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I'm sorry to bother you, but I couldn't resist being the first one to comment on your neat, cleaned up talk page. Have a good night.Богдан Talk 01:12, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks much, Bohdan! A clean page is refreshing, for a change. Thanks for your edits, which I've enjoyed. "San Francisco 49ers" in St. Louis??? I don't think so. :-) -Aschlafly 01:24, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

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Image Protection.....

Should I be checking with Ed Poor about this? I understand it was his idea, but I am having trouble answering people's questions, as I cannot find any information posted about the change. Does he need to give permission? Do editors contact him directly? You? Do I need to ask Ed, or you? Thanks! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 04:04, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

I don't understand this issue here, TK. Could you explain? Thanks and Godspeed.--Aschlafly 09:20, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
  • The issue is users asking me, a sysop, how they can upload a picture. Since I did not know anything about this happening, and no procedure has been given me for handling requests, I am left somewhat of an idiot. Someone told me Ed Poor had to approve, but I have not yet heard back from him. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 09:50, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

Uploads

I was one of the originators of this line of inquiry. I found I was unable to upload images and asked Ed poor if I could have that privilege reinstated. So far no answer from him, but lots of chatter from other people. Hannibal ad portas 10:12, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

Hannibal, thanks for your request. We've created an orderly and efficient way to handle such requests here: Conservapedia:Image_upload_requests. Please make use of that we'll respond quickly. Thanks for your contributions here.--Aschlafly 14:39, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
I was told to protect images, but now with this new rule, is it not neccessary?Богдан Talk 14:52, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
Yes, because images are still editable after they've been uploaded... (I think) JustineA talk 14:59, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
Protection is still valuable and helpful. Thanks for your efforts, Justine!--Aschlafly 15:07, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

Sysop Contest

Thank you for your comments and considering my request to be a Sysop. I have responded on my nomination page. One of my concerns, whether or not I am given this privilege, is in the overall presentation of Conservapedia. In doing a search on the internet last week, I saw that the Conservapedia entry for atheist was listed (albeit, further down). The primary line that was displayed was that George Bush believes that atheists should not be U.S. citizens... And this was displayed on the search engines as the representation of Conservapedia! Needless to say I have taken care of that issue, but I hope you are surrounding yourself with a team who will help to ensure that similar circumstances become less common as time progresses. Learn together 11:40, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Yes, those acts of vandalism are declining over time. Thanks for fixing that one, and I look forward to reviewing your future edits!--Aschlafly 18:55, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
Thank you, I look forward to providing them. I've responded to your questions on my nomination page. I hope that extra information is helpful. Learn together 01:01, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Article Suggestion

I'm not sure if your page is the right place for this (and if it's not, my apologies; I'm new here), but I have an article suggestion for the main page. In my general neck of the woods, there's a high school whose administration has pulled a song from the graduation ceremony for fear it would violate the so-called separation of church/state, etc (the song is a version of the Lord's Prayer, in memory of a classmate who died last fall). What's really crazy is that they're not being allowed to sing the song despite the fact that the grad ceremony is being held inside a church! Here's the link: http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6590553 --JoeP 12:14, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Here's what I would say to the graduates: If they want to sing the song, sing it! The authorities cannot do a thing to you for wanting to get together and sing a particular song in a church, or anywhere else for that matter. Go ahead and sing it. Karajou 16:29, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Offer of assistance.

I've been editing at wikipedia, but have encountered intellectually dishonest opposition. You can view my contribution attempts on the talk pages under this same username at:[1][2]. I wish to remain anonymous, but you might conclude from my work there that I am an expert.

In the interest of full disclosure, although I am not currently interested in editing your evolution article, I definitely am an agnostic or atheist by many definitions of those terms and am an evolutionist. I've attended ID and creationist conferences, with the intent of being challenged, and to assist my Christian friends in not getting led down bunny trails. However, I have no problem with letting all sides have their say. I don't think conservatives necessarily take a position on this. I am more in the Goldwater, Milton Friedman mold.

