath who abandoned what little Christianity was taught to him when he was younger, and there are dozens of people who had to pay for his decision with their lives. Karajou 18:50, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
Karajou, KA Johnson unsuccessfully tried to invoke that I was committing the "No true Scotsman" fallacy, despite the fact that he knew that Keyes wasn't even "born in the UK". Keyes wasn't even remotely related to being a "Scotsman". Mormons have never been Christians and they never will be! Conservative 20:00, 27 May 2014 (EDT)

Pro-life news pick

"15-year-old girl allegedly locked inside abortion facility rescued by pro-lifer: Report". This came from a newsletter I subscribe to; if Mr. Schlafly wants more information about this newsletter, he can contact me privately. GregG 09:08, 27 May 2014 (EDT)

Godlessness is on the rise - according to Newscientist

Worried to read that all over the world, agnosticism and atheism are on rise, contrary to what I thought. Disturbing reading. have a look

--Maria O'Connor 15:03, 28 May 2014 (EDT)

I would not believe an internet report about this matter unless they tell you how they came up with their statistics and they use reliable methods. I would also look at the longer term durability of a trend as trends often do not go on forever.
By 2025, there is expected to be about 6,000,000 less atheists in the world (click the link "status of global mission"): http://www.gordonconwell.edu/resources/CSGC-Resources.cfm (they tell you how they came up with their statistics). By 2050, it is expected to be even worse for the militant atheist crowd, see: Global atheism. It has to do with fertility rates; dropped/dropping/future dropping of rates of secularization in some European countries and religious immigration where the immigrants have proved to be resistant to secularization. Plus, we have Christianization occurring in China. Conservative 17:29, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
If you want see good videos on this, see: http://fora.tv/2010/09/05/Eric_Kaufmann_Shall_the_Religious_Inherit_the_Earth and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7vCDeKPRSo and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7vCDeKPRSo
If you want to read a scholarly book about this, read: http://www.amazon.com/Shall-Religious-Inherit-Earth-Twenty-First/dp/1846681448 Conservative 17:38, 28 May 2014 (EDT)

Two final points:

1. Biblical Christianity is growing in Latin America, Africa and Asia and parts of Europe too (France, London, etc.). For example, Church attendance grew 16% in the years 2005 -2102 in London. The attendance was particularly growing among pentecostal churches.[5] Evangelical Christianity is the fastest growing religion in France according to French scholars.[6]

2. Christians can always evangelize their neighborhoods. Conservative 19:13, 28 May 2014 (EDT)

Commander in Chief

The MPR item, "Barack Obama is a failure as commander in chief. He receives standing ovation from less than 25% of West Point cadets." has a lot of problems. First, the source is a tea party crusaider blog written by someone who was not there. Second, we should judge President Obama's performance as Commander in Chief based on his actions and decisions, not on whether cadets give him a standing ovation before they even hear what he has to say. There is nothing requireing the cadets to give a standng ovation, and they are supposed to be respectful and apolitical while in uniform. Perhaps a better assessment would be how Pres. Obama was received by the troops during his surprise visit to Afgahanistan just before Memorial Day. I suggest deleting it. Thanks, Wschact 23:41, 28 May 2014 (EDT)

Expanded entry: Barack Obama is a failure as commander in chief. He receives tepid applause and a short standing ovation from less than 25% of West Point cadets.[7][8] I could have mentioned the VA Hospital failures of the Obama administration in the entry, but I didn't want to pile on. Conservative 04:05, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
That is an improvement, but the basic problem is that we should judge Pres. Obama's performance as Commander in Chief based on his actions and decisions. I think he has been as good or better than George W. Bush, and the idea of keeping 10,000 troops in Afghanistan is reasonable. Every true conservative believes that we should not short change our Veterans. The problem with the VA is that there are many more Veterans requiring services, but Congress has not increased funding proportionately. The Obama Administration's move from paper records to electronic records is a positive step. Things are getting better -- Veteran homelessness is down and education benefits are better and more flexible. We would be better off working on an article about the Dept of Veterans Affairs or about Obama's Role as Commander in Chief than in further refining MPR. I worry that the heart of Conservapedia -- its articles -- are not being kept up to date and the number of articles is not increasing. A provocative main page can have only a limited affect for the project. Wschact 14:02, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
Wschact is trying to distract us from the real issue in the US today: applause. Also, Wschact openly and provocatively disagrees with the user/users of the Conservative account, (a) respected editor/editors and sysop/sysops. Furthermore Wschact wrote "affect" instead of "effect" - a mistake typical of liberals! And additionally the number of articles is always increasing (see the many Atheism and ... articles). Worry about the "heart of Conservapedia" is a veiled attack on users of the Conservative account, since they are the heart of Conservapedia. Godspeed! BarrySM 17:12, 29 May 2014 (EDT)

Just 32 percent of military veterans who served in Iraq or Afghanistan approve of the job Barack Obama is doing as president, according to a new poll from the Washington Post and the Kaiser Family Foundation.[9] Military Times Poll: Romney bests Obama, 2-1.[10]

The Israelis and Sun Tzu would have beefed up their foreign intelligence human operatives to a greater degree and gotten Osama bin Laden sooner. Sun Tzu would have pulled out of the ill-conceived Iraqi and Afghanistan wars sooner.

