Talk:Sodom

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This article is vastly opinionated.--Elamdri 03:04, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

Ok, who did this? Someone had gone through this and found every mention of the words 'abomination' 'sodom' 'sodomite' 'sodomite religion' and so on and linked all of them to the article on homosexuality. We dont need to be so childish in attempts to create association here - not to mention factually incorrect, as I am fairly sure that soddom did not turn homosexuality into a religion, and the story also suggests several other sins asside from homosexuality. I am going to try to clean this up, but its a real mess. - Suricou
It's an open encyclopedia. fix it then. RightWolf2 03:07, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
I feel that the changes are much more appropriate. They still advance the site's agenda without being blatantly hateful.--Elamdri 03:22, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
The Bible is not hate speech. I know the mass media and militant homosexual rights movement have intimidated most Believers into thinking so. I do tone things down and frame them properly, given time. RightWolf2 03:32, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
I have a rather long piece cued up. I'll post it in 5 minutes if I don't hear back on this. You can always revert it anyway.Crackertalk 03:38, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
I do not believe that the Bible is hate speech. However, I also do not trust the Bible to give non-biased depictions of events as it was written by men, divinely inspired they may be, but at the end of the day, still men.--Elamdri 03:47, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
I posted that. See if you like it, if not revert. Crackertalk 03:50, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
Very nice! I like--Elamdri 03:52, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
Needs some additions. Particularly the fact that God explicitly stated they were destroyed for sodomy. Sodomy is explicitly defined in other passages as homosexual behavior. :-) RightWolf2 03:59, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
Hmm? How can the text refer to or define 'sodomy' when this word has yet to be coined? It may refer to 'sodomites' but only with the meaning 'the occupents of the city of sodom.' And where are these explicit passages, as I have never heard mention of them. Besides, why does there have to be one reason God would destroy two cities? Homosexuality, other forms of sexual immorality, selfishness, idol-worship... what about 'all of the above'? - BornAgainBrit
Nice work there RW2!Crackertalk 12:41, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

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"wikification?

At some point we're going to have to wikify this (as well as other articles on Conservapedia). By this I mean the process of adding the [[links]] that will enable browsers to skip through all of Conservapedia's othe articles. One of the things I liked about wikipedia was the ability of going from link to link to link, meandering through the articles. Something should ought to be set-up, a template perhaps(?), to alert editors that articles need to be linked. Crackertalk 14:08, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

why god smote the sodomites

ezekiel 16:49 claims it was because, from KJV, "Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy."

plagariasm

This article needs to be fixed. Compare this article with: http://www.mcfarland.co.uk/andrew/testimony_articles/2004-01-01 Conservative 13:21, 28 July 2007 (EDT)

VERY BISASED

I realise Conservapdedia is biased but this is too much. It depicts the Bible as if it is full of hate speech. This article would only attract readers who are extremely conservative and we wouldn't want them editing conservapedia(for citation rasons).

Entire article needs reworking

This article is basically presented as a Sunday school lesson or sermon, with some errors, and has virtually no references, as it almost all was copied verbatim from another site, which does allow it with attribution, but overall it hardly fits a encyclopedic format. However, the Bible does best evidence that "know" in v. 5 refers to sexual knowing, as its use v. 8 as well as in the parallel story (Jdg. 19:25: "they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning") and Jude 1:7 testifies to. The duplicity of pro homosexual polemicists who contend for the inhospitality interpretation is manifest in their striving elsewhere to impose a sexual meaning upon words which likewise depend upon context for such, ("clave" in Ruth and Namomui, "lovingkindness" in Daniel and Asphenez, etc.) when it would favor their unrighteous cause. There is no doubt that if "know" here could be used in a sense favorable to homoeroticism, like friendly guests expressing a desire to know a male host that night, that they would favor it. While homosexual relations in Gn. 19, are forced here, this is what homosexual apologists are often seen doing to the Bible. Here, it is the type of relations that make Sodom so notable, “The paradigmatic instance of such aberrant behavior is found in the demand of the men of Sodom to “know” the men visiting Lot, the nephew of Abraham, thus lending their name to the practice of “sodomy” (homosexuality) Jewish Ethics and Halakhah For Our Time (2002)Daniel1212 11:57, 29 May 2009 (EDT)

I did a major rewrite today, and hope to go back over it later.Daniel1212 23:39, 29 May 2009 (EDT)
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