User talk:TheAmericanRedoubt

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Hello, TheAmericanRedoubt, and welcome to Conservapedia!

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Thanks for reading, TheAmericanRedoubt!

Joaquín Martínez 23:36, 30 March 2014 (EDT)

Hi Joaquín Martínez. Thanks. I have read it. Did I do something wrong in my edits? Thanks.


ISP use only

You will cease from using proxies to access the site. Karajou 03:05, 25 April 2014 (EDT)

Maybe his IP address is blocked due to no fault of his own. Andy could unblock it if we had an email for him to write to as far as him giving Andy his IP address. Conservative 06:15, 25 April 2014 (EDT)
I sent you an e-mail, my ISP's IP is blocked. I blanked my IP address here for security reasons.

From: To: Subj: User_talk:TheAmericanRedoubt - Proxy due to blocked ISP address Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 06:07:00 -0600 Good morning User:Karajou and User:Conservative. Please unblock my dedicated IP address of __________.

I have been enjoying editing and contributing to Conservapedia (my favorite source for Conservative viewpoints-news-knowledge). However, early on after creating my user account (User_talk:TheAmericanRedoubt) my dedicated ISP address of ________________ was blocked and I was forced to sign up for a VPN- Proxy in order to even see the site. I get a "Error 118 (net::ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT): The operation timed out."

No one else at my ISP uses my IP address since I pay extra each month to have it dedicated to just me. I have been with that ISP since Dec. 2013.

I would love to continue working on content. For now, as I peruse each article of interest, I just correct spelling errors-typos and adding hyperlinks or See Also as appropriate based on Conservapedia:Quick_reference and Conservapedia:Editing_article_and_talk_pages until I can slowly establish to you administrators my sincerity and respect for this great resource.

Thank you in advance for unblocking my address. God bless. Sincerely, User:TheAmericanRedoubt 17:09, 26 April 2014 (EDT)

Redirect pages

Please place a lower priority on redirect pages and focus more on content creation. Conservative 06:10, 25 April 2014 (EDT)

Communist Party USA


I noticed that you added Category:Communist Party USA to several pages. Please bear in mind that Conservapedia Commandment #1 applies to categories, and take special care to ensure that the categories of articles about living people do not include defamatory or unsourced content. Thanks, GregG 20:36, 3 November 2014 (EST)

Thank you for the advice, I will keep that in mind. TheAmericanRedoubt

Orphaned Pages

Hi, I see you are interested in doing administrative tasks, so would you please help us to de-orphan all Lonely pages from here?--JoeyJ 14:44, 1 December 2014 (EST)

Sure JoeyJ, I'd be happy to help. Any guidelines? I searched under Conservapedia:Orphan_pages but couldn't find anything. Should I base my work on as generic advice? TheAmericanRedoubt 14:58, 1 December 2014 (EST)

Thank you! Just take an article from Special:LonelyPages and link to it from another article. For example I did so with Biodynamic agriculture.--JoeyJ 15:07, 1 December 2014 (EST)
Got it. Thanks for the quick response. Will do. TheAmericanRedoubt 15:10, 1 December 2014 (EST)
You are doing a lot of needed work at Conservapedia. Keep up the good work! Conservative 22:47, 1 December 2014 (EST)

Red Links

The proliferation of red wikilinks in your edits reminds me of the Walrus and the Carpenter:

The walrus and the carpenter were walking close at hand,
They wept like anything to see such quantities of sand.
"If seven maids with seven brooms swept for half a year,
Do you suppose," the walrus said, "that they could get it clear?"
"I doubt it " said the carpenter, and wept a bitter tear.
I have tended to sweep up after me the links I have generated in my 200odd thousand words of edits here. Who has the job of sweeping up the multiple links you are throwing around with gay (ahem) abandon? I think you should start sweeping, boyo, because, from bitter experience, I know no one else is going to do it. AlanE 22:29, 10 December 2014 (EST)

Article Creation for Red Links

Thank you Alan for your concerned advice and great Walrus and Carpenter quote. Being an amateur radio ham operator, I have a lot of articles on that I have been working on and will be pasting them in soon. The amateur radio area has been a big source of my new "red links" for article wiki-links. Same thing in the area of economics-finance. I do indeed intend to sweep up after my red links. TheAmericanRedoubt 22:43, 10 December 2014 (EST)

Thank you. Appreciate the reply. AlanE 22:54, 10 December 2014 (EST)

See also and Contrast

Although I am only very new here, I don't think your see also and contrast with sections look very nice or add much to the articles. Having such info in an popup box like they have on some wikipedia pages might be a better way to go. Phil PhilH 02:43, 11 December 2014 (EST)

Thanks - Popup Box Suggestion

Hi Phil, thanks for the suggestion, I will look into doing a popup box nav bar instead. Thanks for the feedback. Welcome to Conservapedia. TheAmericanRedoubt 02:46, 11 December 2014 (EST)

NOTE to Fellow Editors and Admins: Over the next few days, I am working on a collapsible "See Also" navigation template for the diverse topics of the Internet security article I am also working on. The template will be based on the Template:Liberalism "look and feel" since it has a lot of topics in a small amount of "real estate". Also, please note that I plan to rapidly submit articles for the "red links". Thank you for your patience. TheAmericanRedoubt 12:10, 11 December 2014 (EST)

See Also for "Internet security" article

NOTE to Fellow Editors and Admins: I plan to do the same thing for the bottom of page collapsible navbar for for the diverse topics of the Amateur radio article and related articles I am also working on as a licensed ham radio operator. TheAmericanRedoubt 12:10, 11 December 2014 (EST)

Please do not edit this (without discussing it here first) until January 1, 2015. Thank you. TheAmericanRedoubt 21:36, 11 December 2014 (EST)

See Also for Amateur Radio

Here is the original topic list I am working on:

The same thing as above goes for the Permaculture article and for Firearms article.


  1. "Help make mass surveillance of entire populations uneconomical! We all have an unalienable right to privacy, which you can exercise today by encrypting your communications and ending your reliance on proprietary products and services."

Moved your general message to Conservapedians to the community portal

I moved your your general message to Conservapedians to the community portal located at:

It will be seen by more people that way. Conservative 01:32, 13 December 2014 (EST)

Thank you

Thanks, I didn't know about that portal. I will spend some time on it. TheAmericanRedoubt 02:35, 13 December 2014 (EST)

No problem. Glad I could be of help. Conservative 10:06, 13 December 2014 (EST)

Moved it back

I have "userfied" your material. "Userfication" is the process of keeping drafts of one's material in a subpage of their own user or talk pages until it's ready to be moved into mainspace. That (sort of) protects it from other people making "helpful edits" while one is working on it. It will also be safer from vandalism, though I assume you know that vandalism is easy to revert, since material is preserved in a page's history, and that, in any case, you can keep a copy (as I always do) on your own computer.

The userfied page is here: User talk:TheAmericanRedoubt/sandbox1.

The place to tell people about your experience in amateur radio, communications technology, computers, gardening, medicine, firearms, and survivalism is your own user page.

SamHB 10:13, 13 December 2014 (EST)

    • Thanks for the help and clarification SamHB. Will do.

Workspace area for you

I created a workspace for your prepper material since someone deleted the material from the community portal.

Here is the workspace: User: TheAmericanRedoubt Prepper material

I hope that helps. Conservative 10:14, 13 December 2014 (EST)

A lot of helpful people today! SamHB 10:16, 13 December 2014 (EST)
Thank you for moving it to there. TheAmericanRedoubt 00:14, 14 December 2014 (EST)
Your very welcome and happy holidays this Christmas season. Conservative 00:43, 14 December 2014 (EST)
Merry Christmas Conservapedians! TheAmericanRedoubt 00:59, 14 December 2014 (EST)

re: talk pages

Thanks for creating a ton of new material. We appreciate it.

