User talk:Fox/Archive1

From Conservapedia

Jump to: navigation, search

Contents

Templates

I have no idea what your project is, but please, let me suggest you need to clear it with more than just one Sysop. Could you contact me and explain? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 07:08, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

That doesn't compute. By checking Special:Wantedpages to ascertain what Conservapedia articles required attention, the need for the template for fair use images was demonstrated. This I duly created; but it also became apparent that there are no tabs being kept on the use of images in Conservapedia, as is required, so I also created a generic license template which will allow the easy creation of tags for all images under all licenses. And while in template creation mode I also added several small templates which will become necessary as time goes on (eg. for producing common fractions). I have no idea what your agenda is, mine is simply to help Conservapedia by applying my expertise to wanted pages. Fox 07:19, 23 May 2007 (EDT)
  • So, by helping, you are excused from the usual human decency of manners and politeness of letting people know that what you made is there, and how it works? That, sir, is my agenda; accountability and knowledge. I am indeed grateful, as I am sure everyone is, for any and all help. However I don't think it too much to ask editors to at least inform someone of what they have done, and why. Is that really something you find onerous? I apologize if you do, but that's the way it is. I posted to you with respect, made a suggestion, and asked you to contact me. I find your defensiveness disturbing. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 07:43, 23 May 2007 (EDT)
Do you leave an article explaining all of your edits and contributions? Does anyone? This, anyhow, would have been clarified in my forthcoming suggestion for a collaborative image attribution project to clear the massive backload of unlicensed, unattributed (and potentially copyright violating) images already uploaded. Being a mere mortal, I could not, however, instantaneously cause all of my intended articles, suggestions and future edits to appear en masse right here and now just to satisfy anyone else's control-freakery. They can only be created organically and following the normal passage of time as required by natural laws. Fox 08:02, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Fox, the feeling seems to be that we don't need to worry about image licencing templates. Editors are trusted to not upload anything they shouldn't, and known copyright breaches have been very few and quickly dealt with once brought to our attention.

If I could suggest something else, many of the templates have no instructions for their use. The help:templates list has very rudimentary instructions for many templates (and barely even that for some), but for many of the templates that's about all there is. Also, some of the templates may be unused and/or not needed—they need a sorting out to see what is required and what should be disposed of. Philip J. Rayment 08:52, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Fox, TK is correct about the need to communicate better. It's not a free-for-all here. Even though I am the most experienced wiki-sysop in this project, I defer on matters like this to TK. Please join me in doing so.
Nonetheless, your two templates are very useful! (I moved Template:Fairuse to Template:Fair use so I would remember how to spell it, and thus use it more frequently.) I've been thinking for a long time about a template for images I've uploaded, that would at least say where I got it from, so people could check whether my use was legitimate - or even find similar images.
Please continue to be bold and jump in with new contributions; you don't have to clear them first. But also take some time to explain what you have done, because it's not always immediately clear to others. --Ed Poor 08:58, 23 May 2007 (EDT)
I will have a read through the templates this evening Philip; thank you for the pointer :) Ed, thank you for the kind comments. I'm always very keen to see correctly licensed images, because that shows a serious attitude on behalf of the contributors and the sysops. It always reflects well to dot the i's and cross the t's :) I understand where you are coming from with regard to the somewhat spikey conversation conducted between TK and myself. I shall take heed of your comments. TK, I'm sure you can understand that your (not necessarily malicious, I appreciate) "blunt" attitude can put newcomers on a defensive footing from the get-go. I accept that we have perhaps set off on the wrong foot, but hope we can pick up a happy collaboration from this point forward. Thank you for the kind welcome heading this page :) Fox 12:07, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Incoming!

I sent you a message. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 06:17, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

Email received and replied. Also, yahoo switched on Fox 06:30, 25 May 2007 (EDT)
I am CPSYOP_TK on Yahoo. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 08:19, 25 May 2007 (EDT)
Found and added Fox 08:39, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

Vandals

Some of these guys are pros at what they do. So we do what we gotta do!--Will N. 12:04, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

The block log isn't showing the IP address as blocked, merely the user. This one is just an amateur - hence recycling variations of the same name. Fox 12:08, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

Hence they change their IP every 30 seconds!!--Will N. 12:10, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

Unless you block the IP address, you won't know that. All that is being blocked at the moment is the user name. Even a dynamic IP address won't change that rapidly, and there are very few ISPs which allow proxy use to override the real IP nowadays Fox 12:12, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

Than please answer this question because I can't: I block the IPs and they keep coming back how the **** and I supposed to stop them?!?!?!?!?!--Will N. 12:14, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

