Talk:Sexual orientation theory

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I will protect this article if any more changes are made without prior discussion, which push the liberal POV.

Any suggestion that the incidence of homosexuality is higher than 1 in 50, even in industrial, liberal-dominated countries, needs to be documented. --Ed Poor Talk 13:58, 11 July 2007 (EDT)

Would it not be a better argument to say that ANY specific enumeration needs to be documented? Where does this one in fifty benchmark come from? Sysop or not, you put it in, it should be cited. PFoster 15:09, 11 July 2007 (EDT)

I *did* provide a source for my enumeration, but Ed Poor didn't like it (basis in fact notwithstanding) and proceeded to block me for two hours and removed my edit and its source. *shrug*--Porthos 09:59, 12 July 2007 (EDT)
What fact? The entire basis is the speculation that people won't tell the truth to the survey taker ("fearing discrimination and stigma, many gay respondents are reluctant to tell a stranger (even anonymously) that they are homosexual").
Making a "reference to a reference" is not acceptable scholarship, so the 'parting shot' quoted below is of no use:
  • most research with probability samples suggests that at least 3-6% of the US adult male population is homosexual, with somewhat fewer females (Fay, Turner, Klassen, & Gagnon, 1989; Hatfield, 1989; Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, & Michaels, 1994; Lever & Kanouse, 1996; Rogers & Turner, 1991).
Now, if someone wants to dig into what Hatfield (1989) said, then that would be a reference.
We don't accept as "proof" some liberal saying, "That was proven already". That's like Korea demanding an apology for the Japanese Comfort Women incident, and hearing instead, "We already apologized."
Either tell the truth (and help us write articles), or be an admitted propagandist (and do it elsewhere). --Ed Poor Talk 17:21, 18 August 2007 (EDT)
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