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Why did you unblock all those users, and what happened to wikinterpreter?Богдан Talk 17:58, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Nevermind, I see you unblocked wikinterpreter.Богдан Talk 17:59, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
  • You really do need to stop with this posting about such matters, ok? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 18:01, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
My apologies. I meant nothing by it.Богдан Talk 18:03, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Use the email. I don't care what you meant, ok? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 18:35, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Global warming

I think I'll be ready to edit some of Global warming later tonight. thanx, --Africangenesis 23:46, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Great! Let me for dinner right now, back in about an hour. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 23:52, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
    • I'm probably done for tonight. I haven't really gotten started. I know the sources I want to rely upon for the counter evidence, but I want to find a better source that shows what the IPCC dependencies are. It may be a statement by past director Houghton instead of one of the reports, just because that might be more concisely stated.--Africangenesis 02:29, 2 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Excellent what I saw earlier! Thanks! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 02:30, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

Article creation drive

I created an article creation drive on the main page. Here it is: Conservapedia:Articles That Need To Created‎

Conservative 18:24, 2 June 2007 (EDT)


Sorry about the misunderstanding. It won't happen again. You rule your castle with an iron fist! Богдан Talk 20:41, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Sorry, it always helps to understand what someone is posting here. Since you manage to converse without non-sequiturs on other wiki's, please do so here, or like I said, just email. Here in America, they are free! ;-) --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 20:46, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

Icevedge user page

What is the purpose of this page? Are you using it for testing? According to the block log, the user was blocked infinitely, in which I assumed for vandal-type reasons. After this infinite block, I was under the provision that sysops were to delete any content from vandal/blocked accounts. Niandra talk 05:44, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Well, just goes to show you that you should be using your MSN, eh? I put a little welcome up for our vandal, and can remove it myself, eh? There wasn't a page until I made it, not the vandal. It is so much faster, you could have asked me via IM over an hour ago. Cheers! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 05:59, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

Sysop Nomination

I was just wondering if you know how to access the page where users can nominate themselves and other users for Sysop. They took the link off the main page, and I'm not sure what it's called. Thanks. DeborahB. 14:52, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Utterly Confused

Bohdan is now completely lost regarding your last Talk 21:47, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

  • You emailed me or posted here about how I run my "castle" with an iron hand, and I was responding, it isn't a castle, but a citadel! I thought you were done with that other place, but not? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 21:58, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
I got the citidel one. I was done with that other site, but I wanted to find something out. I asked a question and got some very disturbing answers. Go to A---G's talk page and see for yourself. bd Talk 22:01, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
I censor to not reveal anything! bd Talk 22:02, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
  • You really do need to wake up to the 21st century and get yourself an Instant Messenger, lol. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 22:08, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
E-mail me please! bd Talk 22:57, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Mormonism and Christianity template

I don't think that Mormonism should be in the Christianity template.

I cite: "There are, however, significant difference between Mormonism and mainstream Protestant denominations. The United Methodist Church has stated that the Mormon faith has "some radically differing doctrine on such matters of belief as the nature and being of God; the nature, origin, and purpose of Jesus Christ; and the nature and way of salvation."[4] The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod goes further, stating that it, "together with the vast majority of Christian denominations in the United States, does not regard the Mormon church as a Christian church."[5], while the Southern Baptist Convention states that the Mormon religion is "not consistent with biblical Christianity." Conservative 17:15, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

  • I appreciate your opinion. However your opinion alone is not reason enough to exclude it, nor do you have some special standing among Sysops to make it so on your word alone. You need to practice what the Bible says. Your unilateral actions, are a mark of disrespect, since you fail to even email other Sysops and discuss it. Surely you can see your actions are anything but Christian? You need to walk the walk, not merely talk the talk. Look more for reasons people agree, rather than seeking to cast others out. Look into your own heart to see why you do this, why you are so disrespectful of others, especially those who hold the same position as you do. That is all that I ask. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 17:46, 8 June 2007 (EDT)
Thanks for your support TK. Crocoite Talk 18:12, 8 June 2007 (EDT)
  • It is not a matter of supporting one person over another. It is a matter of the power of Christ, and what he commands us to do.--Sysop-TK /MyTalk 18:16, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Hitler article

I've done what I can do in 15 minutes. Hope I didn't introduce too many typos. Feel free to lock it again. Thanks. User:Order June 10.

