User talk:Tash

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Welcome to Conservapedia. Please be sure to read the Conservapedia Commandments and enjoy edittin'. Premier Tom Mayfair 18:53, 19 March 2007 (EDT)

Wow, thanks for many grammar corrections to NCFCA! --Ed Poor 19:48, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

Thanks, I'm going to continue to try to improve the article this week. --Tash 19:57, 25 March 2007 (EDT)



Please provide Conservapedia with an amazing entry for NASCAR. Thank you for your attention in this matter. --Huey gunna getcha 16:43, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

What if I've never seen a NASCAR race in my life....--Tash 16:50, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

100 senators

If 100 senators agreed that would also be a miracle! However, I offer (in jest) that [this page] offers some compelling reasons to consider it. Richard 00:08, 27 March 2007 (EDT)

It would be a miracle.... although I would guess that it has happened before when they all voted for something completely meaningless. --Tash 00:15, 27 March 2007 (EDT)


Great photos! --Ed Poor 12:19, 2 April 2007 (EDT)


Maybe you should write up a few articles on current players for the Indianapolis Colts - that way nobody will think you're a Patriots hack.  :) --Rustyjd07 20:56, 3 April 2007 (EDT)

Sure I'll do Dan Klecko.... Colts fans probably won't want me to write their team page for obvious reasons.--Tash 22:27, 3 April 2007 (EDT)

It's obvious you're a Patriot hack, and who can blame you? The best team in football. It's pretty much the same as liking the Red Sox. BlackholeStorm

The Red Sox don't even approach the Patriots.... --Tash 17:15, 15 April 2007 (EDT)

Besides, they could only be compared to the Yankees. Dynasty to dynasty. Red Sox...pshhh :) --<<-David R->> 21:21, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

Yes, another Yankees fan exists in the world!--Tash 21:32, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

Haha, I had no idea....After the last few games, I do not know how long I will actually be a Yankees fan :( (kidding of course). But their pitching is horrendous. The only reason they're not in last place is A-Rod. --<<-David R->> 23:09, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

Well right now it looks like even A-Rod might not be able to save their season (have they ever been this bad?) --Tash 18:44, 5 June 2007 (EDT)


Is your name a reference to the Calormen god in C.S. Lewis's Chronicles of Narnia? --BenjaminS 17:16, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

Yep, you can get an idea for why I use the username here & here....

Seems to be a pointless joke of a blog. --CPAdmin1 18:54, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

Do you mean "blog" by post or the site as a whole?...--Tash 19:33, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

Welcome back!

Welcome back, Tash! It's great to more of your contributions again!--Aschlafly 21:03, 22 May 2007 (EDT)


Thanks Tash. Your support is appreciated. Crocoite Talk 00:19, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

Your templates

Hello Tash.

You were the creator of the {{Buffalo Bills Roster}} template, and perhaps others also. Since late May 2007, Conservapedia requires that all templates be properly documented. Please see Creating templates for instructions on this. If the template(s) are not documented, they will be deleted. Thank you for your co-operation in this.

Alternatively, if a particular template is no longer required, please ask a sysop to delete it.
Thanks for that.

(Miami Dolphins Roster also.) — Philip J. Rayment 06:05, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

This is a reminder that these templates have not yet be documented. Philip J. Rayment 09:01, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Ok, I sort of forgot about that. Thx for reminding me. I'll try to get that done as soon as possible.--Tash 12:38, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Just as well you said that. I was going to delete one today to force the issue (of course, it could be undeleted). And just to be clear, this refers to any and every template that you've created; not just the two mentioned above. Worst of luck for the contest (I'd wish you the best of luck, but you're on the other team!) :-) Philip J. Rayment 00:31, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

Let me know when the {{New England Patriots Roster}} template is no longer required, and I'll delete that also. Philip J. Rayment 20:53, 18 July 2007 (EDT)


Your like the only other person here who also likes Roger Clemens!--Will N. 15:32, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

The Yankees aren't exactly the most popular team in America--Tash 15:36, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Belated Thanks....

For your help with our mutual friend. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 19:14, 27 June 2007 (EDT)


If you could watch for vandal/socks that would be great. I have to get off now and they seem to be striking hard right now. They are using an IP adress that starts with 24.... Thanks--BethTalk 21:20, 5 July 2007 (EDT)

I don't think I have blocking compatibility's. It would be great if someone would give me them since I run into vandals all the time. Thanks for asking though--Tash 08:45, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

Sysop Nomination

Tash I've reviewed some of your edits and they are great. Why did you remove yourself from the sysop contest? Well, anyway I renominated you. --BethTalk 09:32, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for nominating me!--Tash 09:35, 7 July 2007 (EDT)

You deserve it!--BethTalk2ME 13:26, 7 July 2007 (EDT)

Blocking powers granted

Tash, in recognition of your contributions, you have been promoted to have blocking powers. You can now block users. Congratulations! In Christ, Aschlafly 10:57, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks! --Tash 09:35, 7 July 2007 (EDT)



How about joining us in Team 1?