Second, try to avoid creating short talk pages unless something needs to be discussed about the article. I created a workspace for you called User: TheAmericanRedoubt/IP camera

Again, thanks for creating all the new useful content about preparednesa and other matters. Conservative 16:49, 15 December 2014 (EST)

    • Happy to contribute to this great body of conservative knowledge and become part of the Conservapedia community. "Roger" that on the talk pages. Will do. So then is there no need to explain myself via a talk page if I revert someone else's edits of, for instance, appropriately related Categories / See Also that I added? Just make the changes and re-add the deleted Categories and See Also? Thanks again for your guidance for me as a bit of a newby. TheAmericanRedoubt 16:56, 15 December 2014 (EST)
I respectfully disagree with Cons's advice, and have posted something on the Community Portal on the subject. You most certainly should feel free to explain any reversions, or anything else, on the talk page of the affected page. That's what the talk pages are for. SamHB 17:10, 15 December 2014 (EST)
The talk pages are for discussions and not for keeping notes. I thought you were using the talk page to keep notes. You don't need to use a talk page to explain yourself. Just need the talk page for discussions about the articles. Conservative 21:49, 15 December 2014 (EST)

Quote from PHIL on "wiki content" and "wikifying"

"You should wikify your content and contributions. Some of the stuff you have been adding, like the parts of the walmart and grocery store sections i removed have no place on a wiki or online encyclopedia. Phil PhilH 17:41, 15 December 2014 (EST)"


"A lot of the content you are adding seems to be rubbish, what is the point of adding new content if it rubbish? Phil PhilH 17:51, 15 December 2014 (EST)"

Response to PhilH

I respectfully yet strongly disagree with PhilH's comment on my User Talk Page and deletions of my contributions to Wal-Mart and Grocery store regarding "Just in Time" contributions and its ramifications. Conservatives are concerned much more than liberals with the stability of society and its systems of support. So, Just in Time is a key concept to understanding both the success and fragility of American retail and manufacturing.

My response to Phil's deletions of my Just in Time content and other statements

I have re-added this content since the main business model of both Wal-Mart and Grocery stores are predicated on the Just in time or JIT delivery system. Without it, Wal-Mart or grocery stores would not exist in anything resembling their current form.

If you wish to show how this is inappropriate on a Conservative Wiki Encyclopedia, then please elaborate, Phil. I can give you examples of other encyclopedia's and article on the Internet that address this major component of the American retail system. TheAmericanRedoubt 18:01, 15 December 2014 (EST)

Awaiting Response from User:Conservative or other Sysops

Since I have been spending and will be spending a lot of time creating content and you, Phil, seem to think it is "rubbish" and revert my contributions without any talk page discussion on the actual article page, I will await Special:ListUsers&group=sysop guidance, from User:Conservative or others.

Phil, as you said since you are "very new here", I am curious also to see what actual useful content you will be adding to Conservapedia rather than deletions and reverts. Special:Contributions/PhilH

TheAmericanRedoubt 18:25, 15 December 2014 (EST)

Ignore trolls (rude people). You can try to reason with someone who is acting a little gruff. But no sense wrestling with a proverbial pig in the proverbial mud. Feel free to steamroll over people who persist in being rude. You can ask an admin to mediate or ban a rude person. 22:23, 15 December 2014 (EST)

re: tips about external links

Thanks for your recent contributions.

Two external link tips:

1. Avoid use of barelinks.

These are barelinks: Letter Letter

Instead format the links like this:

2. Avoid mentioning the link was featured on the main page because people finding articles of yours via the search engines or though social media are not familiar with with our main page news feed. In addition, news becomes less newsworthy as time passes.

Again, thanks for your recent contributions. We appreciate them. Conservative 01:51, 16 December 2014 (EST)

Important note

50% of a web articles credibility by web visitors is determined by how it looks. It may not be fair, but people do judge a book by its cover. Please do not use bare links. In the "See also" section of this article Constitutional carry, you have bare links. If you could please fix the formatting and not use bare links anymore, it would be appreciated. See discussion directly above about bare links. Conservative 04:37, 18 December 2014 (EST)

I fixed the first bare link in your template. Please fix the rest. Conservative 04:43, 18 December 2014 (EST)

Thanks for the Mentoring and Support

Will do. Again, I appreciate the mentoring and support since, although I am very technical, I haven't done much Wiki editing in a large community context like Conservapedia. So, my over-enthusiasm may need to be reined in sometimes or at least given a format and guidelines. I have a lot of free time for the next 30 days while on sabbatical and spending many hours editing Conservapedia seems a good way to invest it to share my enthusiasm for the Conservative-Libertarian-Patriot-Prepper movement. TheAmericanRedoubt 02:00, 16 December 2014 (EST)

quick note

If you need help with how to do the edits in terms of formatting, I suggest two things:

1. Look how other people did the formatting on other Conservapedia articles.

2. Ask an admin such as User: Karajou and User: Aschlafly how to do various types of edits.

I am currently working on some projects and January I will be even busier, so unfortunately I can no longer be of assistance to you. Best wishes in your future editing. Conservative 02:04, 16 December 2014 (EST)

Editing Privileges after 12:30 PM PST?

Got it. Regarding Editing Privileges after 12:30 PM Pacific Standard Time: Would you please tell me who do I talk to and how do I request such privileges?

TheAmericanRedoubt 02:14, 16 December 2014 (EST)

User: Aschlafly grants night editing. Conservative 03:10, 16 December 2014 (EST)
Lovely. Thank you and Merry Christmas! TheAmericanRedoubt 03:12, 16 December 2014 (EST)

re: quick note about sacramento talk page and other talk pages

I just wanted to be polite to you and explain something. I deleted the Sacramento talk page because the editor who deleted the material was a liberal editor who formerly edited some time ago.

If you are likely posting to a talk page to someone who is no longer going to be working with you on the article, there is no need to use the talk pages.

Keep the good work. We appreciate all your efforts. You are really doing a lot of wiki work. 23:07, 17 December 2014 (EST)

Thanks for the clarification. Makes sense he was a liberal since he seemed upset at what I was posting about gun control and I felt obligated to justify it to him since he thought I was posting "rubbish" (in his words) about gun control and Second Amendment so much. Please see Talk:Free_state to see what I mean. I have a lot of time to invest in editing/contributing to Conservapedia for at least the next 30 days, so thanks for the encouragement. TheAmericanRedoubt 00:58, 18 December 2014 (EST)

In the next 10 days, I am going to try to get you night editing privileges

In the next 10 days, I am going to try to get you night editing privileges. I hope you get them. Conservative 23:11, 17 December 2014 (EST)

You have night editing privileges now. Enjoy! Conservative 00:51, 18 December 2014 (EST)
Excellent. Thank you for the help and flexible editing times. TheAmericanRedoubt 00:58, 18 December 2014 (EST)
Your welcome. Conservative 04:30, 18 December 2014 (EST)

I am going to endeavor to get you picture uploading rights

I am going to endeavor to get you picture uploading rights. You just need to promise to not upload copyrighted material and just upload pictures that are in the public domain, under a Creative Commons share license, etc. Conservative 14:41, 19 December 2014 (EST)

  • Great, I was going to ask about that. I promise I will only upload PD and CC Share items as appropriate. I appreciate it. Merry Christmas.

TheAmericanRedoubt 23:15, 23 December 2014 (EST)

Due to vandalism and related activities, the owner of the website is granting picture uploading rights slower than he used to. We can look into this again in 2015. Conservative 23:53, 23 December 2014 (EST)
No worries. I hope to continue to prove my dedication to and support of the ideals and goals of Conservapedia and earn picture uploading privileges. Thanks for thinking of it. TheAmericanRedoubt 00:09, 24 December 2014 (EST)
OK.Conservative 00:13, 24 December 2014 (EST)

re: wiki ampersand problem for titles

There is a wiki ampersand problem for titles. This is the best I could do: .40 Smith and Wesson cartridge. Conservative 00:15, 24 December 2014 (EST)

Great, thanks. I was wondering what was going on. Good solution.TheAmericanRedoubt 00:17, 24 December 2014 (EST)
Best I could do. The programmers should have foreseen that people would want to put ampersands in titles. Conservative 00:22, 24 December 2014 (EST)

Cato Institute and other "See also" sections

re: Cato Institute "See also" section and other see also sections.

You are going to need to pare down your "See also" section additions. For example, the Cato Institute does not delve too much into Nazism. The Cato Institute does not care about Fashion industry values. The Cato Institute is libertarian and not conservative. So they don't have a focus on combating San Francisco values. They don't care about small town values. In other words, they are not social conservatives.