You should be able to look up the IP address - I assume you have checkuser status - and add this into the block log, not just the user name. If the sysops tools are set up slightly different to other wikias, which is possible, check with TK and he will be able to tell you exactly what to do Fox 12:37, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

User:BethanyS

Tisdale.david Checked up on the user page for BethanyS, clearly some sort of adolescent. Therefore, I accept your criticism. I was going by her productivity. On the other hand, racism is racism even when arguably inadvertent. And, if young BS now stops to meditate a trifle before chucking in her next article, I have nothing for which to apologise.the previous unsigned comment was added by User:Tisdale.david

How rude. Fox 12:37, 25 May 2007 (EDT)
My first wikistalker. How gratifying :) Fox 18:04, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

Debate

Fox, You are right. That was not a debate. One side lacked the abiltiy to do so. However, it is germane to the Franklin debate page, is it not? So why revert it?--Jamest 14:01, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

I would much prefer that you outlined your argument on the debate page, without the other party's comments edited within the block of text. The issue is obviously of some considerable importance to you, so I am sure you are able to add a reasoned case to the page, not a rehash of a discussion elsewhere. Sound fair? Fox 14:04, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

C. S. Lewis

The page should be under the title "C. S. Lewis" because this is the form of his name he used himself when publishing his books, and the form by which other writers (biographers, etc) refer to him. It is even the way library catalogs refer to him; for example, a search on my local library for books by "Lewis, Clive Staples" returns:

Lewis Clive Staples 1898 1963 is not used in this library's catalog.
Lewis, C. S. (Clive Staples), 1898-1963 is used instead.

Putting it under the full name is just confusing. Nobody refers to "Thomas Stearnes Eliot" or "Herbert George Wells," either. Dpbsmith 17:32, 26 May 2007 (EDT)

How people refer to him isn't his name, and that is what a redirect page is for. His article should follow his name, and other uses should be created as redirects only. His name was not "C.S.", and he and his family never referred to him so. intelligent redirects allow for confusion and prevent it Fox 17:36, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
No, he should be referred to the same way libraries and standard reference works such as encyclopedias refer to him.
You and I are not his family or his close friends, we are his readers.
And we shouldn't have the famous movie actor under the name Marion Morrison, either. Dpbsmith 17:39, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
Hm, well, my encyclopedias list his full name, as does my local library, along with variations of his name. Anything else is just lazy. Anyway, you do as you please, as the whole concept of redirects seems lost on you Fox 17:42, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
Which encyclopedias are you referring to? Britannica puts his article under the entry "C. S. Lewis." So does the Columbia Encyclopedia. And so does Encarta. They of course give his full name and other forms within the article itself, but the title of the article in each of these sources is C. S. Lewis (Britannica, Encarta) or Lewis, C. S. (The Columbia Encyclopedia). Dpbsmith 21:44, 27 May 2007 (EDT)

Fascinating bit about his childhood: schooling, loss of faith. [1] I'd love to know more things about his life like that. Or can you tell us similar things about Lewis Carroll? --Ed Poor 09:00, 27 May 2007 (EDT)

Hi Ed, yes, Lewis is a great hero of mine, and I hope that within the next few hours I will be able to paint a concise and enlightening pen-portrait of him :) My combined passions of history and literature place mr. carroll high on my "agenda" too ;) Fox 09:04, 27 May 2007 (EDT)

Masterpieces

Hard decision... but you are right!

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 09:37, 27 May 2007 (EDT)


Fine, I agree with you.


--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 13:46, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks JM, and might I add, great work putting up the art. I have a shelfload of really excquisite art I need to scan and upload, too. Fox 13:48, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

Civility

You wrote;

you are like a terrier yapping at the postman and passers-by

Please take a glance at my essay Wikipedia:Avoid personal remarks, which I copied over to Conservapedia. You might want to take back something, you "scurvy dog"! ;-) --Ed Poor 07:09, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

Fascism

Yes, it is. Fascism promotes complete governmental control over all matters, along with a supreme leader, and the preservation of the status quo; all right-wing traits. Conversely, anarchism is tyhe complete lack of a government, "to each his own", an inherently liberal trait. --Ĥøĵĭmåçħôńğtalk 16:21, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

I disagree - and strongly. Your definition is Marxist.
  • American Heritage Dictionary:
    • A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
    • A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
    • Oppressive, dictatorial control.
  • WordNet (Princeton University)
    • a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism)
  • Random House Unabridged Dictionary
    • a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
  • Encarta
    • dictatorial movement: any movement, ideology, or attitude that favors dictatorial government, centralized control of private enterprise, repression of all opposition, and extreme nationalism

Wikipedia may be a dirty word at times, but this article is not. To suddenly decide arbitrarily that fascism can now be defined as the politics of the far-right is staggeringly conceited Fox 16:33, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

RSlicker

Good catch! DanH 17:39, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks :) - I'm working on the Knights Templar article at the moment, and only checking recent changes every 5 mins or so, which is why it survived in the article as long as it did Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 17:41, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

Got'im!

