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Hello, Deborah, and welcome to Conservapedia!

We're glad you are here to edit. We ask that you read our Editor's Guide before you edit.

At the right are some useful links for you. You can include these links on your user page by putting "{{Useful links}}" on the page. Any questions--ask!

Thanks for reading, Deborah!

DanH 15:32, 23 March 2008 (EDT)

Wow, you're the master of mythology!!! Hope you had a good Resurrection Sunday.--Aschlafly 11:45, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Thank you Deborah 11:51, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
Good work, but it could be better. Take a look to Marduk last edit and see how. Welcome. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 15:15, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
Can not find that category. Give me a link please. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 15:29, 24 March 2008 (EDT)


John Wesley

John Wesley, we already have one article with that name. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 16:06, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

I figured that out and fixed the problem -Deborah 16:06, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

This "(1703-1791) was a Christian reformer" was lost. Please fix it. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 16:13, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

It mentions he was born in 1703 and died in 1791 in the article -Deborah 16:15, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Yes, but we use to place (1703-1791) after the name. See: William Shakespeare. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 16:18, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Oh okay I'll fix it -Deborah 16:19, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

If you read the text of the article you will find, clearly, that he was Christian and reformer (New "denomination"). No need for citation. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 16:24, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

You are right founding a new denomination would make you a reformer. -Deborah 16:25, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Bye for today. It is a pleasure to have you in CP. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 16:29, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Thank you -Deborah 16:36, 24 March 2008 (EDT)



When creating a category that has multiple words, please do so with Capitalization such as "Greek Deities" instead of "Greek deities". Thank You Learn together 01:56, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

You really should check the categories section to make sure there isn't already a category that follows the above rule (stated by Learn together). Video Games already existed.. -_- Fuzzy|AFD 21:57, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Also, read the Style Manual linked in the Useful Links box above. It says (among other things) that categories are to be in title case. Philip J. Rayment 22:10, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

I accidently made the category, I have been following the rules when I made categories, it was a fluke -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 22:13, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Fair enough! Philip J. Rayment 22:21, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Just for your laziness

I can't categorize all your pages just because you don't feel like it. The ones you have forgotten are located here. Have a nice day. ^_^ Fuzzy|AFD 22:56, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

American Actors


One of the things I try to do when I create a category is to follow it through with whatever entries would be appropriate. I'm not sure we needed a category for American Actors, but if you choose to make one, then you should go through the actors section to see who belongs and who doesn't. I'm afraid as it is right now many American actors are not in that category and other actors, such as Mel Gibson and Arnold Schwarzenegger are -- and that could be confusing since both were born in other nations. When possible, we try to set up our site to be as easy to navigate as possible with a minimum of confusion. That's just my thoughts. Learn together 23:45, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

Although Mel Gibson grew up here in Oz, he was born in America. Whether place of birth is sufficient to count him as an "American Actor", though, is another matter, I guess. Philip J. Rayment 07:57, 28 March 2008 (EDT)


How come you're not nice? --DJBlair 16:13, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

The nightmare run-on sentence left on my talk page didn't answer why you are so unfriendly. Here's a second chance to grapple with the question. --DJBlair 16:23, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

You aren't supposed to use User talk pages so much so stop or you'll break the 90 10 rule --Deborah 16:24, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

Fixed. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 16:27, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

Fixed? --Deborah 16:29, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

Nevermind I see, Thank you, also User:DJBlair keeps on annoying me can you please get him to stop --Deborah

 :: Done: DJBlair and Ormolu. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 16:33, 25 March 2008 (EDT)
See his history. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 16:41, 25 March 2008 (EDT)


Wow, Deborah, what a terrific number of entries!!!--Aschlafly 17:03, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

Thank you, I want Conservapedia to beat Wikipedia, but then doesn't all the editors want that? --Deborah 17:05, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

I have made about 100 articles in 3 days if I can keep it up at that rate I can make about 12,000 articles in a year --Deborah 17:12, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

You'll receive lots of help creating and improving articles also!--Aschlafly 17:17, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

I know, I use the related changes on the edit console for my user page to look at edits of other users on articles I have created --Deborah 17:19, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

Image uploads

Congratulations! You have earned the privilege to upload images!--Aschlafly 11:16, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Thank you-- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 11:17, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Yes, there is that category. Let me look it for you.
When uploading an image, write also the "Source". See: [1] --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 19:36, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
Only this one: Category:Image --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 19:41, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
Take a look here: Fair use and Public Domain --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 19:46, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
Is there a category for Public Domain Images? Answer: I think there is not. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 19:53, 26 March 2008 (EDT)


Hello Deborah.