BTW, I have not received my confirmatory email yet, is the system working? Also, Global warming is currently protected, although the level of vandalism seemed low by wikipedia standards.--Africangenesis 21:09, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Africangenesis, you're more than welcome here. We don't treat people in the unfair way that Wikipedia does, and we don't censor intelligent discussion. That said, conservatives are overwhelmingly skeptical of evolution. If you believe in evolution, then the odds are over 90% that you oppose classroom prayer and thereby support the direction of our public schools in America (and many schools worldwide). There odds are also high that you consider yourself "pro-choice" on abortion, and that you support gun control. You are welcome to all those views, but they are not mainstream conservative opinions.
Regardless, please stick around and contribute. Welcome and Godspeed!--Aschlafly 23:02, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
I guess I beat the odds on some of these. Yes, I do oppose prayer led by employees of the state, but then I also believe in separation of state and school and have unschooled three. There would not be any prayer in the school issue or creation science in the school issue, if the state was not in the education business. Yes, I am pro-choice, in the sense that I believe there is no compelling state interest in regulating abortion, just as you didn't see the tribes of Israel coming together over domestic violence, and even domestic murders, they weren't a threat to the security of the nations. But I also oppose Roe v. Wade as bad law, I want the right to a jury trial back and for that we need strict constructionist judges, although the ones we have gotten so far seem more interested in executive power than the bill of rights. I am opposed to gun control. I don't believe social conservatives are the only kind, they were preceded by limited government conservatives that didn't believe in using government to solve social problems. Thanx for the welcome. --Africangenesis 02:59, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
"Yes, I do oppose prayer led by employees of the state," you wrote. But if you believe in evolution, then I bet you oppose prayer in the classroom led by anyone, including non-employees of the state. I bet you oppose such prayer led by a student after the teacher has been excused. I bet you oppose such prayer led by a volunteer parent. I bet you oppose prayer by a student speaking at graduation, or in a locker-room huddle before a big game. Belief in evolution is really just a dignified way for many to censor expressions of faith (public prayer) in the classroom, I'm afraid. Am I wrong?--Aschlafly 20:17, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
I don't go out of my way to oppose it, it is not one of my issues. There is prayer and journaling going on in my home every day, and currently there is some fasting. As to prayer in a state classroom, it probably shouldn't take place during official class time, or during official assemblies. I've no problems with a church meeting in the schools after hours like any community organization, or with voluntary religious student organizations. I went to school when there was teacher led prayer, and remember how I was singled out as different because I wasn't allowed to say "for thine is the kingdom, the power and glory, for ever and ever", since I was RC at the time. I've no problem with the 10 commandments in courthouses, or the language on coins. I do object to the pledge of allegiance being led by state employees in schools, because I think it is a serious commitment, and is exploitive of children who are too young to be making such a decision. It is also disrespectful of the children, because if they have made the commitment once, that should be enough, they shouldn't be repeating it like a meaningless mantra. My family has belonged to fundamentalist churches, that wouldn't fly the american flag, because you can't serve two masters. There is a lot of ways of looking at these issues. I think it is dangerous to ask the state to get involved in your religion or your education, or licensing doctors or marriages. The liberals were lobbying for the federal government to get involved in education for decades while the conservatives resisted, preferring a limited federal government and local control. Finally they won and the "education" president got "No child left behind" passed. Now the liberals complain about what the republicans are doing to education. It was very undemocratic of them to think they would never lose an election. Those who want religion in state schools, should realize that the might lose an election, and end up getting something they didn't bargain for.--Africangenesis 22:51, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
Virtually every single person who believes in evolution also opposes classroom prayer. You've covered a lot of ground in your reply, but the bottom line is that you are against allowing the students to say a prayer in their classroom during official class time.
This illustrates how belief in the theory of evolution really means this: censorship of prayer or expressions of faith in academic situations. Belief in evolution is not simply a libertarian "this is what I believe." It also represents a totalitarian "this is what I prohibit others from saying." In many cases, the students and their families want to say a prayer in the classroom. Why do you think you should censor them? Logically, it makes no sense.--Aschlafly 23:20, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
I think you are overgeneralizing. I've no problem with prayer in the classroom, I even sent one daughter to an episcopal school before we started unschooling. I do have problems with any kind of prayer in a state classroom imposed upon other students, and that is quite different, and I don't see why any Christian would want it. I also think that schools miss out on a lot of our culture by not teaching the Bible in school, but would you might not like how the bible would be taught in a public school, you might rather that the state stayed out of this. But then I oppose state involvement in education, so these issues about prayer, creation science and evolution in the schools are really non-issues to me, other than to arouse a sad amusement at the totally unnecessary fuss and at the tangled mess the courts find themselves in.--Africangenesis 23:42, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
No "overgeneralizing". The issue couldn't be simpler. At the beginning of public school biology class, the students want to recite the Lord's Prayer together, every day. OK with you? If you believe in evolution, then I can't imagine your allowing this, even though a true libertarian position would be to allow it.--Aschlafly 23:49, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
If all the kids wanted to do it, and there wasn't any peer pressure to participate, I'd probably be OK with it. It is difficult to imagine a situation that would be that comfortable though. I wouldn't tie it to an opinion about evolution though, I think I'd feel the same way about state involvement in religion if I were a christian. Even now I don't have problems with valedictory speeches by students being free to include Christian professions of faith. I oppose singling out Christain's for such discrimination. I don't mind students pushing for the "right" to pray during biology class, it may hasten the end of public education. As an intellectual position, though I don't think the courts will come down on their side, nor should they. They should rule government schools unconstitutional.--Africangenesis 00:11, 2 June 2007 (EDT)
Nothing awkward about it at all. I start all my large classes with a prayer, and have done so without complaint for 5 years. Something is tugging at you to cause you to hesitate to allow this. I submit that the tug is similar towards the evolutionary belief system. I can tell you that the correlation between those who insist on censoring classroom prayer and those who believe in evolution is virtually 100%.--Aschlafly 00:21, 2 June 2007 (EDT)
I would not be surprised if that correlation held up quite well in the evolution->censoring classroom prayer direction. But in the other direction, I would suspect that many christians don't want government led prayer, and would support strong separation of church and state. I am at peace with humans as religious animals, it is the non-religious that is abnormal.--Africangenesis 00:28, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

  • As the template on Global Warming says, Africangenesis, just contact me on my talk page, and I shall be happy for your help in re-writing the entire article! Thanks in advance, your assistance will be appreciated. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 06:05, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
I've gotten started with climate model. Thanx for the welcome. As you can see, the climate models are a rather weak, dare I say, nearly non-existant basis for the attribution of the warming to GHGs, vs solar, vs reduction in aerosol pollution vs internal climate modes. I will probably be resting for several hours, so there is not an immediate need to unprotect Global warming. I hope to bring some of the model issues over and document some of the case for solar. I look forward to cooperating with you in a more open climate. I don't need to OWN, and am open to other viewpoints and evidence. --regards, --Africangenesis 06:54, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Who could ask for more? I look forward to exchanging ideas with you! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 07:22, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Thanks

Thanks Andy. I appreciate the promotion to Sysop, your support and posting some of my article recommendations to the Main Page. Thanks for creating this site and for your leadership. Crocoite Talk 00:10, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Thank you, Crocoite, for all you've done. I look forward to your many edits and insights in the future! Lord bless you for your diligence and support.--Aschlafly 00:13, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
I have sent you two personal emails which I hope will provide further insight on the Main Page articles and Vandalism on Conservapedia. Crocoite Talk 02:09, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Question

I have no idea what this [3] is, do you? I thought I would bring it to your attention, as it seems quite odd. Should I delete it?Богдан Talk 00:54, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Seems the user has. I have protected it, blocked the user, requesting an email explanation of what he was doing. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 06:10, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Delete account