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 20:20, 8 July 2007 (EDT)

Sure! I would be glad to join team one in the contest. Thanks!--Tash 23:31, 8 July 2007 (EDT)

Fine, You are IN. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 23:32, 8 July 2007 (EDT)

Please visit:

Rules, Team one and

Just Team1 players. The last one could take some time to be open for you by Andy. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 23:39, 8 July 2007 (EDT)

You need to make a new page for Contest Personal Record. Take a look here. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 18:28, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Will do. Thanks --Tash 18:31, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Excellent work today. Congratulations. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 23:01, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks--Tash 23:03, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

EXCELLENT DAY, KEEP PUSHING. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 23:51, 12 July 2007 (EDT)

Yep, I'm falling asleep on the keyboard... Thanks--Tash 23:53, 12 July 2007 (EDT)

Sorry, I haven't been contributing much lately. I've been very busy with work, family issues and Toastmasters. I would appreciate your input on the new section at the Team 1 contest page. --Crocoite 12:36, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

Last day today and they are not too far from us. Keep going. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 06:44, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Excellent work. Thank you. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 23:07, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Congratulations. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 08:24, 24 July 2007 (EDT)


Hi Tash

You have to protect your photos when uploading. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 00:15, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

Having upload rights does not give you the ability to protect pages. That's still only available to sysops. Philip J. Rayment 02:18, 15 July 2007 (EDT)
Yeah I can't protect pages right now. Hopeful soon though...:)--Tash 12:38, 16 July 2007 (EDT)


In Baseball Hall of Fame I am not sure of the spelling of this:

"Pitchers with 61 players-inductees have the higher Positional Frequency." 

Thank you in advance.

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 11:44, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

THANK YOU. Good work. Strike (3) ... --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 20:12, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

NBC anchor table

Tash, may I suggest that instead of using an embedded table you use a template for your NBC anchors. If you start with {{Tnavbox basic}} to create a style for the subject (tv anchors) you can then reuse the same style for different sub-topics, say ABC anchors. See what I did with {{Tnb zoid land}} and {{Nb zl felines}}. That way when functionality is added to the box, all existing nav boxes can benefit. Contact me if you need assistance. BrianCo 18:10, 21 July 2007 (EDT)

Tash, I created an intermediate template - {{Tnb tv news anchors}} - and then updated your template to match it. This way all TV news anchors get the same template and if it gets changed for some esthetic reason they all end oup the same without lots of editing. BrianCo 20:09, 21 July 2007 (EDT)

Team Contest

Congratulations! We won! DeborahB. 11:13, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

I hope you are as happy as I am!!! --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 21:52, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

I thought we had a really good chance at winning so I wasn't surprised that we did win but it was still a great thing to wake up to. YES!!!--Tash 22:21, 24 July 2007 (EDT)


Hi Tash,

Well I just went back to look at one of the guys I recently changed and saw you didn't care for it much. Sorry about that. So I guess I better make sure we're on the same page. Based on my understanding, sub-categories are supposed to be filled so that main categories don't get overloaded. So I set up New England Patriot Players as a sub-category of NFL players so they could be removed from the main NFL players spot. Is that ok with you? I'll wait to hear back before I touch anything else in that area. Learn together 00:20, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

If it's not ok with you, then I'll change back the 14 I have done that way. Learn together 01:09, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

Yeah I don't think we're exactly on the same page with this... but that's fine. Since Pats player's are both NEP players and NFL players I was using two category's but since there's a sub-category now they really only to be categorized under New England Patriot Players. Oh, and I wasn't trying to get into a edit war, I didn't notice that you had removed the NFL category, I thought I had just originally forgot to put the category on in the first place when I was checking/updating the pages last night. So go ahead and do what you're doing. Thanks --Tash 09:41, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
No problem ;-) I just want to make sure I'm not stepping on your toes. Obviously you spent a lot of time entering in the players and it's pretty much your baby. If you ever feel I'm going 'out of bounds' just let me know. ;-) BTW it was great having you on the team. It looks like we pulled off the comeback in our last day of the contest, but of course Conservapedia won either way. ;-) Learn together 11:11, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
Nope, it didn't bother me at all:) Thanks for recategorizing them.--Tash 11:54, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

Bill Monroe

The guy you have listed as the host of Meet the Press, "Bill Monroe", directs to the musician, not the journalist. Just FYI. U2 00:01, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for the help! I was wondering why I could not find his years as host:) --Tash 00:04, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

That country out there

Thanks. [1] I knew it was "one of those" ... ;-) --Ed Poor Talk 21:02, 31 July 2007 (EDT)

No problem:)--Tash 21:10, 31 July 2007 (EDT)

Meet the press navbox

May I suggest that you keep the same color format for navboxes of the same ilk? BrianCo 18:40, 6 August 2007 (EDT)

I notice that you created this navbox from scratch. This is not necessary as there is a deafult template for them. If you need any advice then let me know. BrianCo 18:55, 6 August 2007 (EDT)

Hi BrianCO,

Thanks for the suggestions. If I'm not mistaken the colors on the MtP navbox are the same( you may have already fixed them), but i'll make sure that their the same in the future. Feel free to edit the MtP and NBC navboxes as you like.

Thanks,--Tash 09:40, 7 August 2007 (EDT)

Talk Help

Hey Tash, if you have some time could you give me some direction here - I come to you because your a fairly experienced editor, and because I'm pretty sure I'm right, and (s)he's pretty sure they're right - it's leading to a conflict. Appreciate any help you can give, --Iduan 19:33, 10 August 2007 (EDT)

Good work!