And thanks for your reversions. Philip J. Rayment 11:09, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

NP :) Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 11:10, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
Swat! Another one down! Philip J. Rayment 11:18, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
I feel sorry for people whose lives are so empty and devoid of meaning that they have nothing better to do than destroy other people's good work :/ Makes you wonder about what awful upbringings they must have had. Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 11:21, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Not sure what you mean

I'm not sure what you mean by sock or copy. But the topic has been debated over a few weeks. I see nothing wrong with posting it, unless you can cite a rule that forbids it.--McIntyre 11:35, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Fox, I'm getting the question resolved. I'll let you know shortly Karajou 12:09, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Chip Shop

Hi Fox I noticed that you removed almost all the content from Chip Shop, claiming it was inaccurate. I was almost on the point of reporting you to a Sysop for vandalism, when Philip seems to have done some re-editing. What was wrong with it? I didn't contribute to it, but I had looked at it several times, and I thought it was OK. I think it was written whe a lot of articles were boing done on British Working class culture; it seemed a bit "off the wall", and unencyclopedic, but as for inaccurate, I am not sure. I'd want to review this. --AvengingAngel 12:37, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

There have been a number of vandals doing subtle vandalism, writing things that could be true but aren't. Now I don't know if this is an example or not, and I wondered myself if Fox knew for sure. However, Fox has made many good contributions, so this is definitely not vandalism, even if he is incorrect in claiming that was inaccurate. Looking at what he took out, many of the individual dishes the article described are quite reasonable (I'm familiar with quite a few myself), but whether or not the claims about where the variations exist, for example, are correct, I wouldn't know, and certainly the way it was written was not appropriate. For those reasons, I decided to simply accept his deletions, although I would myself be curious as to how certain he is or how he knows. Philip J. Rayment 12:42, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
The article is written to poke fun at Conservapedia and Conservapedians; the inaccuracies and innuendoes are subtle, and the aim is that they will be missed for what they are while the perpetrators snigger about their little prank and just how ignorant and gullible everybody at CP is. Scones are not battered potatoes. "Up market" establishments? Selling kebabs? Of course. How silly of me to think otherwise. I hear McDonalds now offer haute cuisine, too, in their Michelin rated establishments. "Many different styles and blends... all taste remarkably similar..." "Chip sauce... closely guarded centuries old..." "Health conscious multi-cultural delights..." "Mushy pea debate..." "four of fish and finger pie"? Blatant slang sexual metaphor. "Only place in the UK where mayonnaise..." Apart from every other chip shop, that is. Chinese-Italian chippy in Pompey? Hm, call me jimmy Hill 'cos I'm growing a beard... I'd be seriously concerned about the seriousness of anybody trying to defend this article in its current state. Maybe they would also like to defend the inclusion of "cumbernauld/chanty wrassling" in the Wrestling article... Sir John Betjeman being born in the fictional town of Melchester... (and being greatly influenced bt McGonnagal, too, eh, Ulysses?) ... How about Gordon Bowie? From Fulchester?... Or the wonderful article about Chutney Ferret - pity it didn't reference this... I stand by my edit, and any further edits I might make to articles about Britain. I grew up here, I know what I'm talking about ;) Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 15:26, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
Just a few more examples that brief perusal highlighted as more of the same junk inserted by the same clicque:

There are almost certainly hundreds more articles like these, containing deliberate errors and mockery of CP. How about the reference to "local boy made good Tommy Toley"... slang for faeces. I'm actually really surprised at how much rubbish these people managed to put into CP :( Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 17:39, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Just had a look at some of this list apropos of the conversation around Chip Shop. Some of the information you removed from the Magnus Magnusson article was both true and, after a quick Google, verifyable. I've added it back in with a proper link. Fingermouse 08:49, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Good, its nice to see people making verifiable edits for a change. lulz! Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 08:50, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
How's the weather in Hebden Bridge today, by the way? Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 08:53, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Overzealous edits

You may think you have found a misiion on CP, but I ask you to please restrain yourself. I have, for example, just reverted your redirect on Spanish Inquisition. The link from the Monty Python page linked to the wrong one. If you wanted to do this properly, then you should ahve created a disambiguation page. AFAIK, these pages have been in existence for some time. I was intending to write a piece on the Cheese Shpm Sketch, and I just checked the links to the other Monty Python stuff. User:InnocentAbroad

Then merge that piece of trivia with the article concerned. Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 19:00, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
Incidentally, how is the weather in wales at the moment? Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 19:20, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Meanwhile, at cabal HQ...

