Talk:Sandinistas

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Are people's blogs suitable sources (Conservapedia:Commandments No. 2 Footnote 2.)? Auld Nick 09:35, 21 May 2007 (EDT)

Certainly not. Please research the matter carefully, and replace the any blog citations which a more trustworthy source. --Ed Poor 09:37, 21 May 2007 (EDT)


Why was I blocked from this page? My other name is ATIMEFORCHOOSING, I tried to add to this page but was blocked because of 'persistance vandalism' but that was my very first entry on conservapedia. I would rely like to contribute to this topic, I am writing my masters thesis on internal resistance to Sandinismo. Im scared to get blocked again though. FightOnTheBeaches 15:08, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

If you are sincere, email your writing plan. I can keep you from getting blocked. --Ed Poor Talk 15:19, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

Augusto César Sandino

Hi.

I wanted to know something: What's Augusto César Sandino's ties to the Sandinistas? I know in Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, Sandino was apparently the namesake for the Sandinistas, but I'm not sure if it's verifiable or not (especially when Peace Walker unfortunately sings praises for both the Sandinistas and Che Guevara), and there's nothing about him on here. Pokeria1 (talk) 16:34, 22 August 2016 (EDT)

Sandino had led forces in the Constitutionalist War loyal to the elected government against Chamorro's and then led the rebellion in the 1920s-30s against the American occupation of Nicaragua that followed. After the US withdrew, was assassinated by forces loyal to Somoza. He got a reputation after his death as a national hero; somebody who fought for liberty and independence against dictatorship and US imperialism. When the Sandinistas were formed, they named themselves after him as a way to co-opt his image. But they don't have any direct ties to Sandino, who died about 30 years before they were founded.--Whizkid (talk) 22:57, 22 August 2016 (EDT)
Sounds a bit like what Peace Walker gave. Any indications that Sandino was a Communist or Socialist, though? Because if he wasn't, then I don't think the Sandinistas should be fit to use his name for their activities, since it's unlikely Sandino would have approved of Marxism being placed in Nicaragua and if anything would most likely have sided with America. That's assuming he wasn't either a Communist or a Socialist. Pokeria1 (talk) 10:45, 23 August 2016 (EDT)
Sandino's politics were complicated. When he was in Mexico, he had been influenced by anarchism, anarcho-communism and the indigenous movement. During his revolution, he did take money from Communist groups, but that was probably less ideological on his part and more a matter of "Hey, we need money, and they're giving it.", but that stopped in the late '20s, after the Communists changed their policy and stopped supporting non-Communist groups. He also got involved in both the Spiritualist movement and Seventh Day Adventism, and seemed to think that he had a divine mission to liberate Nicaragua from American control.
So, there are no indications that Sandino was a Marxist, although some that he was an anarcho-syndicalist (He had founded a commune on the Mosquito Coast), and I don't know what he would have thought about the Sandinistas appropriating his name and image. I doubt he would have sided with America during the 70s and 80s. He hated Somoza and he hated the US government for their actions in Nicaragua.
I will say you see that a lot...groups appropriating historical figures to support their cause. Napoleon did it with Charlemagne, the modern Scottish nationalists do it with William Wallace, American Communists did it in the 1930s with Abraham Lincoln, the modern Tea Party movement does it with the Sons of Liberty. It's the whole, "Hey, this historical person or group is well loved, so if we manage to associate them with our movement, that'll make people like us better.--Whizkid (talk) 20:55, 24 August 2016 (EDT)
Okay. Fair enough. Though, did he also hate the Communists as well, even if he did take money from them? If he did hate them, I find it unlikely he would have supported them (and besides, wouldn't making Nicaragua a proxy state of the USSR be just as bad as letting America run Nicaragua if not even worse? It would seem hypocritical to advocate Nicaragua being a proxy state of the USSR or even Red China yet denouncing America making Nicaragua a proxy state.). Pokeria1 (talk) 15:51, 28 August 2016 (EDT)
Well, he certainly wouldn't have supported Nicaragua being a client state of the Soviet Union. I don't know if Sandino hated the Communists, but he certainly wasn't one, and his relationship with the Nicraguan communists was pretty rocky at best.--Whizkid (talk) 23:44, 5 September 2016 (EDT)