Good eye with that vandal, Tash! Thanks for being so quick in reverting them. --şŷŝôρ-₮KṢρёаќǃ 14:23, 11 August 2007 (EDT)

Thanks, it appears he was trying to sneak in stuff that people won't notice for a while but his name kind of gave him away--Tash 14:30, 11 August 2007 (EDT)

Iowa results

Tash, I unprotected the Template:Mainpageright for you to post at the top your results from the Iowa straw poll, with a link to your entry. Thanks much!! Godspeed.--Aschlafly 21:45, 11 August 2007 (EDT)

Thank You! I'm a big Huckabee fan so I had a rooting interest in what happened and it was fun--Tash 22:02, 11 August 2007 (EDT)
Well done with the front page!!!! And congratulations ... this is a huge victory for Huckabee!!!!--Aschlafly 22:08, 11 August 2007 (EDT)

Why did you revert my edits?

They were legit! --Protocletos 15:39, 21 August 2007 (EDT)

Aaron Ross married in 1992? He's in his 20's. I'm going to be watching your edits--Tash 15:40, 21 August 2007 (EDT)
In his defense, the edit said "married", not born. Bohdan
Thank you, Bohdan. --Protocletos 15:45, 21 August 2007 (EDT)
ok, that's even worse, (I meant to write married...).... The point that is very unusual editing behavior--Tash 15:48, 21 August 2007 (EDT)
Tash, what do you think of these? [2][3] Rob Smith 16:29, 21 August 2007 (EDT)
Hummm... I don't know, looks ok:) Not quite sure whether it's true though but it doesn't look like vandeism--Tash 16:43, 21 August 2007 (EDT)
The gays-with-hemoroids [4] may have some scientific basis, probably needs investigating. But the Capitalism edit is pure trolling & vandalism, probably worth a days block. Rob Smith 16:58, 21 August 2007 (EDT)
Well as Director of Internal Counterintelligence you know what's the best course of action to take....:)--Tash 17:27, 21 August 2007 (EDT)

Human Rights Watch

Deletion reverted. Go to it! --Ed Poor Talk 21:41, 28 August 2007 (EDT)

  • Tash, it was pretty liberal slanted...please be careful with these kind of articles, okay?  :-) Thanks! --şŷŝôρ-₮KṢρёаќǃ 23:44, 28 August 2007 (EDT)
Actually, on re-reading it - the problem was not a "liberal slant" but a kind of Wikipedian NPOV. "It has been said that, some have criticized as, etc."
It's better to call a spade a spade, and give references. --Ed Poor Talk 23:56, 28 August 2007 (EDT)

Got ya, I don't think the article is liberal at all, but "critics claim" sort of is a weasel Wikipedian word so I'll work on editing that. They all have refs so it should be no problem.--Tash 09:27, 29 August 2007 (EDT)

Yes. It's okay to assert an idea as "fact" if the references are easily checked.
If HRW sides with the enemies of Israel, it should be easy to prove this by quoting them and by quoting analyses of their statements. --Ed Poor Talk 09:59, 29 August 2007 (EDT)

From the article Anti-Israel

The Israeli conflict with the Palestinians and Hezbollah has brought about serious questions of HRW objectivity. During the span of four years, from October 2000 to April 2004, HWR has written 103 reports, the vast majority of these reports condemned Israe l[39]. During the same time the organization only wrote thirty highlighting the Palestinian terror attack.

According to Gerald M. Steinberg, a research associate at the BESA Center for Strategic Studies, HRW has ignored the terrorist suicide attacks designed to kill innocent civilians, while criticizing Israel for a, “policy of targeted killing of terrorist leaders, such as Hamas leaders Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and ‘Abd al-‘Aziz ar-Rantisi[40] .” He goes on to state in his article that, “The political bias of non-governmentally organizations on the Middle East, coupled with their lack of public accountability and transparency, is beginning to chip away at their credibility[41] .”

In 2006, HRW released a 50 page report, "Fatal Strikes: Israel's Indiscriminate Attacks Against Civilians in Lebanon," which covered civilians deaths they claimed were caused by Israel in their conflict with the terrorist group Hezbollah. Israel stated that the many of the deaths were caused by Hezbollah’s use of civilian areas and human shields. HRW stated that there was no evidence that Hezbollah used human shields, but this notion was widely known as untrue. While focusing on Israel’s “indiscriminate bombing”, HRW failed to report significantly on Hezbollah’s launching of 2,000 rockets at civilian areas. HRW criticized Israel’s building of a fence in the West Bank, calling it part of an "illegal" land grab[42]. Anthony Weiner, a Democrat Congressman, was shocked at the idiosyncrasy of the charges, he stated, "Given that the security fence has inarguably reduced terrorism and death by would-be Palestinian bombers, it seems any organization truly concerned about human rights should be supporting Israel's right to construct it”[43]. Even a liberal newsmagazine, The New Republic, could not resist the slant of HRW coverage[44] . David Horowitz, professor of law at Harvard Law School, stated that Human Rights Watch was a, "reflexive Israel-basher … who, in his zest to pillory Israel at every turn, is little more than an ally of the barbarians[45]."

--Tash 10:10, 29 August 2007 (EDT)

Good collection of quotes. Let's help each other work them into the article(s). --Ed Poor Talk 10:15, 29 August 2007 (EDT)

That's from the HRW article already, at the bottom of the page underneath controversy. It's been there since the article was created--Tash 10:22, 29 August 2007 (EDT)

You devil ;-)

Turbaned, dark-skinned people called Calormenes, who worship a demon named Tash, also cause trouble - Lewis's view of Muslims couldn't be more explicit. [5] --Ed Poor Talk 12:17, 31 August 2007 (EDT)

C.S. Lewis, that old spin master... check out these links for the truth.... [6], [7], [8], [9]--Tash 14:18, 1 September 2007 (EDT)

How weird...