How do I delete my account? There seems to be no facility for this in preferences. Hannibal ad portas 01:00, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Don't know. But the Wiki software is open-source, so you can check this is out as easily as we can, if it is important to you. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 01:18, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
User accounts, once created, cannot be removed. Right to vanish We will delete your user and user talk subpages upon request. Crocoite Talk 01:29, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
Yes please do that. Thanks for your assistance. I just wish to go. Hannibal ad portas 01:36, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
Done Crocoite Talk 01:42, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
Actually, accounts can be deleted, via direct interaction with the "user" table of the MySQL database.
Folks, do the messages of "Hannibal at our Gates!!!" above qualify as a Parthian shot? We've been overdue for another one of those! Godspeed to you, Hannibal, and hope you can return some time.--Aschlafly 12:13, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
No, I don't think they do... He never criticised Conservapedia in the above messages... GofG ||| Talk 16:18, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
I think the above messages do qualify as a Parthian shot. They imply a parting criticism, just as storming out of a restaurant in the middle of a meal implies a parting criticism. Perhaps I need to add an essay on the various forms and styles of the Parthian shots we've received here. The last one before this began with the preface, "this is not a Parthian shot, but ..."--Aschlafly 16:22, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
I am sad to see him go. He was a good editor.Богдан Talk 16:24, 1 June 2007 (EDT)


There is a difference between saying "I am leaving." and "I am leaving. This place has many problems, which are XYZ." The former, which is what Hannibal ad portas was doing, might be considered a Parthian Shot in a resteraunt, but not in a volunteer-only project. The latter, something like this, would be the latter, where the person actually criticises Conservapedia. Of course, that's my opinion, but as I am told, I argue too much :) So I'm going to drop it. GofG ||| Talk 16:27, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
This looks like a Parthian shot
Rob with a degree of respect. Go fix the article yourself. Use whatever personal bias you seem to have towards this whole thing. I give up on conservapedia. You don't want people like me here. You just want to have a personal playground. This whole project is sliding into the abyss of irrelevance. Hannibal ad portas 23:11, 31 May 2007 (EDT)[4]
You can see what's coming next - Conservapedia talk:Image upload requests - disappointment
I must admit I am disappointed by this turn of events. I will now re-reconsider my involvement with this project. I feel having this level of censorship and direct control to be upsetting. I will work out my future on C/P over the upcoming weekend. Hannibal ad portas 20:59, 30 May 2007 (EDT)[5]
Crocoite Talk 17:20, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
If you'll take two cents from a new guy: Parthian shot, most definitely. If someone wants to leave, they can just go. The only reason for announcing it, and making a big production out of wanting to have your account deleted, wanting to have everyone know you're leaving, is that you want everyone to know you're unhappy with Conservapedia. Kind of a passive-aggressive Parthian shot, I guess.--JoeP 20:09, 1 June 2007 (EDT) (and as a P.S.--probably the only way to avoid the Parthian shot from these people is to send them packing before they get the chance)

Thanks

Thanks for your kind note on my talk page! I'm glad I found this site. --Lorrie 21:48, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Article creation drive

I created something new on the main page: Conservapedia:Articles That Need To Created

Conservative 14:16, 2 June 2007 (EDT)conservative

Question

I don't know if your the one to ask, but do you want me to refer in articles to the "US" or to write out the full "United States".Богдан Talk 19:56, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

It doesn't matter. I'll make sure that "US", "U.S.", and "United States" all go to the same place. Thanks much.--Aschlafly 19:58, 2 June 2007 (EDT)
So there is no style preference?Богдан Talk 19:59, 2 June 2007 (EDT)
Well, I spell it out as "United States," as I think a real encyclopedia would.--Aschlafly 20:02, 2 June 2007 (EDT)
Thats actually what I thought also. Its what I will do too.Богдан Talk 20:03, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

False Information

I wanted to bring to your attention that there is false information on the main page. The Washington Post and New York Times used the same article from the associated press to cover the spelling bee story, and that article does say that he was home schooled. The Washington Post article can be found here[6], and the New York Post article can be found here[7].

REPLY: Please see the analysis below:

Home Schooling? How Do You Spell That? Media virtually ignore national spelling bee winner’s academic pedigree.

By Robert Knight Culture and Media Institute June 1, 2007

When California homeschooler Evan O’Dorney, 13, won the National Spelling Bee on Thursday night, the nation’s paper of record reacted with a yawn.

Instead of focusing on the winner, The New York Times ran a story about an immigrant from India who lost in the second round of the competition. That boy, Kunal Sah, 12, who is living in Utah, had hoped a victory would secure his family’s legal status in the United States. Thus, the Times managed to use the National Spelling Bee as one more forum for pushing the plight of immigrants.

Not until the middle of the story did The Times get around to recognizing the winner, noting only his name and hometown and the fact that the AP reported his victory.

The Washington Post’s Elissa Silverman, meanwhile, in her article “The Sweet Spell of Success,” ignored completely the fact that Evan is homeschooled, and chalked up his win to tuna sandwiches from Subway. That’s right. The subheadline reads: “Fueled by Tuna Sandwiches, California Teen Tops 300 students.”

Likewise, USA Today ran an Associated Press story that mentioned only that Evan liked to eat fish before competing. Nothing was said about his home schooling. ...

Arnold

Andy, thank God you popped up. I tried to revert the IW vandalism but as most of it was just new pages there was nothing I could do. There didn't seem to be any other sysops around for the longest time. MadMin 12:57, 3 June 2007 (EDT)


Madmin, thanks. I undid all the vandalism in just a few clicks of the mouse. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 13:16, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
I have checked through the edits that were committed during the IW attack and noticed there were some other users involved, whom you also blocked and reverted their edits, but the Smallpox contribution appears to be quite good despite the other questionable edits may by IWonder. (IW and IWonder are probably the same) Now I may have missed something which you have spotted but perhaps you could have another look at the text. It may mean that CP gets something positive out of it. I checked WP and it does not appear to be a rip-off from there. MadMin 15:34, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
IWonder lacks credibility and I have no confidence in his smallpox entry, so I am standing by my reversion of it.--Aschlafly 16:05, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
Fair enough, I respect your reasons. MadMin 16:30, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

Mel Gibson

I was disappointed to read your comments in regard to my Mel Gibson edits. While good people can disagree, the form of your removal was perplexing. Why would you choose public ridicule for one of your most prolific editors? Learn together 20:11, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

I wouldn't describe my diplomatic comments as "public ridicule." What makes you use that term to describe my posting of your own edits???--Aschlafly 20:25, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
I think it was the use of the word bizarre that went along with it. ;-) That's usually used in regard to someone who is an antagonist, not an ally. I have been pleased with the overall work I have produced for your vision, and I certainly hope that you are as well. Learn together 20:43, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

Note to you

Just so you know among the article creation drive is the article Culture war. I thought you might be interested in this one. Conservative 20:57, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

G-d

I wasn't aware of the Jewish terminology for God, but an explanation seems like an appropriate edit for the Jewish article. Crocoite Talk 01:14, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

I actually made a stub on that a couple of months ago: G-d DanH 14:19, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Thanks Dan. The stub and reference are especially helpful. This site is educational! Crocoite Talk 16:27, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Sysop Nomination

Thanks for the response! DeborahB. 15:28, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Parthian shot

Here's the latest Parthian shot [8] Crocoite Talk 20:49, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

It's already gone. I'd like to collect a list of Parthian shots!--Aschlafly 20:52, 4 June 2007 (EDT)


Thank you

Thank you too, Andy. It is a pleasure to work with you and your project.

