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Contents 1 Template list 2 army 3 Moving 4 Contest 5 Vandal 6 Leviticus 7 Hijacking 8 Navboxes 9 Copyright of state government materials 10 Images 11 Idea 12 Breast Exam 13 Talk:Kent 14 Request 15 Templates 16 Language 17 Request 18 thank you very much and a request 19 Maybe 20 Nasty Crack 21 Contest 22 Winners 23 About Venezuela 24 I would appreciate your support

Template list

You've made a couple of new templates that you've done a good job of providing documentation for, but which I don't think you've added to the template list. Is that correct? Philip J. Rayment 09:11, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

Yes, sorry; updated list now Fox (talk|contribs) 07:26, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

So, you are sticking with your {{Prime Minister}} template. I don't see the point of two different ones. How do we decide which to keep and which to ditch? Philip J. Rayment

I'd started the Prime Minister one, hacking the President template, without realising you were also making one :/ I like the layout of {{Prime Minister}}, particularly as it is uniform with {{President}} but it needs to have its innards chopped out to remove Vice President, although I had been thinking what other positions could be used there instead - deputy PM? Chancellor? - or similar. I put it all on the backburner while the contest was on though :( Fox (talk|contribs) 08:12, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

I prefer the coding of {{PM}} over {{Prime Minister}}, but I've no preference as far as appearance is concerned.

I'm not sure that Deputy PM is as relevant as Vice President. In Australia, at the moment at least, the Treasurer seems to be the next most important person after the PM; you hardly hear boo from the Deputy PM, but that might well be due to the coalition arrangement in force, I guess. I think I'd be happy to not show any category for a second person.

An advantage of {{PM}} is that the term and succession details are separate and there can be unlimited multiples very simply, which I don't think President nor Prime Minister cater for.

Philip J. Rayment 08:49, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

{{Clade}} remains undocumented. Philip J. Rayment 10:03, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

army

Fox, should we link to the US army on the army page? Do you think it is wise and/or feasible to add a list of armies to the army article? And congratulations on your sysopship. Bohdan 17:06, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks :) Hm, yes, a linking list of armies with their own articles would be a good idea, I think. There aren't a great many of note that are worth writing about, but those that are deserve their own article, and have sufficient differences in organization, culture, equipment and so on. Fox (talk|contribs) 17:08, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

When I said a "list of armies" I meant like this list here: [1]. Bohdan 17:10, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

That looks fine, except the individual branches of the US Army should be placed as sub headings on the list, eg:

• British Army
• United States army
  • United States Army Signal Corps

Fox (talk|contribs) 17:16, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

Egad, that looks complicated. Should I embark on this, or you? Bohdan 17:17, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

I don't mind :) I'll add a few now to see how it goes Fox (talk|contribs) 08:12, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

Moving

I guess I'll start moving all the ship pages...just a few questions. First, all we're doing it going to the page and pressing the "Move" button, then renaming it? And second, the "AM-136" numbers (obviously they're not all the same)...where are you getting them from? Thanks! DeborahB. 19:33, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

Hi :) The new names are on the lists Mtur drew up here; copy the new name, click on the original article, then Move, then paste the new name in the Move box. Fox (talk|contribs) 19:36, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

Thank you for acting on moving these pages. I do know it is a significant amount of work to fix. I hope that going forward that these pages are correctly named so this doesn't need to be revisited. --Mtur 20:39, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

Contest

Sorry, I haven't been contributing much lately. I've been very busy with work, family issues and Toastmasters. I would appreciate your input on the new section at the Team 1 contest page. --Crocoite 12:25, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks to your work Team 2 is not too far from us. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 06:39, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

I dont find word how to tell you what a good work. If I were a Judge I will give you the first place in the contest. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 19:09, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks :) I think Andy has the most articles though :/ We've still got a few hours though ;) Fox (talk|contribs) 19:19, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Vandal

I can't believe it!! It took me a while to catch on...at first I thought it was a good editor who was interested in doing edits...but then I looked carefully and noticed that he wasn't fixing them, he was messing them up. My question is how was he doing it so quickly? DeborahB. 19:07, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

It wasnt a person - it was a bot. Fox (talk|contribs) 19:08, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

What?!?!? That's crazy! I wondering how it was going to fast! But I have ask...what's a bot? :) lol...it sounds bad :) And about putting all my rollbacks on my contest page...that's what I thought, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks for the response! DeborahB. 19:37, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