CatWatcher
Joined: 27 May 2007
Posts: 11
Location: Wales
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: Who is Fox...
Fox seems to be on a rampage to remove all traces of humour out of CP - even the bits that are true. He has mangled a lot of the Scottish stuff, and obviously knows where to look, as he is very specifically targetting articles.
Who has been loose tongued around here?

CatWatcher

Joined: 27 May 2007
Posts: 11
Location: Wales
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject: CP IP addresses
Be warned. all you subtle vandals
Sysops are now hunting down multiple socks on shared IP addresses, so you had better get one sock per proxy.

CatWatcher


Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:09 am Post subject: Socks
Yeah, you can't really tell anything from the number of editors, except (read on): I have five currently active socks that have been in existence for some time, and that I have I have used to make edits in the past week, some quite substantial. I have about another five, possibly six, inactive socks, which have made at least one edit, but then disappeared, and I have another 10 inactive socks, ones that are logged on and have never made any edits. There are also those which I created when CatWatcher was banned, which I have now forgotten. They were all anagrams, like CatchWater, CawChatter etc. there was a lot of them that I did via random proxies; Ive forgotten their names; the obvious ones got zapped right away. In addition, my friend SeanTheSheep did the same thing when he got blocked, using ShaunTheSheep, SeanSheeply etc. There may be a few of these still around - I have never attempted to use these for anything other but arguing with TK or Ed Poor - they just get zapped on sight. [I am also responsible, in one night, for pushing up the username count by 30+, when I really got pxxxxx off by Ed Poor, and started creating usernames like xxxxxxxxxxxxx I recommend the therapy; it was excellent catharsis. My guess is, that if you add that lot up, I have getting on for around 20+ 'live' socks. and in all am responsible for over 50 usernames, with around 30 blockings. If I am typical (and I know of a few others who are in the same business), you only need 5 actual users to log up more than 100 editors (who are all potential vandals, trolls, spoofers and miscreants). Now compare that to the genuine editors, and their claims don't look that great do they? My guess is that fewer than 5% of the editors are Pro-CP.

CatWatcher


Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 19:20, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

And…? --ExecutableMandlebrot 22:48, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
And... get over it. You were banned from CP, why do you feel the need to keep coming back here and demonstrating this multiple-personality disorder?
Because of moments like this… priceless. Well, I have other reasons, but this is one of them :). --ExecutableMandlebrot 20:44, 1 June 2007 (EDT)


...it shows what we are up against, and why we have been so aggressive at blocking people. And it makes you wonder why they don't spend their energies doing something more productive. Maybe they don't like the truth to be heard. Philip J. Rayment 23:15, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

[[2]]

Alba

If this is the case, then he/she gets banned. Karajou 09:29, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

The IP address is the only way of determining this, but a Ratwiki sock usually uses a proxy. However, having had an enjoyable read of their Information Warrior's Handbook this morning, there is cause for concern that they are merely attempting to draw an argument. The use of region vs county is not that significant in context, and ideal for trolling. Alban took similar offence over other edits, and it is interesting to note that Ratwiki users have this morning been taking a keen interest in articles I have edited or marked for deletion Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 09:32, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

This feels like a witch-hunt. The edit was case of accuracy. A county is a very different thing to a region. I am not trolling; I want it to be right: and I appended (in discussion) arguments pro and anti the statement that Newcastle is part of the county. Look at my contributions to this site: I have put in hard work on a number of significant topics, particularly relating to Chinese history. I have never heard of RatWiki or of any poster called Alban, nor have I heard of the Information Warrior's Handbook. If you are tempted to block, Karajou, I ask you to confer with other sysops first rather than take the word of Fox, who seems to be prejudiced against me without any justification that I can make out. Alba 09:39, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Where is Alba from?
Alba - Your parody articles earlier in the history of this sock - eg Dirk, Edinburgh, Transport Cafe - gave you away. You should follow CatWatcher's advice and change a clean sock into a dirty one, not vice versa. Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 09:43, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
Karajou, I am from NE England. Dirk was a perfectly accurate, if inconsequential, piece. Any edits to the cafe article were accurate in the context of another light-hearted piece (and I notice that Fox has eliminated a link to a useful thread on the design and cultural history of the Anglo-Italian cafe). I have no memory of adding any comments to Edinburgh: I hope that Fox will enlighten me, if he/she can. Alba 09:50, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
You are a sockpuppet. End of discussion. Bye bye :) Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 09:52, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
I did an IP check of both Alba and Alban. Alba's IP traces to a point near York, England, plus or minus 20 miles; Alban's IP traced to Dallas, Texas. If you please, hold off on the block; I'm not convinced at this time that Alba meant any harm. Karajou 09:57, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
See the differences I posted on your talk page. The Edinburgh edit is the smoking gun lol Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 09:58, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