I know too that you like art. I have also enjoyed the painting that you have uploaded.

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 23:28, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Just noticed this

Most of the edits for the genetics articles actually fall under Molecular Biology, Biochemistry or Molecular Genetics. There has been quite the separation of the sciences since the eighties about molecular signaling and formation systems in biological disciplines. When the science is dealing with molecular signaling, such as DNA, RNA (all three forms) and protein translation it falls under Molecular Biology. If it is dealing with the chemical properties and metabolism it falls under Biochemistry. If it is dealing with alleles and genes in the since of inheritance and karyotypes it is Molecular Genetics. Finally if it is dealing with phenotypes it is plain Genetics. I would point out that students in many high school biology classes and AP biology classes learn a great deal about these 4 sciences (and their differences) before heading on to college. Biological sciences that are now taught in the classroom are far more advance than when you and I were in school.--TimS 14:04, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Excellent point. Thank you and please feel free to improve the categories in the recent edits by anyone here, including myself.--Aschlafly 14:13, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Problem

I was unable to get to this site for a while earlier Was I the only one? bd Talk 22:56, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Heavy usage and completion of a backup were the cause of the brief outage. Thanks for your patience.--Aschlafly 23:16, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
One more question, sorry to bother you. If a citation no longer works because the, say newspaper or journal, no longer has it available what should be done? bd Talk 01:01, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
I guess the citation should be replaced with another working cite.--Aschlafly 01:41, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
What is the procedure for having a citation that requires some sort of membership? Should these not be used? And am I asking these questions in the right place? bd Talk 01:48, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
Bohdan, you're in charge now! You decide as a fellow Sysop. :-) Thanks.--Aschlafly 01:53, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

I think NItramNos vandalized the menstruation (evolutionary based perspective) page but just want to check before I block him. --BethanyS 13:27, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Just my £0.01 (revised for exchange rate), but that doesn't seem evolutionarily based at all, but merely on biology (although based on his later edits, you might want to have words with him). He doesn't seem like a vandal, just a person with their own POV. --wikinterpreter woo!
Bethany, this is your call but if there is doubt then either a warning or short block would be best. Thanks.--Aschlafly 15:15, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

This particular edit seems iffy. http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Icons_of_Evolution&diff=191029&oldid=100497 DanH 15:17, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

That's what I was referring to, but a cursory inspection of the rest seem OK. --wikinterpreter woo!

Thad Cochran

Go check the Wikipedia page, another editor has put the information back up. --Ĥøĵĭmåçħôńğtalk 01:01, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for pointing that out, Hoji. If you're still a supporter of Wikipedia now, then you're a tougher person than I! After the second smear, I'd say "no thanks" and disassociate myself from that smear factory.--Aschlafly 01:47, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
I think one obscure smear in over 1.8 million is a decent track record, given it's overall thoroughness. By the way, I'm almost finished with an awesome entry on the Eastern Front of World War II, and I'll be excited to see what you think of it! --Ĥøĵĭmåçħôńğtalk 21:01, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
I look forward to seeing your new entry, Hoji! That's a fascinating topic.--Aschlafly 22:38, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Building web traffic - most popular searches

I think in order to build web traffic that the search engines are going to be key. Therefore, it makes sense to create articles which have the most search engine queries as long as they are serious subjects and not merely "pop topics" (Britney Spears).

Here are some tools that will be helpful:

Most popular searches: http://www.portalmix.com/english/searched.htm

What people search for: http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=2156041

Google Keyword Tool: https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal


Using the Google Keyword Tool above I was able to add 10 articles that need to be created to the articles that need to be created list that were related to the search engine keyword "Conservative".

Conservative 18:46, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

possible vandalism alert

I could not report vandalism on the vandal reporting page. The system gave me a message saying I was spamming.

I think this edit from User:Sevenstring which employed uncited material may have been vandalism: http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Chappaquiddick&diff=191376&oldid=146176

Conservative 19:54, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

You're right, and the account of "Sevenstring" is blocked forever.--Aschlafly 20:20, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Spoke to a website design and internet hosting company regarding our website

I spoke to a website design and website web hosting company. The consultant said that the "main page" of Conservapedia has a "search engine tag" (I forgot the terminology he used) of something like "main page". The consultant said the main page should have a "search engine tag" of something like "Conservative" or "Republican" This way when someone does a search on the word "conservative" or "Republican" in a search engine our site may appear. Right now our main page has a very poor tag in terms of bringing us internet traffic.

The company I called hosts some big operations in my area like the local radio stations and the zoo. I will send you their contact info via a email. Conservative 20:52, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Probably should add a tag like "Christian" and some other relevant stuff too.--Elamdri 20:56, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

If you have some free time

I could use some advice. I just moved into my new apartment, and upon further inspection, I have found that many of the wall sockets in here don't have ground faults. I know there is a code in Illinois that says wall sockets need ground faults, but my roommate says that the grandfather clause exempts our place. I don't think that is true, and if it isn't I'd like to make my landlord send out his electrician to fix them.--Elamdri 20:54, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Generally speaking, in all 50 States, GFI's are required near water. That means plugs on walls near bathroom vanities and in the kitchen areas. Outside, of course they are required, along with waterproof covers, etc. Note that one GFI, wired in tandem with the rest of the kitchen plugs is ok. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 21:26, 6 June 2007 (EDT)


Plagiarism

I've noticed that a lot of the new articles that have been created contain information taken from public domain sources, however the original source is not cited in the article. For example, most of the U.S. Senate Glossary terms come from an online Senate glossary.