Bot is short for robot; its a software program designed to access the pages and alter set words for something else - "is" to "was", "conservative" to "liberal" etc. It can go as fast as the CP server feeds it pages :/ Fox (talk|contribs) 19:45, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

Wow...well at least it was stopped before it messed up even more pages! DeborahB. 19:52, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

Leviticus

1 Corinthians 10:23-26, in which Paul directs followers to "eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience"

Leviticus 11:9-11 " 'Of all the creatures living in the water of the seas and the streams, you may eat any that have fins and scales. But all creatures in the seas or streams that do not have fins and scales—whether among all the swarming things or among all the other living creatures in the water—you are to detest. And since you are to detest them, you must not eat their meat and you must detest their carcasses. Anything living in the water that does not have fins and scales is to be detestable to you. SquashMonster 18:41, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

Careful exegesis of that entire section of Scripture reveals the issue to be different from what you seem to be assuming: in 1 Corinthians 8 Rabbi Shaul is discussing "the eating of things offered to idols" This is because meat was often sacrificed on pagan altars and dedicated to pagan gods, then later this same meat was offered for sale in the public meat markets. Some Christians wondered if it were morally right for Christians to eat such meat that had previously been sacrificed to pagan gods. Instead, the controversy dealt with the conscience of each believer. Rabbi Shaul explained that "an idol is nothing" (1 Corinthians 8:4), clarifying that it was permissible to eat meats that had been sacrificed to an idol. That an animal had been sacrificed to a pagan god had no bearing on whether the meat was suitable for food. Rabbi Shaul continued: "However, there is not in everyone that knowledge; for some, with consciousness of the idol, until now eat it as a thing offered to an idol; and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. But food does not commend us to G-d; for neither if we eat are we the better, nor if we do not eat are we the worse" (verses 7-8). When a believer bought meat in the market or was invited to a meal at which meat was served, it was not necessary to determine whether anyone had offered it to an idol, said Shaul (1 Corinthians 10:25-27). His concern was that the brethren be considerate of others who believed differently. He taught that in such cases it was better for them not to eat meat than to risk causing offense (1 Corinthians 8:13; 10:28). The question of meat sacrificed to idols was a considerable controversy in New Testament times. It is the foundation of many of Rabbi Saul’s discussions of Christian liberty and conscience. Unlike G-d’s law of clean and unclean animals, which was straightforwardly recorded in the Tanakh, the Hebrew Scriptures do not discuss the matter of food offered to idols. But, in the first-century world of the New Testament, this issue varied in significance and importance to members according to their conscience and understanding. Fox (talk|contribs) 18:53, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

Hijacking

So you finally got to use that first hijacking item in the Today in history section! But you left the commented-out version in the page! Philip J. Rayment 05:13, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

lol - distracted by removing my other typos :/ I am human, alas, all too human :P Fox (talk|contribs) 05:20, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Human? I thought you were canine! Philip J. Rayment 06:26, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

:D Fox (talk|contribs) 06:29, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

• I am merely happy that he isn't a (sub)Human! :p --Sysop-TK _/MyTalk 06:52, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Navboxes

Fox, I am short of time at the moment but on the following locked pages perhaps you'd like to add {{USPresidents}} and/or {{USVicePresidents}} (as appropriate) at the bottom of

Richard Nixon

Ronald Reagan

George H. W. Bush

George W. Bush

Dick Cheney

BrianCo 13:11, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

NP, I'll do that Fox (talk|contribs) 13:11, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Copyright of state government materials

The matter I e-mailed you about is at User talk:Aschlafly#Copyright of state government materials. I didn't mean to cause a commotion over all of this; I just wanted to make sure things got done right so there's no headaches later, you know? AManInBlack 15:11, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

You emailed me? I haven't received anything. Fox (talk|contribs) 15:12, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Oh, DUH. It was Crocoite, not you. Lalala, don't mind me. AManInBlack 15:27, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Images

There are several images I want to upload for some articles - How can I do so?
NewYork1956 18:45, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Idea

Hey Fox, do you have any desire to write about Aliyah? You would be able to get the best sources. Bohdan 19:34, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Sure, but thats a heavyweight article; I'll start it after midnight ;) Fox (talk|contribs) 19:36, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

