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User:PetyrB has been blocked

User:PetyrB has been blocked. He was Markman. It will be much harder for him to give a repeat performance. And if he manages to give a repeat performance, it will be very short lived. Conservative 17:14, 7 July 2014 (EDT)

He blocked everyone except me. I feel left out. PeterKa 22:23, 7 July 2014 (EDT)
I wasn't blocked either. GregG 22:58, 7 July 2014 (EDT)
I notice that he blocked you three times last year. Perhaps he's mellowed. PeterKa 00:09, 8 July 2014 (EDT)

Becoming an editor of good standing may become harder for someone like him, but I fear that it will be next to impossible for an honest newcomer! Without a strong motivation (for me, it is the my outrage about the disservice the CBP does to the Bible - and a bewilderment when reading about physics), you won't have the dedication to overcome the obstacles into which you are running here at Conservapedia: It took me quite an effort to find a way to appeal my first blocks!


It's at Catch-22 situation: If you make errors - as any newbie will do - you get blocked, and most probably just quit. Newcomers who don't make errors are most probably reincarnations who learned the ropes in a couple of earlier lives. --AugustO 17:41, 23 July 2014 (EDT)

Short note

If you ever get banned again, let me know at HERE and I will unblock you. Conservative 13:57, 11 July 2014 (EDT)

If he is blocked he will not be able to notify you. He will have been blocked surely? There really does need to be a better way to contact admins here in the case of parodists like markman blocking people imo. Davidspencer 14:27, 11 July 2014 (EDT)
He can create another user account solely for the purpose of contacting me at another IP address.
Ok, I will remember that in case markman comes back. He previously banned me several times as well Davidspencer 14:41, 11 July 2014 (EDT)
Fine, just be patient. I am not sure how often the mailbox will be checked, but it will definitely be checked from time to time. And you can always contact other admins too. It makes sense to mitigate any damage caused by a rogue blocker whose blocking privileges are short lived. Conservative 14:50, 11 July 2014 (EDT)
From the Conservapedia commandments page: "Administrators have discretion to act on matters not specifically mentioned here, such as vandalism and sockpuppets."[1] Common sense discretion can be exercised by Conservapedia administrators. Conservative 14:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)


Has hope he will be more amiable should he return

User:Conservative, you blocked me arbitrarily for three days ("needlessly being quarrelsome"), and then you unblocked me, equally arbitrarily. Are you really thinking that this leads to amiability? No, it stirred my curiosity. I reread our exchange at Talk:Generalized linear model and digged a little deeper into the matters discussed:


content created by User:Conservative User:AugustO and subject to Conservapedia's copyright policy Why was this page deleted? From my personal files:

AugustO, I thought you were merely whining. You said you wanted the article improved, yet were unwilling to do the work to improve it. Conservative 18:42, 23 July 2014 (EDT)
How does your petty insult ("whining") justify the deletion of this talk page? Below I showed my willingness to improve the sorry state of this article by collaborating with you! --AugustO 07:46, 24 July 2014 (EDT)
I may write articles on Correlation and dependence and Spearman's rank correlation coefficient and Pearson product-moment correlation coefficient in the future. By the way, Vox Day wrote an interesting article entitled Statistical misleadings. Conservative 13:51, 24 July 2014 (EDT)

--AugustO 16:34, 24 July 2014 (EDT)

While you still haven't answer my question about the deletion of the talk-page, I came to the conclusion that my mentioning of the Question evolution! book for middle school students triggered the deletion of the revisions and my block. You seem to be on an Orwellian campaign to erase this book from memory, a campaign which bodes ill for the trustworthiness of Conservapedia. --AugustO 18:42, 27 July 2014 (EDT)


This is too complicated for an outsider to follow. The important point is that AugustO, who earned the respect of many CP editors is back, and I welcome his contributions. I hope that we can all learn to live together in content-creation-harmony. Wschact 19:38, 27 July 2014 (EDT)

Harmony is important, but honesty, too - especially at a trustworthy encyclopedia. --AugustO 19:45, 27 July 2014 (EDT)

Project

Would you like to collaborate with other editors on a wiki project to help Conservapedia be a strong resource for a given topic.

The topic could be decided by the editors participating.

If you are interested, please go to: The collaborative project. Conservative 22:02, 25 December 2014 (EST)

I'm a little surprised by this "project". A wiki should per se be a collaborative project: I tend to jump on subjects which pique my interest (without an additional layer of administration.) Major obstacles for collaboration on Conservapedia's articles are for me:
  • Some sysops think they own certain articles, and will keep up their preferred version without engaging in a meaningful discussion on the talk-page (see e.g., E=mc²). Some sysops even prevent editing of their pet articles by locking them - I think that you, User:Conservative, are the main culprit when it comes to this tactic!
  • Collaboration prerequisites a certain degree of maturity and honesty. You, User:Conservative, don't have at least one of these characteristics: for example, the "we are many" - charade is just infantile. And how do I know that you won't create new dummy accounts to manipulate discussions? You haven't come clean about User:Historybuff, therefore I don't know whether you will take such crooked steps again.
--AugustO 08:11, 28 December 2014 (EST)
Are you claiming that merely one person is editing using the User: Conservative account? If so, considering your insistence that merely one person is editing using the account, what proof and evidence do you have for this claim? Your little tirade here is not impressive. Also, if you are such a big fan of collaboration, why can't the totality of "User: Conservative"'s edits be a team effort? If "User:Conservative" allows a conservative friend or friends to also use the account, what is that to you? None of the Conservapedia Commandments forbids the sharing of an account.
Next, a very small percentage of my/our articles are locked in terms of editing them.
Furthermore, the Conservapedia wiki article protect tab was created to be used! Conservative 00:12, 31 December 2014 (EST)
It's just common sense:
  • If you are many, your manual of style must be epic: your way of writing is quite unique. Furthermore, it is quite inconceivable that there is more than one editor who shows such a consistent inability to use the preview button (it was created to be used).
  • In your interactions with your fellow sysops, you are treated as a single person.
  • Your medical history: every time you excuse your actions with a lack of sleep, etc., it is the story of a single person.
Hey, it is the internet: You could be a group of medically enhanced Rottweilers, and until your account is closed by your local dog-catcher, we cannot be sure... But for me, you failed the Turing test on multi-personality.
All of the above is not very important: what counts is that you (and your friends/sysops) know how many you are. You know whether you wish to try to deceive your fellow editors.
It is the same as with your dummy account of User:Historybuff: you know whether you acted immorally. For me, it just seems so - and in the internet, appearance is quite important, as we are not able to prove much.
--AugustO 02:40, 31 December 2014 (EST)

AugustO, as far as the inconceivability of User: Conservative being multiple editors, your lack of imagination and germanic stubbornness is not a serious objection.