Since these are public domain sources, there is no copyright issue, but using text without citing the origin is still plagiarism, and is a violation of the 2nd Conservapedia Commandment. I am willing to go through and add sources for as many of the articles as I can, but I wanted to get clarification that this is the correct approach first. --Brian 17:58, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

The source for a public domain work should be cited whenever there may be some dispute about bias or validity of the source. In the example of government rules you cite above, there is no risk of bias and no doubt about validity, and thus there is no need to add the source at this point. Our time is better spent building more entries. Later we can always go back and add sources as needed.--Aschlafly 18:23, 7 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Andy is correct. Anything from a governmental site, is already "owned" by the People. It is the source quoting itself, so to speak. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 23:40, 7 June 2007 (EDT)


Please look at this

Please look at this: http://www.conservapedia.com/Theory_of_evolution#Social_Effects_of_the_Theory_of_Evolution

I would appreciate your support in this matter. Conservative 22:55, 7 June 2007 (EDT)


A few small questions…

Having seen some… shall we say, unfortunate incidents involving liberals on this site, I would like to know what your opinions are on a variety of issues, just so I don't accidently insult them.

  1. Which presidential candidate do you support?
  2. How old do you believe the Earth is?
  3. Do you believe in school prayer, that is, public prayer by the administration?
  4. Do you sympathize at all with environmentalism?
  5. What do you think the legal stance on homosexuality should be?
  6. Why do you oppose mandatory vaccination?
  7. What church denomination do you belong to?
  8. What is your opinion of evolution?

Thanks, --Moonbat 16:36, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

I could answer these on behalf of you if you like, Andy. I think you've been pretty clear on all of them except for #1 ;-). --Ĥøĵĭmåçħôńğtalk 17:21, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Tennessee Counties

There are almost 100 blank articles on tennessee counties. What should be done with these? Do you want them deleted? bd Talk 23:31, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

It was a project that Colin had started, I think. DanH 23:32, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Let's fill them in rather than delete them. Tennessee is an important state!--Aschlafly 23:33, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

RobS

Andy, I am back into now. My email account was hacked yesterday. Please contact me. RobS 10:28, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

Law articles

Hi Mr Schlafly - I'm a new CP'er here, and I've been starting some law-related articles. See discovery for example. I'd love your help on them, and I hope I can help. I understand you want a lot of new articles, so that's what I'm here for.-Phoenix 16:40, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

Thank you for your note on my page! I appreciate it. I tried to log in last night to write some articles, but it seemed like every article I edited was protected. What happened? Am I in trouble?-Phoenix 12:35, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
No, you didn't do anything wrong. Editing was suspended overnight and all pages, not just law pages, were locked to new editors such as yourself. You can edit again now. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 12:46, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

Oh, okay. I hope you'll eventually give me 24/7 privileges, and I'll work hard to convince you I deserve the privilege..-Phoenix 16:14, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

Liberals mocked Jesus - in person?

What's the deal with that? The Pharisees and Sadducees were extremely conservative. So were the Romans - nationalists if you ever saw one. Is this -- *gasp* -- a conservative falsehood, or an example of conservative deceit? --HardDisc 19:49, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

Please learn the difference between conservative and liberal. Thanks.--Aschlafly 15:22, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

How can modern liberals mock Jesus to his face? You did not answer HardDisc's question. --Rube 15:26, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

No one said that modern liberals mocked Jesus to his face except HardDisc. Bohdan 15:28, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Well, all I have seen is what is above. HardDisc is referring to the Pharisees, Sadducees, and Romans. Aschlfly's response is to this site's entires for the terms "conservative" and "liberal," and both of them are defined in modern terms. --Rube 15:31, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

HardDisc said that the Pharisees and Sadducees were extremely conservative. He needs to read our entries first before making such an absurd claim.--Aschlafly 15:42, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

I read the entry on conservatives. How can Bibical peoples be considered conservative if the notion (as indicated by the entry) did not exist until the nineteenth century? --Rube 15:47, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

In the article conservative, it lists this definition In addition, Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary has the following definition of conservative: "tending or disposed to maintain existing views, conditions, or institutions : TRADITIONAL". Didn't the Pharisees and Sadducees represent the status quo in the time of Jesus? Jesus was new on the scene, a revolutionary. --Colest 16:08, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
No, Jewish culture wasn't that simple; the Sadducees denied the authority of the Oral Law and pledged allegiance to Rome, which would make them the liberals of the piece; the Pharisees were still under Torah and the Oral law, and represented the mainstream majority, making them the conservatives; and then there were the Zealots, ultra nationalists ready to fight to the death against Rome. At the time of Jesus, there were many new sects and off-shoots of Judaism springing up, which is one of the reasons perhaps that He wasn't heard by the mainstream - they erroneously placed Him with the other new sects. He wasn't seen as a revolutionary - the Zealots were. Jesus' message to the Jews was also one of maintaining the status quo in many ways - to obey the Law, from which "not one jot nor tittle" was to be removed. File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 16:22, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
Very interesting, Fox. Thank you. I might add that there is no evidence of the Pharisees or Sadducees mocking Jesus, which was the premise of the complaint by HardDisc above.--Aschlafly 18:20, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
Actually, Jesus was the liberal back then, sorry. Even today, many of the things he did are in some opposition to what ultraconservatives would have you do. --HolographicMedia 14:56, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
Did anyone read this? And I suggest you all read this article. --HolographicMedia 16:22, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
HolographicMedia, please do not push your atheist agenda here. This is a conservative website, not a place for liberals to further their agenda. SimonA 09:03, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Help, I've been blocked!

I'm writing under my brother's username (Tash) because someone has blocked my username (Rexislexis). Apparently I got blocked because I share the same IP as my brother Tash, who TK mistakenly thought had been vandalizing the "goat" page (he was really just completely revamping it).

A sysop unblocked my brother's user, but for some reason my username is still blocked, even though I had nothing to do with the original incident.