After reading this, I felt I had to ask you. Bohdan 19:38, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Breast Exam

Fox, why do you keep undoing my additions [2] to this article. Alll the facts are well-known and fully authenticated over in the Abortion article? I think it's important that women know not only what a breast exam is, but why they should go for one - and what makes them more susceptible to a cancer. Maybe you'd like to explain your undoing, and now blocking of this article? DoggerelBank 21:24, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

The article is about breast examination; it is not specifically about Gynecology or Oncology. The article as last edited by Aschlafly seems more than adequate. I blocked it to prevent your reversion of my edits. Fox (talk|contribs) 21:29, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Well, what on earth are they examining FOR? The article makes absolutely no reference to cancer, but merely mentions 'abnormalities' and 'early detection'. Detection of what?!!! What is the PURPOSE of this procedure, but to identify possible cancers? And meanwhile, the Abortion article establishes that it causes breast cancers, but doesn't link to this article, i.e. tell a woman what to do about it? DoggerelBank 21:32, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

You don't seem so keen to add:

• Heredity
• Diet
• Alcohol
• Obesity
• Hormones
• Tobacco
• Radiation exposure
• Environmental estrogenic mimics
• Dioxins
• Deodorants
• Fertility treatments
• Phytoestrogens

I take it that you have an agenda all of your own, in that case. And its not necessarily a good one Fox (talk|contribs) 21:36, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

• Doggerel, I agree with Fox 100%. Time for you to move on to other valuable contributions, as I know you want to make, that wouldn't be so opposite our CP Commandments and Guidelines. If you came here with some intent of showing us the error or our idealogical ways, you made a mistake. --Sysop-TK _/MyTalk 22:18, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Talk:Kent

I can't wait to see your response. I guess your an extreme right winger! Bohdan 15:02, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

Request

I want to put a few more pictures in the evolution article. Do you know how to do that? I want to put a picture of Ernst Haeckel in this section: http://www.conservapedia.com/Evolution#Evolutionary_theory_and_Cases_of_Fraud.2C_Hoaxes_and_Speculation.E2.80.8E I also want to put a picture of Stephen Gould in this section: http://www.conservapedia.com/Evolution#Theory_of_Punctuated_Equilibrium Please don't use the picture of Stephen Gould used at Wikipedia. Can you help? Conservative 15:11, 18 July 2007 (EDT)conservative

I was just about to upload an image of him! Bohdan 15:32, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

Sorry Bo :/ Was it better than the one I used? If so, replace it Fox (talk|contribs) 15:33, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

No your is better. And you have that template of copyright use. Bohdan 15:34, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

Templates

Hey Joaquin :) There is a list here : Help:Templates Fox (talk|contribs) 17:54, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

Thank you! --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 17:56, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

From Phillip: --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 22:39, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

If you looked at the top of this page, in the "useful links" box, you already have that link.  :-)

That link should be to all the templates, categorised and briefly explained. If you want a list of all templates (including user boxes), there's also this. Philip J. Rayment 20:15, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

Retrieved from "http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Joaqu%C3%ADn_Mart%C3%ADnez"

Language

Wow...do you know Greek? I've always wanted to learn another language like that, but it seems kind of hard :) And thanks for the quick response! δεβοραηβ^θαλκ 18:15, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

:D Fox (talk|contribs) 18:22, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

Wow...I just noticed that you made my signature in Greek! Thanks...it's awesome! I think that'll be my "special" signature when I leave you and Hojimachong comments...everyone else would probably wonder why on earth I started signing in Greek :) And I have ask...are you copying and pasting the letters from somewhere, or does your computer have some type of Greek writing program? (sorry for my stupidity :) δεβοραηβ^θαλκ  :)

Request

Could you download these pics please?

One pic of H.G. Wells: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=h.g.+wells+and+picture

Francis Crick: http://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/SC/

Solly Zuckerman: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/Jzuckerman.htm

Your help so far is much appreciated!