There is nothing provocative about indicating that Barack Obama is a failure as commander in chief.Conservative 17:32, 29 May 2014 (EDT)

Furthermore, the private sector has been shown to increase quality, reduce costs and provide more choices. The VA Hospital system has failed for some time. It is time to give the veterans vouchers so they do not have to wait for care and die for lack of care due to unnecessary waiting lines. It will also save the taxpayers money. Conservative 18:46, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
Assuming everything in the above two comments is accurate, it makes my point. We should judge a Commander-in-Chief based on his actions and decisions -- not on audience ovations. I am getting flashbacks to Pres. George W. Bush landing on the aircraft carrier and making a speech with a "mission accomplished" banner in the background. The VA is a separate matter, and my point is that Conservapedia should list the current acting Secretary of VA and include detailed coverage of why the past Secretary resigned. A high school kid should not have to go to Wikipedia to find an up-to-date list of the United States cabinet. I understand that MPR items are written to create a bit of sizzle, but we are forgetting to cook the stake (substantive articles). Thanks,Wschact 08:13, 31 May 2014 (EDT)

What are Obama's foreign policy achievements? Also, do our allies respect/like Obama or is the relationship strained? Has the Snowden affair and Obama's handling of it, hurt our relationship with our allies? Is Germany a leading power of Europe? Do you think Angela Merkel, whose phone was tapped by the NSA, respects/likes Obama? Has Obama treated any UK leader shabbily with a thoughtless gift while receiving a thoughtful gift from the UK leader? If Obama gave a thoughtless gift to s UK leader and the UK is one of our key allies, do you think it was because he is narcissistic? Has Obama ever displayed narcissistic behavior? Is the military generally made of people who lean towards conservatism? Is Obama conservative or is he left of Jimmy Carter? Does a leader need followers who will enthusiastically follow his leadership in order to optimize his effectiveness? Do you think the general troops and elite military units/commanders think his leadership over the military has been effective? If so, why? If most of the military is conservative, do you think they like his policies regarding homosexuals in the military? Do followers like when their leaders are concerned about them? Does the VA hospital scandal and Obama's knowledge of the VA hospitals problems in 2008 erode the military's trust of Obama? Does Obama's pro-global warming stance give him more or less leverage over Putin? Does America's greater debt to China and others under Obama give us more or less leverage with China? User:Conservative 16:53, 31 May 2014 (EDT)

The answer is simple: Obama bragged about being a killer when he whacked bin Laden. This is, to put it gently, unprofessional. What example does that set to enlisted personal? Why take all the "glory" for himself and deny credit to the Bush-Cheney cabal he kept on the payroll?
Being Commander-in-Chief is not just elevating and promoting yourself as a vindictive killer, which is what Obama and his apologists have done. OscarO 17:05, 31 May 2014 (EDT)
For any Republican, the decision to kill Bin Laden would be as easy as snapping your fingers. Obama spent nine months agonizing about it, trying to think of some way out of the dilemma he found himself in. I guess he finally realized there was no way he could get reelected if he let Bin Laden go. So under the bus Bin Laden went, like Jeremiah Wright before him. Judging from the Bergdahl deal, Obama is a whole lot happier when he is releasing terrorists. PeterKa 07:32, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
PeterKa, could you elaborate? I know it takes some time to gather intelligence and to plan military missions like Operation Neptune Spear.[11] Conservative 12:49, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
Here's Bergen: "Top Obama aide Valerie Jarrett has a 'Rasputin-like' hold over the president and persuaded him on three occasions in January, February and March 2011 not to launch the raid into Pakistan to take out bin Laden."[12] The White House worried that Wikileaks would reveal the operation if they sat on it any longer. This was a rare defeat for Jarrett, who usually gets her way in this administration. If wasn't for Wikileaks, I assume Obama would still be "agonizing" over this issue.PeterKa 02:49, 5 June 2014 (EDT)

After Obama bugged her phone, Angela Merkel says "Keine chloriertem Geflügelfleisch!" to Obama

After Barack Obama bugged her phone, Angela Merkel gets some payback. We don't want your chlorinated chicken.[13] Germany has lower salmonella-chicken problems than the United States without the potential risks of chlorine baths. [14][15][16]

