Talk:The Pentagon

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Have no place in this article about the building, The Pentagon. Abbie Hoffman has exactly zero to do with the building, its reason for being, its facts and figures. --~ Sysop-TerryK MyTalk--Reginod 10:26, 11 April 2007 (EDT) 17:57, 6 April 2007 (EDT)

I’m seriously confused by this statement. I wrote and added a paragraph about one of the largest protests of the Vietnam War which was targeted at the Pentagon. Why does this not belong in an article about the Pentagon? This is a historical event, well documented, that received much publicity at the time it occurred—it occurred at the Pentagon and was targeted at the Pentagon. Saying this protest has nothing to do with the Pentagon is like saying the fact that the 9/11 attacks partially targeted the Pentagon has nothing to do with the Pentagon. I realy can’t see a legitimate distinction between the two events (both happened, both were major events, both targeted the Pentagon) why should we include one but not the other?--Reginod 18:06, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
I'm interested in the entire history of the Vietnam War - both the military aspects in the field, and the political machinations on the "home front". If you want to write about anti-US or pro-Vietcong protesters, go right ahead. Just consider: is The Pentagon the best place for that information? --Ed Poor 18:23, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
When their stated goal was the levitate the Pentagon and cast the demon(s) out, I think this is a fair place to put that information—it could also go in an article about protests against the Vietnam War, or about protests in Washington D.C., or the Yippies, or levitation, or lots of other places (and if I see an article I think would benefit from the information I may add it). But I put it here because I saw a woefully short article on the Pentagon, I knew about this event in its history and was trying to help grow the article into something more than a brief mention of the building's existence and the 9/11 attacks.--Reginod 23:31, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
  • Is there a page about the leaders of the Vietnam War protesters? Perhaps that would be a more appropriate place, and if there isn't a page, you can create one, or add a section about them on the Vietnam War page.....--~ Sysop-TerryK MyTalk 23:44, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
There is a page about the 9/11 attacks and yet the information about them appears on this page. Yes, the information I added to this page could go on another page as well, but why does that mean it doesn’t belong here? It is about a major historical event that happened at and was targeted at the Pentagon. Why does it not belong here?--Reginod 09:47, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

I’m probably going to add my section back to this article unless I hear a good reason not to in the next day or so. --Reginod 09:49, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

The information you deem important, is actually nothing but a side-note at best, and more appropriate in some article about the Viet Nam War, or Viet Nam war protests. I don't object to a short sentence, with perhaps a link to a longer treatment of the protests, but that is a more appropriate place for any detail. The protests didn't center on the Pentagon, or any one place, actually, but the 9/11 attacks did. --~ TK MyTalk 10:01, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
I’d be with you if I was talking about protests to the War in general, but I’m not. I am talking about a protest at the Pentagon, which had the stated goal of levitating the Pentagon (actually levitating the Pentagon, rotating it mid-air and turning it orange) and exorcizing the Pentagon. How do you understand that to not be centered on the Pentagon? I honestly do not understand what your position here is.
However, in the name of compromise, how would you find this as a shorter statement on the protest?
In some occult circles a pentagon is considered the best shape in which to entrap a demon, this fact, coupled with the belief that the actions of the Department of Defense, which is headquartered in the Pentagon, during the Vietnam War were so evil that they had to be demonically inspired, lead a group of approximately 50,000 protesters, lead by Abbie Hoffman, to attempt to exorcize and levitate the Pentagon on October 20th 1967. [1]
--Reginod 10:14, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
  • Maybe you should make page about the war protests, and include your information there? It would be a sizable task, Reginod. But in the over-all history of the place, Hoffman's antics are really just a side-show. Same for the Freemasonry symbols all over the White House and other government buildings, eh? If you think it absolutely necessary, as I said, please make a very short heading for it, and link to a more appropriate article, one that can do justice to your research, okay?--~ TK MyTalk 10:19, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
That seems reasonable enough. I will place a short sentence here and start a stub of an article on Vietnam War protests (unfortunately I know very little about the protests so it will be a fairly short start to an article).--Reginod 10:26, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
  • Perfect! I can give you some links to info if you think it would be a help. Just let me know. --~ TK MyTalk 10:28, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
Sure, send them my way—my e-mail is entered, so just use the contact me button--Reginod 10:30, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

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