Second, how would you know if one person or persons using the User: Conservative was using the preview button? Have you done an analysis of the edits concerning this matter? How would you know if persons using the User: Conservative do not use the preview account? How would you know the reason or reasons why "User: Conservativedom" sometimes does not use the preview button?

"User: Conservative" has edited during the day and night. And the illness affecting one of the editors of the User: Conservative account has largely been conquered. For example, a full eight hours of sleep occurred today for the person affected.

Do you believe that one person largely wrote the homosexuality and the Atheist actions against homosexuals article (the title of the article was originally Atheist persecution against homosexuals" if memory serves, but one editor within "User: Conservativedom" objected to this title) and that one person wrote both articles. The article Atheist actions against homosexuals was a shock to those obsessed with the User: Conservative account and the footnoting style is different than the homosexuality article as well. What are your thoughts on this matter?

Have you read C.S. Lewis's article entitled Modern Theology and Biblical Criticism? It should give you pause on psychologically analyzing a writer/writers and his/her/their intentions, etc. etc.

Why don't you ask User: Karajou if User: Conservative is merely one editor? We can guarantee you that User: Karajou will not claim that User: Conservative is merely one editor. Why? Because User: Karajou was informed that more than one person has edited using the User: Conservative account. And User: Karajou has checkuser and could certainly verify this matter.

In addition, we know you were successfully rebuffed about the "historybuff" matter and that you most certainly do not have the moral high ground. You did not prove the identity/identities of the mysterious historybuff. And you acknowledged (after you shown to be acting in an unbecoming manner) that no Conservapedia rule was broken if a person using the historybuff account was an Conservapedia admin (Of course, the same would apply if persons using the account were admins) so you failed again!

Furthermore, has the User: Conservative account edited the Sun Tzu article? If so, then at least one editor with User: Conservativedom understands the strategy/tactic of stealth and keeping the opposition guessing (User: Conservativedom does not agree with all of Sun Tzu's actions/writings by the way). And we know that the left/liberals such as Alinsky use the tactic of attacking individuals before attacking institutions/groups (Rule #12 of Alinsky's rules for radicals). But, User: Conservative is more than one editor! Conservative 15:04, 31 December 2014 (EST)

By the way, German evolutionists did not think that American creationists would land on the beaches of Normandy. But that is exactly what happened!!! (And Dwight D. Eisenhower appears to have been a creationist [2]).
"We can guarantee you that User: Karajou will not claim that User: Conservative is merely one editor. Why? Because User: Karajou was informed that more than one person has edited using the User: Conservative account."
When did this happen? In the first months of your membership? I doubt it, as it seems unlikely that Andy would bestow such extensive rights as "checkuser" and "administrator" on a communal account.
Even when I started editing in 2011, you hadn't come out as a multitude, that happened during the last one or two years. So, assuming that there is more than one user at your account, he/she/them were invited to do so somewhat after 2011. Am I right?
This is quite troubling: your weren't even able to lobby for upload-rights for User:TheAmericanRedoubt until now, but you gave some person access to "checkuser", "administrator" and "oversight" rights! Either this person never had an account here at Conservapedia, or it had an account before, but wasn't seen worthy to get these rights which you decided to share.
I would call this nepotism, and it is impossible to square it with Conservapedia's claim of being a meritocracy:
Conservapedia is a meritocracy. Administrators are selected as needed from the best of the best contributors, there is no popularity contest to determine promotion, and nominations not accepted. By your own work shall you be known.
But that is just a guideline - and you are not so awfully keen of them, like:
Conservapedia does not allow "sockpuppet" accounts or unaccountable anonymous proxy use.
In addition, we know you were successfully rebuffed about the "historybuff" matter and that you most certainly do not have the moral high ground. You did not prove the identity/identities of the mysterious historybuff. And you acknowledged (after you shown to be acting in an unbecoming manner) that no Conservapedia rule was broken if a person using the historybuff account was an Conservapedia admin (Of course, the same would apply if persons using the account were admins) so you failed again!
You were User:Historybuff. The little incident of your intermingled comments at the main talk page made this obvious. User:Karajou could prove it. Thereby you broke a rule (or do you claim that it is just a guideline and doesn't apply to you?)
--AugustO 03:39, 2 January 2015 (EST)
Why are you assuming that User: Conservative may be merely two persons? Why not more?
The User: Conservative account will continue to be shrouded in mystery to you - a black box of conservatism!
As far as the meritocracy issue, the User: Conservative account produces articles that are useful and of interest to the public, well-researched, accurate and scrupulously footnoted. The articles are some of the most popular articles at Conservapedia. Conservative 04:27, 2 January 2015 (EST)
  • The problems which I mentioned above just increase if there are more than two editors
  • So, you decided what merits being "administrator" or having "checkuser" rights? Isn't that the kind of nomination which is explicitly frowned upon in the guidelines?
  • How many socks are there for your account? I repeat, running User:Historybuff was against Conservapedia's guidelines, and the smokescreen which you put up here won't change this fact.
--AugustO 08:19, 2 January 2015 (EST)

高深莫測 Conservative 21:29, 2 January 2015 (EST)

There is nothing inscrutable (?) about it. You are just unwilling to take responsibility for your actions. --AugustO 01:53, 3 January 2015 (EST)
The User: Conservative account was given admin status before the guidelines page was created. The puts a spanner in your germanic stubbornness, your germanic argumentativeness and your germanic obsession with tradition/rules, Herr O![3] Secondly, Conservapedia's policies/rules were not broken. Conservative 02:10, 3 January 2015 (EST)
You created your sock User:Historybuff on Aug 2, 2014, violating the guideline which is in place since years:
Conservapedia does not allow "sockpuppet" accounts or unaccountable anonymous proxy use.
--AugustO 02:54, 3 January 2015 (EST)

First socks, then shoes. Have you ever examined Conservapedia's logo? In America, one is presumed innocent until proven guilty. You never demonstrated that an editor (or editors) of the User: Conservative account edited using the historybuff account.