... I don't normally delete the contents from articles, even when I propose them for deletion. I can't imagine why I did it to that one football player, but I don't mind at all if you restore it. Don't know what got in to me. :p Aziraphale 13:48, 5 September 2007 (EDT)

No problem. For some reason I made two articles for the same player (Mike Richardson). I just forgot that i had the other one. My bad :), --Tash 14:01, 5 September 2007 (EDT)

Tom Tancredo picture?

We've had a request for a picture for Tom Tancredo, and since you seem to be our biggest uploader, I thought I'd ask you if you could possibly upload one? DanH 15:17, 7 September 2007 (EDT)

I'll take a shot at finding one--Tash 15:30, 7 September 2007 (EDT)
Done--Tash 15:35, 7 September 2007 (EDT)

Thanks a lot! I unprotected the article. DanH 18:42, 7 September 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for unlocking it, I've just added the picture to the article. --Tash 18:48, 7 September 2007 (EDT)

BaconN Picture

Sorry about that Tash. Did not realize you wanted to post anything on the picture page. I just moved your table over. Sorry!--BethTalk2ME 16:58, 8 September 2007 (EDT)

No problem! Thanks for moving it. --Tash 18:07, 8 September 2007 (EDT)


Could you email me and let me know what was wrong with the version of the editor you reverted? Thanks! --şŷŝôρ-₮KṢρёаќǃ 21:51, 10 September 2007 (EDT)


Do you know how to block proxys? I don't get it.--BethTalk2ME 20:40, 11 September 2007 (EDT)

I have no idea, sorry--Tash 20:41, 11 September 2007 (EDT)

OK! I'll have to ask Mr. Schafly.--BethTalk2ME 20:43, 11 September 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for blocking

Thanks for blocking. I was probably wasting my time trying to reason with a unreasonable person on a talk page. Sorry, I was asleep at the wheel. Conservative 21:09, 12 September 2007 (EDT)

No problem, they (or it) have been coming hard for the last fifteen minutes but I think everything is cleaned up--Tash 21:12, 12 September 2007 (EDT)

Net Present Value was not a Parody

I was having a little fun by assigning lower risk profiles to CP users than Wikipaedia users, but so be it. As I am a card-carrying liberal (bleeding heart division, no less) I thought you might enjoy it. No matter, take a look at what I put back to see if you are happy.--TraJSmith 14:22, 13 September 2007 (EDT)


I'm not entirely sure why you blocked my original account, User:NotASpy with no proper explanation, but I would be much obliged if you could unblock it forthwith. Kind Regards. NotATash 13:12, 16 September 2007 (EDT)

Why would a user name like Tash be okay but "Lovecraft" not? (Just a question.)BrumbleB 21:22, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

I like it! Maybe the name could be outlined or something? It is always the hardest thing to read in all of the versions I have seen..... --şŷŝôρ-₮KṢρёаќǃ 17:27, 16 September 2007 (EDT)

I can try, getting the name to be visible in spite of the background is the hardest part with making the logo. Back to work--Tash 17:30, 16 September 2007 (EDT)
WOW! The Yankees win, the Patriots win - and I get a award..... Great night!--Tash 23:33, 16 September 2007 (EDT)

Walter Cronkite

Thanks for the cats [10]. Do we have category for liberally biased media figures who fool the American public and change the course of history with false propaganda? --Ed Poor Talk 11:19, 19 September 2007 (EDT)

I don't believe we have a category on that yet. But if there was one created would it include current media figure, or just past ones? ---Tash 11:23, 19 September 2007 (EDT)

I'm looking for a way to tag anyone who "lied, and then people died". You know, the accusation the left is always making against Bush.

Did Walter Cronkite lie about the good side's ability to win the Vietnam War, and did this lie result in the deaths of one million people? If so, he should be "tagged" for this. --Ed Poor Talk 11:25, 19 September 2007 (EDT)

I know what you mean. I think it would be fine to create a category for that. Last night I was watching a documentary on the Vietnam War and I was amazed at the similarities regarding the media's effect on that war and the current war in Iraq. They sure know how to spin the story. --Tash 11:31, 19 September 2007 (EDT)

The Wilds page...

I am the original author of the article on Wikipedia. I cut it down a little bit though since there were some dead end links. Jason 16:04, 19 September 2007 (EDT)

Ok, great! I was looking at your edits and all of them have been productive so far so the copying didn't add up. Make sure in the future that you put in the summary box (if you copy one of your Wiki articles) that you were the original creator. Go ahead and repost it if you wish--Tash 17:11, 19 September 2007 (EDT)


I'm sorry, I've never edited this or Wikipedia before today, so I hope I'm doing this correctly. I believe that you sent me a message that said this:

This isn't Wikipedia - remember that

Sorry if this sounds stupid, but what do you mean? In the little I've done so far, I've tried to be unbiased in my edits. Have I sounded like an atheist or something? (I'm not)-Imperatoromnium


Congratulations!!!! (if you haven't looked yet, you're a team captain!!) :) DeborahB. 09:12, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

Wow, what does being a team captain entail? --Tash 12:21, 22 September 2007 (EDT)


Tash, as captain of the first team you can now pick your team. Choose about 5-6 teammates, and then the other captain (Sharon) will choose the same number.

In our prior contest, it took too long to pick teammates with alternating selections. This time, I've simply prepared a list for you to choose from. This list includes many of our top contributors so I think you can pick a very strong team. If, after selection, you feel their is an imbalance in team strength, then we can consider trades.