Do you see my point? Conservative 01:06, 24 December 2014 (EST)

Most definitely see your point. Those original See Also's were from a month ago when I was newer to Conservapedia and Wiki editing and was "getting carried away" making broad based See Also's. Other editors gave me the advice to keep it specific. Thanks for bringing it up again. As I slowly revisit my former edits to improve them, I will endeavor to remove my extraneous See Also's. The most recent Cato Institute edit I just made was one where I corrected a bad link I had made to the correct article spelling. Thanks again for the reminder and again, appreciate the Wiki mentoring. TheAmericanRedoubt 01:13, 24 December 2014 (EST)
OK. Thanks. I am guessing that the Cato Institute attracts a wealthy crowd and they don't focus very much on preparedness. Most of their fanbase/audience probably has a diversified portfolio (land, stocks, gold, small business ownership, etc.). So you will probably want to pare that part down too. Conservative 01:15, 24 December 2014 (EST)


Would you like to collaborate with other editors on a wiki project to help Conservapedia be a strong resource for a given topic.

The topic could be decided by the editors participating.

If you are interested, please go to: The collaborative project. Conservative 21:54, 25 December 2014 (EST)

Merry Christmas. I'd be happy to join in and help in any way I can. Thanks for the invitation. TheAmericanRedoubt 01:34, 26 December 2014 (EST)

list of military strategies and concepts

The List of military strategies and concepts article should look more like these articles: List of military strategies and concepts and HERE. In other words, the "strategies" should be the focus since it is first in the title of the article. The concepts is secondary and more of an afterthought really.

I hope that helps. Conservative 06:40, 26 December 2014 (EST)

Got it. Thanks for the clarification. I will add more strategies. I was adding the major "strategists" and commanders as well, since many of them were seminal in creating the strategies. Happy Boxing Day TheAmericanRedoubt 06:42, 26 December 2014 (EST)

Guns and Knives

I appreciate all the work you put in on weapons. I've had that on my to do list forever. I will adding pages and pictures soon enough. --Jpatt 19:51, 26 December 2014 (EST)

Thanks for the encouragement. I plan to add short and simple articles for all of the major categories of ammunition including ammunition reloading and for the top 50 firearms not currently having an article such as the bolt-actions (Winchester Model 70, Savage Model 110, Ruger Model 77II, Remington Model 700, Ruger American Rifle, Mosin-Nagant, Jeff Cooper Scout Rifle, Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle), Ruger Ranch Rifle, Ruger Mini-14, Ruger 10/22, the remaining Battle rifles (M1A, FN-FAL/L1A1, HK91, AR-10), the Battle carbines (SKS, AK-74, AK-47, AR-15, Kel-Tek Sub 2000), shotguns (Remington 870, Mossberg 500, Mossberg 930the different Glock models (9mm Glocks: Glock 17-Glock 19-Glock 26, .40 Smith and Wesson Glocks: Glock 22-Glock 23-Glock 27, .45 ACP Glocks (Glock 21-Glock 30), etc), .380 ACP Walther PPK and Glock 42, Misc SIG, SIG 226, Smith and Wesson Military and Police pistols, Springfield Armory XD, Baretta Nama, Ruger LCP, Ruger LC9, Beretta 92; Revolvers (Smith and Wesson Model 29, Smith and Wesson Model 629, Ruger Redhawk and Ruger Super Blackhawk, Colt Python, Smith and Wesson Model 19, Smith and Wesson Model 27, Smith and Wesson Model 66, Ruger SP101, Ruger GP100, Smith and Wesson Model 686, Ruger LCR, Smith and Wesson Model 10), Ruger MK.II, etc.

I will also add the knives, Bayonet, Benchmade, Boker, Bowie knife, Buck Knives, Cold Steel, Columbia River Knife & Tool, Combat knife, Gerber Legendary Blades, Hunting knife, Kershaw Knives, Ka-Bar, Leatherman Multi-tool, Ontario Knife Company, Pocket knife, SOG Specialty Knives, Spyderco, Survival knife, Victorinox Swiss Army Knife, Utility knife, etc.

I wish to add firearms, ammunition and knife pictures, but I am awaiting future picture upload rights once I have been a trusted part of the Conservapedia community for a while longer, I hope. TheAmericanRedoubt 09:24, 27 December 2014 (EST)

Regarding Firearms Articles and Need for Pictures

Over the next 12 months I will add at least 100 to 150 articles on firearms: Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Category_tag_compromise_and_TheAmericanRedoubt User_talk:Jpatt#Regarding_Firearms_Articles_and_Need_for_Pictures User_talk:Karajou#Regarding_Firearms_Articles_and_Need_for_Pictures

I ask for the Admins support please regarding picture uploading rights since I would be adding many pictures for firearms. Thanks in advance for your support. TheAmericanRedoubt 15:43, 14 January 2015 (EST)

Account promoted

Your account has just been promoted to include the ability to revert edits more easily.--Andy Schlafly 21:48, 27 December 2014 (EST)

Happy New Year. Thank you. That was the first blatant "on-the-fly" example of rapid Liberal Vandal Troll I have seen. I can imagine who it is but I am not sure: See Talk:Free_state TheAmericanRedoubt 21:54, 27 December 2014 (EST)

Dialogue with AlanE about his "Trolling" comments

Um. Why is my name being mentioned in vain here? AlanE 22:17, 27 December 2014 (EST)
Well AlanE, if you re-read your presumptuous inflammatory 17 December 2014 "trolling" comments about me on Talk:Free_state which I ignored until now, you can see why I would reference your post. I did say above "I imagine but not sure" -- giving you the benefit of the doubt which you don't give me below.

TheAmericanRedoubt 22:27, 27 December 2014 (EST) I quote our dialogue here:

Please better to stop the "Revert War" (unless it is by an American CP administrator) and instead make comments and suggestions on this talk page for editing the material. "Free state" is a big topic in the American Conservative, Libertarian and Christian circles. The old meaning of Antebellum south is rarely used except among historians. I would be willing to move some of it to an essay, however, the majority of it matches conservative values. Please discuss in a civil way without using words like hideous, offensive, etc like User:SamHB used for the previous revert.

TheAmericanRedoubt 02:57, 17 December 2014 (EST)

From User:AlanE

Excuse the following...but I am cross, and Sam is I know to be a reasonable and intelligent man - and a friend.... Obviously I can't win against someone who probably sits at his computer for hours on end with an assault rifle beside him with one eye out the window just hoping that some one who is black or jewish or liberal will put a foot onto his property so that he can shoot them. What larks!! (Pip old chap)) I live in a free state. It's called Tasmania. About 18 years ago some unhinged bastard called Martin Bryant killed 30-plus people at the Port Arthur historic site an hour or two down the road. One of the victims was a friend of the family. Another was my children's school bus driver. Since then nothing similar has happened. Just the odd minor event because the Federal government of the day brought in gun control. It worked. Go onto the Net and check out Australia's gun crime statistics since 1996 compared to yours. Especially schools and colleges. I can have a queue jumping altercation without worrying about being shot. Can you? That Islamic prick that killed two in the Lindt cafe the other night in Sydney only killed two because all he could get was a shot gun. In America, if he lived in what you call a "free state", he could have got an assault rifle and sprayed the whole room in the twinkling of an eye. I won't go on because I see you are like those I occasionally met in the old days in Outback pubs who felt naked without their firearms and were usually relieved of their ammunition before the publican would serve them a beer. Cheers mate. AlanE 04:06, 17 December 2014 (EST)

Why didn't you reply at the time? This could have been sorted.
I don't "troll" mate. I say what I think. And feel. Everything I wrote in that little rant was from the heart. Martin Bryant's actions in and around Port Arthur that Sunday afternoon affected me and my family mightily. The only good that came out of it was the subsequent enablement of Prime Minister Howard's gun control laws that have proven to be effective. Check the stats.
(And I am still waiting for the maids with their brooms to start sweeping up all those red links. When are you going to stop indulging yourself and start actually working on what a wiki-encyclopedia is supposed to be doing?) AlanE 23:00, 27 December 2014 (EST)
AlanE, The Guardian has a whole section of their website devoted to "knife crime".[1] Conservative 12:50, 30 December 2014 (EST)
Also, there are many notable instances of "rogue states" in terms of oppressive governments. The term "democide" was created to describe rogue governments killing many citizens of their states. An armed citizenry is an insurance policy against democide.Conservative 13:29, 30 December 2014 (EST)

two matters

Two matters:

1. Some of your articles relating to conservatism have been thought provoking to me.

2. Can you please do THIS from now on? I will continue to try to get you picture upload rights and for various reasons, you complying with this request would be helpful in this regard. Conservative 12:44, 30 December 2014 (EST)

1. Great to hear. Which ones?
2. Thanks for reminder on not leaving raw URLs without a description. Will do. Should I make it a priority to go back and look at my tons of edits over the last month and fix those raw URLs? Or is it better that I place higher priority on creating new articles to "clean up" my trail of red links?
3. Thanks for the support on the picture upload rights. I would also like to put time into categorizing the pictures if that is useful. I see that the pictures themselves are not often categorized in the same main (yet specific) category as the article which references the picture. Do you see what I mean?
New content with decent size articles and/or expansion of stub articles is the biggest priority. You could tackle the red links as a part of this process. 12:53, 30 December 2014 (EST)
Roger that. Will do. In January, I am planning to write several hundred one or two paragraph stubs with 1 bibliographic reference with a short pertinent "See Also" / 1 or 2 "External Links" / "References" / "Categories" and perhaps a 1 book "Further Reading" section to "sweep up" my red links and to help with Categorization of each stub. Then I will go back in February and flesh out the my 50 stubs into full fledged articles as appropriate. TheAmericanRedoubt 13:04, 30 December 2014 (EST)
As far as new content goes, it is good for the content to be original content rather than pasting from other web pages. Readers prefer original content in new articles. I endeavor to have 85% or more of a new webpage to be content that is not already on Conservapedia. So don't create big "See also" sections which are pasted from other articles.
I hope this helps. Conservative 13:01, 30 December 2014 (EST)
I would focus on creating more articles like Strategic relocation in size (or larger) and avoid as much as possible as far as the creation of stub articles like this
People prefer websites with web pages with decent size content pages rather than websites with many stub articles. They often feel it is not worth their click to go to a stub article page. Readers want a decent size return on investment in terms of their clicks. Conservative 13:06, 30 December 2014 (EST)
OK. I was creating the, Plume and Penguin Books, etc., etc. stubs to mollify User:AlanE (see his comments: User_talk:TheAmericanRedoubt#Red_Links) who seems somewhat upset by my trail of red links. I would rather focus on deeper content that red link "mollification". :-) TheAmericanRedoubt 13:14, 30 December 2014 (EST)

Some of my Conservapedia articles have received over 1,000,000 views so I know my advice to you in this matter is sound advice. Conservative 13:18, 30 December 2014 (EST)

Appreciate it. How do you tell page views besides looking manually at the bottom of the page? Do you have a more systematic - automatic way of tracking? TheAmericanRedoubt 13:30, 30 December 2014 (EST)
I think AlanE makes a good point about: If you don't create a red link to begin with, you don't have to worry about filling it in later. I personally have found that others do not fill in red links.Conservative 13:21, 30 December 2014 (EST)
I just reviewed the article strategic relocation. A large proportion of the article is the "see also" section. You want to avoid doing this. I would fill in the strategic relocation with more content so a large proportion of the article is not the "see also" section. Conservative 13:23, 30 December 2014 (EST)
Got it. I was trying to make AlanE happy by sweeping up red and fleshing Strategic relocation out later.
I just did a search on the internet to give you better advice. According to the latest research, readers like web articles that are at least between 2,300 to 2,500 words long (or longer) and they want the content to be as much original content as possible (like a unique resource) or not merely cut and paste. So that is a good rule of thumb. Conservative 13:37, 30 December 2014 (EST)
Also, Conservapedia does have many Orphan pages so when you create new articles, make sure some existing article or articles, link to the new article. But the biggest priority is not deorphaning pages, but the creation of new content that is 2,300-2,500 words or more in length in terms of original content. Conservative 13:59, 30 December 2014 (EST)
Awesome. Then I will put most of my energy into developing 2500 word articles in January. TheAmericanRedoubt 14:47, 30 December 2014 (EST)

I put your strategic relocation article into this free web page word counter tool and it said your article is 565 words in length. So I would make your future articles about 4 to 5 times bigger or more in length in order to garner more readership.

Does it make sense that readers prefer more informative articles with unique content over articles which contain content largely copied elsewhere or articles which are stub articles? Conservative 14:12, 30 December 2014 (EST)

One last thing, I did want to emphasize that this is merely a rule of thumb in terms of article length in words. If you create a very useful/authoritative web page that is highly cited by others on the internet about a topic, then it will get web traffic. Conservative 14:43, 30 December 2014 (EST)

New Templates Approval?

Again, at the recommendation of other editors who didn't like my formerly long See Also lists, I have created my first template: Template:Permaculture_topics. Is this OK? If so, can proceed with creating one for Amateur radio, Radio communications technologies, Amateur radio glossary, Radio communication technologies, Complementary medicine, Traditional Chinese medicine, Ayurvedic medicine, Western herbal medicine, Firearms, Rifles, Shotguns, Ammunition, Revolvers, Semi-automatic Pistols and Preparedness?

Should I submit my first one Template:Permaculture_topics to or run it by you first?

Thanks again for your patient mentoring. TheAmericanRedoubt 13:30, 30 December 2014 (EST)

Category:Disambiguation Pages

Is there a Disambig template? I couldn't find one under TheAmericanRedoubt 13:40, 30 December 2014 (EST)

I don't use templates much. Can't be of much help. Conservative 13:56, 30 December 2014 (EST)
What about this one?--JoeyJ 14:05, 30 December 2014 (EST)
Perfect. Thanks JoeyJ. TheAmericanRedoubt 14:11, 30 December 2014 (EST)

re: January articles

Glad to hear that you are creating more depth in articles. If you create strong articles on topics, they will see more traffic.

Also, you can create hub articles on a main topic that are definitive go to articles for internet readers and then have sub articles of 2,500 words or more in length that link to the hub article. The hub article can link to the sub articles too.

For example, Wikipedia's survivalism article is 5,660 words long (it is a hub article) and then it has a number of sub articles related to survivalism as can be seen HERE. Conservative 15:44, 30 December 2014 (EST)

By the way, Conservapedia does not have a survivalism article. Conservative 15:46, 30 December 2014 (EST)

Authorization by NYT Best-Selling Conservative Christian Preparedness Author James Wesley Rawles to use "up to 3 Quotes of 800 Words Each" of his Writings per CP Article

Good news User:Conservative is that I was discussing on e-mail today with James Wesley Rawles to get his permission to use a larger than normal "fair use" amount of his authoritative source materials to build some good quality articles on a variety of Conservative-related topics. He is the most respected and popular New York Times best selling author/consultant in the field of Preparedness (from a Conservative Christian perspective with 7 books authored). 'He gave me the go ahead: "You are certainly welcome to use up to three quotes of 800 words each, in any of your wiki articles." That's 2400 words of great source material with me writing a wrapper around it and integrating other materials plus all the Wiki-link work and formatting following the CP Conservapedia:Manual of Style.' (See below for the actual e-mail authorization.)

Mr. Rawles site's The Survival Blog is amazingly detailed and has received almost '71 million unique visits since July 2005. That's more than 320,000 unique visits per week.' SurvivalBlog it is considered the Internet’s premier source of information on family preparedness and survival topics.

'He is a big fan of Conservapedia and links to it where possible, doing his best to avoid the "LiberalPropagandaPedia".' Here is more info: According to Google there are more than 142,000 results for "".

'These articles will definitely help draw a new audience to Conservapedia.' TheAmericanRedoubt 16:17, 30 December 2014 (EST)

Glad to hear your good news. In terms of creating an online encyclopedia resource related to survivalism and sub topics related to survivalism, I am guessing you will be able to surpass Wikipedia in terms of the quality/quantity of information that is provided. Conservative 16:28, 30 December 2014 (EST)
Most definitely. And as Jack Spirko of the Survival Podcast (with more than 500,000 daily listeners as of December 2014) has said on a recent podcast, his audience is almost entirely conservative. Same with that of James Wesley Rawles and most other preppers. TheAmericanRedoubt 17:00, 30 December 2014 (EST)

Total of 2400 Words worth of Quotes Authorized from James Wesley Rawles Works

In general (for non-Conservapedia editors), James Wesley Rawles , founder/owner of The Survival Blog has suggested 800 words seems to be a reasonable and commonplace except/quoting amount for Fair Use (See Important Fair Use Provisos)

However, for editors of Conservapedia, he has made a special authorization of 3x that quantity:

Forwarded message from "Senior Editor at"
From: "Senior Editor at" <>
To: Jefferson Franklin
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:46:09 -0700

Thank you VERY much for your tireless efforts. As a token of my esteem, and so that you will have current reference copies, I'll be happy to send you autographed copies of all of my books. Just send me your snail mail address.