Second, the point is moot as the former Admin Rob Smith made an appellation to a guideline which affects matters as can be seen HERE. And Admin Joaquin Martinez has edited Conservapedia using various accounts and Aschlafly has never once expressed displeasure about this matter. So your quest to prevail in this matter is futile. It is quite impossible that a guideline was broken in this matter!

Feel free to engage in last wordism at juncture. :)Conservative 03:09, 3 January 2015 (EST)

  • Do you deny that User:Historybuff was your sock?
  • Joaquín Martínez doesn't try to hide his identity by using various accounts.
  • I stick to the commandments and guidelines, thank you.
Feel free to run away. --AugustO 03:15, 3 January 2015 (EST)
AugustO, you remind me of the person who became upset with me when I performed the en passant move in a chess game and captured his pawn. He was not familiar with the en passant rule and claimed a rule was being broken by me. Prove your allegation and ignorance of Conservapedia's rules is no excuse. Checkmate, Herr O!!! Once again, you battled against the User: Conservative account and was easily and effortlessly defeated! Conservative 03:32, 3 January 2015 (EST)
At least you admit that User:Historybuff was your pawn. Using it was just not a clever move, but an act of deceit. --AugustO 03:37, 3 January 2015 (EST)

No admission was made. Prove your allegation and know the rules before you claim a rule was broken! Conservative 03:41, 3 January 2015 (EST)

Happy New Year

The editors of the User: Conservative account wish you a happy new year. Conservative 01:06, 2 January 2015 (EST)

Unblock

Dear AugustO, Thank you for unblocking me. At the same time, TAR also blocked my IP address. If you have access to the block log, could you please unblock that IP as well? Many thanks. Cheers, Wschact 15:59, 11 January 2015 (EST)

Thanks, Wschact 17:43, 11 January 2015 (EST)
"Cheers?" I lived and worked in England and France for 4 years. I very rarely hear Americans say "Cheers". In my limited experience, usually Brits and Australians say it. You Wschact have said it a lot here on CP. Of course, nothing at all wrong with having British or Australian editors here -- on the contrary, the diversity is wonderful. However, you perhaps being from one of those two rather liberal gun free zone countries would explain your frequent anti-American liberal bias in your frequent deletions of strong conservative American and especially firearms/Second Amendment related materials. Now it makes more sense. When I lived over there I frequently heard NRA Second Amendment bashing. I guess you and other self-described, so-called "moderate" (RINO or actual liberal) anti-self defense CP editors perhaps have never seen this flyer. Please examine this World War II flyer: https://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/b4/c5/b4c52576c5d83bde287c5f26a41b9ba5.jpg?itok=wQk-jVj6
http://www.examiner.com/article/would-you-send-a-gun-to-defend-a-british-home
Perhaps User:Conservative, Karajou or JPatt, when you get a chance would please upload this picture to CP under the file name "Send a gun to defend a British home.jpg"? I would like to use it in both an article and an Pro Second Amendment essay such as Essay:France Pays Dearly - Liberal Gun Control Laws and Gun Free Zones that Welcome Terrorists. Some of my essays (Conservapedia:Essays#Firearms_and_the_Second_Amendment) will be good conservative American Patriot "sheepdog" responses to AugustO and Wshacts deletion of Second Amendment, Tenth Amendment States' rights and other firearms related conservative content. Thanks.
TheAmericanRedoubt 09:38, 13 January 2015 (EST)
If you wish to talk with User:Wschact about your time in England, perhaps you should unblock him... --AugustO 10:31, 13 January 2015 (EST)

On cats and lives

User:Conservative, please stand by your threats:

A cat only has so many lives. I think you are on your 8th. But in all of the excitement lately, maybe its your 9th. Do you fell lucky?
Don't count on me bailing you out if you go against Karajou and TheAmericanRedoubt. Conservative 09:10, 13 January 2015 (EST)

Well, User:Conservative, I don't intend to "go against Karajou and TheAmericanRedoubt". But if anything happens to my current live, I just hope that you will do the right thing - one can dream. --AugustO 10:30, 13 January 2015 (EST)

Glad to hear. Good faith editors should not be pestered. Conservative 03:20, 14 January 2015 (EST)
I promise to do the right thing. If you are blocked unfairly, I will unblock you.
Second, have you seen THIS? It looks like 2015 could easily be the WORST year in the history of Darwinism! 2014 was a TERRIBLE year for evolutionism.
Who knows what surprises Creation Ministries International and the Discovery Institute will unleash on Darwinism in 2015?!!!!Conservative 06:17, 15 January 2015 (EST)
"I promise to do the right thing. If you are blocked unfairly, I will unblock you." I couldn't ask for more. Unfortunately, our view about unfair blocks differ: I think that my last block - two days for reinserting a section to User talk:Aschlafly (because A talk page is a user's castle!) - was unfair, seen that deleting User talk:SamHB against the explicit wishes of the user stayed unsanctioned: see User_talk:Aschlafly#Deuteronomy_25:13-15 --AugustO 10:05, 15 January 2015 (EST)
You carp about others breaking rule or supposedly breaking rules. You are not above the rules! As a German, one would think you would thank me for my germanic insistence that you obey the rules also! Conservative 16:18, 15 January 2015 (EST)
I'm sure that I'll be admonished every time I break a rule or violate a guideline of this site! What about you? --AugustO 16:22, 15 January 2015 (EST)
I don't detect a thankfulness for my correction. You still have a rebellious spirit! :) Conservative 16:36, 15 January 2015 (EST)