If someone could unblock me, I certainly would appreciate it. Thanks. -Rexislexis

Here are my contributions to Conservapedia: [9]


I can't find any record of your name being blocked... what block number comes up when you try to log in under Rexislexis? DanH 00:38, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

I believe I heard somewhere that editing is turned off overnight unless you are given special permission. That may be why, or it may be
  • Editing is turned off overnight, except for Sysops and those with special rights. Can you login, and just can't edit? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 00:44, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
Does this mean that the new users cant make any contributions?bd Talk 00:47, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

It means that no one can register or edit overnight, so far as I know.--Sysop-TK /MyTalk 00:48, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

Ok, maybe that's it... I can log in, but can't edit (it says "This page has been locked to prevent editing"). For some reason my brother Tash can edit, but I can't (he's up for sysop nomination, so maybe he is ranked higher than me).... His incident had me a little paranoid I suppose...Sorry for the false alarm.... - Rexislexis
Look at the promotion log [10], Tash is allowed to edit. That must be the reason. bd Talk 00:52, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
Rexislexis, please contribute further and then you'll be promoted to 24x7 edit powers. Thanks and Godspeed.--Aschlafly 11:34, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

TK is blocking for blatently ideological reasons! His conduct in this matter are undefensible!

Sysop Bohdan told me about TK blocking someone and I know TK did this for purely ideological reasons which is contrary to Conservapedia policy. I unblocked User:tomstpete. Here is what I wrote about Mormonism: "The United Methodist Church has stated that the Mormon faith has "some radically differing doctrine on such matters of belief as the nature and being of God; the nature, origin, and purpose of Jesus Christ; and the nature and way of salvation."[4] The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod goes further, stating that it, "together with the vast majority of Christian denominations in the United States, does not regard the Mormon church as a Christian church."[5], while the Southern Baptist Convention states that the Mormon religion is "not consistent with biblical Christianity."[6] Beliefnet.com details a number of differences between the Mormon faith and traditional Christianity.[7]" Now here is what User:Tomstpete wrote on my userpage: "Hello, I read some of your material on Mormonism and I liked it. I'm interested in working with you and contributing similar material.Tomstpete" Now please tell TK to stop blocking people for purely ideological reasons. I also don't appreciate TK telling LostCaesar that there is a zero chance of him becoming a Sysop. I invited LostCaesar here and I don't appreciate him being rude to my guest especially when his statements to him are untrue which TK admitted. [11] Conservative 15:30, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

I think TK might have blocked him mistaking him for another user. I know we had a little misunderstanding about who made comments where last night. You should ask him. bd Talk 15:32, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
This discussion should really be on the Template talk:Christianity page. RobS 15:36, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
Thank you for telling me about this discussion page, I didn't think it even existed which was irritating to me. However, I don't want those who agree that Mormonism is not part of Christianity blocked for ideological reasons and I believe that TK has been rude to me as I indicated on his talk page. The sooner Andy intervenes the better. Conservative 16:00, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

I don't know about this whole conflict, but I can say that since I've been here, TK has been extremely kind to me.-Phoenix 16:14, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Conservative, you have been replied to on my talk page. What is indefensible is constantly airing disputes among Sysops on Andy's talk page, instead of privately, by email, or at the very least on the subject matters talk page. If I blocked people because of ideological differences, there would be far fewer editors. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 18:54, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
TK, what is indefensible is you insinuating the supposed likeness between me and Rev. Phelps without ever demonstrating it on Andy's talk page. I don't appreciate insinuations that I am like Rev. Phelps who protests at soldier's funerals merely because I agree with major bodies of Christendom that Mormonism is not part of Christianity. You talk peace but engage in some very warlike behavior. You can't have it both ways. Please cease and desist. I have no problems having a amicable relationship but comments like the Phelps comment must end. Conservative 15:18, 12 June 2007 (EDT)


Question

At what time does the "no-edit" period begin and end?--Autofire 23:39, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

There are no fixed times, and it doesn't affect proven editors. If you find yourself affected by this, then please simply create new entries offline and upload them them in a few hours when the system reopens editing. Thanks and Godspeed.--Aschlafly 00:26, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Christian terrorism

Andy, What do you think of this article? It's intro reads,

Christian Terrorism is terrorism carried out in the name of furthering Christian goals or teachings. Christian Terrorism, like other forms of terrorism, is related to fundamentalism.

This article was created March 16 and cited Chip Berlet and Prolitical Research Assciates as a primary sources. [12] And I would suggest, if you think it has no place in CP, before deleting it study (a) every contributor connected with it, and most importantly (b) the sources cited throughout it history. RobS 13:21, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

UN

The United Nations is trying to claim immunity from liability for Bosnia. Main Page news? Site Sheriff(Sysop)Geo. 13:29, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Yes, that is a fascinating issue. Could you post a headline and link, along with links to our related entries? Thanks and Godspeed, Geo.--Aschlafly 13:36, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Question

I know this is stupid, but would you mind if I start using "Godspeed"? Its the perfect way to end a message to someone. Bohdan 18:42, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

I welcome it, and often use that greeting to end a message. Maybe we can spread a good habit, Bohdan! Godspeed.--Aschlafly 18:50, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
Its such a polite way to end. My endings are always awkward and come across as perhaps angry. Bohdan 19:00, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
I like it too... but don't overuse it, guys. Its charm is that it's so uncommon. I'd hate for it to be overused.-Phoenix 22:53, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Item for the Main Page?

Hey Mr. Schlafly, I found this item here about a court ruling shooting down the enemy combatant detention plan. This after the Military Commissions Act. If you look at the comments to the article I linked, you'll see that the two who voted (2-1) on the decision are liberal judges. I think this is a classic case of liberal judicial activism. I thought the MCA settled the detention issue; leave it to these two to second-guess the president and the Senate.

Just thought you might be interested?-Phoenix 20:09, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for adding it - it's an honor to be on the main page.-Phoenix 22:52, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Hey boss man!

I was just thinking you might want to add the christianity template ( {{christianity}} ) to our page on the bible. I cant because it is locked. --Grandpa 20:17, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Hey

Did Terry send you the link to the story I found about the gay bomb?--Elamdri 23:33, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Don't think I saw that one.--Aschlafly 23:44, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4174519.stm --Elamdri 00:38, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
That's hilarious! However, I don't see a political edge to it for our front page.--Aschlafly 01:04, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Validates what we all know about deviant lifestyles, though...and why "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" really is trouble. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 01:16, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Do conservatives commonly call FDR's administration the "New Ordeal?"