Why does Barack and Michelle Obama like their chicken chlorinated when natural levels of ozone in poultry production facilities and ozonated water along with other methods is more effective and has less potential risks?[17] Conservative 19:25, 31 May 2014 (EDT)

Just for your information User:Conservative, the german translation for 'No chlorinated chicken!' is 'Kein chloriertes Geflügelfleisch!'. Google translate is a poor translator. Glad I could help! :) RomanCatholic

Thanks for letting me know. The User: Conservative account knows 3 languages well and plans on learning at least 2 more. :)
By the way, I heard that atheists and agnostics are having a hard time making inroads into the Hispanic population in the Americas as a whole - especially among the señoras and señoritas. [18] Lack of machismo? :) On the other hand, evangelicals are making great inroads among evangelicals in the Americas as a whole.[19][20] :) Conservative 15:30, 2 June 2014 (EDT)
Frankly, as a member of the largest and still growing church in the world I don't mind some people falling from the one true church. But enough with the chitchat. I'm not interested in violating the 90/10 rule any more. I have better things to do with my time. :) RomanCatholic
There is only one true church and the head of that church is Jesus Christ. Conservative 17:28, 2 June 2014 (EDT)

speedy

Can any sysop please delete the pages from Category:Speedy deletion candidates?--JoeyJ 05:02, 31 May 2014 (EDT)

Did it.Conservative 06:06, 31 May 2014 (EDT)
  • Thanks.--JoeyJ 07:10, 31 May 2014 (EDT)

The most recent mass shooting

Shootings in the United States occur on a regular basis. What do you guys this of this interpretation of gun ownership I borrowed?

Imagine a country whose constitution enshrined the right to own poisonous snakes, and had widespread poisonous snake ownership. Imagine this country had a problem with high fatalities due to poisonous snake bites well in excess of other similar countries.

Then imagine this country, and it's well-funded lobby of poisonous snake breeders and owners arguing that the high rate of fatal poisonous snake bites were due to (a) poor snake handling techniques, or (b) violent video games, or (c) drugs and urban gangs, or (d) some other ludicrous reason.

Then imagine this same coalition of pro-poisonous snake owning lobbies went on TV and said the problem was insufficient poisonous snake ownership, or too many restrictions on poisonous snake ownership, or insufficient enforcement of existing laws around poisonous snake ownership. And then rubbishing studies that correlated high rates of poisonous snake ownership with high rates of fatalities due to poisonous snake bites. JamieJamesJ 16:24, 1 June 2014 (EDT)

Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world and it does not have a significant gun violence problem.[21] They also have one of the highest rates of biblical creationism in Europe and one of the highest standards of living in the world.[22] :) Conservative 16:37, 2 June 2014 (EDT)
It's not often that I agree with Conservative, but he/she/they/it has a point. Similarly Canada has high gun ownership and relatively low gun crime. This is a probelm specific to the USA. To put it simply: Guns don't kill people - Americans kill people. --DHouser 17:19, 2 June 2014 (EDT)
The analogy still stands though, it's just specific to the United States. JamieJamesJ 17:24, 2 June 2014 (EDT)
In these days of budgetary cutbacks in the USA and high levels of government debt, having citizens solely rely on the police arriving in a timely manner as far as armed protection is a bad idea. See: Detroit: Four Hour Police Response Times Now a Reality. Often Democrat dominated areas with strict gun laws, have high rates of crime. Conservative 17:41, 2 June 2014 (EDT)

By the way, has anyone ever noticed that liberals have an excessive reliance on analogies, hypothesis, theories, extrapolations, computer models, censorship and deceit (gun control, Darwinism, global warming alarmism, etc. etc.) whereas Christian conservatives are more reliant on facts, logic and history.

Is it any wonder that liberal ideologies are more subject to unintended consequences like citizens dying in Detroit due to slow police response times? Thank God the apostles of Jesus Christ, who were eyewitnesses, did not die for a lie. Thank God for the fast spreading early Christian church who were empowered by God and had full assurance of their beliefs.