In 19 Months AugustO submits 2 New 1 Paragraph Articles, 13 New Talk Pages; in 2 weeks 83 Related to TheAmericanRedoubt

Since the 22nd of May 2013 (Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=AugustO) Mr. O has written 2 new 1 paragraph long articles: Sleswick-Holsatia and Ceslas Spicq. Also 1 new redirect page "article" (Amu). He has created 13 new Talk Page articles. 83 of his edits in only 2 weeks have been of my work or related to my work. Perhaps he might want to please consider paying more attention to this Conservapedia:Guidelines#90.2F10_Rule instead of to every detail of my numerous new article and essay contributions. The gentleman "doth protest too much, methinks". :-) Patience is a virtue Mr. O seem to be still attempting to master. TheAmericanRedoubt 18:08, 15 January 2015 (EST)


Yes, I'm annoyed, too, by the effort it takes to get you to make the slightest corrections, like: the category at Attack on Pearl Harbor. You are still producing a plethora of red links - though you have promised otherwise - and I won't ignore this. --AugustO 18:19, 15 January 2015 (EST)
I just now gave temporary 1 day block since he is ignoring numerous advice from Admin User:Conservative and continues to violate the 90/10 rule. TheAmericanRedoubt 18:25, 15 January 2015 (EST)

Well, User:Conservative, time to think what the right thing to do is... Will you support this abuse of the 90/10 rule? --AugustO 18:34, 15 January 2015 (EST)

I receive a report that you are blocking the good faith efforts of someone who wants to create content.
I think you are on your way to having your blocking rights removed. If that happens, a long block against you could last quite a long time. Due to my reduced activity level, I might not even notice if you are blocked for some time even if I was going to undo the block.
I have some projects I am tackling plus I expect to be tacking two more soon so I need to catch up on things. I had an accident happen to me recently and was temporarily injured which set me behind on things. But I recovered recently so I am moving forward. So I told the editor that I cannot referee this one and to refer the matter to Karajou. Try not to pick any unnecessary fights with other editors. That is my advice. Conservative 19:15, 15 January 2015 (EST)
So, you would always do the right thing, if not all members of your collective were to busy... --AugustO 19:23, 15 January 2015 (EST)
(EC) Sorry to hear about your accident, I wish you a speedy recovery! --AugustO 19:25, 15 January 2015 (EST)
Thanks on wishes for a recovery.
Second, User: ConservativeS (plural) fought an ideological delaying action as far as evangelical/militant atheism caused by the fad of New Atheism, but as you can see HERE and the articles decline of global atheism and decline of the atheist movement, the cavalry of Christian apologists, atheists shooting themselves in the foot and circumstances has arrived!!!
To a large degree, our work is done. Like the proverbial and mysterious, high plains drifter/gunslinger, we will be less active and largely ride off into the sunset. :) It's time to tackle new challenges. :) Conservative 20:09, 15 January 2015 (EST)

@AugustO: I would recommend that you accept what Conservapedia has become, and stop trying to change that. You are in great danger. User TAR, who doesn't seem to be well-versed in how this place operates, has been making extremely thinly-veiled threats against you, with the reference to 8 lives or whatever. A phrase that he seems to have picked up from Cons. Stay away. That's what I'm doing.

@Cons: (1) You might want to remind TAR that a few days ago he made an edit with the word "insidious" in the comment, referring to what he was reverting. You might want to remind him that people have gotten into a lot of trouble for using inflammatory words in edit comments. Like "hideous", if I recall correctly. (2) Perhaps you ought to be careful about saying that your work is done and that you might "ride off into the sunset" and "tackle new challenges". Someone might come along and delete your user and talk pages :-) :-) :-).

@both of you: I was delighted to see you two having a conversation on my talk page recently, and I have joined in the conversation. Feel free to come and visit me. I can't really go "outside" when my home state is described as treasonous, so I have to stay at home. I get lonely at times.

SamHB 22:21, 15 January 2015 (EST)

I'm aware of the - rather unveiled - threads, both by User:Conservative and User:TheAmericanRecoubt. Conservapedia stands at a croosroad at this moment, and for me, it is just irresponsible not to show the pitfalls of the way which is likely to be chosen.... --AugustO 04:34, 16 January 2015 (EST)
AugustO, if you get blocked by someone, don't count on me to look into the matter or to notice. I am less active on the wiki now and plan on being less active as well.
In addition, lately you have become so petty and contentious, I cannot say it would trouble me if you no longer edited the wiki. No hard feelings, but that's just the way it is. Conservative 08:26, 16 January 2015 (EST)

FFAF is not a sock account

FFAF is not a sock account. Didn't the Facebook category tag for Freedom from Atheism Foundation which I removed tell you that it was not a sock? I don't think Aschalfly account will be creating a Facebook category tag anytime soon. :) Conservative 03:23, 14 January 2015 (EST)

  • How did User:Karajou deduce that it is in fact a sock-account? He has "checkuser"-rights, hasn't he?
  • You pride yourself with stealth and subterfuge, therefore I cannot take the things you say at face value. --AugustO 15:57, 14 January 2015 (EST)
Stealth is not telling untruths. A stealth fighter pilot is not lying to the radar operators of an opposing country. :)
Karajou probably blocked the person because there was overlap with another person using the same IP for some reason.
Third, people often think reciprocity is deserved when they do something for others. The Freedom from Atheism Foundation (FFAF) has plugged several CP atheism articles. So it is natural that someone would create an article on their foundation at CP. Given that CP covers the atheism topic with some depth, a volunteer/fan of theirs adding an article on FFAF is not unreasonable. Social media plays a significant role in social movements and they have a notable and growing social media presence. They are also financially backed by a large foundation I have been told. Furthermore, they are taking steps to grow into a much larger organization. Conservative 16:31, 14 January 2015 (EST)
August0 why do you say that I am a 'sock' of Conservative ? I don't even know that that means ? FFAF 09:37, 15 January 2015 (EST)
A sock is a sockpuppet. A sockpuppet is a duplicate user account. Don't worry about it. I am an admin and I straightened out the misunderstanding. Conservative 16:33, 15 January 2015 (EST)
This is indeed troubling. If FFAF is unduly blocked, Conservative may not notice due to time/commitments and having largely ridden off into the sunset like the Lone/Many Ranger(s). Then who will revert FFAF's unfair block? Perhaps one of the other admins should keep a particular eye out for FFAF being harassed or blocked. Incidentally, I have changed a section heading in Essay:Worst Liberal Movies. Somebody please check it; I believe it is an improvement as mentioned in Talk:Essay:Worst Liberal Movies. :) ConsMovies 09:56, 20 January 2015 (EST)

My Approach to the Categorization Problem

content created by User:Conservative and User:AugustO - subject to Conservapedia's copyright policy

Here is what I'll do when I encounter nonsensical categories:

  • I will delete them - once.
  • I will explain the deletion on the talk-page.