WWII revert

In reverting the vandalism on the WWII page, it looks like you also reverted some good changes. The treatty between Germany and the USSR was a Non-Aggression Pact, not an Alliance; Burma was not a US possession; and you reverted to a couple of misspellings further down the page. I will attempt to correct these. Let me know if you have any problems with the edits. Boomcoach 11:22, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

My reversion was to undo the assertion that the Nagasaki bomb fell on Myanmar. As is my policy, if an edit contains multiple adjustments but a single one is a deliberate falsehood, I revert the entire edit. Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 11:25, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
That makes sense. Boomcoach 12:02, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Hezbollah

Fox, I have a request. Would you be so kind to review Hezbollah, we may have some probelmatic editing and sources in that article. Tell me what you think. Thank you. RobS 22:12, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Looks much better. Can you give us a brief analysis of the link the original poster gave us? We'd like to be on the watch for these things. Thank you. RobS 10:21, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

User Page

Hey why don't you fix your use page up? It looked great before.--Will N. 11:16, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

Taxonomy template

Fox, if you make changes to templates, as you did with {{taxonomy}}, please update the documentation of that template (on the same page), and in the template list where appropriate (In the case of {{taxonomy}}, the former is required, but the latter is not).

However, do we want the name to always be the same as the page name? In homo sapiens, for example, the name at the top of the box was "Human", not "homo sapiens", and I figure most other articles would not be the scientific name either, although most would not have the scientific name as the page name.

A way around this (which I'm sure would work, but haven't tested), is to use the code {{{name|{{{PAGENAME}}}}}, which should use the term supplied in the "name" parameter if it is provided, but default to the page name if not.

Philip J. Rayment 18:33, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Late

You were almost exactly 24 hours too late in finding that one. Are you ok? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 07:56, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

Oops - sorry, Shabbat kept me lazily and enjoyably occupied with family and away from the PC :D But I'll be in full prowl mode after sunset today Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 08:07, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

Pictures....

I guess you could tell I am not a slave to convention where size is concerned, eh? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 08:11, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Chutney Ferret

Is this something that can be salvaged, or is it just trash? Bohdan 19:34, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Its been handled. Thanks for alerting. Bohdan 19:46, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Restored

Fox, your account has been unblocked. Thanks for your insight about Joseph Kennedy Sr.--Aschlafly 11:32, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Liverpool

I was largely referring to the deletion of Tate Modern (strictly Tate Liverpool although it is the northern venue for the modern art collection), Edwina Curry is as notable as any others on the list and MelC is probably better known to the younger generation - but that was an addition not a restoration. Try not to be so defensive, I wasn't having a go at you, you've been doing sterling work so far. MadMin 19:06, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

Palestinian Arabs

Fox, can you have a look at Palestinian Arabs. Thanks. RobS 12:40, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

Does any of it need to be fixed? RobS 13:50, 16 June 2007 (EDT)
Thanks. RobS 14:10, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

Valentina Tereshkova

So sorry. I could not access her name at the Main page. (to make an internal link as you wish) User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 18:08, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

No problem, JM, TerryH has done it now, but thank you very much for trying! :D Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 18:10, 16 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Worked fine for me, Joaquin and Fox....--Sysop-TK /MyTalk 19:20, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

IRA funding

My edit, whilst true and relevant, might also be a little provocative. Thanks for the extra cite. The response will be interesting. Ferret 22:08, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

How is it provocative at all? Bohdan 22:41, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

Stop it

Kindly refrain from vandalising some of the pages before I report you to Schalfly, Chenianay —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Juxtaposed (talk)

Go ahead and report me :D What planet are you living on exactly?? Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 12:01, 18 June 2007 (EDT)

Ah, another socktroll. Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 13:14, 18 June 2007 (EDT)

FamDaff

You may want to double-check that advertisement he included in his user page. It appears to be his family website to me. Karajou 13:52, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

Doesn't belong in Main Space :) Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 13:53, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

Joke

Will, you deleted the comment before I could post this reply to him, but its too good to waste so you'll have to read it here:

An archaeologist was digging in the Negev Desert in Israel and came upon a casket containing a mummy, a rather rare occurance in Israel, to say the least. After examining it, he called the curator of the Israel museum in Jerusalem.