Conservative 19:24, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

Uploaded at Image:Jzuckerman.jpg, Image:Francis Crick.jpg, Image:H G Wells.jpg Fox (talk|contribs) 19:32, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

thank you very much and a request

Thank you very much for your help yesterday. I want to make a point in the evolution article using Isaac Newton. The pic we have at Conservapedia of Isaac Newton is straggly looking and I want to make a point in the article without a straggly looking pic of Newton. Could you please copy and download this pic to my user discussion page: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960707.html By the way, I don't plan on incessantly asking you to post this pic or that pic in the future.Conservative 18:05, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

Maybe

You can understand that here, in the US, it is considered polite to ask before just taking over what another has been doing? I am speaking of the Daily Quote. I haven't said anything since the contest, but its becoming annoying. --Sysop-TK _/MyTalk 05:11, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

You own the main page too, now? Go ahead. Fox (talk|contribs) 05:31, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

• So, you just bully and then insult? Try it with someone else, Fox. You pushed in during the contest, never expressing any interest in it before, simply because you didn't like your block being reverted. Kindly grow up and end your pettiness. We have been here before with your several resignations when angered. I haven't been adding Bible quotes, simply out of respect that you took that over some time ago. --Sysop-TK _/MyTalk 05:45, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

Pot, kettle, black. Its your constant bullying, unilateral "I AM THE LAW!" approach (even when you are completely wrong), snide comments, insults and pettiness that drag this place down. You are treating CP like your personal fiefdom, and all of your back-biting and power struggling with everybody else is starting to become a drag. Fox (talk|contribs) 05:52, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

Yes? Odd until your unfair and uncalled for block was reversed you never once had a complaint! Should I post your many Yahoo conversations here? Please don't insult me, or make charges out of spite, Fox. --Sysop-TK _/MyTalk 05:54, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

As pointed out above - pot - kettle - black. Don't try bullying me - I'm not one of the schoolkids here who might be afraid or in awe of you. Fox (talk|contribs) 05:56, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

• No, I thought you were the person who proclaimed his friendship, and I supported your promotion based upon the person I thought you were. Unfortunately I have learned too late, that anyone, even a sysop, who does anything you don't like, (say reversing an unfair block, which was approved by Andy), will get your emnity and hostility. So be it. --Sysop-TK _/MyTalk 06:02, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

Come on, Partners. Both are excellent persons, be calm. I invite you to take a look to Baruj Salinas. Let the painters do the fireworks. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 08:09, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

Nasty Crack

Thanks. [3]

I removed his remark from talk:Ann Coulter. Amazing how much ink the liberals spill accusing her of "personal attacks", yet they feel free to make personal attacks of their own (see double standards). --Ed Poor ^Talk 14:46, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

Contest

We are waiting for the results. Every day I find samples of your excellent work here. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 23:56, 21 July 2007 (EDT)

Winners

Congratulations. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 08:20, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Congratulations! We won! DeborahB. 11:11, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Where are you my friend? --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 15:33, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

About Venezuela

Dear Fox,

I am writing to thank you for the images of the flag, the coat of arms and the map that you added to the article of Venezuela. I have always thought that article was uncompleted without those images. I hope you always give your collaboration to improve Conservapedia.

Thank you for your help,

--Juanmanuelarcia 14:09; 24 July 2007 (UTC)

I would appreciate your support

Dear FOX,

I am sending you a note about the uncited template and how it can substantially increase web traffic to Conservapedia.

The Conservapedia article on homosexuality is now ranked in the top 10 of http://www.google.com searches. I estimate that the Conservapedia article on homosexuality is giving 300-400 people new people a day to know about Conservapedia who wouldn't otherwise know about it. When the article is in the top 5 of the search engine rankings it will bring in SUBSTANTIALLY more as the top 5 entries get the lion's share of the internet traffic.

Now a main reason why the Conservapedia homosexuality article is ranked in the top 10 is that the search engines highly reward articles with footnotes that link to other internet websites. Accordingly, since our uncited template is successful in getting people to cite their material as Andy Schlafly stated, I made note of the uncited template in the following Conservapedia articles:

Conservapedia:Commandments: http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments

Conservapedia Manual of Style: http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Manual_of_Style

Conservapedia:Footnotes - technical help http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Footnotes_-_technical_help

Currently about 50% of Conservapedia articles are completely uncited and a high percentage of articles that are cited are poorly cited. If this persist, not many people are going to know about Conservapedia as our articles will be poorly ranked by the search engines. However, I strongly believe that the uncited template will make a substantial difference.

Accordingly, I would appreciate your efforts in supporting the uncited template.

Conservative 15:37, 29 July 2007 (EDT)