Your note to me

You wrote to me regarding whether or not Mormonism should be on the Christianity template the following:

"This is indeed a nutty idea, and I agree with Crocoite. If Conservative truly believes this, I ask him to step forward and reveal himself, along with his theological and educational credentials first. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk"

I view this post as inconsistent and uncordial. It seems to me that if you insist on having my name and credentials because I stated that Mormonism should not be on the Christianity template that you should give your name and credentials for stating that Mormonism be on the Christianity template. You did not due this, however, and I see this as inconsistent. Secondly, as long as someone is abiding by the Conservapedia rules I see no need for insisting that they relinquish the anonymous editing privilidges that are afforded Conservapedia editors especially when you do not reveal your own identity. Please be more cordial to me in the future. Thank you. Conservative 13:44, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

  • As you sow, Conservative, so shall you reap. Asking, behind the scenes, for Rob to remove Mormonism from the template, without emailing the rest of us, at the very least was uncordial, and it certainly was disrespectful. It signaled that you want to do things only your way, and in accordance with your beliefs, without respecting the ideas of others. This has happened many times. I am old enough, and have earned my stripes in the public arena, to have learned one makes better progress, and faster progress, by working well with others. I don't always do it well, but I do endeavor to do so. The fact that most Sysops here get along, is testimony to our constant, never-ending emails to each other, sorting things out, building consensus, dozens per day. If you insist on continuing as you have in the past, and I am not saying here I haven't seen real progress in your manners, then I fear you being marginalized even more than you have been. This in spite of your many, many excellent contributions. One person, no matter how valuable, does not an encyclopedia make. You have my email, and that of other Sysops, I assume. Please join us in dialog, and I know your whole CP experience will be more productive and fun! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 18:47, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
I don't believe you can show that I have been marginalized. I also don't believe you should state that I have been marginalized without demonstrating it. Also, I don't believe it was right for you to block someone for purely ideological reasons (agreeing with me that Mormonism is not part of Christianity on my user discussion page). I think that Conservapedia should be rules based and that person broke no rules in the slightest. I think that was petty for you to block them. Lastly, I do believe in having as much harmony as possible and therefore I will send you a Christianity-template compromise position shortly. It is my hope that we repair our relationship which is strained at the moment. Conservative 18:57, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

I support Conservative on this point. There is no need to take every single edit to a larger group, and Conservative presumably thought that he was being uncontroversial in asking Rob about changing the template. And when it became obvious that it was controversial, he took it to a wider audience, via Andy's talk page (which is not to say that that was the best page, but that's a separate issue). I also disagree with your comments elsewhere that this is a non-issue. Conservative is correct (and has shown it) that most of Christendom does not consider Mormonism to be part of Christianity. Philip J. Rayment 19:27, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

I only brought it to Andy's discussion page because I was unaware of any "Christianity template discussion page". Conservative 19:29, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
I realise that, but as I said, that is a separate issue, so I wasn't going to discuss that here and now. Philip J. Rayment 19:33, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

I sent you an email

I sent you an email. Conservative 19:34, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

I have responded via email. Bohdan 22:11, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
Check it again. And I don't post there anymore. Sorry for any misunderstanding. Bohdan 23:00, 10 June 2007 (EDT)


maybe your right, everything I thought was wrong, and Putin is the only one protecting democracy.

he says "the alleged threat from Iranian missiles is a myth" Doesn't he know his government sold and still sells missles and nuclear materials to Iran.? Maybe he's too busy threatening his neighbors. He's getting more and more annoying as time goes on. Bohdan 13:22, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

  • My post was sarcasm. ;-) But I do miss old Boris! He would know what to do with Putin, eh? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 13:24, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Oh, I new it was sarcasm. And old Boris was truly a guy. Do you like this small text? Bohdan 13:27, 13 June 2007 (EDT) (One more question. I'm not sure if your the right one, but I seem to be having periodic problems with this site not loading. Have you experienced this?)
  • Yes, yesterday I did. Sometimes it is a DNS issue. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 14:22, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Alvaro Uribe

Why do you call Amnesty International leftist. Would you rather they not exist. You shouldn't cover up Uribe's crimes because he is a Bush ally. He is a bad man and he is going to hell when he dies.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Keeponrockinginthethirdworld (talk)

Well, wasn't that note special... On a different note, one of the pieces of information that was removed during the reverts was that Urbie was elected as President in 2002 and re-elected in 2006. I'd say that's good factual information to have. By the way, I also think the 62% figure is in regard to his re-election. If you could put the information back in, I'm sure it would be appreciated. My last edit has the text if you want to see placement. Thanks. Learn together 15:50, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

--Hi Jtl, you old biddy!


Why remove the ethical issues part? Thats really an important debate! Its ok to kill an unborn child, but God help us if a lobster is boiled. As the article said, they might experience pain! Bohdan 01:00, 17 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Look at parsley abortion...another gift from that old rascal, Auld. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 01:12, 17 June 2007 (EDT)
wow. I wish I didn't see that. Rascal isn't the word I would have used. Bohdan 01:17, 17 June 2007 (EDT)

No, I didn't get your email praising the Billy Sunday article... thanks for letting me know. I just sent you a Conservapedia e-mail-this-user email, let's see whether you get it ... Dpbsmith 19:51, 18 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Got it! At least now you have my direct email, so no worries about the hit-and-miss board emailing. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 21:36, 18 June 2007 (EDT)


Hey I was not supporting him, whoever said I was?! JUst wondering were he went to.--Will N. 08:58, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