You are certainly welcome to use up to three quotes of 800 words each, in any of your wiki articles.

OBTW, the is also a decent collection of quotes here: (Thankfully, It hasn't been gutted by liberal Wikipedia editors.)

Thanks Again, and Happy New Year!

~Jim Rawles~
Senior Editor,

Template:James Wesley Rawles authorized quotation

This template should be used for quotations from Mr. Rawles materials to ensure that Conservapedia is legally protected in terms of copyright fair use authorization.

Template:James Wesley Rawles authorized quotation

Here is an example of "Rawles" quote: "As I’ve mentioned before, Wikipedia’s editors have strong leftist and statist biases. This is evidenced by the way that they selectively delete content and gradually push the Point of View (POV) of articles to match their world views. According a SurvivalBlog reader in Switzerland, the following section was deleted from Wikipedia by members of an anti-gun Wikipedia cabal on August 14, 2013. (It had been part of the Mayors Against Illegal Guns article). Never mentioned in the Wikipedia article was the fact that there are charges pending against at least seven other members of their “crime fighting” organization: Marcus Hook Mayor James ‘Jay’ Schiliro - the “furnishing alcohol to a minor” charge was just dropped on a technicality, but he still faces misdemeanor charges of official oppression, recklessly endangering another person, unlawful restraint and false imprisonment, in a bizarre incident where he tried to force a young man to have homosexual relations, at gunpoint.)"[1], [2]

Sample References

  1. 156 word quotation: Fair Use Source: James Wesley, Rawles (“JWR”), Blanket Conservapedia Fair Use Article Citation Authorization "You are certainly welcome to use up to three quotes of 800 words each, in any of your wiki articles." Authorization Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:46:09 -0700. Idaho, American Redoubt: The Survival Blog, 2015, Online., Accessed January 5, 2015 Embarrassing Truths: An Example of Why You Shouldn’t Trust Wikipedia
  2. Bender, William. Marcus Hook Mayor arrested, seeking re-election.

another tip

I have another tip for you.

Web readers don't like walls of text. So try to break up things into small paragraphs.

See what I did to the beginning of this article: Dystopia

I hope this helps. Conservative 06:56, 1 January 2015 (EST)

Working on getting you picture upload rights. Hopefully in 2015. Happy New Year. :)Conservative 06:59, 1 January 2015 (EST)

25 Ayurvedic Herbal Medicine Articles for 1st Week of January 2015

Happy New Year 2015.jpg
Be strong, be of good courage, God Bless America, Long live the Republic. Happy New Year and God speed to everyone who accesses this page!

NOTE to Fellow Editors and Admins: Happy New Year! Today, January 2, 2015 I am working very intensively-extensively on the Medicine and Disease categories, articles on the Complementary medicine called Ayurveda and its top 50 Category:Medicinal Plants and on a collapsible "See Also" navigation template for the diverse topics of the Ayurvedic herbal medicine article I am also working on. The template is be based on the Template:Psychology "look and feel" since it has a lot of topics in a small amount of "real estate". Also, please note that I plan to rapidly submit articles for the "red links". I am a professional subject matter expert in this area since 1996.

Please do not edit any of these medicine related topics until I finish them between now and Friday January 9, 2015. Thank you for your patience and understanding. TheAmericanRedoubt 07:50, 2 January 2015 (EST)

I also wish you a happy 2015. Before you put in a lot of work on the areas described above, would it be worth while to gain consensus for your project? What are your goals and how does your proposed work plan fit into the objectives of Conservapedia? Many thanks in advance for your consideration. Wschact 00:52, 3 January 2015 (EST)
Thanks for your advice Wschact. I will discuss it with User:Conservative who has been "mentoring" me as to what I should and shouldn't post.

I have been following this for guidance as well: Conservapedia:Editorial authority

I also got advice from User:Karajou on Sat, 26 Apr 2014 23:15:17 by e-mail (conservapedia AT "Try your hand at writing complete articles. Conservapedia is not just something containing conservative thought; it is also intended to be a family encyclopedia, so it has to have info on planes, trains, automobiles, animals, sports teams, camera systems, or whatever else comes to mind. So, if you happen to be an expert on - say, rowboats - write an article on rowboats." Karajou

Thus, following Karajou's advice above and oversight from User:Conservative, I am writing "whatever comes to mind" on what I "happen to be an expert on". Thus, I have be developing a lot of detailed articles and their categorizations for my 6 areas of specialization (in order of my depth of subject matter expertise):

  1. Medicine (both complementary medicine and modern medicine (Since 1996, I practice alternative medicine under the direct supervision of a Medical Doctor -- see we see patients together) -- I am part of the Wikiproject:Medicine.
  2. Computer networks (17 years professional experience)
  3. Preparedness-Survivalism
  4. Firearms
  5. Permaculture
  6. Radio communication technologies - Amateur radio

Being a staunch American conservative libertarian "prepper" "gun nut", I obviously write from that perspective. TheAmericanRedoubt 01:10, 3 January 2015 (EST)


Would you like to create the 2,200 - 2,500 word articles that need to be created to finish this project: Conservapedia atheism project? 01:49, 3 January 2015 (EST)

Would love to add to it in a few months. But for now I will concentrate on the above 6 areas of my expertise. Thanks for the invite. TheAmericanRedoubt 01:52, 3 January 2015 (EST)

Ayurvedic medicine

I fail to see how numerous articles on Ayurvedic medicine belongs on a place like Conservapedia. There is little to no clinical evidence to backup any of the treatments or theories, which goes against the conservative principle of only relying on proven facts. PhilH 02:20, 3 January 2015 (EST)

No clinical evidence? Not according to the U.S. National Institute of Health and numerous conservatives (and medical doctors in the America who integrate modern medicine with complementary medicine) who rely on complementary medicine including Herbology, Chinese Medicine, Ayurveda and Acupuncure. There are many conservatives blogs and forums that I follow that have regular articles on complementary medicine. Complementary/alternative medicine is not some liberal or New Age thing. It is even paid for by many insurance companies now and worker's comp in certain U.S. states. I will be submitting clinical evidence from MedLine / PubMed for my articles. TheAmericanRedoubt 02:28, 3 January 2015 (EST)
I know a few friends who are in the medical field who would argue to opposite and say there is limited effects from most alternative medicines. Also I am a bit confused why you keep referencing and talking about Ayurvedic medicine but there isn't an article on Ayurvedic medicine, although I use the term medicine very loosely. PhilH 02:34, 3 January 2015 (EST)

Response to User:SamHB, User:PhilH and User:AugustO Regarding Ayurvedic - Chinese - Western Herbal Medicine on Conservapedia

I am reposting-quoting here User:AugustO's post on User_talk:Aschlafly#Ayurvedic_medicine in order to see why I am making such a detailed point-by-point response.