You were the creator of the {{Nuttall}} template, and perhaps others also. Since late May 2007, Conservapedia requires that all templates be properly documented. Please see Creating templates for instructions on this. If the template(s) are not documented, they will be deleted. Thank you for your co-operation in this.

Alternatively, if a particular template is no longer required, please ask a sysop to delete it.
Thanks for that.

Philip J. Rayment 11:38, 26 March 2008 (EDT)


To which university do you go?! ~BCSTalk2ME 12:33, 26 March 2008 (EDT)


Sasha is blocked for personal attacks and vandalismGeoff PlourdeComplain! 17:11, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Okay, but I think one week is too lenient for replacing my user page, with an insult, harrasing me, and creating two bogus articles -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 17:12, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Aqeda/Christian exegesis

Deborah, just added my comment to your comment on the Midrash. Your choices to write about, I see from your compilation, are intriguing!BertSchlossberg 11:24, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

Hindu Deities


parvati 11 40

-- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 13:56, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

Fiction Articles

Perhaps you could consider bundling all these articles into broad Characters in Family Guy and the like articles, solely for the purpose of reducing relatively trivial fancraft. This has been done for the Inheritance Cycle and Harry Potter, it could be done here as well. TheGySom 15:47, 1 April 2008 (EDT)


Ask Ed Poor. He did it. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 17:45, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

It was a "not to be confused" situation. We could add one of those wikipedia like lines at the top of the page instead. Bohdan 17:46, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

That would probably be a better idea -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 17:47, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

I don't care about the style. I just want to make sure that no one thinks we are "correcting" Buddha with a new spelling or definition. --Ed Poor Talk 18:14, 1 April 2008 (EDT)


Before reverting a Sysop you have to use the talk page. Is it clear enough? --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 17:47, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

Again, before deleting take care and ask. Specially important subjects. Last warnig. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 22:27, 1 April 2008 (EDT)
What if the sysop is editing as an editor rather than as a sysop? Philip J. Rayment 06:07, 2 April 2008 (EDT)
Philip - to date that is not a distinction that most sysops care to make. Aziraphale 12:10, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
You said "most". What about the remaining sysops? Philip J. Rayment 18:45, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
I'm no math whiz, but if there's a binary situation (sysops do or not care to make that distinction) and most don't... well, ok, I guess the rest could abstain by avoiding any situation where it comes up, so now I'm hog-tied. :)
No, sorry, you've always been straight with me, you deserve a straight answer. There are a few of you, you included, that accept nuanced situations like the one you asked about. If you feel I was tarring you with that brush I really do apologize. Aziraphale 00:35, 5 April 2008 (EDT)
No, I didn't feel that, but your answer avoided the question I was originally asking, which is how is a user supposed to know what edits are "unrevertable" sysops edits and which aren't? Philip J. Rayment 04:25, 5 April 2008 (EDT)
The rule of thumb for safe editing: Never revert or otherwise change anything (except typos) written by a sysop.--RossC 11:45, 5 April 2008 (EDT)
Hi, Philip,
In my defense, I didn't "avoid" answering so much as I missed the nuance that you were aiming for. The answer to the question you're actually asking is "they can't, because enforcement here is capricious." Individual sysops aren't necessarily capricious, in fact you can set your watch to several of them, but since you don't know which one is going to get involved in any given situation it's impossible to know what you're going to get.
And now you know one of the reasons I hold the opinions I do, as expressed elsewhere. Aziraphale 12:24, 5 April 2008 (EDT)
"Avoid" may not have been the best word, but I was talking about the consequences of your response rather than your intention. And to RossC as much as you, I would also point out that I was asking the question of Joaquin. All these other responses have possibly resulted in him "avoiding" answering the question. Philip J. Rayment 01:54, 6 April 2008 (EDT)

Categories (2)

Thanks for helping with little updates like this. In case you get bored, User:EdBot can do the rest. :-) --Ed Poor Talk 18:56, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

Deborah, I gather you're responsible, but forgive me if I'm wrong... I believe that you're changing categories such as Australian cities and towns to Australian Towns and Cities. The capitalisation I can understand (Manual of Style), but I'm curious about the reversal of "cities" and "towns". It probably doesn't really matter, but I would have thought that the better choice would be to have the larger one (cities) first. Philip J. Rayment 06:10, 2 April 2008 (EDT)

