User talk:Mmeelliissssaa

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ello :)!!! --Will N. 13:10, 27 April 2007 (EDT)

Hello Mmeelliissssaa 13:13, 27 April 2007 (EDT)

you should fix up your user page. kinda boring (no offense). put some pics up of yourself or things you like or practically anything (well only things that wont break the rules here :)) --Will N. 13:20, 27 April 2007 (EDT)


My unofficial Welcome Wagon

Welcome to Conswervapedia, and I hope you enjoy adding to the sum of mankind's knowledge of this very young, but complicated, universe. I see you have been trying to work on a science article (Geocentric theory) with Mr. Rashfly. Best of luck with that. He's here on a special work-release program under the care and resposibility of his brother. May your sojourn be productive and mellow! Human 17:36, 29 April 2007 (EDT)

The Geocentric theory article

Hi Human, I have been working on the Geocentric theory article but I've been having some problems with Rashfly actually. He keeps deleting and reverting every thing I add. He doesn't discuss any of the changes on the talk page except to insult me and ridicule my beliefs and views. I don't know what to do, could you give me some advice or help? Thank you Mmeelliissssaa 08:42, 2 May 2007 (EDT)

My advice is to make only one edit per day to Geocentric theory. Also, I suggest you wait at least one hour after any edit or comment by another user before commenting.
Sometimes taking it slow makes progress faster: haste makes waste. :-) --Ed Poor 11:45, 2 May 2007 (EDT)

I hear what you say, but I think it is RShafly who is in the wrong. He hardly gives any justification for the deletions, just insults me. He repeatedlty states his opinion but never backs it up with arguments, how can we agree if he won't discuss? His version of the article is useless, compleatly lacking in information and only a couple of paragraphs long. I don't know what to do. I'll try just making smaller changes at a time and see if that helps. If you could back me up a bit more I'd really appreciate it, clearly the article should give people inforation about both sides of the argument so that they can make up their own minds. Mmeelliissssaa 11:55, 4 May 2007 (EDT)

I suggest creating a Michelson-Morley experiment article, which you can link to from the geocentric article. --CPAdmin1 12:26, 4 May 2007 (EDT)

Good Idea, I've taken your advice.Mmeelliissssaa 13:05, 4 May 2007 (EDT)


I fixed your userbox.--CPAdmin1 11:57, 4 May 2007 (EDT)

Cool, thankyou I had no idea how to do that (I copyed and pasted the boxes from someone else). Any chance you could also give me a hand with the [Geocentric theory] article as well, my work is repeatedly being deleted, and instead of discusing the changes (Deletions) the other user just insults me and my beliefs on the talk page. Thanks again Mmeelliissssaa 12:02, 4 May 2007 (EDT)

If you add {{Userboxtop|Mmeellissssaa}} and {{Userboxbottom}} above and below your userboxes it will format on the side of your page like this. --CPAdmin1 12:13, 4 May 2007 (EDT)

Bibleopened.jpeg This user reads the Bible in a straightforward or literal manner.
Christflag.jpeg This user has accepted Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior.
Christflag.jpeg This user believes in the Lordship of Jesus Christ alone and that all other belief systems are forms of idolatry.
YEC This user is a Young Earth Creationist.
Earthsat.jpeg This user believes in an old Earth

  — 6,000 years old.

Exploding Planet.jpg This user believes that the Big Bang is coming. (2 Peter 3:10)

That definatly looks better, thanks again. Mmeelliissssaa 12:16, 4 May 2007 (EDT)


took me forever to figure things out here. i was an original here because i was in Mr. Aschlafly class. --Will N. 12:03, 4 May 2007 (EDT)

Geocentric Edits

Some of your bible quotes don't quite match your contention that the earth is at the centre of the universe. I find this an interesting hypothesis, and one which, for a large proportion of human existence was believed by many people. It's a nice idea, but I think if you are going to create a substantial element to the article, you will need to establish some sort of scientifc basis for this, as solid as the Young Earth Creationists claim to have done.

I find it interesting that the YEC have not taken up your cause, especially as the biblical evidince you offer is quite compelling. There have in fact been explorations of this from some quite unusual sources which you might quite like to follow up. David Deutsch in the Fabric of Reality, explores the whole issue of the Copernican revolution, and concedes that Geocentric Theory is an equivalent way of looking at reality. He opts for the heiocentric view, simply on the principle that if something is behaving as if something else id true, and that something else is a simpler, more elegant explanation, then we should adopt the sonmething else as reality. Secondly, Ian Steart in the 'Science of DiscWorld' books, looks at the whole issue of Flat Earth, and how the Universe might be configured if the sun revolved around the earth.

None of these explanations actually provide evidence that the sun does not orbit the earth. The fact is though that the one reason that the heliocentric explanation is accepted currently is that under this hypothesis, planetary orbits are convoluted, that is there appear to loop the loop in their orbits. No known mechanism exists which would allow this to happen, and therefore, as Deutsch points out anyone offering geocetricism as an explanation would need to provide a mechanism by which this could happen. He suggests 'guided by angels'; now if you can find biblical evidence for that, you might be onto a winner. --OfficerDibble 05:26, 5 May 2007 (EDT)

"guided by angels" - Thanks, I'll look for some scripture on that. I did orrigionaly put some scientfic arguments for geocentric theory in the article but RShalfy keeped removing it. I might put some of it back in again sometime. RShafly never gave any counter arguments either, but I had no way of stoping him deleting my stuff. Take a look at the article I recently Created on the Michelson-Morley experiment, I plan to link that to the Geocentric Theory article. Mmeelliissssaa 05:31, 5 May 2007 (EDT)

You will have noticed I ave added a link to Scientific American to support the aether contention (Dec 2005)--OfficerDibble 05:42, 5 May 2007 (EDT)

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