  • I understand, Will. Just my way of saying some things are better off done via email.  ;-) --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 10:53, 21 June 2007 (EDT)


Thanks for your quick action on the TsarNicholas/Abstinence problem! Keepin' it clean! :) --Lorrie 17:00, 31 May 2007 (EDT)


Thanks TK. I appreciate your support. Crocoite Talk 00:17, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

  • No problem! Get at me on IM and I can explain how to handle removing pages. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 09:27, 1 June 2007 (EDT)


Thank you TK, I must admit I was surprised when you blocked me. Fingermouse 09:10, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Not so surprised as I was at how quickly you ran to post about it.  ;-) --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 09:25, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

HAHA!--Will N. 09:26, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Yes, its almost as though certain people are telepathically connected, or sharing a mass consciousness, or some other such... similarities :/ File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 09:29, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Perhaps they are all Sheepherders? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 21:35, 1 June 2007 (EDT)


Thanks for the useful links, TK! I'll read over them this evening. --Lorrie 22:07, 1 June 2007 (EDT)


You have mail File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 07:07, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

Incidentally, please check the other recipient's address on that email and forward it to the correct place if I have misspelled or otherwise made an error with it ;) File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 07:15, 3 June 2007 (EDT)


I would not like to get into any sort of dispute on the article. I would like to just dialogue and try and understand your position. If I understand things correctly, you are saying that, since Jerome was not baptized until he was an adult (preparing for ordination, most likely), he could not have been raised Catholic from infancy. But I dont see why this should be the case, since infant baptism was not a universal practice in the fifth century. And I don't understand your comment that I "don't know what I'm talking about". I provided a source, a quote from Jerome himself, where he says, in a letter, that he was raised Catholic since his youth. What have I missed? Lostcaesar 10:08, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

  • As it turns out, I am the one not knowing what they are talking about....I mis-read not one, but two sources completely! Sorry, and I have reverted the article. This is a duplicate of the post I made on the Jerome talk page. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 14:35, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
No problem at all TK, I'm glad you're keeping the articles accurate and looking for mistakes. We all misread a source from time to time, and I'm sure I'll do it in the future myself, so keep checking up on my edits. Lostcaesar 15:06, 4 June 2007 (EDT)


User:MississippiMud - see for example [1] File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 17:48, 4 June 2007 (EDT)


Thanks for unblocking me. Is it possible to get my userpage and talk page back? Boomcoach 23:37, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Deleting an article

I need help on the methodology for getting an article deleted. I started on the Main Page link to "Articles for Deletion", which led to a new page, but I could find nowhere that showed the present system. I am working on the Jack the Ripper page, and created a new page entitled Ripperologists. I later realized that it was poor style to create a page on the plural of the noun, so I recreated the page as Ripperologist. I will have the latter page redirect to the former, for the time being, but it would be best to have the Ripperologist page deleted completely. Thanks for your time. Boomcoach


Thanks for starting to make me a template...I really appreciate your willingness to help! DeborahB. 21:32, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

  • My pleasure, Deb.....just too many guys wanting to help you as well, lol! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 22:14, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Christianity Template

TK, thanks for the revert and for your comments on the talk pages. I have sent you an email. Crocoite Talk 11:09, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

You got mail

Check your email. RobS 17:49, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Chech it again! Check it again! bd Talk 18:43, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

TK, I'm back in now. RobS 10:39, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

Tk, I'm back online. RobS 14:02, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

Ivan Samoylovych

Category "Russia"? An outrage!! lol :) {or is it :p} bd Talk 00:53, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Thank God you saw that mistake!! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 00:55, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

Deliberate parodist

User:Muschifresser File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 07:32, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

  • 04:37, 8 May 2007 TK blocked "Muschifresser (contribs)" with an expiry time of infinite (Parodist/Subtle Vandal: "Owing to their diet of eucalyptus leaves, which contain a volatile oil, Koalas are highly flammable. For this reason, it is recommended to consume them raw in the form of a carpaccio or Koala tartare.Also has sock,LordWhimsey. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 07:55, 9 June 2007 (EDT)‎


Hey why did you block Tash? Just wondering because he has been here for a little bit and has not done anything wrong?--Will N. 09:57, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Hey, Will...he blanked a page and put up just a picture of a goat. The page was a parody, inserted by others, and he was editing it too. If there is some explanation, let me know or have him email me. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 17:16, 9 June 2007 (EDT)
Hi TK, Will; just a 3rd opinion, so to speak, but studying the difference, it looks as though Tash was trying to make a silk purse from the sow's ear that the parodists had created. He removed some of the garbage text, and added a hotlink to an image of goats, which was better than the image which was already there (and which he left in place.) I'm fairly sure that he was making an honest, genuine attempt to fix up the article. File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 18:32, 9 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Fox, please sign into Yahoo! I need your advice on another matter. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 18:45, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

Template use guide

TK, is this clear enough? Philip J. Rayment 12:22, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