"You know me as conservative on social or fiscal issues, but my conservatism reaches its zenith on medicine. I am very dedicated to Western medicine, and run away from "new age" or other fringe medicine approaches. Andy, you have to draw a line here on whether Conservapedia has the expertise and resources to cover Ayurvedic medicine properly. I doubt that we do and should stay away from it completely. Please decide and tell User:TheAmericanRedoubt you decision. Many thanks for all that you do for the Conservative movement. Wschact 21:42, 2 January 2015 (EST)

Category:Ayurvedic Medicine is like an advert for alternative medicine: it has 110 subcategories and is itself in 26 categories:
Category:Ayurvedic Medicine|Category:Tibetan Medicine|Category:Complementary Medicine|Category:Medicine|Category:Health Care|Category:Traditional Chinese Medicine|Category:Naturopathic Medicine|Category:Herbalism|Category:Medicinal Plants|Category:Herbs|Category:Spices|Category:Plants used in Traditional Chinese Medicine|Category:Plants used in Ayurvedic Medicine|Category:Plants used in Western Herbal Medicine|Category:Herbalists‎|Category:Health|Category:Survivalism|Category:India|Category:Tibet|Category:Nepal|Category:Mongolia|Category:Burma|Category:Thailand|Category:Sri Lanka|Category:Asia|Category:Southeast Asia|
That could be a kind of record! --AugustO 02:04, 3 January 2015 (EST)
I just want you to know that I do not engage in revert wars with people, and will not engage in revert wars with you. I have reverted a number of your things, just once, and you have of course re-reverted. I will leave it at that. My policy is simply to revert once in order to be on the record as being opposed to whatever it was.
But I really would appreciate it if you didn't put back that stuff saying that my home state is unconstitutional and treasonous. It seriously offends me. OK?
I expect you to get block powers soon. Congratulations in advance. SamHB 17:03, 4 January 2015 (EST)
I've been informed that you were already given block powers, at 00:15, 18 Dec. My hunch has been confirmed. So, congratulations. Please use your powers wisely. SamHB 21:24, 4 January 2015 (EST)

My Response to User:AugustO Regarding Ayurvedic - Chinese - Western Herbal Medicine on Conservapedia

Happy New Year User:Aschlafly, User:AugustO, User:Conservapedia, and User:Karajou

Thank you for your patience with this detailed point-by-point response.

Like you AugustO, I too am a steadfast conservative, but on much more than just social and fiscal issues, as my thousands of conservative point-of-view Conservapedia edits can attest to (Please see my User:TheAmericanRedoubt for more information). Also like you AugustO, I too am very dedicated to Western medicine and work together with a medical doctor with a busy private practice office in a large hospital setting where he and I integrate both modern pharmaceutical based treatment and the use of custom made Ayurvedic-Chinese-Western herbal formulas, nutrition (based on Ayurvedia and Chinese medicine concepts) and acupuncture. He supervises my practice in that setting. Like you AugustO, both he and I also run away from the myriad "new age" medicine approaches. However, Ayurvedic medicine, Chinese medicine - Acupuncture and Western herbal medicine are not "new age". Ayurveda and Chinese medicine - Acupuncture have been in continuous use since at least 250 B.C. according to archaeological evidence and extant classic medical texts in both Chinese characters, Tibetan and Sanskrit (which I can read by the way in Devanagari script).

Conservapedia does indeed have the expertise and resources to cover Ayurvedic medicine and Chinese medicine - acupuncture properly since I am contributing as a dedicated regular editor and have joined the Wikiproject:Medicine to lend my ongoing support editing/categorizing ALL articles in the realm of medicine / anatomy in addition to my other subject matter expertise areas on my User Page / Talk Page.

User:PhilH has said there is no clinical evidence to support complementary medicine. Not according to the U.S. National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine of the National Institutes of Health who funds clinical trials on herbal medicines effectiveness, not according to medical doctors in America who integrate modern medicine with complementary medicine, not according to numerous conservatives who rely on complementary medicine including Western herbalism, Chinese Medicine, Ayurveda and Acupuncture. Just the fact that there is licensing for acupuncture in most of the U.S. states (majority of states require the licensing examination or certification, and several states allow oriental medicine practitioners to be "primary care providers" for legal and insurance purposes; nineteen states specifically include Chinese herbology instead of just acupuncture). For naturopathic medicine 17 states, five Canadian provinces, the District of Columbia, and the US territories of Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands all have laws regulating naturopathic doctors (See map -- even very conservative states such as my home state of Idaho in the American Redoubt, along with Montana and Utah license naturopathy).

All of this attests to complementary medicine's broader acceptance, not to mention the size of the herbal market in the U.S. economy: For herbal medicine "overall sales reached $5.6 billion in 2012" "rising from $4.2 billion in 2000" (

There are many conservatives blogs and forums that I follow that have regular articles on complementary medicine and herb usage. Complementary/alternative medicine is not some liberal, hippie or New Age thing. It is even paid for by many insurance companies now. There is worker's comp coverage for it in certain U.S. states.

Regarding evidence in my articles, I will indeed be submitting footnoted hyperlinked clinical evidence from MedLine / PubMed.

Regarding the Category:Ayurvedic Medicine having lots of sub-categories: There are many sub-categories in the Ayurvedic medicine category since it is a broad science including many diverse health and disease topics and since I am a very detail oriented person as you can see with my contributions for the firearms categorizations (which formerly were all lumped into just the Category of "Guns"). I am using that Category:Ayurvedic Medicine and its temporarily numerous subcategories as a way of temporarily getting a broad view and tracking ability of ALL of the medicine-anatomy categories and articles in order to update them all over the coming months. I promise that will pare that category down in the next 60 days to something smaller once I have updated-edited-expanded ALL of the medicine/anatomy related articles to follow a consistent yet detailed categorization scheme. I always start first with detailed Wiki categories in order to flesh out the scope-breadth-depth and a logical structure for the articles I will submit. I am doing the same detailed categorization for Firearms and other areas.

User:Conservative has been "mentoring" me as to what I should and shouldn't post. I have been following this for guidance as well: Conservapedia:Editorial_authority. I also received advice from User:Karajou on Sat, 26 Apr 2014 23:15:17 by e-mail (conservapedia AT who said, "Try your hand at writing complete articles. Conservapedia is not just something containing conservative thought; it is also intended to be a family encyclopedia, so it has to have info on planes, trains, automobiles, animals, sports teams, camera systems, or whatever else comes to mind. So, if you happen to be an expert on - say, rowboats - write an article on rowboats. Karajou".

Thus, following Karajou's advice above and oversight from User:Conservative, I am writing "whatever comes to mind" on what I "happen to be an expert on". Thus, I have be developing a lot of detailed articles and their categorizations for my 6 areas of specialization (in order of my depth of subject matter expertise): 1. Medicine, 2. Computer networks (17 years professional experience), 3. Preparedness-Survivalism, 4. Firearms, 5. Permaculture gardening, 6. Radio communication technologies - Amateur radio. Being a staunch American conservative libertarian "prepper" "gun nut", I obviously write/edit from that perspective.

For these and many other reasons, I don't see a reason for Conservapedia to stay away from complementary medicine completely as you suggest AugustO. Thus, I will continue to contribute such works to Conservapedia until I am told to stop by any of the CP Administrators such as User:Aschlafly, User:Conservative, or user User:Karajou.

Thank you to you both for your work for our Conservative movement. Godspeed. TheAmericanRedoubt 06:57, 3 January 2015 (EST)

When you do create articles, it is very important to avoid copying and pasting from other websites. When we find that this has happened, we nominate the article for speedy deletion. Instead of just deleting the speedy template, you should rewrite the article from multiple sources. I can see that you have a lot of energy and wish to devote a great deal of time to Conservapedia. However, you should first spend some time reading about Conservapedia's policies (see links at the top of the page) so as to avoid misunderstandings with other users. Perhaps you should focus on perfecting one or two articles before making wide-spread changes. Several users gave a great deal of thought to Conservapedia's category hierarchy, and it takes time for a new user to understand its structure. Again, best wishes for the new year. Wschact 07:54, 3 January 2015 (EST)
Thanks for the advice. Best wishes to you as well for 2015. TheAmericanRedoubt 08:00, 3 January 2015 (EST)


On a wiki, categories are like a big tree. Each category can have subcategories. Think of it like the branches and subbranches of a single tree. When a category like Fruit has subcategories like Apples and Oranges, you cannot make the main category Fruit a subcategory of Apples. You have been making this mistake resulting in loops back on the big category tree destroying what editors have been working hard to perfect.

In theory, if you started at the base of the tree Category:Everything and clicked through every subcategory and read every article, you would eventually read the entire Conservapedia in a somewhat logical order. Please try to respect and understand the work here that has been done in the past before you make radical changes. Thanks, Wschact 09:47, 4 January 2015 (EST)

Thanks again for the advice. Sometimes at first I have been thinking of Categories more as as "Back" and "Forward" navigation bar (but that is what browser "Back" button icon is for), but this isn't a good way of doing it once I thought about it. Although technical, I am not an experienced MediaWiki editor. Recently, when tired I began cutting and pasting from my MS Word document list of categories and doing what you mentioned about looping some categories I have been creating. I will endeavor to be aware of it and keep a more logical container type tree trunk-branch-leaf hierarchy. Again, I appreciate the clarification. TheAmericanRedoubt 10:20, 4 January 2015 (EST)


Please try to listen to User:SamHB, who has a valid concern about your approach. When someone writes an article or book, he automatically receives a copyright in that work. The author can give the copyright away (like the CC license on Wikipedia), but unless you actually see such a permission to copy, you must assume that the author has kept his copyright or sold it to his publisher.