Please choose your team from this list (many of whom were on the winning Team 1 last time):

  • Joaquin Martinez
  • Jallen
  • HelpJazz
  • Crocoite
  • Additioner
  • Conservateur
  • SPierce
  • Learn together
  • DanH
  • Ed Poor
  • Karajou
  • TK

If you like, you can suggest additional teammates not on this list, but several members and friends of Sharon's prior team (which lost) already want to be on Sharon's team again to try harder this time and redeem the loss. So there is no guarantee that other choices are available. If you see someone strong who began posting in the last few days, then you can probably choose that person also.

One more thought: pick your mascot so we can use colorful names like the "panthers" rather than team 1! Godspeed.--Aschlafly 16:00, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

Ok, I've left comments on the (six) user pages of the guys that I've chosen for my team. I'm still trying to think of a good name (Hillary's Village People, The Vast Right Wing Conspirators, Ferocious Poodles, Reagan's Old Guard... still thinking as you can see) and I'll try to have one by Sunday afternoon. Once I get responses back where do I move from there?--Tash 19:16, 22 September 2007 (EDT)
OK, that's great, we'll go with team sizes of 7: the captain plus six teammates. I'll post a message on Sharon's user page asking her to pick her team. Let's tentatively plan on starting the contest on Tuesday, which will give time for the players to confirm their participation and for you to replace anyone who can make it. The contest runs one week. In the meantime the captains can pick mascots and settle on the point system. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 19:42, 22 September 2007 (EDT)


I'd be honored to. DanH 19:43, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

Great! You're in!--Tash 19:46, 22 September 2007 (EDT)


Hey Tash - is there any chance I could get in on the contest?--IDuan 22:08, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

I've already "picked" my team but I'll keep you in mind if someone drops out. I'm not sure if Sharon has picked her team yet so she might be a better person to ask--Tash 22:13, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

Tash, we'll start the contest Friday to give the captains more time to form their teams. Thanks and Godspeed.--Aschlafly 12:20, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

Are we using the same rules/scoring as the last contest? HelpJazz 22:23, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
  • Hey, Tash, can you slap up a team list or something? I assume we could use the old team pages? Can you find out? Thanks! --şŷŝôρ-₮KṢρёаќǃ 00:03, 25 September 2007 (EDT)

The team so far

  • HelpJazz
  • Crocoite
  • Learn together
  • DanH
  • TK
  • Tash
  • Ed Poor (pretty sure)

We may need to add another person depending on how many people Sharon picks for her team--Tash 08:06, 25 September 2007 (EDT)

Tash, Have you seen this? Team_Galaxy --Crocoite 18:12, 26 September 2007 (EDT)

Yep, I was just about to ask for some suggestions for the team's name. If anyone has any ideas post them here and then I'll get to work (unless someone else on the team really like to do it:) on making our team page. Thanks--Tash 18:43, 26 September 2007 (EDT)
Heh heh let's see.... Our team is made up of 6 conservatives and 1 lonely libertarian. I think we should call ourselves "Team Affirmative Action"! Heh, the other team is almost all girls (sorry Andy) maybe we could just call ourselves "The Good Old Boys". HelpJazz 18:54, 26 September 2007 (EDT)
Other then Aschlafly, Galaxy is a all girl team.... thanks for the suggestions:)--Tash 18:58, 26 September 2007 (EDT)
Need input here so I can start our team page - should it be the "Good Old Boys" or something else?
I'm fine with G.O.B. HelpJazz

I'm fine with it, anyone else?--Tash 22:48, 26 September 2007 (EDT)

Whatever you guys like, I am fine with. GOB is kinda bad, lol. --şŷŝôρ-₮KṢρёаќǃ 23:30, 26 September 2007 (EDT)
I don't really like GOB, and the mascot should really have a graphic. --Crocoite 14:19, 27 September 2007 (EDT)
Ok I've settled on at least the temporary name of Team Airborne. This name is subject to change but since the contest starts tomorrow I thought I mine as well pick something...will be working on the page tonight(--Tash 16:55, 27 September 2007 (EDT)
I like the name - Team Airborne. --Crocoite 16:58, 27 September 2007 (EDT)

Our team page is now here--Tash 19:34, 27 September 2007 (EDT)

Scoring System

We need to agree on any changes to the basic point system outlined here. I suggest only 1/3rd credit for sports-related entries, unless the sports figure has a significant impact (like Evander Holyfield).--Aschlafly 22:59, 26 September 2007 (EDT)


I couldn't help but notice that you apparently traveled back to "16:40, 24 September 2007 (EDT)" to welcome a bunch of users. As amusing as that is, I think you should copypaste {{welcome|sig=~~~~}} instead :P --Jenkins 20:06, 25 September 2007 (EDT)

Yep! I still forget that it's 2007 and not 2006...thanks for pointing that out:>--Tash 20:10, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
Sure thing :P And thanks for catching my slip-up in Carbohydrates! --Jenkins 20:22, 25 September 2007 (EDT)

I have sent you an important email!