  • What a wonderful man you are! It seems simple enough even for me, Philip! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 17:14, 9 June 2007 (EDT)
Terrific! I figured that if you could understand it, anyo... Ummm. Thanks! Philip J. Rayment
  • LMAO! How true, how true.......--Sysop-TK /MyTalk 20:17, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

Christianity template - compromise position

I think there is a way to keep the Mormons and Christians who believe that Mormonism is not part of Christianity happy in regards to the "Christianity template issue". I think the solution is too not to have a Christianity template. If there is no template there is nothing to argue about. This way here I could create Christianity related articles with no problems to my conscience and not be concerned that a "Christianity template" which I believe is in error would be slapped on the articles I created (I don't want to be an unwilling recruiter of Mormonism vis a vis a template I disagree with). I could also recruit more of my fellow evangelicals or conservatives to create Christianity articles. So far I have recruited 6 people to sign up to Conservapedia and I wish to continue to do this. Lastly, I would like Andy to endorse my compromise and since Andy wants to keep disputes to a minimum and focus our efforts on creating more content I think he should endorse my compromise. Conservative 18:59, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

As I've posted on Andy's talk page, can we keep this debate (of what should be done about the template) in one place, the talk page of the template. A mention here that you have made a compromise proposal there is fine, but don't repeat that proposal on other pages. Philip J. Rayment 19:31, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Without passing any judgement on the finer points, This is supposed to be a "Conservative and Christian friendly" encyclopedia. Debating who is and is not a Christian is more suitable to Tom Major's wiki, or another one, possibly, but not appropriate for Conservapedia, IMO. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 23:02, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

Nim Chimpsky

The person's username was a reference to the famous psychological experiment chimpanzee, who Herbert S. Terrace might have taught rudimentary sign language - this and this might explain. Don't worry, I'm not completely mad, just a little ;-) --wikinterpreter woo!

  • Did you think I had a problem with them? Just wanted them to know I had restored that article, and to keep the discussion and article sane.....;-) --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 14:57, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Gotta love Peoria

Its about 3:50 right now, and I just woke up 20 mins ago to what I believe were gunshots outside, and now I hear sirens in the distance... And now I gotta try to figure out how to get back to bed.--Elamdri 04:54, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Wouldn't a nice juicy Ribeye and some fries be tasty about now?  ! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 05:48, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

American Revolution

I replied on my talk page, but also started a discussion on the articles talk page, so more people can chime in on it. --Colest 09:48, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

just checking in again to see if you got my email. --Colest 20:22, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
So, is it wrong of me to expect a somewhat timely reply to the email that you acknowledged you recieved several days ago? --Colest 22:10, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

TK, our "enemies" show they are not worthy to be called our enemies

Look at this bungling claim made by the "lair of the cabal" crowd: I hope you enjoy my comments there. Conservative 20:30, 12 June 2007 (EDT)


maybe your right, everything I thought was wrong, and Putin is the only one protecting democracy.

he says "the alleged threat from Iranian missiles is a myth" Doesn't he know his government sold and still sells missles and nuclear materials to Iran.? Maybe he's too busy threatening his neighbors. He's getting more and more annoying as time goes on. Bohdan 13:22, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

  • My post was sarcasm. ;-) But I do miss old Boris! He would know what to do with Putin, eh? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 13:24, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Oh, I new it was sarcasm. And old Boris was truly a guy. Do you like this small text? Bohdan 13:27, 13 June 2007 (EDT) (One more question. I'm not sure if your the right one, but I seem to be having periodic problems with this site not loading. Have you experienced this?)
  • Yes, yesterday I did. Sometimes it is a DNS issue. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 14:22, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Alvaro Uribe

Why do you call Amnesty International leftist. Would you rather they not exist. You shouldn't cover up Uribe's crimes because he is a Bush ally. He is a bad man and he is going to hell when he dies.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Keeponrockinginthethirdworld (talk)

Well, wasn't that note special... On a different note, one of the pieces of information that was removed during the reverts was that Urbie was elected as President in 2002 and re-elected in 2006. I'd say that's good factual information to have. By the way, I also think the 62% figure is in regard to his re-election. If you could put the information back in, I'm sure it would be appreciated. My last edit has the text if you want to see placement. Thanks. Learn together 15:50, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Request for Debate:The Vacillating Investor to be added to the Debate topics page

The Debate topics page is protected... I'd like someone to add Debate:The Vacillating Investor to it. I suggest that it belongs under a new subhead, "puzzles." Dpbsmith 08:39, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

email sent

I have sent you an email. Bohdan 15:36, 15 June 2007 (EDT)


Thanks! What's a Finne? Maestro 18:14, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

  • My lovely wife! Irish! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 20:00, 15 June 2007 (EDT)
  • You know, most people just get a postcard :) Maestro 16:04, 18 June 2007 (EDT)

Another use

[2] looks like another use of this tactic. It didn't work though. Bohdan 20:10, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