You've been asked nicely, you've been told, but you keep doing your own thing with categories. Come back tomorrow. --Ed Poor Talk 21:12, 3 April 2008 (EDT)


It has some material. Take care. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 15:32, 6 April 2008 (EDT)

ok I see -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 15:33, 6 April 2008 (EDT)


This is lost:

An example of a myth that pre-dates Campbell is the Lord of the Rings trilogy, where, curiously, Samwise Gamgee appears as the main character (and Bilbo Baggins does the same in the Hobbit).


Mythology --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 17:54, 7 April 2008 (EDT)

OK, Thank you. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 18:02, 7 April 2008 (EDT)


Please, could you check this word?: "relation"; it is here:

"in his relation to the Jews he ranks next to Moses"

Maimonides --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 10:14, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

It says exactly that line -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 16:08, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

Maimonides is one of the most influential figures in Judaism specifically Orthodox Judaism -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 16:09, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

American Actors

On behalf of the site I want to thank you for your good work. But we do need a resolution to the American Actors Category. As it stands right now it was partially completed and that only causes confusion. Personally I would vote for just putting them all back in Actors and if the category is too big, then split them up by last name. Thanks Learn together 16:36, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

Agreed -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 16:37, 8 April 2008 (EDT)


As this is being discussed at present, and changes being made, especially to "American", could you please either make contact first, before adding to or omitting from categories? Thanks! --₮K/Talk 23:54, 10 April 2008 (EDT)

Discussion was going on concerning the African American category not american categories, Category:United States Mayors should obviously be a subcat of Category:Americans -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 23:56, 10 April 2008 (EDT)

No, it shouldn't. Please stop. --₮K/Talk 23:59, 10 April 2008 (EDT)


You just did the unspeakable, and redirected to a non existent page! Stoney 01:56, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

Category scheme

I wish you'd stop going all over the place, creating categories as you see fit and holding various discussions on multiple user talk pages.

I want you to propose a category scheme before you do any more significant category work. You may continue to make minor categorizations, but don't do anything radical or which is likely to be undone.

Try to think of what would be most helpful for the reader, and avoid like the plague anything which simply makes some ideological point. --Ed Poor Talk 15:35, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

University blocking and your signature

Wow that sucks that they blocked Conservapedia. If Conservapedia's really so bad then they should just let us see it and have it be its own undoing but they know that people seeing it would undermine their gay agenda so they won't do that. I go to UC Berkeley and we can access Conservapedia.

Anyway, how'd you get the American flag in your sig? Darkknight 18:38, 20 April 2008 (EDT)

choose check for raw signatures and put for nicknames {{SUBST:User:Deborah/sig}} -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 20:49, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

The Law

On another user's page you said that obviously Jesus didn't abrogate the Old Testament ban on homosexuality, because he "came to fulfill the law, not to destroy the law."
Question - do you keep Passover?
I ask because, it seems to me that whether or not Jesus came to "destroy the law" depends upon whom you ask, or how you define "the Law." So your argument, "Jesus didn't abrogate the ban on homosexuality, because he didn't abrogate the law, and the law includes the ban on homosexuality" is kind of circular... since it's clear that Jesus' coming, to most Christians, did destroy quite a bit of the law!!
Then again, maybe it's time to accept that, since Paul, Christianity has become so divorced from the actual teachings of Christ as to become utterly free of Jesus' own preferred meaning, hmmm?
And on whether Jesus meant to destroy the law in general, didn't He say, "I come not to bring peace, but fire, and the sword?"-Chimera1 00:26, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

