Talk:Mind and body

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There seems to be some ambiguity in the introduction concerning the emotional and the mental. They should not be used interchangeably. --Steve 17:19, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

"...the power of thoughts and emotions to positively influence physical health. As Hippocrates once wrote, "The natural healing force within each one of us is the greatest force in getting well." This is the essence of mind/body medicine. [1]

Is emotional health important to physical health?" (example). --Steve 17:21, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

In Molecules of Emotion, Dr. Candace Pert, PhD. provides a theoretical model to explain why this might be so. Since emotional expression is always tied to a specific flow of peptides in the body, the chronic suppression of emotions results in a massive disturbance of the psychosomatic network. Pert wonders, could being in touch with our emotions facilitate the flow of the peptides that help destroy errant cells? [1] [2] Candace B. Pert Ph.D. is Research Professor in the Department of Physiology and Biophysics at Georgetown University Medical Centre in Washington, D.C. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 10:37, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Copy/paste article

The body of this article is almost entirely copied and pasted from other sources (such as those listed in the references), although most is not presented as quotes. Changing it to display them as quotes will make it look silly, in my opinion. I think it should be deleted, rewritten, or expanded so that the quotes do not comprise the bulk of the article. Philip J. Rayment 08:29, 2 April 2008 (EDT)

I will take care of it. Just need some time that I don't have now. Please wait. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 15:27, 2 April 2008 (EDT)
I don't know whether you think the recent edits solve the problem, but they don't. The parts copied from other sources are still there and still not presented as quotes. They need to be either removed, or presented as quotes, but the problem with the latter is that the recent changes still don't change the fact that the article comprises almost entirely quotes and would look silly as such. Philip J. Rayment 07:05, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
I am sure your English is much better than mine. Could you please say the same ideas with different words? That could solve your problem; am I right? According to copyright rules it is perfectly right to take small sentences giving a link to the source, as we have in the article. But It could be better with your precious help. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 10:21, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
It is acceptable under copyright law to quote from a source, and provide the source of the quote. You've provided the sources, but you're not presenting them as quotes, so providing the sources gives the impression that you've got your ideas from those sites, not the words. As for changing some words, see here. Philip J. Rayment 11:04, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
The ideas that are presented in this article are NOT original ideas from the sources we are dealing. They are as old as Plato and Hippocrates, ancient Chines and Indian medicine, and a big ETC. So we are not taking ideas, just words that could be presented in a better way when we try to act in a constructive manner. Now, proceed as you please. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 11:14, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
It's the taking of words without making clear that you are quoting that is the problem. Whether the ideas are original to those sources or not is beside the point: The links give the impression that that's the case. I'm assuming that you are asking me to edit the article. I will, but only by turning the content into the quotes that they actually are. You then have two choices: A) Replace the quotes with material written in your own words, or B) add introductory material to each quote so that the article does not consist almost entirely of quotes. Philip J. Rayment 11:28, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
The article as it is now just needs some little changes, not to be destroyed! --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 11:55, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
The bottom line is that the copied text must be shown as quotes or deleted. They can be replaced with new text, but not simply have a few words changed, as that constitutes an altered copy of someone else's work. Philip J. Rayment 05:31, 9 April 2008 (EDT)

Scholars who have addressed the mind-body problem

I'm reminded of Sir John Eccles, author of Mind and Brain. --Ed Poor Talk 10:52, 8 April 2008 (EDT)