--şŷŝôρ-₮KṢρёаќǃ 20:21, 27 September 2007 (EDT) I saw.... my bad:(--Tash 20:51, 27 September 2007 (EDT)

Team page

Nice job on the airborne team page! CPWebmaster 21:26, 27 September 2007 (EDT)

Thanks--Tash 21:27, 27 September 2007 (EDT)


Hey Tash - I heard that there might be a team member that has a schedule conflict (or something like that) - so I'd just like to make a quick post just to say that if anything does happen - I'd still be very interested in joining your team - thanks so much! --IDuan 23:22, 27 September 2007 (EDT)

Yeah, I haven't heard back from one person so if they don't get back to me you're in--Tash 08:34, 28 September 2007 (EDT)
Tash, add as many players as you like. Let's handle the imbalance in teammates as follows: only the top 7 scorers will count towards the team total at the end. OK? Godspeed.--Aschlafly 11:44, 28 September 2007 (EDT)
That's actually a really good idea. Great!--Tash 12:47, 28 September 2007 (EDT)

I think you are a sysop

PostoStudanto -- This guy seems like a troublemaker--maybe you could look at his 90/10 violations. Mathers 20:05, 28 September 2007 (EDT)

No I'm not a sysop but I'll take a look at the situation:) Thanks--Tash 20:11, 28 September 2007 (EDT)
After looking at his edits I think it's clear that he's one of our liberals residents.... He doesn't have close to 90 edits yet so I don't believe the 90/10 rule has kicked in yet but hopeful he'll become more productive and supportive of the site soon as he can stick around.--Tash 20:17, 28 September 2007 (EDT)

Team Contest

Hi Tash! Do you have a total number of points for Team Airborne for days one and two? I'm coming up with 564 points, based on the records listed on your team's page. Is that near what you have? Also, the total for Team Galaxy, as of 9:23 EST is 769.5 points. Thanks much, ~ SharonTalk 21:27, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

I haven't added up day two's points yet, but I'm going to do it soon. As far as the points for day one, the number on the main page is wrong because it doesn't take into account Learn together's edits (because they were not recorded until this afternoon). So for day one the amount of points for Airborne was 512 (Tash: 133pt, Crocoite: 69pt, Ed Poor: 28pt, TK:6pt, Iduan: 14pt , Learn together: 256pt, HelpJazz: 6). I'll try to have todays points out soon. Thanks, --Tash 21:49, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
Thank you. I see that Learn together has some edits from today that I didn't count, because once again, they weren't recorded. I thought that your score seemed rather too low to be true :) Let me know once you have it worked out, and I will post the scores on the main page. Thanks, ~ SharonTalk 21:53, 29 September 2007 (EDT)


Hey Tash - in order to keep track of points more easily I was thinking we would do seomthing like what Team Galaxy did - place the top 7 contributors on their page with their total points. Can you confirm what I have so far?

  • Crocoite = 117 pts (estimated by me)
  • DanH = 28 pts
  • EdPoor = 28 pts
  • HelpJazz = 34 pts
  • LearnTogether = 322 pts
  • TK = 6 pts
  • Tash = 210 pts
  • Iduan = 64 pts

And then the top 7 would be LearnTogether, you, Crocoite, me, EdPoor, DanH and then Help Jazz/TK - which would bring the total (minus 6 pts since we have 8 members) to: 571. Does that look right?

Yes, thats fine. I'll try to do that after I figure out the total. Thanks, --Tash 22:08, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
I have just updated my point total for day two (28 points), bringing up my day two total to 34. I'm probably done for the night so I shouldn't mess up your calculating for the rest of the night ;-) HelpJazz 22:23, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

No problem! Feel free to update it.--Tash 22:24, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

I've moved the points list over to our Team Airborne page, so you can update it there. --Tash 22:33, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
Ok - I'll watch everyone's page and I'll try to update it whenever possible - however - can I ask how you got the Crocoite number? When I went to his /contest page I thought he had less showing - but I guess I could be wrong.--IDuan 22:52, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
I looked through his contributions and estimated. The number is not exact, but its close (once he post his points, I can change to the exact number). --Tash 09:27, 30 September 2007 (EDT)


Haha, Tash - make an edit - quick! Based on what you just added to your contest page - the total of Learn together's edits (322) and your's (344) add to 666!!!! lol--IDuan 19:33, 30 September 2007 (EDT)


I have sent you an email HelpJazz 10:29, 3 October 2007 (EDT)

We'll miss you for the next few days!

Tash, we'll miss you for the next few days! Enjoy.--Aschlafly 10:56, 8 October 2007 (EDT)

Welcome back!--Aschlafly 22:26, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Thanks, it's good to be back--Tash 23:07, 13 October 2007 (EDT)


Thanks for the help on National Geographic Society , I wasn't sure how to do the references, now I know for next time! And I had no idea at all what category it should go in! You've always been such a help, even the first week I joined (back in March or April (?)) and you helped me figure out how to upload images, I appreciate it! Taj 20:44, 15 October 2007 (EDT)

No problem, always glad to help. Thanks--Tash 20:44, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

Presidential Candidates

  • Since you find it a pain, them being locked, you will now have the responsibility of patrolling them, and keeping the liberal vandalism out of them, okay? We cannot have some locked, and the others not, because people then complained that was unfair, not equal. But I know we can count on you to constantly watch all of them, so no worries! --şŷŝôρ-₮K/Ṣρёаќǃ 18:58, 17 October 2007 (EDT)
I'll do my best, thanks TK--Tash 19:05, 17 October 2007 (EDT)

would you look at user: Namo's edit

he is a vandal. Thanks ItMathers 21:33, 17 October 2007 (EDT)

Flanders role on McCarthy Page

The talk page has been locked on the Joseph McCarthy page. So, it's difficult to address any issues pertaining to the page. To wit, there are unsubstatiated statements in italics referring to Senator Flanders's initiative to censure the Senator from Wisconsin:

While, over the past few years, Senator McCarthy withstood countless biased and unsubstantiated attacks by Liberals, Communists, etc., the organized effort to remove McCarthy from his Chairmanship and officially condemn him began in the Spring of 1954. It was started by fellow Republican Senator Ralph E. Flanders of Vermont at the behest of a coalition of Communists, Liberals, and Eisenhower Administration officials. Flanders told the Senate that McCarthy's "anti-Communism so completely parallels that of Adolf Hitler as to strike fear into the hearts of any defenseless minority"; accused McCarthy of spreading "division and confusion" and saying, "Were the Junior Senator from Wisconsin in the pay of the Communists he could not have done a better job for them."[97] Flanders had obtained his list of charges against McCarthy from a left-wing group named the National Committee for an Effective Congress.