Comparing a ceremony (Passover) with an immoral practice (homosexuality) is hardly appropriate. "Jesus didn't abrogate the ban on homosexuality, because he didn't abrogate the law, and the law includes the ban on homosexuality" is not at all circular, even if one of the two premises in that statement is false. Philip J. Rayment 06:32, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
Phil, I understand that you make that distinction. But the question was whether Jesus himself makes that distinction. Which you haven't addressed.
Deb, I don't know what you mean by the ref to Jonah, please clarify?-Chimera1 08:48, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
Huh? Are you saying that the Passover is not a ceremony, or that homosexuality is not treated as an immoral practice? Because unless you are, it is not just my distinction. Philip J. Rayment 11:31, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
I'm saying you haven't proved a distinction between the moral force of the two requirements that's intrinsic to the New Testament.-Chimera1 12:59, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
What "moral force" does a remembrance ceremony have? Philip J. Rayment 06:40, 24 April 2008 (EDT)
Please add constructive information to the Conservapedia site. Questions in regard to specific articles are allowed in the context of improving those articles, but this site is an educational resource, and not a debate forum. If that is your desire, then there are other areas on the web that can entertain you. Learn together 13:07, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
LearnTogether, you can't use the mantra of "we're an encyclopedia" as the shield against people pointing out when you're wrong. Deborah and Philip are incorrect in their arguments, and conscience demands that I meet their points in debate, no?-Chimera1 20:56, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

The Book of Jonah teaches the ethical law applies to non-Jews, read it, it is not that long-- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 20:58, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

The Torah teaches the Caananites were expelled from the land for not following the ethical law-- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 20:59, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

I'm arguing that Jesus' new covenant superseded the old testament; this all started because you said that, no, Jesus reaffirmed select parts of the Old Testament. I seriously doubt that an old testament book will prove your point :-)-Chimera1 21:00, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

Read the book, why are you so scared of reading it, it is only a couple chapters long-- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 21:02, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

If I take your allegations of what it argues as true, it still doesn't meet my argument. Why waste the time?-Chimera1 21:05, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

So how do you avoid being banned?

With a template like this:

Patriotic.jpeg This user believes it is patriotic to question authority

you must be on their ****list! BTW, it is too bad your University blocks Conservapedia. What University is it? Apparently, they have the same attitude toward people who disagree with them as the Conservapedia Administrators!--RonPaulsRight 11:13, 24 April 2008 (EDT)

I create articles and categorize and try to not do controversial edits, though it is not allowed to move many whole categories in a short span of time-- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 11:15, 24 April 2008 (EDT)

Great work

Just noticed your contributions. How do you have the energy to do so much. Great work!--MReilly 15:00, 24 April 2008 (EDT)

I desire to surpass wikipedia so I work very hard-- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 20:19, 24 April 2008 (EDT)

Links for atheism

Deborah, please don't create links for all mentions of atheism. It's fine to link it once in an article, but we generally don't create multiple links to the same word. It becomes overkill, especially if that is not the main focus of the article.

Thanks Learn together 18:03, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

LDS Temples

Deborah, if you're just listing the temples it's better to put them all on one page for handy reference. It serves our reader better. --Ed Poor Talk 21:26, 28 April 2008 (EDT)


Thanks, done.

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 00:10, 30 April 2008 (EDT)


How do I upload images, I have some I would like to upload some of some various video game characters. Thank you.--ITSAMEMARIO 20:07, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

People earn those rights when Andy thinks you have earned that privilige and are safe (and won't upload say porn) ask him on his talk page for that privilige or ask an admin to upload them for you-- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 20:11, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

alright, I will have to work my way up the ladder then ;) aren't you an admin though? you just seem so involved in the website, I just naturally assumed you where.--ITSAMEMARIO 20:14, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

I belatedly saw your request

Can you move Template:Antihitler to Template:User Antihitler-- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 22:38, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

Done. Conservative 00:07, 1 May 2008 (EDT)


Thank you for the award, I am also going to google wiki formatting right now to, so I can learn more.--ITSAMEMARIO 19:42, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

Your welcome, I think you definitly deserved the award that was a very long terms article -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 19:43, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

As for the googling thing good idea -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 19:43, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

By the way, does this site have a "sandbox" Like the wikipedia site does?--ITSAMEMARIO 19:53, 1 May 2008 (EDT)


If you type {{welcome|sig=~~~~}}, your signature will be inside the welcome box.You might also like to have a look at user talk:Philip J. Rayment/Welcome script. Philip J. Rayment 19:12, 2 May 2008 (EDT)


Hi Deborah,

I have enjoyed you edits. But my prediction is unfortunately you will never ever become a sysop on this website. --Snooper 15:22, 3 May 2008 (EDT)

Wrong. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 12:21, 4 May 2008 (EDT)


Red links in this article are a good challenge for you. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 12:22, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

I already got rid of some of the red links by redirecting Baruch Spinoza to a different name, I g2g -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 12:23, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

The article needs much more of your help. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 20:03, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

There is red links in that article for people I have never heard of:

What do you want me to do that article name the specifics, I could try to expand it -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 20:11, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

Try to make little articles for some red links, just the basic info, that will be great help. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 20:24, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

okay -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 20:25, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

Presuppositional Apologetics

Just a suggestion: when copy/pasting from other websites, please remove the original website's tagging (eg the note numbers in the a/m article). Also, to avoid people claiming plagiarism, it is best to rewrite the material or enclose it completely in quotation marks. 10px Fox (talk|contribs) 12:46, 5 May 2008 (EDT)

how is that vandalism? no one knows for sure where petroleum came from —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Doubledgedsword (talk)

that was pure satire -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 17:56, 5 May 2008 (EDT)

quick question

How long do you think it will take to fix the typos, combine references, etc. in the atheism article? I want to ask other conservative websites to link to the article and as I have had a lot to do I have not had time to proofread it with a fine tooth comb. Conservative 20:42, 5 May 2008 (EDT)

I am not sure, but I have noticed a couple misspellings for example, Christopher Hitchen instead of Christopher Hitchens, Francis Thomson instead of Francis Thompson, I can contact you when it is finished-- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 20:45, 5 May 2008 (EDT)

I temporarily unlocked the atheism article

I temporarily unlocked the atheism article. let me know when you are finished. Conservative 21:27, 5 May 2008 (EDT)

do you still need your deborah/atheism article or should i erase it

do you still need your deborah/atheism article or should i erase it? Conservative 22:00, 5 May 2008 (EDT)

I answered this on your talk page -- 50 star flag.png User:Deborah (contributions) (talk) 22:01, 5 May 2008 (EDT)

Block rights

Congratulations, you have block rights!--Aschlafly 22:02, 5 May 2008 (EDT)


Dear Deborah,

Do you have any interest in doing the ""red link" articles in the articles atheism and Theory of Evolution ? I ask because I may be asking fellow conservative websites to link to those articles. If you don't have any interest that is certainly ok but if you do decide to write some short articles for the red link articles that would be quite helpful. Conservative 22:10, 5 May 2008 (EDT)


Deborah, thanks for your block of Mathewson. But when you block, please revert the vandalism or otherwise it becomes more difficult to detect. Thanks much.--Aschlafly 11:07, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

small request

Dear Deborah,

I would like to work with you and another person on any improvements (typos, rewording, etc) that need to be done on the atheism article. I do have an excellent plan on how we can work together. In the meantime, do you mind if I delete your atheism/deborah workspace. Conservative 18:10, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

go delete User:Deborah/atheism -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 18:11, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

re: categories that need to be deleted

I cannot help you for the next 2-4 days. I have some business contracts to fulfill and I am going to be busy. sorry. Conservative 18:35, 6 May 2008 (EDT)


A rose for Deborah

Thank you very much for your intercession on my behalf. I would have liked to thank you yesterday by email but I found that you had not specified an email address. You might want to consider doing so. Now that you have blocking powers editors may wish to email you in relation to blocks that you impose.

Keep up the good work. You are an inspiration to a number of us here. --LeopoldRex 19:19, 6 May 2008 (EDT)


Have a present.

Dürer bunnyrabbitt.jpg Albrecht Dürer's Print:bunnyrabbitt

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 12:22, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

Reversion explained

I think you made a minor (very minor!) mistake regarding Titian. You redirected the article to his name, but he is familiar world-wide by his nickname. You can revert it if you want, but this would be akin to re-directing the Rolling Stones into "Keith Richards Mick Jagger Charlie Watts, etc" article. Karajou 13:54, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

Please don't breakdown Biblical characters into different Biblical Books

It would make them hard to find and just review. Thanks Learn together 14:43, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

Agree. 10px Fox (talk|contribs) 14:44, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

I only did it for the Book of Genesis Persons -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 17:45, 7 May 2008 (EDT)


How is that a waste of time? You were arguing on there, too. And apparently you were arguing from the same position that I took. If we can convince people, then was that a waste of time? Ultimahero 23:53, 7 May 2008 (EDT)


"Oh, come on!" People should know not to plagiarize—copying a section from one of Wikipedia articles. It is not only a CP commandment, but a commandment in all of writing. -_- Kektk 12:45, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

The first part (it being a commandment) is correct, but the second isn't. Wikipedia gives permission to copy as long as certain requirements are met, and other places sometimes give permission also. Philip J. Rayment 07:10, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Atheist template