The copyright is very broad to protect the commercial value of the author's work. It protects both the direct copying of the actual words and images and also the creation of "derivative works." If I write, "Time flies like an arrow," my copyright covers derivative works like "Like an arrow, time flies." If a CP editor copy and pastes a paragraph from another website or book onto a CP page, saves that page and then slightly rearranges a few of the sentences, the result is a "derivative work" that creates potential copyright problems for CP. Because all versions of each article are kept forever, it is clear to prove that the CP article was derived from the other website or book.

What we ask our editors to do is: find two or more sources and then sit down and write original text that is not a derivative work of any one source. Please add footnotes to the facts in your article that point back to these sources without copying them. The order of the ideas and the sentences should be your creation and should be more than a derivation of someone else's writing.

I know this is a slow and hard process. That is why it is taking so long to build the encyclopedia here. Many thanks. Wschact 13:00, 4 January 2015 (EST)

The major search engines like Google, Yahoo and Bing prefer original content and not copy and paste of entire web pages. Your content will get significantly more web traffic if it is original content for this reason.
And when you do quote, please use quotation marks and footnotes.
Many website owners and authors use the Copyscape service and similar services to find people who are copying their content. Conservative 13:10, 4 January 2015 (EST)
Roger that. I will keep it in mind. I truly appreciate both of your efforts in detailed clarifications both here and in response to User_talk:Aschlafly#Response_to_User:Wschact_and_User:AugustO_Regarding_Ayurvedic_-_Chinese_-_Western_Herbal_Medicine_on_Conservapedia.
User:Wschact, don't worry, I promise you I will not make the CPP site a big advertisement for Ayurvedic and Chinese medicine. Regarding your Tort law concerns, that is why I created Template:Medical_Notice. Regarding the number of proposed articles on Ayurvedic herbs, it is because many of them are also commonly used in Western herbology so are quite familiar to Westerners such as turmeric, ginger, cardamom, garlic, cloves, cinnamon, etc.
Speaking of the Mayo Clinic that you mentioned, that renowned and respected clinic has found in their research, according to my M.D. colleague I work with, that taking a particular daily 3x dosage of turmeric is as effective as the leading anti-arthritic pharmaceutical in treating certain types of arthritis, yet without any side effects. TheAmericanRedoubt 13:26, 4 January 2015 (EST)

quick note about a recent discussion

In terms of a fitness routine, I have been cross-training. While there are certainly benefits to cross-training, it can sometimes increase muscle soreness.

Due to the discussion on Aschalfly's page, I decided to investigate a matter more deeply and found this article: Local application of turmeric on delayed onset muscle soreness, source: British Journal of Sports Medicine

I tried it last night and it worked fast. Conservative 16:02, 4 January 2015 (EST)
Do you not mean one of the members of the collective known as User:Conservative rather than using the personal pronoun I? Davidspencer 16:06, 4 January 2015 (EST)

re: Alexa data

Out of curiosity, I looked at Alexa in terms of the percentage of traffic from different countries. Right now, according to Alexa, Conservapedia gets about 10% of their web traffic from India. I think this is an all time high.

Do you know what could be causing this? :) Conservative 16:27, 4 January 2015 (EST)

I had never looked that before and found it interesting. Also interesting was the list of sites "most related" to
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I assume that this is the results of an analysis of links and traffic back and forth. Thanks, Wschact 21:52, 4 January 2015 (EST)

quick note about my availability

I think I will be very busy for an extended time with off wiki activities. So don't take offense if you don't hear from me. Best wishes in your future editing. Conservative 22:59, 4 January 2015 (EST)

Thanks for letting me know. I completed and tested an MLA format fair use (Talk:Fair_use#Authorization_by_NYT_Best-Selling_Conservative_Christian_Preparedness_Author_James_Wesley_Rawles_to_use_.22up_to_3_Quotes_of_800_Words_Each.22_of_his_Writings_per_CP_Article) quotation template Template:James_Wesley_Rawles_authorized_quotation for using his material ([[James_Wesley_Rawles#Strong_Advocate_of_Conservapedia_over_Wikipedia

]]) for my upcoming fleshing out of a lot of the articles in Category:Survivalism and adding a lot of new articles especially in the Category:Tools arena and completing the Essay:Buy Made in America with links to the companies that still patriotically manufacture in the USA -- Category:Made in USA.

All of Mr. Rawles quotations I use to flesh out an article will of course follow the guidelines here Conservapedia:Guidelines#Permitted: "You are copying something that someone else wrote, with their explicit permission. This must also be noted on the article or talk page, and the original author should also note, for example on his user page on the original site, that he has provided such permission."
It is truly a labor of love editing Conservapedia!
Best wishes in your off wiki time. TheAmericanRedoubt 09:06, 5 January 2015 (EST)

User:Conservative OK on the Addition of Preparedness/Survivalism and Gun Articles on CP

Thanks for creating a lot of new content. It is appreciated.
I think the preparedness/survivalism and gun articles could attract new conservative readers since those topics tend to be topics that are of more interest to conservatives rather than to liberals. With the gun articles, I think there is more competition on the internet for readers and in terms of existing content so those articles will especially need to be of high quality in order to attract readers.
Lastly, I am pushing myself on multiple fronts right now in terms of off wiki activity so my schedule is going to be chock-full for the forseeable future. In addition, another editor using the User: Conservative account is in a very demanding field plus he just co-launched a new business so he will be very busy off wiki also. Best wishes on your editing at Conservapedia. Conservative 16:15, 7 January 2015 (EST)
Thank you User:Conservative for your needed words of encouragement . That's all I needed to hear amidst the din of the several "squeaky wheel" noisy liberal and/or RINO critics here.
Now that I have your "go ahead", I will now be submitting numerous initially short glossary-dictionary entry type articles in these domains of interest to conservatives. I now write mostly offline and then will rapidly upload many articles at a time to CP. These glossary-definition type articles will initially be copyright authorized James Wesley Rawles quotation-based summary articles with some additional words of my own to fill red link place holders. Then, I will over the coming months expand these shorter glossary-dictionary type articles with more varied sources/references and more of my own summary/synthesis/integrative writing.
Be strong. Be of good courage. God bless America. Long live the Republic!
TheAmericanRedoubt 02:45, 8 January 2015 (EST)

The Liberals smear campaign Won -- I now retire from editing Conservapedia

I must say that the liberal smear campaign and relentless edits/deletions from 5 very loud CP liberal trolls / RINOs (besides the vociferous User:Wschact, you know who you are and will be happy to know you have won) has been no fun. I am sad to say, it is much worse edit wars and liberal reverts than anything I contributed over the years to Wikipedia. Sorry User:Aschlafly, User:Conservative, User:Karajou and User:Jpatt, but I have lost the enthusiasm to continue contributing to CP in the face of this much liberal opposition. Thank you 4 for what you do for the conservative movement. I strongly suspect that the frequent sock puppet hacker-vandalist accounts were User:Wschact or one his friends using a VPN since all the vandals edits were directed to things he was revert warring with me over. God bless. TheAmericanRedoubt 02:26, 9 January 2015 (EST)

Dear Karajou, feel free to contact me on my e-mail if you wish. You were the one who encouraged me to contribute articles:

"I also received advice from User:Karajou on Sat, 26 Apr 2014 23:15:17 by e-mail (conservapedia AT who said, "Try your hand at writing complete articles. Conservapedia is not just something containing conservative thought; it is also intended to be a family encyclopedia, so it has to have info on planes, trains, automobiles, animals, sports teams, camera systems, or whatever else comes to mind. So, if you happen to be an expert on - say, rowboats - write an article on rowboats. Karajou". Thus, following Karajou's advice above and oversight from User:Conservative, I am writing "whatever comes to mind" on what I "happen to be an expert on". Thus, I have be developing a lot of detailed articles and their categorizations for my 6 areas of specialization (in order of my depth of subject matter expertise): 1. Medicine, 2. Computer networks (17 years professional experience), 3. Preparedness-Survivalism, 4. Firearms, 5. Permaculture gardening, 6. Radio communication technologies - Amateur radio. Being a staunch American conservative libertarian "prepper" "gun nut", I obviously write/edit from that perspective."