"I've just discovered a 3,000 year old mummy of a man who died of heart failure!" the excited scientist exclaimed.

To which the curator replied, "Bring him in. We'll check it out."

A week later, the amazed curator called the archaeologist. "You were right about both the mummy's age and cause of death. How in the world did you know?"

"Easy. There was a piece of paper in his hand that said, '10,000 Shekels on Goliath'."

Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 14:26, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

Thats a really good one!!--Will N. 14:31, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

That's a great joke, Fox!!! Thanks.
By the way, I recently learned by writing cremation that traditional Judaism has always prohibited mummification ... and cremation. So a find of a mummy in Israel would be rare indeed!--Aschlafly 15:50, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

"Robert MacLean" entry

Fox, Understandably you deleted a post that is also in Wikipedia - if you check the history - I was the one who wrote it. The entry is very informative, well sourced, and balanced.

Inmidata (Aaron)

See your talk page for reply :) Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 12:27, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Templates?

Just wondering if you know anything about templates...I have a question for someone who does. Thanks. DeborahB. 13:24, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Maybe I should have said pre-made "Category" templates. Any better on those? DeborahB. 13:28, 20 June 2007 (EDT)
My problem is this...I'm trying to add to the Economic terms. The link to the page is Economics. (click the Economics link at the bottom of the page). Try clicking the edit button at the top of the page. From there I don't know how to 1. find the actual category template, and 2. add to it.
Thanks for taking the time to help! DeborahB. 13:42, 20 June 2007 (EDT)
  • That's perfect...thanks a lot! I'm just going to create a new Economics glossary page, because the current one (the one I needed help editing) is way too hard for normal people who don't know how to edit pre-made categories to add to. So thanks! DeborahB. 14:05, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Snare

No he is just being stupid. I will give him a chance.--Will N. 13:36, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Never mind I feel like unleashing my wrath.--Will N. 13:37, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Freedom

Please message me, or take a look, ok? Your contributions are invited. :-) --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 22:36, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Will do. Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 09:08, 21 June 2007 (EDT)


Aristotle

You just undid my change on the Aristotle article. I changed "not a theist" to "an atheist". I don't see how Aristotle's atheism denies a possible deistic belief - the article itself explains that this belief of his is extrapolated from his postulation of the Unmoved Mover. Can you further explain why you think that a negative phrasing (was not X, rather than was Y, a positive one) is necessary in this context? It's frustrating to have my first real contribution quashed in such a way. Aristotle 12:38, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Stop pushing an atheistic agenda. The phrasing was just fine before you altered it. Your definitions are wrong if you think that atheism does not prevent deism:
  • Deism - the belief in the existence of one God or supreme being founded on human reason and observation of the natural world
  • Atheism - affirmation of the nonexistence of gods or rejection of theism
Don't come trolling on my talk page, go back to RW. Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 12:47, 23 June 2007 (EDT)
Whoa, I wasn't trying to troll on something, I was just trying to improve Conservapedia's grammatical style! Besides, in Aristotelian philosophy, as supported by Christian descriptions of God, God is the Actus Purus - pure actuality. In the "Metaphysics" he takes the stand that the actual is of its nature antecedent to the potential, that consequently, before all matter, and all composition of matter and form, of potentiality and actuality, there must have existed a being who is pure actuality. Thus his philosophies supported deism without his personal disbelief being a problem. I don't care to promote atheism, by the way, it just happens to be in the way of this disagreement, and I just want to improve something, ever so slightly. Can you just assume for a minute that I'm not some evil creature coming only to provoke you? It's not like I violated any of those Commandments. By the way, what does RW stand for? I haven't seen that acronym before. Aristotle 13:11, 23 June 2007 (EDT)
Nice cut'n'paste from [3]. The point is, he did not conclusively reject theism nor did he deny the existence of God, so to label him as "atheist" is therefore misleading. Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 13:40, 23 June 2007 (EDT)
It's phrased perfectly for my point, and for the record, I wrote the original version of that sentence. Nice job with an ad hominem there. Besides, your alternative is just as bad - he did not believe in a god, but saying that he is "not a theist" implies the same. I can't believe that I have had this argument... pff Conservapedia is full of whiny bigots who can't deal with the fact that Wikipedia has bested them and won't enshrine their misguided ideas. I'm tired of arguing, I'll go back to Wikipedia where I can actually contribute. Aristotle 15:11, 23 June 2007 (EDT)
Bye bye sock :) Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 16:07, 23 June 2007 (EDT)