If the categories are reintroduced, so be it.

In this case, I deleted Category : Science Fiction (already covered by Category:Science Fiction Authors), Category : Dystopian Fiction (covered by Category : Dystopian Fiction Authors, and Category : Libertarianism (covered by Category : Libertarian Authors). --AugustO 05:41, 16 January 2015 (EST)

Enjoy your preoccupation with category tags and your blocking powers while you can. Because they are both coming to an end! You were warned Category Tag Nazi! Your blitzkreig of category tag complaints will soon be kaput! Conservative 07:00, 16 January 2015 (EST)
User:Conservative, you are insulting me. --AugustO 07:04, 16 January 2015 (EST)
You are being inhospitable to new editors and needlessly contentious. I have had it. I asked the owner of the website to strip you of your blocking powers. I believe Karajou agrees with me on this matter. I am not going to discuss this matter with you anymore because it is obvious that I am talking to a brick wall. Conservative 07:32, 16 January 2015 (EST)


It will be very ironic to be punished for something which should be so uncontroversial as the first rule of categorization: nothing should be [in]* a category and [at the same time in]* one of its (direct) super/sub-categories. Andy often emphasizes the importance of logic for this site, so it is very surprising that he'll enforce (as you, User:Conservative imply) illogical categorization!

It is really not rocket-science: R. Heinlein was an author who wrote science-fiction - thereby he belongs into category:Science Fiction Authors. He doesn't belong into category:Science Fiction, as any reader who looks at category:Science Fiction will be surprised that he obviously doesn't fit in a subcategory....

OTOH category:Best Selling Authors should not be a sub-category of category:Science Fiction Authors (as it is now), as it includes authors like Glenn Beck and Agatha Christie... category:Best Selling Authors is also at the moment a sub-category of category:Liberal Authors, implying that all best sellers are written by liberals...

New editors should understand logic, too! So, please, show a little bit more logic, and a little less aggression. --AugustO 07:34, 16 January 2015 (EST)

Don't think listing someone as an "African" and a "African author" or a "conservative" and "conservative author" is the end of the world. This is especially true for small categories. I abridged the manual of style. Wsacht's endless fussing which sometimes was petty was tiresome. So is yours. Conservative 07:54, 16 January 2015 (EST)

(*: edited for clarification)

--AugustO 08:42, 17 January 2015 (EST)

Biblical creationism will be strong in 2015

See: Essay: Biblical creationism will be strong in 2015.

Stronger, higher, faster! Conservative 19:46, 17 January 2015 (EST)

Hey, another prediction! Go, Team Conservative! --AugustO 06:43, 18 January 2015 (EST)

Jawohl?

Some German character traits mentioned by the the Schnitzel Republic: Stubbornness, efficiency/economical and constructive creativeness.[4]

Essay: What if I fail?

There is a little bit of German in every great champion? Jawohl? :)

You will do your category tags right. We must have order! Conservative 02:34, 20 January 2015 (EST)

One of the most childish comments I've read on Conservapeida. Shouldn't an administrator of Conservapedia, someone who represents this site, stand above mocking ordinary editors? Not everything can be excused by your relative youth: you are a member of this site for nearly eight years - so, even if you have started as a high-school pupil, you should have finished college by now. Start to act the part!
I haven't read your essay yet: is it about failed predictions? --AugustO 04:11, 20 January 2015 (EST)
What failed predictions? Could you be more specific? We both know that you cannot! Define the word "soon" taking into account Christian patience and persistence and not worldly impatience! Conservative 04:31, 20 January 2015 (EST)
You are sounding like Bill Clinton: "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is". --AugustO 04:36, 20 January 2015 (EST)
From the Merriam Webster:
  1. obsolete: at once : immediately
  2. without undue time lapse : before long [soon after sunrise]
  3. in a prompt manner : speedily [as soon as possible] [the sooner the better] [no sooner said than done]
  4. archaic : before the usual time
  5. in agreement with one's choice or preference: willingly [I'd just as soon walk as drive]
--AugustO 04:47, 20 January 2015 (EST)

Feel free to demonstrate there has been a undue time lapse. Something you have never done! Conservative 04:57, 20 January 2015 (EST)

The Question evolution! campaign booklet Saga

50 page Question Evolution! booklet. Question Evolution! Campaign runaway train is going to be released Feb 15, 2012
A Question evolution! campaign group now has 3 writers and at least 3 Question Evolution! booklets/books will be coming out. Some of the booklets/books will be designed for young people. May 1, 2012
A 15 questions for evolutionists booklet and book for middle school students will soon be coming out and they are going to be heavily promoted and distributed. Jun 19,2012
SS Evolution! passengers get on your life jackets! A barrage of 100+ page Question evolution! campaign booklet torpedoes is headed your way! Sep 19, 2012
The Question evolution! book for middle school students, edited by a Christian apologist, gains in popularity. Jul 11, 2013
Canadian teacher at a Christian school will be serving as a science editor of the Question evolution! campaign book for middle school students. Jul 18, 2013

Three years ago: the booklet is going to be released, two and a half year ago: it will soon be coming out, two years ago: it is headed your way!, one and a half year ago: it gains in popularity. Yeah, that's an "undue time lapse", as nothing has happened!