I saw that you placed a link to the atheism "article" on the atheist template. Do you think that any atheist in his/her right mind would want a link to that article in their userbox? --Merriweather 01:17, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

Don't know -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 01:18, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

I changed it back. I created the template in the first place, and I linked it to the atheism article without even thinking about it. FernoKlumpPlease, no more death threats. 01:48, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

short note

Dear Deborah,

I know you are fond of the atheism article at Conservapedia. You might want to spread the news about this contest: CP:Theism and Anti-atheism Blog Contest Conservative 12:10, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

Am I about to but first I need to make a navigation template for atheism related articles, this should increase the rankings of several atheist-related articles -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 12:11, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

Causes of Atheism

Done. Let me know when you have finished. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 09:16, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

See Also

For the most part our 'See Also' sections are meant to show an article or two that might also interest someone who is reading that article. Replacing it with a template of a large number of articles under a category bogs down the idea, especially since they could find the same articles by checking up the category. We lose the focus that way. Learn together 13:27, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

It helps increase rankings of articles, perhaps list a few articles on the template, then put the template -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 13:10, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

I temporarily unlocked them

I temporarily unlocked the atheism articles you requested to be unlocked. Conservative 14:44, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

Thanks -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 14:45, 18 May 2008 (EDT)


Why are you undoing my reversions? I went back through my edits and was removing the ones that were unsourced or inaccurate. They were all entirely my work, no one else's, so I think I would know. Is there some problem?--TomMoore 15:22, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

Some of them sounded well thought out just because there isn't currently a source doesn't mean you should delete a later editor can find a source for you -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 15:26, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

Nope, they are erroneous and unverifiable. Conservapedia guidelines dictate they be removed. I entered them and after being banned for four weeks, I had time to look at them and see how wrong they are. Please revert them back, I would appreciate it very much and it would improve them with the removal of wrong information.--TomMoore 15:28, 20 May 2008 (EDT)
Thank you very much :) --Tom Moorefiat justitia ruat coelum 16:36, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

I took your suggestion and PJRs suggestion

Dear Deborah,

I took the suggestion of PJR and you regarding the Cline and Myers issue. I do have some excellent news to tell you in regards to the atheism article and it fits with your and PJR's suggestion better. I am guessing now that I delinked from Cline's site that he will drop down to a Google #11 or #12 position for atheism. I think he used to be around #6 or #7 for the Google search atheism. Conservative 18:03, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

Advice for a Change

I think we could inject some humour into our article on Ronald Reagan if we added this picture. I'm not suggesting we get rid of the original, but this one is my favourite. [2] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SoggyPete (talk)

Your labeling of my picture as "stupid" in a response comment was completely unnecessary. I would humbly suggest that you lighten up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SoggyPete (talk)


When creating new restaurant entries, please provide a link to their website. Thanks Learn together 15:42, 5 June 2008 (EDT)


Can you create various tags for uploaded images, based on this page [3] and containing these images [4]? Karajou 22:19, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Stub tag

Can you delete it entirely and start over? Karajou 23:20, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

There is just one minor error in it though, and I don't have deletion rights -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 23:21, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

I did a minor correction on it by removing an extra "|}" mark placed at the end of the tag line. Did that help? Karajou 23:40, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

It still has another error I previewed Absolutism using User:Deborah/Template:Stub instead of Template:Stub and the error reappeared -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 23:43, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Deborah please use the Stub tag sparingly. Especially be careful of entries such as January. Just because they are small, does not necessarily mean that more information is needed. Thanks Learn together 13:05, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Thanks, Deborah! That rabbit painting by Albrecht Durer is very nice, and I like the Japanese imperial seal too. -RKLuffy88


I'd like to recommend you simply put a list of famous vegetarians in the Vegetarian article instead of making a separate Category. Remember, when possible, we are trying to classify people based on what makes them noteworthy and to keep this streamlined. Thanks Learn together 16:41, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Orthodox Jews

Deborah, please don't classify Biblical characters under Orthodox Jews. There were no designations back then; they were all Jews and the only question was whether or not they were apostate. If you want to have that category, use it for people who specifically define themselves as Orthodox Jews. Thanks Learn together 17:46, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Jewish People

Deborah, please do not include Biblical people as the numbers alone would overwhelm the category. Also, some of the people you put in from the Bible would not be considered to be practicing Jews, please be careful. Learn together 22:11, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