If I say "your wasting your time with that...." would you know to what I refer? Bohdan 20:32, 15 June 2007 (EDT)
  • I just don't want to blanket one place, ya know? Not everyone can live in NYC. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 20:39, 15 June 2007 (EDT)


It was used as a local anaesthetic in opthalmic and dental surgery, see article here for confirmation. File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 19:23, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Still is, at least when my Mom had her cataract surgery last August, Fox. Thanks for the article, lets put it on the Cocaine talk page, eh? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 19:24, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

Nice save on the cocaine article. Question, do you think there is a way to short circuit these two sentence articles that are really just an excuse for bashing (e.g. "demonization", original "cocaine") without creating some unacceptable censorship committee? PS: thanks for getting me re-instated.Tisdale.david 12:18, 18 June 2007 (EDT)David Tisdale

  • Please link me or IM me, about the specifics you are talking about, okay? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 16:43, 18 June 2007 (EDT)

So sorry, produced an epic screed, put it aside for a couple of days, got busy doing something else. Basically, what I propose is a sandbox for new contributors to keep the trash and the trojans from getting to the pages, rather than this eternal bug hunt, which is like trying to solve your cockroach problem with a hammer. Will provide a more comprehensive proposal in a couple of days. Thanks for your patience. Tisdale.david 10:51, 27 June 2007 (EDT)David Tisdale


Thanks for the instant messenger information. I will try and do it tomorrow. Bohdan 22:14, 18 June 2007 (EDT)

Denny Crane

Saw the Denny Crane userbox on your page (that's sorta where I got it from). I bought my father a Denny Crane bobble-head toy: if you go here, you can buy one! It's awesome. Bop its head and it says "Denny Crane!" He loves it. Just thought you might be interested.

Also, I've seen some articles that have an old provenance that I'd really like to have a "go" at. There's a lot of liberal bias to clean up in some pieces that appear to have slipped off the radar. How free am I to hunt it down and eradicate it where I see it?-Phoenix 01:33, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

  • We do not have some special seniority or a wolf pack that is allowed to chase you down here, Phoenix, unlike Wikipedia. Whenever, wherever you find Liberal Bias/Deceit feel free to remove it, revert it, change it to the truth! If you run into problems with others, please let me, or any of our sysops know. I do indeed like the Denny Crane bobble-head and am going to order several, and perhaps a "Mad Cow" Tee as well. Thanks for the tip! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 03:21, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

Hello I am NOT a sock

What the heck are you doing? Why did you erase my picture? You didn't even talk to me. What are you doing?WHEELER 19:54, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

  • And you are? Sorry but your name doesn't ring a bell. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 19:55, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

This dude was the worst sock ever! He was so not a good boy. He was always NO WASY I AM NOT A SOCK! I sensed it right away. --Will N. 19:58, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Thank you Will! At first I thought I was going whacked, reading all that crap again!  :p --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 19:59, 19 June 2007 (EDT)
  • I play alot of the car game of mafia and this is the crap I see all the time in that game. So ya I saw it through.--Will N. 20:01, 19 June 2007 (EDT)
I just got back, I see he really was a sock. I am glad you and WillN took care of this. I just tried to help Elamdri. Bohdan 20:25, 19 June 2007 (EDT)
  • If not for the IP deal, and his area, I would have watched a day or so. That Will and his quick finger beat even me!  :p --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 20:26, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

Ya well I got a good head for that stuff. Other stuff well lets not get there....--Will N. 21:18, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Like MarioKart DS? Thanks again, I cleaned up after, removed all his baggage. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 21:27, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

No I am just super slow sometimes to get stuff, like math science and stuff. I am not stupid no not that, just a lil lsow sometimes. So if you say something complicated, I might not respond because I have no clue what the hell ya said. So just advice when ya talk to me, keep it simple to a degree.--Will N. 21:29, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Will I was so totally like that all through High School and College, dude! Math! Bah! I couldn't do it! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 21:35, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

Franklin Roosevelt

Could you check it out? I think that has escaped scrutiny, but I just don't have the time atm.--Elamdri 01:39, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

  • It is sadly lacking anything about his first election in 1932, or each of his terms as President. Ditto that about his leadership during WW II. I placed the improvement/reconstruction template on it, and hopefully someone will want to add! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 06:32, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Worth watching

Four edits, two of them false: Special:Contributions/Saoirse File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 06:55, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

There was more of the same today. I waved goodbye to him. Thanks for the alert! Am I forgiven yet? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 16:42, 20 June 2007 (EDT)
If you're referring to what I think you are referring to (switch to scrambler, RW is watching :P) then there was nothing to forgive :D File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 17:34, 20 June 2007 (EDT)


Special:Contributions/SnareDrumKneeCaps File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 12:03, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Seems Will took care of this! Thanks to you both! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 16:42, 20 June 2007 (EDT)