Emails

Thanks for the emails and IMs some of you sent me yesterday. In particular, thank you to the person I rambled on a bit to, whose reasoning persuaded me that we need to build this online resource more than ever, regardless of the obstacles. I missed you too lol ;) Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 11:50, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

What a happy surprise it was to log on this morning and see that you have returned! :) Welcome back! --Taj 11:55, 23 June 2007 (EDT)
Many thanks, Tasha ;) You just brightened the rest of my weekend :D Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 12:06, 23 June 2007 (EDT)
Welcome back and peace to you as you continue to assist with the overall Conservapedia project. Learn together 00:52, 24 June 2007 (EDT)
Thanks LT :) Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 21:50, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

This week's joke

A Texan, a Frenchman and an Israeli are on a plane flying over the Pacific Ocean when the engines stop functioning. The plane crash lands on a Pacific Island and the 3 are immediately captured by a tribe of cannibals and taken to their village. The Chief tells the 3 captives that these cannibals are civilized and they have a custom on their island that before they eat anyone, they grant that person his or her last wishes, no matter what they are.

He asks the Texan, "What is your last wish?"

The Texan replies: "I want a 2 inch thick steak with all the trimmings, Cajun fries and a case of Bud." The Chief motions to some of his tribesmen who immediately run into the jungle and come back with the steak, the fries and the beer. The Texan eats his meal and he is thrown in the pot.

The Frenchman is asked: "What is your last wish?" He replies: "I'd like a case of Dom Perignon and I'd also like a big plate of escargots cooked in the French manner." The Chief motions to his tribesmen who immediately rush off into the jungle and bring back everything the Frenchman asked for. He eats and drinks his fill, and he is then thrown in the pot.

The Chief turns to the Israeli and asks, "And what is your wish?" The Israeli looks the Chief squarely in the eyes and replies: "I want you to kick me in the behind as hard as you can." The Chief is bewildered and asks the Israeli again, only to receive the same reply. "I want you to kick me in the behind as hard as you can."

The Chief shrugs his shoulders, asks the Israeli to turn around, and kicks him as hard as he can. With that the Israeli pulls out a gun and kills the Chief and all of the other cannibals.

The Texan and the Frenchman get out of the pot, look at the Israeli and say: "If you had that gun why didn't you do anything sooner?"

The Israeli replies: "What? And risk being condemned by the UN, EU and the State Department for 'overreacting' to insufficient provocation?"

  • HAHAHAHAHA! Good one! Bohdan 19:02, 23 June 2007 (EDT)
P So, I missed the email saying you were still here? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 01:00, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Hey

I'm sorry, this may be slightly off topic to Conservapedia, but are you from Britain or the USA? previous unsigned comment added by User:ShaneWarne

I'm originally from neither, have lived in both, and, for this year, am living in England. :) Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 21:20, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Ah ok, cheers previous unsigned comment added by User:ShaneWarne


Your edits

Fox, thank you for going through and cleaning up all the trash left behind by those British parodists. Is it: תּוֹדָה? Bohdan 21:34, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

No problem, Bohdan - I actually get some amusement out of reading the spoofs before I delete them - they are very cleverly done. "The Ball of Kirriemuir", for example, is one of the filthiest songs you can imagine, and the absolute opposite of "celebrating the beauty and virtue of Scottish womanhood."
And yes, it is todah :) Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 21:44, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Cheers for your contribution to the Socialism article

The picture you found and posted in place of the old one is great. Thank you for taking the time to amend that. I really did not want to compromise on that, however being new I did not wish to come off too aggressive. Here's to hoping the new graphic sticks! Good edit and thank you! =) Jros83 13:52, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

  • If new, and "wondering" simply make contact with a Admin or two, and ask. Solves lots of mis-read intentions. Fox will speak to that being key.  ;-) --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 14:11, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Another Vandal

HalifaxTroll Guitarplayer 18:24, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Articles

Hey fox could you check up on the folllowing articles to check their credibilty:

Football "Uncyclopedia" Guitars

Thanx User:ShaneWarne

They all look fine. Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 13:06, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

KwaSizabantu Mission

Parody? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 20:15, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