--AugustO 05:08, 20 January 2015 (EST)

A few things:
First an excerpt from some writer: "It’s taken almost five more years of hard work, and plenty of rejection, to get to the point where I’m happy to let something mellow in a drawer for a while before sending it out, or where I can stand the (admittedly) long wait times it takes to hear back from literary journals."[5] Another excerpt from a writer: "My CP [critique partner] wrote and worked and studied for TEN YEARS before getting published."[6] Good writing takes time. Next time you feel yourself being impatient about various announcements of events happening soon, see it as an exercise in patience. It would also be helpful, if you had something to pass the time. Why don't you work on providing satisfactory answers to the 15 questions for evolutions. That is something you never did!
We have been sparring about creation/evolution and wiki matters for awhile. I thought my recent post which featured a post from blog which focuses on German culture/Germany was funny and so did my friend who is of German descent. You did not find it humorous. Given your recent bout of ill humor and my recent schedule demands, I think it is best if I largely take a break from sparring with you on talk pages. No hard feelings on my part. Conservative 21:43, 20 January 2015 (EST)

First, let me say what a pleasure it is to visit once agin with my favorite two people, this time in August's house. The view from your front window is specactular, and your music collection is most impressive. (I'd like to meet in Cons's house next time, but he keeps it locked. He has a front entryway, but he keeps burning it down.)

Now Cons, I'd like to talk to you about offensive national stereotypes. This is serious, and I'd like you to pay attention. Really. I apologize if this comes across as mindless "political correctness", but I'm serious.

I spent a fair amount of time this morning reading a number of web pages and other sources about what "wohl" and "Ja wohl" really mean. It's a very complicated and nuanced word. Google translate says "well", in the health sense, along with "probably", "perhaps", "possibly", etc. The Harper-Collins German Concise Dictionary (it's anything but concise!) lists it as a "Schlüsselwort" (key word, important word) and gives many meanings, including "comfortable" and "at ease", along with a great number of idioms, such as "er weiß das sehr wohl" -- "he knows that perfectly well". (But they've gotten rid of the "ß", haven't they?) The combination "Ja wohl" means "yes emphatically" or "yes certainly". As a response to a request it begins to take on the meaning that you seem to ascribe to it, from watching Hogan's Heros and various other silly World War II things: "Yes, sir!" or "I'll do it right away!"

There are web pages that go into detail about its "Yes, sir!" meaning in the military, and the fact that many Americans associate that with the Nazi era.

I've read the "Schnitzelrepublic" web page. It was well-written, light-hearted, and affectionate. But I don't think you have used the term in a light-hearted way with AugustO. Please remember that people can easily be offended by thoughtless national stereotypes, especially when those stereotypes are informed by a Hogan's Heros mentality. And please remember that the Nazi era was not a pleasant time, for Germany or anyone else, and try to make more erudite (love that word!) and well-thought-out comments.

That said, I'm sure AugustO is very efficient.  :-)

Now you two can go back to fighting over what "soon" means, especially in the context of saying just when a booklet will be coming out. Three years is a long time to wait, but I'm sure it will be worth the wait. Idea: Cons, why don't you promise not to block either of us until the booklet comes out?

One more thing: August: can you send me a usable email address? I will not divulge it to anyone else without your permission. My email is at the top of my user page.

SamHB 00:52, 21 January 2015 (EST)

Hi - A[...] O[...] --EOM --AugustO 08:08, 21 January 2015 (EST)
I think we're all glad to hear that the RMS Creationist is plowing full-steam ahead into the iceberg of Darwinism.--DonnyC 22:44, 20 January 2015 (EST)
That literally made me laugh out loud, something which the internet rarely accomplishes. SamHB 00:52, 21 January 2015 (EST)

@User:Conservative: Interesting quotes. I'm missing the part where they are telling you oh, you must announce your book first, and then start to write it! BTW: I don't see your announcements as exercises in patience, I see them as misleading advertising. --AugustO 08:16, 21 January 2015 (EST)

Speaking of predictions

Looking at Recent Changes this morning, I saw that JoeyJ has deleted a very interesting talk page. (The corresponding article page had been deleted by AddisonDM a few years earlier.)

The pages are

The talk page had contained this question from EddyJ:
  • "How did the D Days of the first quarter of the calendar year of 2009 work out? Almost five years later, is evolution still around?"

This brings up the question: Just how did those D-Days turn out? Is evolution still around 6 years later?

And, speaking of predictions, a question was raised a few months back (too lazy too look it up; I'm sure you know what I'm talking about) along the lines of "Evolutionists: Beware the Ides of March". Well, that date is coming up real soon now. Can the author tell me just what I'm supposed to be afraid of?

This is not the first year that dire predictions have been made for the Ides of March. In none of the past cases am I aware that the predicted doom came to pass. Can someone tell me what I missed? SamHB 13:33, 22 February 2015 (EST)

User talk:OGSMEDIA

content created by User:Wschact, User:AugustO and subject to Conservapedia's copyright policy

Welcome!

Hello, OGSMEDIA, and welcome to Conservapedia!

We're glad you are here to edit. We ask that you read our Editor's Guide before you edit.

At the right are some useful links for you. You can include these links on your user page by putting "{{Useful links}}" on the page. Any questions--ask!

Thanks for reading, OGSMEDIA!


--AugustO 04:10, 16 January 2015 (EST)

Unfortunately, OGS Media sounds like the advertising department of "Offgrid Survival"... --AugustO 04:10, 16 January 2015 (EST)

Could you please explain your relationship to Off Grid Survival Media? Thanks, Wschact 14:31, 20 January 2015 (EST)

--AugustO 18:18, 20 January 2015 (EST)

@User:Conservative: NOTE to Fellow Editors and Admins

(As usual User talk:Conservative is protected, otherwise I'd bring up this topic over there)

User:Conservative, you have deleted Talk:Gardening and Talk:Yoga, presumably to get rid of User:TheAmericanRedoubt's announcement:

NOTE to Fellow Editors and Admins: Please note that I am a trained (both in Asia and the USA) and certified professional practitioner / subject matter expert in the field of Complementary medicine / Alternative medicine, particularly Traditional Chinese medicine-Acupuncture, Ayurvedic medicine and nutrition for the last 19 years.