Are you familiar with this? Among conservatives, is it a commonly-used satirical name for the New Deal? Much discussion about this is in progress... Dpbsmith 09:41, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

As the article states, it is not direct criticism of the New Deal, it refers to the period 1929 to 1949, when the US economy finally recovered from the Crash of '29. The term has long been common among investors refering to both the Great Depression and World War II. RobS 10:05, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
I've moved the remainder of this discussion to Talk:Essay:New Ordeal. Ed Poor recently moved the article to Essay:New Ordeal. Dpbsmith 13:56, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

L.A. Times interview request

Hello --

I've put out a few other requests on various talk pages but promise this is the last one.... I don't want to clutter up your site. I'm a reporter for the L.A. Times, working on a story about Conservapedia, and I wanted to talk to several avid CP users and writers about the project... The one hitch: I'm bumping up against a deadline and would have to reach you all this afternoon or tomorrow morning. Please e-mail me at stephanie.simon@latimes.com if you have a minute to chat or exchange thoughts online. Really appreciate your help --

Stephanie Simon


Just a note here. I notice that some users are posting messages to the effect that we not talk to this reporter until we have read her prior work. We should talk to her. It is a chance to place Conservapedia in a major news outlet. --Irat 13:36, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

I have looked at some of her work. She tries to sound objective, but you can tell she is a liberal who will find a way to mock conservative Christians. No one should talk to her.--Snuffy 08:31, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

This seems okay; this didn't approve of her style; neither does this; this. But ultimately, if a reporter wants to write a piece that slams CP, they will do that whether people here speak to them or not. I note that the CP rejects at Ratwiki have been making concerted efforts to get in touch with the reporter, anyway. File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 09:06, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Ratwiki? --SimonA 13:01, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Mormonism and Christianity template - Second compromise position

Please continue this disscussion in the appropriate place Template talk:Christianity. Thank you. RobS 15:43, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Re:deadline

I am confused. What do you want me to do? Bohdan 16:22, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

I sent her the email. Bohdan 17:08, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Andy, I think the Sysops have to have a discussion among ourselves regarding this matter

Andy, I think the Sysops have to have a discussion among ourselves regarding this matter: http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Main_Page#Competing_against_wikipedia_-_our_best_chance I do think that this is a very serious matter and we need to take action as soon as possible. Conservative 17:05, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Andy

Andy, I am not at home but I could call the reporter collect. Can you email me the reporter's phone number? Conservative 17:10, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Andy, I spoke to the reporter.

Andy, I spoke to the LA Times reporter. Conservative 17:45, 12 June 2007 (EDT)


VANDALISM

Flagrant vandalism by someone calling them self "Canadian Scientist".

[13]"Superb comments, Ray. Please edit it further. I just removed some of the liberal bias based after being alerted by your comments.--Aschlafly 11:42, 12 June 2007 (EDT)"


Admin Aschlafly and Moderator Conservative (by email) gave me permission to take control of article on Charles Darwin.

I ask that my edit be restored and the vandal to be banned for life. I would have reported this on the Report Abuse page but it would not let me edit.

Ray Martinez 6-12-07

This has been handled. Bohdan 19:08, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Wealth distribution of Venezuela

Just thought you would find this humourous; Venezuela has a more inequal distribution of wealth than the US! Silly Chavez...picture. --Ĥøĵĭmåçħôńğtalk 20:18, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Thanks, Hoji!--Aschlafly 21:15, 12 June 2007 (EDT)


That's not really that unsurprising. It's the places with really inequal distributions of wealth where people like Chavez manage to sieze power.--Steve 11:15, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Reporter ASAP

OK.

An E-Mail is already sent.

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 22:18, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

I have a question

Sorry to bother you, but I don't know what to do. I just wrote articles on the Townshend Acts, Navigation Acts, and Proclamation of 1763, and I am planning to write another on the Intolerable Acts. But there is another name for them, the Coercive Acts. What should I name the article? Thanks. GregLarson 23:02, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Pick one name for the article, and then create an entry for the other name that makes use of the redirect button above (12th from the left) to send visitors to your first name. Thanks!--Aschlafly 23:05, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

If you're still awake (I'm not sure what time zone you're in...), I'd like some feedback on my entries so far. I'm new around here, and I've read around many articles and talk pages, and the concensus seems to be quick, concise, to-the-point articles. Here are the articles I worked on this evening:

Feedback would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Mr. Schlafly, Greg 01:46, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

They look great! Having explained those law in those entries, now you won't forget those different laws for a long time! That's the power of this wiki software: don't read a book to learn, but write a book to learn.
I'm trying to add the right category to your entries by inserting Category:United States history (with double brackets around that) at the bottom. That enables finding them by Category. But I'm not sure I have the name right yet.--Aschlafly 02:03, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Ah, I have it now. Use capital "H" for History. Go into the editing for Proclamation of 1763 and see what I added. I will add this for your other entries next.--Aschlafly 02:07, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Excellent. Thanks for the feedback. I will be sure to categorize future history articles I write (there will be plenty!) Greg 02:08, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Thank you. You're work is excellent and I look forward to reviewing your future entries. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 02:12, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Hello again, Andy. Would it be possible for me to upload an image to go on the Berlin Wall article? I'd like it to be the photo of the young man murdered by the guards while he tried to escape to freedom. Greg 21:30, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

On second thought, I can simply provide you with the link, and you will be able to go ahead and lock the image, as I have noticed the others do. Here is the image I wish to use. Thanks! Greg 21:32, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Better yet, Greg, I'll give you uploading privileges. Simply confirm what state you are from.--Aschlafly 21:36, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
That would be the Bluegrass State! :) Greg 21:36, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Excellent! You now have uploading power. Congratulations!--Aschlafly 21:39, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Thanks very much! The image is in the article, but has not yet been protected. Greg 21:49, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Done. Thanks!--Aschlafly 21:53, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Patriotism