Ahhh...Dr Manto Tshabalala-Msimang, a fine and reputed medical expert known for her....novel views on curing AIDS by simply eating garlic, beets and potatoes. An excellent source to back up the curative claims of this mission. Well done, Fox! Guitarplayer 20:46, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Guitar..you saw my post above...and posted anyway? Surely you know you don't want my attention, right?  :O --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 20:56, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

Promoted to Block Privileges

Fox, I just promoted you to "block" privileges. That means when you see a vandal, please block him immediately. You can always undo a block later if you change your mind. Vandals are usually blocked for infinite duration. Thanks much.--Aschlafly 01:29, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

Welcome to the vandal minimisation team! Niandra talk 01:56, 27 June 2007 (EDT)
Thanks, Andy - I hope I won't have to use it too often, but it will certainly come in handy at certain times of the day lol :D And thanks Niandra - I'll keep my eyes peeled (as Shaw Taylor used to say) :D Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 04:20, 27 June 2007 (EDT)
  •  ;-)
Congrats Fox. Good job. RobS 09:52, 28 June 2007 (EDT)
TY :) Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 10:00, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

Bell Curve

You're right. My apologies. --PF Fox 09:49, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

RE: Socialism page.. again...

It seems the page was reverted once again to marx/Engles/Lenin/Stalin, and then has been locked to further edits. I don't know about you but I personally feel, that such an action is ridiculous. I'm starting to understand certain criticisms of CP. Not necesarily reflecting them, but understanding why... Jros83 19:05, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

Great Job

Good work on cleaning up after the vandal attack. Geo.Complain! 17:00, 29 June 2007 (EDT)

Thnx. I like to keep a tidy house ;) Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 17:01, 29 June 2007 (EDT)

Michael Woodley

I honestly thought that the capacity for including details otherwise unavailable in smaller paper encyclopedias were the great strength of wikis like these. This is notable in its relation to the Jim Gilchrist riots at columbia in 2006. After all, Woodley's career and strength as one of the very, very few conservatives making his way through the intensely liberalized atmosphere of Columbia University adds a dimension of color to an otherwise bland story. unsigned comment added by User:Scramble 09:56, 1 July 2007 (EDT)

There were no allusions to Gilchrist in the article you posted; as I've said on your talk page, I'm not entirely convinced the article isn't simply a subtle attack page on Woodley Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 09:56, 1 July 2007 (EDT)
It's not -- I'm sorry for the confusion, I'm still a bit new to adding things. I've attempted to touch it up in process. You speak as if perhaps you know him?--Scramble 10:15, 1 July 2007 (EDT)
I know of him, I've never met him. Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 10:18, 1 July 2007 (EDT)
Ah, and I wasn't sure what you meant by attack, to that end; I certainly wasn't poking fun at him, he's a dear friend. Nianda mentioned that you don't take unsourced biogs, so I assume asking him to contribute directly would be useless. Should I attempt to crop together something just from the Blue&White alone or are other web sources allowed? --Scramble 10:23, 1 July 2007 (EDT)
on a separate but related note, ID verification would be a fantastic tool for this.
The Blue and White is probably acceptable, so long as you only reference non-parodic articles therein; the Bwog would be a no-no. 10:28, 1 July 2007 (EDT)

Even blocked self

Even blocked yourself? How did you manage that??

Actually, your block record looks interesting; I doubt any others here have a 100% record of having this many blocks made accidentally or reconsidered!

Philip J. Rayment 09:28, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

Its a knack, Philip :D I blocked myself by hitting the block button after undoing the vandalism diff, instead of before as I usually do - so my name was the one in the frame :) Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 09:31, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

PF Fox

Fox, you discussion with TK regarding the blocking of PF Fox appears to non-transparent. I have sent a communication to TK regarding this matter and have not recieved a response yet, however I beleive TK overstepped the bounds here and acted unilaterally without discussion on the matter. There was very little consultation, and he appears to have jumped the gun, if there was even a gun jump in this matter. I am going to undo the block, unless you wish to. Thank you. RobS 13:01, 3 July 2007 (EDT)

There is precedent for blocking like that. We don't have an arbitration committee. Rather, sysops are trusted to use their blocking power wisely.
In case of error, the blocked party can appeal.
More likely, in case of repentance, the blocked party can apologize.
This is an encyclopedia, not a debate forum. We want the quite, studious atmosphere of a college library or a research laboratory. It's not a pub or a café. --Ed Poor Talk 13:07, 3 July 2007 (EDT)
I believe this was all due to Pamela Troy/PF Fox's numerous online articles mocking CP Image:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 13:15, 3 July 2007 (EDT)
Retrieved from "http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Fox/Archive1"
Personal tools