  • HAHAHAHAHAHA Thats a load of trash. I can count so many blatant lies its not even funny. If you want to know about their RW, talk to TK. He'll tell you what they're really about.Bohdan 20:23, 20 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Except for a few deletions made by management, and deleted from their database, (since at RW users are forced by the authoritarian management to keep everything put on their "talk" pages archived, or the abusive sysops there will do it) everyone is invited to see just how they actually deal with those who don't agree with them, in my own archives there on RW. In those archives you will see exactly what they think about Christians, Conservapedia, vandalism, and even the United States. when it isn't some prepackaged deceitful spiel from one of their most polished and erudite spokespersons. If anyone browses there, be sure to look into not only the talk pages, but the attached archives as well. It will be a learning experience, to be sure. I think there are many good people there. But make no mistake, the "leaders" there (and they claim to have none, but it is readily apparent who calls the shots) encourage a mobocracy that attacks users there who they don't agree with, with never-ending, pounding personal insults, and invective. If you fight back on their terms, they invent rules, make some retro-active, twist them in an attempt to silence you. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 22:15, 20 June 2007 (EDT)
I find the whole open letter thing to be incredibly patronizing too. "Many other people are willing to help you, too." Like being rescued from a cult! Having said that, that's what I've seen them express in their discussion about this. They actually say that homeschooled kids here should be forcibly removed from their families!!! (To be re-educated Khmer Rouge style no doubt, that's their mentality.) File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 22:23, 20 June 2007 (EDT)
The "forcibly remove children from their families" thing was the sickest, most depraved comment I have seen there yet. Bohdan 22:27, 20 June 2007 (EDT)
Quote:"the only hope for these kids is to be completely removed from their families somehow" (compliments of user Myar). File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 22:34, 20 June 2007 (EDT)
  • I think we owe SharonS an apology for cluttering this page. Bohdan 22:36, 20 June 2007 (EDT)
And meantime, they've continued to vandalize and add obscenities, and discussed on RW other new ways to add vandalism and obscenity. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds. File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 13:13, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Have you

seen RobS user page at RW? File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 09:08, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Yes? This stuff is better on Yahoo, because I rarely understand posts...... --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 10:52, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

Ralph Reed

Thanks for pointing that out to me. Adding back in the information from the previous user was a mistake. I only meant to add links. Learn together 11:41, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Well I wasn' the only one to notice, and (in spite of what some think) I like to give people the benefit of doubt. Watch your back. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 11:44, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

Global warming

TK, this article is on my watchlist. Can we please unprotect it? --Ed Poor Talk 14:22, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

  • No, I don't think so. I am adding a bucketload to it tonight. Is there some need to unlock it, Ed? If so, tell them to post here, or on the article talk page. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 15:20, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

Comrade Putin

Hi. Did you hear what this idiot said today? [3] Bohdan 20:55, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

  • No! He has words of wisdom for us? Please let me know! I shall be anxiously waiting! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 13:02, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Global Warming

Since this is such a hot topic, I was hoping to put in my two cents as well. Apparently the issues about which I'd really like to post on are considered off-limits. Is there some sort of submission review process for changes? Good luck getting more articles worked on. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zonkers1313 (talk)

  • Sorry, but this is an encyclopedia, and we aren't really looking for your opinion. You can certainly post to the talk page with your ideas, what you think the article is lacking, however. You have made exactly one contribution outside of the post above, and that was a two word change to Nancy Pelosi. We are interested in your ideas, so leave something on the talk page there! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 13:08, 22 June 2007 (EDT)


He already had a warning.

His fault isnt big.

I think two weeks could be enough

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 00:13, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Yes, but I asked why, what. He is a sock of several socks, now using dialup to vary the IP. Think Charles Schultz character. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 00:15, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Fine, I agree with you.

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 00:16, 23 June 2007 (EDT)


done. its installed, but (at the risk of sounding stupid) what now? Bohdan 17:27, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Email me with the user name you chose, and I will add you. Then I can explain more. ;-) --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 17:31, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

::i have to go for a while, but later I will get back to you. see you later, Bohdan 17:32, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Forget that. I'll send the email now. Bohdan 17:39, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Lost edit rights

Just copying this here in case you miss it on Mr. Schlafly's talk page.

Yes, TK, that is what the verse says. My favorite film is Breaker Morant, and this is the epitaph that he asked for when he was executed. There's no sinister intent here, purely an homage to my favorite film and my religion. As far as after hours edits, I live in Arizona and work a late shift so often cannot contribute until the late evening when most of the east coast sysops are offline and the edit ability is locked unless you have the rights. If I were really a troll, would I have added the edits that I have, and made the effort to undo the work of vandals? Matthew1036 17:41, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Matthew1036 17:43, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Block explanation

Greetings from Robledo. Would you care to grow a spine and elaborate on your block reason of " ' "? --Tiresias 17:58, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