Hi Mr. Schlalfy, I'm concerned about the patriotism article. It suggests that patriotism is a bad thing, un-Christian, and advocative of violence. As a very patriotic person, I think that this is incorrect, and not suitable for a conservative encyclopedia. Is there anything that you think should be done about this? SimonA 10:09, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

You're right. Christians form the backbone and the front lines of our military. The patriotism entry is off base and needs correction and improvement. Can you do that?--Aschlafly 11:26, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Sure! --SimonA 11:39, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Hey, it looks like some of our editors have already gotten to it. I'll do what I can, though. --SimonA 11:40, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Just a question. How do you know that Christians make up most of the military?--Snuffy 11:41, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Because there are no atheists in foxholes! MadMin 14:09, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
I've written to the L.A. Times reporter at length as well, describing my perception of Conservapedia. --SimonA 11:45, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Madin, that is pithy (and dated), but does anyone have any actual figures regarding what percentage of the military is Christian? Back when I was in, most people seemed to have "no pref" on their dogtags--Philaretes 14:36, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

I'd guess over 90%. I'm sure you can find an answer on the internet, Philaretes ... if you sincerely doubt it, that is.--Aschlafly 14:43, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

I would guess that you are correct, but I suspect that the majority of service members are nominally Christian. I have done an internet search and I have not found any numbers.--Philaretes 14:47, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Online resources are hard to come by, but here are a few related links: *http://www.archives.gov/research/vietnam-war/casualty-statistics.html#religion

One of the most difficult things in a wiki is deciding which statements need attribution. It is tough. Some are obvious: the US is in North America...don't waste your time citing it. Malaria is caused by a microorganism of the genus Plasmodium. No need to cite, really, unless to give people additional resources. "20% of Americans are left handed"--are they? I dont know. Probably need to cite it. Given that most Americans self-identify as Christians, and the military is at least somewhat representative of American society, it seems reasonable to state that most American soldiers are at least nominally Christian. Of course, there is controversy. In the Utah National Guard, how many are Morman? Are they Christian? Reasonable people can disagree.Massimo 15:17, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Yes, attribution demands are often silly. I don't know about this case, but often a demand for attribution can be by someone who does not dispute the fact, but thinks that you cannot prove the fact. This is particularly true if the claim is politically incorrect, such as "few women work as gas station attendants pumping gas." While no one would seriously doubt that observation, some people may demand attribution because they know proof is almost impossible.--Aschlafly 15:26, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

I was not trying to be silly. I just wondered if there were some figures that could be found on the internet. I was not having much luck. The DOD seems to publish statistics about nearly everything and I thought this information must be out there somewhere.--Philaretes 13:18, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Question about your mom

Did she help you create this site with her influence or did you do it yourself?

Odd question. I wonder, is your mom an expert in Wiki-based websites???
No, my mom had nothing to do with this project. A link on our main page describes the creation of this site at Conservapedia:About.--Aschlafly 16:03, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

I read about her in a book - fascinating stuff, how one woman ground the entire "Mandarin" (as Michael Savage calls it) Congress to a halt! Also, thank you for my edit privileges!-Phoenix 19:50, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Image upload help

Can you please upload this image because I don't have upload rights. -GeoPhysics 18:27, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Please see my reply on your talk page. By the way, how did you happen to pick my User talk page in only about ten minutes? You can respond on your talk page. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 18:32, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
I need it for my article, I asked you because you seemed active (i saw you editing abortion) and your user page says you've been a long time Conservapedian so ight you might have upload rights. -GeoPhysics 18:35, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Wow, that's remarkably clever. How about some clever entries, rather than uploading an image of a calculator? I think we all know what a calculator looks like. Thanks and Godspeed.--Aschlafly 18:49, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
People like visual aids and the TI-84 is not any calculator its basically the best. Aside from that the article that was just edited on ketchup has a picture of a ketchup bottle, I think we all know what a ketchup bottle looks like. -GeoPhysics 18:53, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Oh, I don't know about that. I might want to see if American ketchup bottles are the same as Aussie Tomato Sauce bottles, because I'm not familiar with the former. Philip J. Rayment 22:44, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Two more main page notes

  1. Bush nominated for Surgeon General a health care professional who is opposed to the gay agenda. This could have a lasting impact in the fight to ensure a Christian morality for our nation.
  2. Bush's justice department takes on more religious discrimination cases. Obviously the NY Times has a liberal slant to the article... :-( ...but it's interesting news nonetheless.

Goodnight! Sorry I couldn't edit more tonight.-Phoenix 00:55, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

What is...

these people's issue? I can understand an anti-B4B blog, but on closer inspection, it turns out to be a project by a bunch of liberal nut jobs who were thrown off Conservapedia, and are still holding a grudge. Should I go and try to talk some sense into them? --SimonA 12:59, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Sounds like a waste of time, SimonA. I think you'd accomplish more contributing to our large audience here. I'd certainly appreciate learning more from your entries here.--Aschlafly 13:13, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
I dunno… they have a whole wiki set up, a forum, and this blog… --SimonA 13:15, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
Man from past expericence, just fight the battle here. "Protect the mother land" as the Russians would say.--Will N. 13:16, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
Again - have you ever been to one of these things? These people could cause some serious trouble, they seem to have a bunch of dangerous - and technologically skilled - people over there with a vicious vendetta against us. --SimonA 13:23, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
As Jesus said, "What you are going to do, do it quickly."--Will N. 13:24, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
Do you have any desire to come over and back me up? --SimonA 13:26, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
They don't need any input from us over there. Karajou 13:28, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
I wash my hands from the mess. I only do dirty work when I feel I have a nice chance of getting through to the numb skulls.--Will N. 13:29, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
Right. We have better things to do here.--Aschlafly 13:30, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
Jesus encountered viciousness also, and he didn't waste much time on it. Lots of people who out there who hate conservatism, Christianity, America, homeschooling, pro-lifers, etc. It could be worse ... we could be in Terri Schiavo's position and dependent on the Bush-haters for our feeding tube.--Aschlafly 13:30, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
Man, those people are mean. One of their dudes created User:SimonA to keep me from creating it. --SimonA 13:33, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
And look… they they noticed that we noticed. And we're apparently monkeys. Of course, evolutionists think everyone is a monkey, so I assume it's a term of endearment ;). --SimonA 14:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
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