I am a also a life-long gardener who is certified in Permaculture gardening (completed a Permaculture design course (PDC)

Through the month of December 2014 and January 2015, I am working many hours per week on editing Conservapedia. For specifically on a collapsible "See Also" navigation template for the diverse topics of the Alternative medicine, First aid, Permaculture gardening, Firearms, Emergency preparedness and Amateur radio articles I am also working on and articles on related topics.

I will also be working on the Categories for all of these Alternative medicine topics and related Healthcare, Cooking and Nutrition categories and items such as spices (which are related to health and nutrition)

So, I please request your patience in considering not deleting articles or content I have submitted in these subject areas without first discussing it on the Talk Page and letting me know on my User Page, if you would be so kind.

Also, please note that I plan to rapidly submit articles for the "red links". Thank you for your patience.

Do you intend to get rid of it on pages like the following, too?

--AugustO 05:07, 3 February 2015 (EST)

You can delete the alternative medicine entries. That was agreed on.
Keep the material related to conservatism, survivalism, amateur radio, preparedness, guns, cooking, first aid, permaculture, etc.
Much of the talk page additions by TAR were related to Wsacht hounding. They were "preemptive strikes/justifications/defenses". That is why I deleted those TAR article talk pages. The Wasacht hounding issue appears to be solved. Conservative 05:21, 3 February 2015 (EST)
We seem to have quite different ideas of "hounding". Well, I leave it for now... --AugustO 05:44, 3 February 2015 (EST)
I got User:JoeyJ page deletion rights. Please ask him to delete any unnecessary talk pages that were created during the TAR/Wsacht feud. You can put the deletion tags on them and JoeyJ can delete them.
I am guessing TAR will be back within 1-14 days based on my recent communication with him. Conservative 06:19, 3 February 2015 (EST)
Thanks, but it is a tedious task, and I think, I've done my share. --AugustO 06:35, 3 February 2015 (EST)

Evolutionary belief in Germany: It's future in Germany is kaput! And you still can't satisfactorily answer the 15 questions for evolutionists

content created by User:Conservative and - subject to Conservapedia's copyright policy I just read this:

Reporter David Wroe adds, “Creationism—the belief that Genesis and other books of the Bible explain life on Earth—is gaining strength in Germany.” He cites a recent University of Dortmund survey that showed that around a fifth of future teachers and a similar proportion of those who had studied basic biology doubted evolution, along with one in eleven who were studying for a higher degree in biology. Meanwhile, private Christian schools are growing more popular, half of which are represented by the creation-promoting Association of Evangelical Schools. Even evolutionist Dittmar Graf says he is “really sure that the percentage of Germans who doubt evolution is going up and up.” Source: Creationism in Germany, 2009

On March 17, 2014, the news website Deutsche Well reported that evangelical Christianity has doubled in Germany in the last 10 years.[7]

And you still cannot satisfactorily answer the 15 questions for evolutionists! Conservative 04:48, 12 February 2015 (EST)

Thank you for the interesting links - no need to erase them! --AugustO 03:59, 16 February 2015 (EST)

Oh Cons! Did you memory hole your edit of 04:48, 12 February? Shame on you! Bad, naughty Cons! You know better than to do that. For your penance, I'd like you to make 77 edits to the "Atheism vs. Islam" article, within the space of 10 hours. Oh, I see you already did that. Good. SamHB 00:25, 17 February 2015 (EST)


Reading the Bible in Koine Greek

My friend is going to learn Koine Greek in order to be able to read the New Testament in its original language. Are you able to do that now fluently?

Do you own an English version of a Bible? If so, what English version do you like? Conservative 06:30, 18 February 2015 (EST)

User:Conservative, a short time ago, you wrote that you do not talk about your personal affairs. So, why should I? Unless, we make it a little quid pro quo:
  • How is your Greek?
  • Which version of the Bible do you own? What English version of the Bible do you like?
I'll answer your questions after you have answered the questions above. Otherwise I'm quite willing to tell you about the experiences a friend of mine had with the Greek language.
--AugustO 07:43, 18 February 2015 (EST)
An editor using the User: Conservative account would like to take you up on your offer in this manner, answer your questions in relation to English versions of the Bible (any non-English versions will not be included) and of course I will answer the Greek question too. Conservative 20:47, 25 March 2015 (EDT)
I'm confused: is this secondary user of your account the friend you spoke about? Are you, the main user, interested in Greek? Never mind, I'm waiting for your answers:
  • How is your Greek?
  • Which version of the Bible do you own? What English version of the Bible do you like?
--AugustO

My knowledge of Koine Greek is poor. It consists of just a few words learned through sermons (for example, the words agape, phileo, eros, dunamis, etc. etc.).

I own these versions: NASB, NKJV, KJV, J.B Phillips translation of the New Testament and the NIV (not a big fan of the NIV).

Except for the NIV, I like all of the versions of the Bible I own. Each one has its own flavor. I also like the Berkeley Version and this new version of the Geneva Bible. Conservative 06:36, 26 March 2015 (EDT)

  • I got my Graecum at school, after learning classical Greek for four years. At university, I took a course in Bibelgriechisch (Greek of the Bible / Koine Greek). So, I'm able to translate verses, but would have trouble to make polite conversation with the Apostle Matthew.... To understand the subtleties of the texts, I have to consult commentaries.
  • No, I don't own a hard-copy of an English version of the Bible, but thanks to the internet, I can read many versions. In German, I prefer the Lutherbibel, and the first English version I look up is always the KJB.
--AugustO 16:34, 28 March 2015 (EDT)
Thanks. I am torn between doing Bible memorization and learning Koine Greek. I may do both, but probably just one in the short term given the number of various projects I have committed myself to.Conservative 03:54, 30 March 2015 (EDT)
I've great respect for those who know large portions of the Bible by heart because they studied it, preached about it, used it - and every Christian should know at least some verses!
OTOH, memorizing the Bible for its own sake doesn't strike me as an intellectual endeavor - any third-rate actor should be able to do so. In my experience, those who have memorized it for its own sake are a lot like vegans - it is one of the first things about themselves they bring up in any conversation....
--AugustO 05:29, 1 April 2015 (EDT)

Some branches of psychology are pseudosciences and laymen are able to do just as well as trained professionals. At the same time, cognitive psychology is very useful and helps with such things as designing airplane cockpit instrument panels and increase people's intellectual abilities. This book shows people how to boost their memory by about 40-60% or more using various memory techniques and I believe it was written by a cognitive psychologist. The figures of 40-60% or more is based on experimental evidence. I plan on learning these techniques this year.