Christian conservatism stands on bedrock! On the other hand, liberal ideologies can be easily battered down with simple historical facts like high levels of responsible gun ownership in Switzerland and liberals in crime infested Detroit waiting 4 hours for police. Shooting down liberalism is like shooting fish in a barrel. Conservative 18:23, 2 June 2014 (EDT)

Your point of slow response time in an extreme case is pretty irrelevant compared to the many times more deaths per capita than countries with strict gun control like Australia and the United Kingdom. If you're so worried about people's safety then strict gun control is the most effective way.
I don't think you can accuse liberals of those things or claim to be reliant on "facts, logic and history". Your reliance on stories in the Bible that have been proven to be untrue, such as Noah's Ark, the Jews being slaves in Egypt and dinosaurs being around just a few thousand years ago prove that to be untrue. The reason you can't find any historians/scientists to support those stories who aren't Christian is because they're untrue.
You've been very deceitful on this site and practise censorship on innumerable occasions. Here's a nice example: http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Christopher_Hitchens&action=historysubmit&diff=1075168&oldid=1022817
Here's a selection of the deceitful changes in that link:
"his support of the Iraq War, which was motivated by his hatred of religion - in his own words, he supported the Iraq War simply because Iraqis were Muslim, which has been compared to endorsement of racially-motivated genocide."
Completely untrue and you know it (love the absence of a source too).
You change this: "asked by an audience member whether it was "good that the Bible prohibits humans from having sex with animals." Hitchens answered that moral codes of this kind do not need a supernatural author"
to this: The first audience member to ask a question twice asked Christopher Hitchens to label bestiality as an immoral act, but he refused to do so.
Very misleading change, as you very well know that he said the prohibition weren't needed because societies that practise it die out.
No wonder you locked the page just a minute after your last edit for the day. JamieJamesJ 19:00, 2 June 2014 (EDT)
JamieJamesJ, you have a poor grasp of logic and history. For example, you wrote: "The reason you can't find any historians/scientists to support those stories who aren't Christian is because they're untrue." This is an example of the genetic fallacy. And your poor grasp of religious history fails to grasp that there is certainly a possibility of ultra-Orthodox Jews, Muslims and Mormons who are historians/scientists who hold to the Noah's ark being historical and/or Jews being slaves in Egypt and/or dinosaurs and man coexisting, and it is not merely Bible believing Christian young earth creationists who hold to these positions. Shooting down liberal "logic" continues to be as easy as shooting fish in a barrel! Thank God there is such a vast reservoir of facts, logical arguments and history supporting conservative Christianity.
I will let readers decide the merits of the rest of your claims. Conservative 19:19, 2 June 2014 (EDT)
I just noticed that the British press outlet The Guardian has a special section of their website devoted to knife crimes: The Guardian - knife crime. I guess it is time for the British nannystate to ban knives! Conservative 20:04, 2 June 2014 (EDT)
"The findings show that police exert more effort when victims are White. They arrive faster at the scene of the crime and exert more follow-up effort after the crime has occurred.." - Journal of Ethnicity in Criminal Justice Volume:4 Issue:3 Dated:2006 [23] In an emergency, I would sure hate to be a black/hispanic lady in the inner city waiting for the police to arrive. Better to rely on the reliable gunsmithing of Glock Ges.m.b.H. . Liberal logic fails again! Conservative 00:06, 3 June 2014 (EDT)
  • If you want to control guns, wouldn't it be logical to start by taking them away from criminals? But, no, liberals oppose "stop and frisk." The kind of gun control they support is just posturing. Question: What's an "assault rifle"? Answer: A rifle whose manufacturer didn't pay gun control advocates often money to stay off the assault rifle list. PeterKa 05:34, 3 June 2014 (EDT)

'Has anyone ever noticed that liberals have an excessive reliance on analogies?' Has anyone ever noticed that Jesus had an excessive reliance on parables?--DHouser 12:41, 3 June 2014 (EDT)

There is a profound difference between weak liberal analogies which are easily debunked and sublime parables which have stood the test of time. What person has ever credibly said that Jesus had an excessive reliance on parables? None. The parables of Jesus are far too great for such a statement to withstand scrutiny.
Jesus was the greatest moral teacher who ever lived. What liberal compares to Jesus in his moral teaching? What liberal compares to Jesus as far as global influence?
Modern liberals often advocate a government spending more than a government takes in and other idiocies. As a result, most developed countries are saddled with a considerable amount of debt. They are often "me generation" selfish baby boomers who don't care about the next generation as much as their forefathers and don't care if they saddle their nation's children with debt (Due to their size, the baby boom generation still exerts the strongest influence on politics). As long as they can retire early, they are good to go.
The baby boomers are also the fattest generation which again is indicative of their self-centeredness. Their god is their belly. Their children often have problems with obesity too.
To even think that modern liberals can compare to Jesus is absurd in the highest degree. Conservative 14:50, 3 June 2014 (EDT)
By the way, gun loving Switzerland has a lower homicide rate than the UK and Australia.[24] My victory is complete!
If only America didn't have so many crime infested cities run by liberal Democrats! Conservative 18:11, 3 June 2014 (EDT)
Will the British nannystate ban household knives and force their citizens to eat government provided gruel and puree? Conservative 18:39, 3 June 2014 (EDT)