Considering that this is a hot-button issue, don't you think we should have a debate about it? DLerner 20:34, 5 February 2008 (EST)
Can't they just use the same method that scared me away from sex? My high school showed STD videos.. like the worst stages of getting one. -^_^- Fuzzy 20:42, 5 February 2008 (EST)
- This doesn't seem very conservative. It's all about how ineffective abstinance education is. Probably true, but irrelivant: Conservatives know that sex ed is about more than safe sex, it's about promoting moral values and Christian virtue. Comprehensive sex ed may keep the teens safe from pregnency and STI, but at the expense of turning them away from God, so we need to give our full support to abstinance. I urge a rewrite to strip all the pro-sex and anti-abstinance parts - which leaves three paragraphs. NewCrusader 18:12, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
- Abstinence only education doesn't work because of the forbidden fruit effect (for an example, see Prohibition). Teens just don't listen, h*** I'm only seventeen and I understand that. Abstinence only, like Communism, requires that human nature change completely and abruptly and that is impossible. Comprehensive Sex Education gives teens information that can actually be useful such as contraceptives, STDs, STD prevention. It also teaches that abstinence is also okay and someone's choice. But it isn't taught exclusively and used as a crutch to misinform teenagers.JudgeKing 13:37, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
- Your point? It doesn't matter if comprehensive education can be shown to prevent every single STI and case of accidential pregnency - it's still a moral poison that Christians should be obliged to oppose. Abstinance until marriage and fidelity within is the standard, the only god-endorsed expression of sexuality, and the purpose for which it was created. So none of these scientific studies or the exchanges of statistics matter in the slightest. NewCrusader 19:24, 3 November 2008 (EST)
Where did this article go?
Why were huge (refereneced) chunks of this article deleted without explanation? HelpJazz 23:36, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
- By me, in the hope that the sudden shrinkage would prompt a rewrite to less liberal standards. Looks like it worked. NewCrusader 19:24, 3 November 2008 (EST)
It's awkward. Really, really awkward and horribly written. Changing it.
Apples & Oranges
Federal funding for abstinence only education across the country has increased during the decade, but still does not equal the amount of money the government gives to Planned Parenthood, a single organization, each year.
I don't believe that the figures in the two articles cited can be compared to each other. Planned Parenthood does various things - not all of their money is about sex ed or abortions, some is things like breast cancer ed (if I remember right) - plus most public schools get little federal funding anyway, so looking at Planned Parenthood's total income vs. federal gov't money spent on abstinence-only ed doesn't mean much of anything. We need more accurate/specific figures or we need to remove this sentence. --Hsmom 13:37, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
- Yes, they do a lot of breast cancer screening programs. We should look into getting non-murdering organisations to handle more of those - it would make it easier for us to starve Planned Parenthood of the government funds that keep it running if they didn't have such a noble-seeming cause with which to demand tax funding - and I am sure some of the cancer-screening grants find their way into pro-abortion lobbying. NewCrusader 19:24, 3 November 2008 (EST)
Sex is beautiful
Making kids think that sex is some sort of evil, dirty thing is wrong. And there are always going to be those who think, "Oh, we're going to sin and have sex anyway, and since condoms don't even really work, let's just do it without one!" There will always be teens who's view differ but their education may be impaired by your views. Thus the unintended side effect of more unwed pregnancies, STDs, etc. Then there's also the arguement that "abstinence until marriage" promotes people hastily getting married to find they are stuck in a union which they regret getting into, because they'd mixed up their concepts of "lust" and "love" amidst the social pressure and their teen desires.