Talk:Sweden

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Why did you erase the information from MissisppiMud?

'Sweden is highly socialistic, and poorer than Mississippi. The suicide rate is extremely high. The citizens of Sweden must pay most of their income to the government.'

I think they are worth knowing.--Sherman 09:05, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

No references to the poorer than Mississippi part. I don't think it's true. The same goes for the part about the suicide rate. Even though Sweden is far mote socialistic than the US there has been a change of direction in Swedish politics lately to a more rightwing government. /What

Suicide rates per 100 000 by country, year and sex Year Male Female 01 18.9 8.1 (Sweden) 01 17.6 4.1 (US)

According to the WHO

Although it is true that Sweden has some of the highest suicide rates in the world however Sweden is one of the richest country’s in the world.--Fg 16:43, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

As you claim to be a trustworthy encyclopedia, you should at least have the right articles on right pages. If nobody has noticed, this article about Sweden is in fact the same article than that one of Finland and thus tells about Finland. The map showing the location of Sweden, the flag and the coat of arms are the only things that are correct. All the other information is about Finland and I can say I know this, because I am Finn and I have lived all my life in Finland. Even the word "Suomi" that you claim to be the Swedish name for Sweden is in fact the Finnish name for Finland. Sweden is "Sverige" in Swedish and Swedish certainly is not a "swedo-ugric language" because there is no such thing as "swedo-ugric language". Swedish is a scandinavic language which are germanic languages and thus quite closely related to English. As long as you have this kind of huge disinformation on conservapedia, I would not much trust on your other articles either, not that I would much trust them anyway.

I did notice. The change was done by a vandal, and has since been corrected. Karajou 08:32, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

Contents

Writing style

This article   could use a very thorough re-write from an expert. Palmd001 20:12, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

Too much opinion and editorializing

I agree that this article is poorly written, but it appears to contain grammatical and syntactical errors related to English not being the writer's native language.

If this site is going to be taken seriously, it cannot show such obvious bias, opinion and editorializing. If the articles just stick to facts, the people who use this site can draw their own conclusions. This article can discuss the state of religion and the general position of Swedes on social issues without commenting that these things are somehow "bad." The conservative reader can draw this conclusion on his or her own without being told this is how he or she is supposed to think. --Vonratt 16:09, 19 March 2007 (EDT)

"however, most of the population have been taught in the state-administered schools that socialism is a superior economic system." Removed this sentence. It's just not true. Even if Sweden is a country where socialism is strong, this is not something thougth in school. Education in Sweden may be liberal, but it is not that biased. Christianity, for example, is still a part of the eduction, together with the other major religions of the world. Socialism is also taught, together with the other political systems. --What

true but Sweden follows a more moderate version of socialism called the social democracy which seeks to reform capitalism rather than destroy or abolish it.--Fg 16:40, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

Sweden IS not a democracy

"What", just tell me: Are you living in Sweden? I'm living in Sweden and I'm studying in a swedish school 5 days/week, I know what I'm talking about. The trade unions would'nt "possibly" strike, they would SURELY strike, because they are idiots and they are going to burn in hell forever! How can you call a country were the trade union rules over everything, a democracy?! /JohnG

I wrote nothing about trade unions and nothing about democracy. I simply didn't delete it, someone else wrote it. If you have reliable sources to back your claims with, then edit the article. What 08:29, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

while Sweden really is a social democracy.--Fg 12:46, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

We need an article on Democracy which would tell our readers what a social democracy is; and whether the United States is a "democracy".
Is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea a democracy? Is a regime which is "democratically elected" a democracy? Does that have any bearing on whether the people have the right to alter or abolish it? --Ed Poor 12:49, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

A social democracy is a economic and political system which is a moderate form of socialism which aims to reform capitalism in order to remove its perceived injustices and often has a democratic government.

In general, most modern social democrats support:

--Fg 16:20, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

Readability

Eugh. This article reads like a fifth grade project, with short sentences in need of expansion. Even if this article was written by somebody with ESL (as in a Swede who speaks English second), there would be more expansion on many of the points. This article is not academic in any way, shape or form. I re-wrote politics to bring the readability up, but it needs a lot of work overall. "Sweden has high taxes. Swedes pay about 30% in taxes, and 20-25% more if they make over..." --TrueGrit 23:40, 4 May 2007 (EDT)

My edit

Made two changes as of now --Sachaztan 19:43, 31 July 2007 (EDT)

  • Removed the text saying that Sweden is a big country in western Europe. Who wrote that? Could that person please explain what he meant with that? Both the population and the land size are small compared to nearly all other western European countries. One thing that Sweden do is, is a country of major influence worldwide, but finding a source explicitly saying that would be hard to come by.
In terms of land size, Sweden is actually a large western European country. At 450 000 square kilometers, Sweden is larger than Germany (350 000) and Poland (310 000) and smaller than France (550 000) and Spain (500 000). According to list on Wikipedia, Sweden is the 55th largest country/outlying territory in the world. --Avfall 14:09, 12 October 2007 (EDT)
  • Added information to the history section. Sources for my claims are the two new at the bottom.

New changes --Sachaztan 19:43, 31 July 2007 (EDT)

  • Forgot to add signature in last Talk page edit
  • Fixed the currency
  • Took away a highly biased, non confirmable part of the politics area. The reasons for the outcome of the recent election is very complicated and using a party's website as a source is not acceptable in this context. The outcome can also simply be a result of Swedish voting habits that resembles a cycle. First Social Democrats will have the power for a long time, then the people will get fed up and vote for Moderats which will have power for a short time. Then the people get fed up with them and the cycle repeats itself.

New changes --Sachaztan 20:05, 31 July 2007 (EDT)

  • Added Culture section. One source has been provided, but it is in need of more sources.

Christianity section clean up

Edited the Christianity section. If there is a need for an abortion section, there should be a separate abortion section. Abortion issues and topics should not be conglomerated with Christianity. The Ake Green case reference has no business in an article about an entire nation. The case could perhaps be a reference in a section entitled "Recent Swedish Court cases". It should certainly not be in the Christianity section. --Knullmaskin 15:35, 19 July 2009 (EDT)

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