What about the fact that many people in the Bible are Christians and/or Pagan can they be put in such respective categories?-- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 06:38, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

It's best to just leave it as is and not create new categories in this area. Thanks Learn together 02:18, 16 June 2008 (EDT)


Is this indispensable? Why not a disambiguation page for Christopher Columbus and the city of Columbus, maybe other articles? --Tennant 19:52, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

It is better for cities that maybe confused with other articles to be in the format Colombus, Ohio instead of Colombus (city) -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 19:54, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

The article should be "Columbus, Ohio" indeed, however you should have moved the whole content into "Columbus, Ohio" instead of redirecting it to Columbus, thus creating a disambiguation page. Same for "Phoenix, Arizona."--Tennant 20:00, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

Incorrect the article should be moved to Columbus, Ohio so page history is maintained (even though there is very little of that per se) -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 20:02, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

Precisely! And I insist: some of your redirects are pointless at best. (BK?, Judaic tradition? Who on earth is going to look for Judaic tradition?)--Tennant 20:06, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

Tennant that is to make linking faster see so you can make [[Judaic tradition]] instead of [[Judaism|Judaic tradition]] -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 20:10, 16 June 2008 (EDT

If you're happy... --Tennant 20:13, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

Sorry about that

I thought mono theistic was two words. PeterP 20:08, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

It's okay -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 20:08, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

No problem -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 20:11, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

Christians Category

Deborah, please add people to this category only if the Christian lifestyle was a prominent part of their lives. I am removing people if I don't see evidence of this in their articles, but feel free to reinstate if you add information showing how they proclaimed Christian thought. Thanks Learn together 04:13, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

In all the articles you removed Category:Christians it explitically says they are christian, Fred Phelps‎ says on the article, Franklin Pierce says he was an Episcopalian, Barack Obama says so in the intro and has a large section talking about his relation with Reverend Wright, James K. Polk says he was a methodist, William Howard Taft says he was a unitarian christian, Zachary Taylor says he was a Episcopalian, Harry Truman says he was a baptist, Martin van Buren says he was Dutch Reformed Christian, and Raputin mentions he was a monk and a healer, I added information about how he claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 16:27, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

A notice can be added on category:christians if you want but if someone were to ask me something all the presidents of the USA had in common I would say they were christians and often had clergy for family members -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 16:37, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Deborah, we are looking for men and women who have lived their lives in an openly Christian manner in words and deeds and would have their actions recognized as such among the broader Christian community. They are examples to be admired and emulated. We are not going to have our list look like WP, where proclamation alone equates to inclusion, especially where there is political or financial gain involved. Nor are we going to have a list of people who were on a church roll during a time where such an action was a mere formality. If you have further questions in this area, then you should discuss it with me first before putting back people who have been removed. Thank you Learn together 17:01, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Obama has been going to church for 20+ years, I think it is obvious he is Christian, he is simply following a wrong interpretation of Biblical Christianity -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 17:04, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Andrew Press

Andrew Press used to have a fair mount of information for the subject. Why did you delete it all and make it into a broken redirect? DannyRedful 10:30, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

A highschool teacher is not notable enough to have their own article, also somebody deleted it's redirect -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 16:07, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Ah, alright. I'll go throw a delete plate on it, then. DannyRedful 18:01, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Thanks Deborah!!!! I feel welcomed! RichardHawtin 00:44, 20 June 2008 (EDT)


Are all these redirects to the main page really necessary? Jallen 01:16, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

The Main Page is one of the most viewed articles so we need redirects for common misspellings to increase viewership by maybe 10% -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 07:39, 20 June 2008 (EDT)



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as of June 24, 2008

Username Smile - Vandal

Hi Deborah. I started out editing the US VPs and noticed that some vandal with the username "Smile" (figures) placed misinformation, changed who the presidents under who they served, wrote that VP Sherman was the son of William Tecumseh, etc. Other edits of his are classifying Michael Moore as a mammal, Gerald Ford and Clinton as evolutionists, an article on how pimento peppers are tree bark and other nonsense. Time allowing, I will try to correct his stuff one by one. If he isn't blocked yet you may want to. But what I'm really writing about is that his errors, having gone undetected for months (because he only edited obscure pages) reflect badly on the site. Is there a way that you or a bureaucrat can clear the history of these entries so they're not used as fodder by libs? (would also suggest deleting this comment after reading it, for the same reason)--Irpw 09:11, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