The citable literature suggests that Flanders felt that McCarthy's emphasis on possible Communists within our borders distracted us from a much greater menace of Communist encroachment abroad. The literature shows Flanders to be a conservative marching to his own drummer and not supported (except for one note from Eisenhower after his March speech) by the administration. Given Flanders's professed enmity towards the Roosevelt administration, it is remarkable to suggest that he would be in collaboration with the National Committee for an Effective Congress. Instead, he consulted with Senators Cooper and Fulbright to develop articles of censure that were consistent with previous actions.

I request that the italicized statements be either deleted or substantiated with proper references. User:Norwich 10/21/07


I appreciate your concern. I'm sorry that you consider what I'm doing "playing," I'd appreciate more respect than that. I'm really not liberal at all; I'm sorry you made that assumption. I'm also sorry you thought my edit was an "attack." It's not an attack to state the objective truth. I have nothing against Conservapedia, my only commitment is to the truth. The edits I made are really undisputable facts. I found other instances of photo bias on both liberal and convervative Conservapedia pages; I just didn't think it was necessary to note the instances of photo bias against conservatives since some examples are already given. Photo bias is a tactic, and tactis are neither liberal or conservative. Beliefs, views, policy positions, etc are things that can be liberal or conservative. Photo bias and other tactics can be used to advance any agenda, liberal or conservative (unless you're disputing this point). I know what would need to go on a talk page and what is fine without. I have no problem with Conservapedia, but there is a difference in writing an article from a conservative point of view and lying. I can understand reasonable people in general can disagree whether something should be put on the talk page or can go straight to the article (although I really don't see it in this case), but if you choose to interpret a statement of fact as an attack on Conservapedia and try to bully in order to get your way, that's your prerogative. I hoped to stick around, but it's honestly not worth my time if these kinds of threats continue.

Cheers, MWH

Your edits to photo bias deserved to be reverted for several reasons. First, Conservapedia discloses its point-of-view while the New York Times does not. Second, the photo bias by the New York Times is not simply a matter of making someone look unflattering, but rather to push an ideology.--Aschlafly 21:32, 9 November 2007 (EST)


Tash, we need to get you in the Contest3. Can you compete? It starts tomorrow, and please sign up at Contest3. Thanks.--Aschlafly 21:45, 11 November 2007 (EST)

I have college applications and am intensively working on debate stuff right now so I don't really have much spare time. If no one else wants to fill the slot though you can add me to the team however. I probably won't have much time to contribute though.--Tash 22:16, 11 November 2007 (EST)
Sorry you are not in the Contest.  :( --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 21:07, 17 November 2007 (EST)


Hey Tash - how come you reverted me on the New England Patriots page? I've been making templates like that for quite a few teams now - and this is the first revert I've gotten (and you also changed the spacing to be wrong again)--16:34, 25 November 2007 (EST)

We went through this months (June) ago when I started to do the same thing and ended up having to have all the templates deleted(see [11]). Also, I really didn't think the template was an improvement over the old roster and also contained a copyrighted photo.--Tash 16:39, 25 November 2007 (EST)
Well to start with, the photo wasn't copyrighted - i can show you the commons search engine i found it on, and I guess I could just add the text directly, however as far as an improvement goes - well, to start with, the template had the updated roster - there are a few mistakes in that one there now, and secondly the template used official team colors - as opposed to guessing about colors.--IDuan 16:41, 25 November 2007 (EST)

The photo isn't copyrighted?? Would you mind giving a source for where you got it then to prove that?--Tash 16:45, 25 November 2007 (EST)

Sure - well, I can't can't you the exact page - i'll look for that in a bit if you insist, however I used this website here, and made sure the picture was oen that could be used for commercial purposes and edited. And in response to your "we went over this in June" - the reason your templates were deleted is because they were not documented - I have documented the ones you saw--IDuan 16:50, 25 November 2007 (EST)

I actually did document them and we decided to get rid of them anyways since they were only going to be used on one page. I've been around for a while kid so don't act like you know everything. The only reason why there is an NFL section on this site is because I built it.--Tash 16:53, 25 November 2007 (EST)

And I ask again - where is the source for the photo. The link just went to a site home page.--Tash 16:54, 25 November 2007 (EST)
  • Tash, you have acted properly in this case, and there is no need for you to justify it. Iduan, I suggest you stop picking needless fights that I will end up adjudicating, and not, most likely in a way you will like! Cease now! --şyŝoρ-₮K/Ṣρёаќǃ 17:00, 25 November 2007 (EST)
TK we're discussing how to do the template - not every disagreement is a fight. Tash - if you can look at the other edit I did move it to a subpage so that it's not technically a template - and this is something we've done before - see the HTML Table Formatting page for an example :) --IDuan 17:02, 25 November 2007 (EST)
Oh sorry about that Tash - I didn't give you the link again here it is - now the yahoo says it "may be subject to copyright" - however again I've guaranteed we can use it with that website. Oh and the link to the subpage is New England Patriots/Roster--IDuan 17:04, 25 November 2007 (EST)