  • There we differ. I see no reason, and am not required to do so, to extend a basic human courtesy to people who think themselves elite, and above the rest of us. So, people who are that way, have no rights whatsoever here. Seems to me someone with the intelligence of a dog or a cat would have learned that by now. But you keep is amusing. Nothing more. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 18:26, 23 June 2007 (EDT)
This sock has been blocked. Bohdan 18:02, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

courtesy notice

I reverted something yours that is minor but I didn't want to create a uproar. I didn't change the commandments. I merely put in a link to the footnotes page so people could find it better. I realize the commandments should not be changed capriciously. Conservative 19:46, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Fine, Conservative. Perhaps a dictionary would help explain what "never" means, and not just to you, because many seem to think they can add whatever footnotes and explanations they feel like. I will be discussing with Andy, as it is his demand I am acting upon to keep the Commandments clear, uncluttered and not added to. We had a note there already for people to see the CP Guidelines, which includes the Editors Guide, etc. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 20:08, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Articles related to Scientology

Hi, I noticed that you seem to have deleted all articles pertaining to the topic of Scientology. This has left me with one question: Why? I think it is important to have an objective, conservative view on the dangerous cult known as Scientology, so I was hoping you could go on the record here offering the rationale for their deletion. As I said, I would very much like to see an educated entry on Scientology discussing its dangers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by NotSureAboutThisSite (talk)

I deleted? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 19:58, 23 June 2007 (EDT)
NotSureAboutThisSite has the same IP address as Blahblahblah who signed up earlier and didn't contribute. Perhaps Blahblahblah was immediately blocked and couldn't contribute. Conservative 20:01, 23 June 2007 (EDT)
NotSure...etc also expresses a rather SUBjective view of Scientology, perhaps a nice straw man approach to the topic... File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 20:04, 23 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Blahblah was blocked by Niandra, as yet another sock of somene else who was blocked. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 20:05, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

This is another account I created, which I'm sure will be blocked within minutes, but I just wanted to comment that it is especially difficult for anyone to defend their views here if essentially anything I do results in an immediate block. What is the purpose of this website? To spread knowledge, or just to play an authoritative parenting role over anyone and everyone? It is not conducive to learning at all if anything I say results in an immediate block, preventing me from defending my position or making any follow-up comments. Like I said, I expect this account to be blocked as well just for admitting that my other accounts were blocked. My point is, how can I possibly contribute, or even answer any of the questions that you pose, if I am immediately blocked from writing anything at all?

Lastly, you never answered my original question: why did you delete those articles? Could you answer it please; I'm still curious. And if it wasn't you who deleted those, then it was someone who used your account. I noticed that the articles are now back up again, but if you look at the edit history for the Scientology page, it clearly shows a user by the name "TK" (i.e. you) first deleting all the content, followed by a user also by the name "TK" (again, you) reverting that deletion.

Anyways, you've heard my side of it, now go ahead and block this account as well.

citation template - relaying some important material I don't want to relay publically

I am sending you a private email about the citation template. I am relaying some important material I don't want to relay publically. Look for the email in about 5 minutes. Conservative 20:33, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

  • My pulse is quickening, awaiting its arrival, even if a week late. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 20:41, 23 June 2007 (EDT)


I sent the email I sent you to about 5 or so other key people that I know are actively involved in Conservapedia. I couldn't email some important users as their email is not active (for example, sharon) Can you email blast the other sysops regarding the info I sent you since you seem to know how to email blast using the system? Conservative 21:10, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Already done, seconds after getting your email. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 21:42, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

WTC article

Note sure where to post this, could you deal and / or point me to the right place please? The article on the World Trade Center is largely lifted from WP. The new version is probably better than what was there before, but that's not the point really. What should I do with this? Ferret 00:14, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

  • One needs to be certain that the article on WP didn't come from here, or somewhere else, first. Do not assume what is on WP is holy grail....;-) You can reach me on AIM if you would like. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 00:17, 24 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Unfortunately, in this case it is us who has taken it from WP, I checked the dates. There was an earlier version that Asclafly (and others) had done some work on, should we revert to that? Ferret 01:13, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Yes. I guess maybe I don't mind Ferret's as much as I thought. ;-) --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 01:52, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Going away

Hey I am going away from today untill Monday July 2. I just want to tell you that because I dont want anyone think I won't be back on here. Ok I will see you guys on Monday!--Will N. 13:00, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Have fun, Will!! See you soon. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 16:19, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Email validation

I don't know if you saw this on my talk, but I wasn't been able to validate my email for my Juno account. I just got it to work for Yahoo, though. I never had that problem with Wikipedia, but I don't know how similar the validation stuff is between here and there. Might just be a problem on Juno's end and they're sending it to bulk email (which I've set to be automatically trashed). Jinxmchue 23:25, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Life cannot be fully automated.  ;-) -- Wiki mail is seemingly problematic, but I am happy you finally got it to work! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 00:48, 25 June 2007 (EDT)


You have hotmail. File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 07:11, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

And again. File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 15:06, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Edit conflict