He has been blocked since 03:00, 19 December 2007. As for clearing history for the articles that would require deleting the articles then recreating them. This would decrease the number of page views our site by a signifigant amount. The best thing to do I believe is to try to forget about the user-- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 16:27, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Japanese template

Thank you for making that template, Deborah - much appreciated! Arigatou! --JessicaTOhayo gozaimasu! 09:11, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Arguments for God's Existence

Why did you revert my edits? There was nothing incrrect, to the best of my knowledge, in there. NosnhoJE 20:20, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

See the talk page for that article, I read a book on arguments for the existence of God and you made many errors -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 20:22, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

I beg to differ, but I will take further discussion to that article's talk page. NosnhoJE 20:30, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Maybe a strange font

Deborah, can your browser display any of the edits or new pages by user:TrTran? Mine can't, so I blocked him to be safe. --Ed Poor Talk 17:22, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

I think, he was typing in an another language, because my browser showed squares which it is does for non-latin alaphabets -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) 17:27, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

Please give him good guidance. --Ed Poor Talk 17:32, 10 July 2008 (EDT)


Thanks for the unblock! I didn't think anyone would have noticed. Fantasia 19:41, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

edit counter

I noticed the mention of the editcounter at User:Deborah/wikilinking... is that the main one that Conservapedia still uses? That's my site, if it's still useful, I can see if I can get it working again. --Interiot 15:00, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

That is the one that Conservapedia still uses, and it broke after Conservapedia got an update -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) email me 15:04, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Sure thing, I'll work on it when I get some time.
I have a request as well. Conservapedia:User rights is protected, but all of the "listed here" links are broken. They probably broke when MediaWiki was upgraded. If they're changed to a URL like this, they'll probably survive all future upgrades:
--Interiot 15:44, 14 July 2008 (EDT)

Edit summaries

Deborah, when you make a series of edits like this one, it would help reviewers like me if you would supply an edit summary. Could you even drag and drop the cat tag into the summary? --Ed Poor Talk 19:39, 15 July 2008 (EDT)


Hello Deborah, how do I get involved in your project? PamAyers 19:08, 28 July 2008 (EDT)

Liberal Myths Edits

I have a problem with your reversion of my edits without comment. I put my suggestions and supporting statements out there and waited a full day for comments before applying them, and then you took it upon yourself to revert them without a word of explanation on the Talk page. If you have an issue with any of them I would expect at least the same courtesy back that I showed in the first place. --DinsdaleP 20:28, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

Wikiproject: Religion

Hi Deborah, I do not know how to edit the page Category:Catholicism. I wanted to add (D) Doctors of the Church. Plus, additional entries. -- 50 star flag.png jp 01:09, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

See [5] -- 50 star flag.png Deborah (contributions) (talk) email me 13:30, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

I figured out how to add to categories, forgive me I am still learning wiki. What is your op on combining categories? For instance, Catholic Church and Catholicism are one and the same. Category Pope or Category Saint is fine but they all belong under either Catholic Church or Catholicism. You are the coding guru, I value your decision. -- 50 star flag.png jp 21:54, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

Hi, I started a discussion over at Magic:The Gathering, and I am not sure how it relates to religion. I was told you added the template, so I have come to ask what your reasoning was for adding the template. JakeM 14:21, 9 September 2008 (EDT)

A favour,please

Hi, Deborah, I wonder if I may please ask you a favour? Simple story is that I need at add some images to the Kamakura article - I have found some that are suitable and available (see links on Talk:Kamakura) but I am unable to upload them. Please may I trouble you to upload them for me, so I can complete the article? Thank you in advance. --KotomiTHajimemashi'te! 07:52, 3 September 2008 (EDT)

Hi again - I do not think you have been around lately, so please do not worry about the above - it has been sorted out. --KotomiTHajimemashi'te! 09:16, 5 September 2008 (EDT)


Seeing as I'm new here, about five days or so, I needed to know: is there a comprehensive list of userboxes? Please post on my talk page, thank you. JY23 18:10, 9 September 2008 (EDT)


Deborah, Thanks for contributing news items. When your suggested news items have been completed, they will be archived under [[Wikiproject:News/Suggestions/Archives#Deborah|your name]] so we can keep the suggestions page clear for new items. --DeanStalk 17:03, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

added atheism template to atheism and Bible article

Thanks. conservative 18:59, 16 August 2010 (EDT)

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