This book, written by the well-known educator/philosopher Mortimer Adler, which sold over 500,000 books and is considered a classic, shows people how to increase their reading comprehension and a website I visited highly recommended this book and I plan on reading it this year.

After all is said and done, in order to better study/apply information, you need to be able to comprehend it and recall it. So memorization/comprehension are fundamental skills worth enhancing as they increase your efficiency/speed of learning. And part of that process can certainly include practicing new memory skills.

The Book of Daniel noted that knowledge will increase in the end times and we live at a time of a knowledge explosion in many respects so these skills are very useful now. I am a big believer in lifelong learning and chided my friend who recently said she was too old to learn. I told her that the mind is like a muscle and if you don't exercise it you will stagnate.

Lastly, I believe there are benefits of taking time to memorizing Scripture and some of them are given below.

Fine, then do so. Please inform me after you have completed this task. --AugustO 09:28, 1 April 2015 (EDT)
Actually, after I finished my university education, I took some college courses and in one of them I memorized Scripture. So I already started the process.
Second, there is an additional thing I wanted to say: "Overlearning is the repeated practice of a skill or study of material to further strengthen memory and performance. Rehearsal enhances performance past the initial point of learning because the neural processes involved become more efficient and recall speed improves."[8] One of the key concepts of learning is learning through repetition and memorization involves repetition. It also causes saturation of learning and saturation can increase your depth of understanding and saturation of learning has been linked to increased creativity (You can better creatively apply your knowledge).
Another key point is that at times of temptation, it helps if something is second nature to you. Martial artists repeat movements over and over and over and so things become second nature. So they can perform movements without even thinking about it so to speak. Conservative 18:47, 1 April 2015 (EDT)
Good for you. I just think that learning a language is a more enriching task. --AugustO 06:49, 2 April 2015 (EDT)

Benefits of memorizing Scripture

I agree with this person who said:

"The perceived value of memorizing scripture, or of memorizing anything for that matter, has fallen on hard times in recent years. Trends in education, and the pervasive belief that memorization is simply a rote practice that has no real impact on true learning, have relegated memorization to an outdated, dusty tool. However, in dismissing the value of memorization, we have lost the practice of internalizing things that are worth keeping and pondering.

Memorization, whether of poetry, a favorite quote or of Scripture, allows you to reflect on the meaning of words repeatedly and in depth. The ultimate goal of memorization is not to regurgitate a thought for the sake of that accomplishment alone, but to allow the words to affect your thinking and your perspective. People who memorize poetry tend to do so because the words carry message that resonates with them."[9]

"Scripture Memorization Works:

Every time we think a thought, including when we memorize and meditate on scripture, our brains are changed. Dr. Amen, a clinical neuroscientist and psychiatrist and author of Making a Good Brain Great, says, “Every time you have a thought your brain releases chemicals. ... Your thoughts ... positive or negative ... make you feel good or they make you feel bad.” What you read and what you say to yourself, changes ever so slightly the neuropathways of your brain and that, in turn, influences your attitudes, behaviors, and emotions. Scripture memorization allows you to choose words and images that shape your mind and heart. It works in us even when we are not conscious of its doing so." For more information please see: SCRIPTURE MEMORIZATION & MEDITATION by By Pastor Jerry Truex Conservative 08:21, 1 April 2015 (EDT)

Recent news report about creationism in Germany/Europe

Science Nordic: Creationism is spreading in Europe/Germany

Yes, my evolutionist friends, even in the atheistic Netherlands some schools are now teaching creationism! You don't know much about the Netherlands, do you? --AugustO 15:43, 15 March 2015 (EDT)

Spoiling for a fight?

No, I'm not. I've avoided Conservapedia for a couple of weeks, and I tried not to get sucked into any debates. But - as usual - I cannot let Andy Schlafly's "attempts" on translating the Bible (see User_talk:Aschlafly#The_Son_of_God and Son of Man) stand without protest. So, here I am again, going through my watchlist, addressing points I've missed (perhaps a little bit more curmudgeonly than necessary, but I'm irked). --AugustO 17:06, 15 March 2015 (EDT)

Do you think you are going to change Schlafly's view on the authorship of Hebrews or that he will cause you to adopt his view? Do you think you are going to change other people's minds about this matter? When I saw your recent edits (including the talk page comment directed towards me), the most reasonable explanation is "spoiling for a fight". Conservative 17:50, 15 March 2015 (EDT)
When I started at Conservapedia four years ago, I thought that one could have interesting discussion on Biblical Greek and gain insights by joined translations. Unfortunately, now I have to admit that this was just wishful thinking: it is the other way round. At first, you have an insight by A. Schlafly, and then, everything, even God's Word is bend to fit the insight.
"Fourth, argumentative. This one.....some folks might argue about (get it?). Germans can find a thousand things to argue about. It could be one guy planting shrubs of a disliked nature that the neighbor can't stand. It could be the act of cranking your car for two minutes in winter to warm it up. One minute of such a cranking would be tolerated, but not two, and thus inviting an argument sooner or later."[10] - taken from the essay The Seven Personality Traits of a German posted at the blog Schnitzel Republic. Conservative 17:53, 15 March 2015 (EDT)
Spouting national stereotypes is certainly an excellent way to calm down your interlocutors.
But yes, when I spot litter, I pick it up. When I see a rubbish translation based only on a dubious insight, I argue against it. I won't get a clean world, I won't improve the CBP very much (it is just abysmal). But I try. Deutsch sein heißt, eine Sache um ihrer selbst willen zu tun. --AugustO 18:12, 15 March 2015 (EDT)
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