Sorry about the edit conflict at talk:global warming. I'll try to fix it! --Ed Poor Talk 14:13, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Hi, sorry to bother you, but when you have time, could you check the current discussion in the Global warming article. I didn't quite understand what your last answer meant an why my edits where removed, if you could clarify the reasons behind it. Thanks for your time. HeikkiL 21:42, 26 June 2007 (EDT)


Did I miss some vandalism perpetrated by this guy? He always struck me as a good conservative editor and I could not find anything against him in his contributions. However, I wanted to check with you before unblocking him. --Ben Talk 10:27, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Well, Ben, even if you did, it would be reversed by Andy. Now, if you wish to discuss this, you know how to contact me, and you should know by now NOT to post publicly about these matters. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 14:21, 26 June 2007 (EDT)


I was already posting on Karajou's page when you left that question; I've left it all there simply to keep the discussion in one place. Hope that's OK :) File:User Fox.png Fox (talk|contribs) 20:24, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Not really my style to argue points with anal retentives. ;-) Check your Yahoo for offline messages, ok? --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 20:54, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

McCarthy article

TK, I want to apologize to you for my poor contributions to the McCarthy article. I was under the impression that my contributions were of a scholarly quality and not a "personal opinion piece" as you have stated. I have commented in that article and will immediately cease any further additions to the article and revert all of my contributions. I'm a bit tired this evening so if you don't mind, I'll perform the revert of my work tomorrow. Again, please accept my apologies for my sub-standard work. Scorpio 22:03, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Yes, perhaps if you get some rest, the drama level will subside. I said, on the talk page, I was uncomfortable with only two people, making bargains for how the article was going to read. Do you think it "scholarly" to horse-trade what facts, and how they are presented? Perhaps too much has been dealt with via email? Am I missing something? Did you think RobS was the only other editor on CP, beside yourself, interested in the topic? Your work is appreciated, Scorpio, always has been. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 02:28, 27 June 2007 (EDT)
TK, just so I do not repeat my response in more than one place, I adderessed your concerns at: [4]. Thank you. Scorpio 10:54, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

TK, I posted this on the McCarthy page and thought I would post it here as well. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm glad we had a chance to chat about it. I look forward to working with you here at Conservapedia. Also, can you please unlock the McCarthy page? I would appreciate it. Thank you. Scorpio 19:26, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

TK, thank you very much. Best Regards. Scorpio 21:09, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

"possible subHuman kind ?"

I'm hoping there's a hip sub-reference there that I'm not getting - otherwise that's a comment worthy of Der Steurmer, and not Conservapedia. Cheers. Guitarplayer 18:59, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

welcome message

How do you get your name in the welcome template? I always have to just sign after it. Bohdan 02:47, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

  • How do you get your friends to use AIM? :p --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 02:55, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

RE: The Socialism article

It seems you have reverted it back to the innacurate and misleading Marx/Engles/Lenin/Stalin picture, and then locked the page to further edits. I must say this saddens me. It truly is "wrong." There was enough discussion about it on the article's talk page. It's quite distressing. I don't support socialism, but I do support accuracy. And the page as it is, with that picture, is innacurate. Jros83 19:08, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

  • You are certainly free to contact sysop RobS, and speak to him about the matter, since you seem to have decided my intent and thoughts becuase you are possible a mentalist. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 19:10, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

You can delete this page

if you want, I'm done using it now. Thanks! --Colest 09:21, 29 June 2007 (EDT)


Hi Terry

All my blocks are for vandals. Some made very ugly contributions. Others, the name is clearly suggestive. Patrolling is for me not nice but necessary. If you think there are others that do this work better I will gladly stop doing it. I think my time is better used in other tasks. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 00:37, 30 June 2007 (EDT)

  • I think you are very valuable, but sometimes when people email, or message, it is hard to discern a reason when you leave the reason space blank, when the name isn't a clue. Hope that explains! --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 01:07, 30 June 2007 (EDT)


--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 08:23, 30 June 2007 (EDT)

Hojimachong's page

TK, Did you really mean to...

  • ...make the post you did on Hojimachong's user page rather than his talk page?
  • ...make the post you did as a continuation of the previous sentence (look at the rendered page if you don't understand that)?
  • ...ask him to include the date in his signature, when the signature and the date are two separate items? I don't know what prompted your comment to him, but ~~~ gives just the signature, ~~~~ gives the signature and date, and ~~~~~ gives just the date. Perhaps he accidentally just did ~~~?

Philip J. Rayment 07:33, 30 June 2007 (EDT)

  • I didn't mean to make it a run-on sentence. It was a in-joke, Philip. And all of his posts are now being made without the date, from the ones I have seen. Did you really mean to be a "minder" of his page? :p --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 07:50, 30 June 2007 (EDT)
Not a minder; I just noticed while going through my watchlist and figured that you didn't intend it to be the way it was (which turns out to be partly correct at least). Philip J. Rayment 09:34, 30 June 2007 (EDT)
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