Well, I can guaranteed that those photo are 100% copyrighted and it is unethical to use them on this site (something we went over way back...the sports teams userbox's disc.)--Tash 17:08, 25 November 2007 (EST)

Well again, the search engine that doesn't allow me to even see copyright images would disagree with you, but in that case should I just re-add the updated table then (without the picture until we get the pic sorted out) - because again, mine is actually using team colors - and it's updated - there were a few expired players on the other one.--IDuan 17:13, 25 November 2007 (EST)
did you happen to read this (This image may be subject to copyright) right beside the photo? I think the case on the photo is closed. It's most likely copyrighted and you can't prove otherwise. The colors on the current roster box (red, blue and silver) are the official team colors so I'm not sure what you are talking about there and the roster does not contain any errors.--Tash 17:15, 25 November 2007 (EST)
Actually I explained that already - the "This image may be' part - I believe I did so 3 comments up - just before TK's comment. As to the Colors - I used specific colors from the logo, that are more accurate than 'red blue and silver'. And I think you'll find if you look it over - the roster does contain errors, however regardless - baby steps. I'm going to change the color pattern to the more specific one, if you don't mind - and I might change some style elements of it - like centering.--IDuan 17:18, 25 November 2007 (EST)
Oh - and I took out some arbitrary code that didn't affect the template at all (like the extra rows)--IDuan 17:19, 25 November 2007 (EST)
Oh wow - really sorry about this - you were right about the mistakes. The source that I went to used a strange method of sorting out players that I didn't notice- sorry. Oh and by the way I just did the style changes --IDuan 17:23, 25 November 2007 (EST)

Ok great, excellent job.--Tash 17:24, 25 November 2007 (EST)

ahh, thanks so much! Again, really sorry about that misunderstanding - I'm never using that website again. Anyways - just wanted to quickly congratulate you on how well you've done that page (I'm assuming you've done most of it since your the huge Patriots fan). You really stayed balanced in the scandal issue and the history-table was really impressive - that must have taken a lot of research! Great job! (And one more question: how sure are you that the Patriots will go undefeated this year?)--IDuan 17:27, 25 November 2007 (EST)

Yeah, the Patriots should go undefeated this year as long as Brady stays healthy. Well, to wrap up this discussion, great job on your side of not just rolling over to what I said without checking for yourself. We need more people on this site like that. Glad we could come to an agreement:)--Tash 17:32, 25 November 2007 (EST)

  • You will need to document your changes and creation of templates, some of which I cannot find were ever approved, gentlemen. --şyŝoρ-₮K/Ṣρёаќǃ 17:52, 25 November 2007 (EST)
That's to me. TK I'm going to propose the templates I created for deletion and move them to subpages (where they aren't really templates )- sorry I didn't get them approved beforehand, but they'll be gone as soon as I move them--IDuan 17:56, 25 November 2007 (EST)
  • Please, please.....keep the entries labeled templates. Discard the other transcluded pages. Let me know when you are done, and I will delete the second set of pages you created. Please do not apply speedy or delete templates to them, just link me to them on my talk page. A "template" by any other name, is still acting as a template. They still need to be protected against vandals, etc. I know there isn't anyway you should have known all of this, and appreciate you making the extra effort, Issac! --şyŝoρ-₮K/Ṣρёаќǃ 22:31, 25 November 2007 (EST)

Reason for deletion?

Why was my question deleted from the Adam talk page? It was not vandalism, merely a genuine enquiry.DarkMessiah 13:01, 6 December 2007 (EST)

Because it was dumb and had no productive value. Figure out a way to become productive fast or you may be blocked--Tash 13:53, 6 December 2007 (EST)
I've blocked him for a day. We'll see if his quality improves after that. Learn together 17:31, 6 December 2007 (EST)
Very well. A reason was all I required.DarkMessiah 15:42, 8 December 2007 (EST)


Hi Tash, thank you for your question.

If you read my profile you can see the answer;

"I teach at a prominent Melbourne University, so luckily I already have a handy set of coursenotes with which I can add to our disease collection (if you haven't beaten me there first!). DrMaine

I must also thank my students, as many of the notes I have collected on rare diseases were constructed by them as homework tasks."

OK, and of course you are editing during your lunch break...--Tash 12:26, 18 December 2007 (EST)

B-52 Stratofortress

Compliments on this page. I look forward to covering military aviation, as it is one ofmy passions. I wil stick to medicine first as you guys are doing a great job of it already.DrMaine


It is quite late. Almost 4am! I do late ER shifts as part of my belief in community service. It gets quiet here, so i get a chance to do some conservapedia work too! I am leaving to go home soon for some well earned rest!

Well, well... I must congratulate you...--Tash 12:39, 18 December 2007 (EST)
Well, well, where are U? --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 01:48, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
Busy with life. All the infighting and lack of appreciation made other things more important "priority's" than Conservapedia.--Tash 11:13, 5 April 2008 (EDT)
I am sure you are appreciated here by many. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 11:30, 5 April 2008 (EDT)
Hey, we need u! --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 21:06, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
Still --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 14:55, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Human rights in HRW's See Also

Hello, I just put Human rights in the Human Rights Watch article, since that's what the organization is about (or at least that's what its name seems to say), is it right for the link to be there? WilliamH 19:23, 9 April 2008 (EDT)

I see no reason why it shouldn't be there--Tash 19:44, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
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