Sadly, I no longer have the enthusiasm to contribute in the face of such 'strong' opposition from 5 very vociferous liberal/RINO editors. It's more of an uphill battle than it was on Wikipedia, I am very disappointed to say. Godspeed in all you do.

Response from Karajou and User:Conservative to Not Give Up

You are not giving up. If anything, the liberal smear campaign won't work, except as to advertise just who and what liberals really are, which is a bunch of hate-filled lying clowns. So, I really mean it when I tell such an individual that every time he opens his fat, lying mouth, he proves our point. In fact, sometimes I even thank them when they do that. But rest assured, they will be held accountable for their words and deeds, both now and in the hereafter. Now get rid of that retired message and have fun editing! Karajou 04:56, 9 January 2015 (EST)
Karajou, you shouldn't take these accusations on face value - I don't know whether User:TheAmericanRedoubt includes me in the fivefold, nevertheless I want to a few points:
--AugustO 06:26, 9 January 2015 (EST)
He is not a parodist. I have generally been the first person to spot parodists. Shared with my fellow sysops my criteria for spotting them.
Second, "what if"/hypothetical scenarios are often a waste of time. Most of people's fears never happen.
Third, he created a lot of content. It doesn't make sense to make things overly difficult for new editors. Conservative 06:37, 9 January 2015 (EST)
I tried to mentor him and to explain about categories and copy and paste. I believe that User:Conservative, User:Karajou and I all delivered the same advice about trying to create full articles. It is odd that every time he posted a new stub article, the edit summary said "rough draft". I don't know whether User:Conservative's guideline of 2500 is the best number for the target length of an article, but if it is the target, one should not meet that target with a one sentence quote from another website followed by a massive "See also" section. The lesson to be learned here is that we need a better program for mentoring new editors. Thanks, Wschact 11:46, 9 January 2015 (EST)

From :User:Conservative Re: your message to Karajou

I don't think you should quit editing. Also, if SamHB acts in a rude way again, he can be blocked for awhile as a warning. If he persists, he can be blocked permanently. Conservative 05:41, 9 January 2015 (EST)

Generous gun rights in countries with significant crime rates, can save reduce crime and save lives.[2][3]

User:Conservative says "Conservapedia is not going pro-gun control"

Conservapedia is not going pro-gun control. Conservative 06:04, 9 January 2015 (EST)

User:Wschact's Stubborn Hounding: 72% of his edits over a period of 24 days are about my work out of 179 edits, 129 concern my edits

Between December 16 and January 8, out of 179 edits made by Wschact, 129 concern either Wschact rapidly changing my edits soon after I complete them / reverting them or complaining to the Community/Admins about my contributions. That is to say, 72% of his edits over a period of 24 days are about my work. That is a good example of being tenaciously hounded by strong opposition. Source:

I didn't really want to put this part about Wschact on CP Talk pages or Community Portal since I don't want to further alienate him from me or make him more dogged in his pursuit of editing/patrolling/trolling my contributions. But his recent remarks to my "Retirement" posting, made me decide to mention these 72% statistics and to come out of "retirement". TheAmericanRedoubt 19:42, 9 January 2015 (EST)

Inspired by Karajou and User:Conservative to Not Retire due to User:Wschact' Dogged Hounding

Dear Admins Karajou and Conservative

My biggest concern, that finally temporarily "took the wind out of my sails" and prompted me to temporarily retire as a contributor, is Wschact, who makes my Conservapedia contributions the subject of 72% of his edits over a 24 day period, as I will show below.

My biggest concern isn't SamHB who explained himself well here:, saying that "I promised that I would revert your things only once, and I mean it."

Nor is my concern AlanE's presumptuously slanderous race baiting comment here: I first said to AlanE: "Please better to stop the "Revert War" (unless it is by an American CP administrator) and instead make comments and suggestions on this talk page for editing the material. "Free state" is a big topic in the American Conservative, Libertarian and Christian circles. The old meaning of Antebellum south is rarely used except among historians. I would be willing to move some of it to an essay, however, the majority of it matches conservative values. Please discuss in a civil way without using words like hideous, offensive, etc like User:SamHB used for the previous revert." TheAmericanRedoubt 02:57, 17 December 2014 (EST)

Alan rudely Ad hominem responded to me: "Excuse the following...but I am cross, and Sam is I know to be a reasonable and intelligent man - and a friend.... Obviously I can't win against someone who probably sits at his computer for hours on end with an assault rifle beside him with one eye out the window just hoping that some one who is black or jewish or liberal will put a foot onto his property so that he can shoot them. What larks!! (Pip old chap)). I won't go on because I see you are like those I occasionally met in the old days in Outback pubs who felt naked without their firearms and were usually relieved of their ammunition before the publican would serve them a beer. Cheers mate." AlanE 04:06, 17 December 2014 (EST)" Source: I decided to simply ignore AlanE since that was the last I heard of him.

What finally temporarily took the remaining "wind out of my sails" is Wschact’s almost month-long dogged efforts: I assert that between December 16 and January 8, out of 179 edits made by Wschact, 129 concern either Wschact rapidly changing my edits soon after I complete them / reverting them or complaining to the Community/Admins about my contributions. That is to say, 72% of his edits over a period of 24 days are about my work. That is a good example of being tenaciously hounded by strong opposition. Source:

Here Wschact doesn't even know the difference between 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge/ammunition and a "7.62x51mm NATO rifle" and hence wrongly insisting that the Admins move 7.62x51mm NATO to "7.62x51mm NATO rifle". And the so-called copyright issues he brings are been handled by MLA citations/references/bibliography and fair use.

I made more than 1000+ small edits on CP for several months before contributing much of anything original to be sure that I got a feel for the actual format, content, categories, see also's, stubs or lack of stubs, politics, guidelines, etc. I also wanted to make sure that my edits proved to the CP admins that I am sincere and trustworthy, not a troll or parodist. Then in late November when my sabbatical began I begin much more extensive CP contributions. That was when on December 16 I can on the Wschact radar scope.

I was asked by one JoeyJ ( to deorphan pages which I then began to do. But the edits I make to de-ophan them by adding them appropriately to a See Also or a wiki link within the article were getting frequently deleted by Wschact. This happened a lot. He would keep saying I am violating the CP policy.

Over the next few months while I am taking a sabbatical from my work, I have a lot of time/energy/knowledge to contribute to CP generating new content. Alas, at the moment I am feeling too harassed by their constant rapid nit-picking and having to 10/90 Talk Page explain my every step versus doing 90/10 actual article work. I've never experienced this before in an online Wiki or forum community, I am sad to say. Even on Wikipedia, I would get at least a few days to a week to perfect a short article or a contribution to one before the liberal vultures would swoop in to eat it up (if they did even). Because CP is a much smaller community of editors, they give me no time to improve upon my work before they come in and revert/delete. It's truly demoralizing/intimidating for a new editor. I don't know what else to say. I feel CP is an amazing voice for our American conservative movement, but I didn't know it would have so many fast-moving critics/deleters/reverters against anything I contribute in the realm of firearms or survivalism/preparedness articles. Yet they were against much on complementary medicine and amateur radio as well.

It's funny, the ONLY contributions of mine that the liberal/RINO editors didn't touch were the Buddhist articles. I think that is because most liberals like Buddhism. Although Catholic, I formally studied comparative religions and CP's Buddhist and Hindu articles are very slim at the moment, so I have much to add there as well. But again, at the moment, I am becoming "gun shy" with their liberal/RINO sights all aimed at me now, especially on

Persistence is a virtue, as Calvin Coolidge said:

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence.
Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb.
Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent.
The slogan Press On! has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."

Thank you for listening. Any advice or encouragement would be appreciated.

TheAmericanRedoubt 19:42, 9 January 2015 (EST)

Dear Andy: If TAR is saying that he is making a disproportionate amount (72%) of the problem edits that required correction, I am willing to accept his number, although I have no memory of first looking to see who was the originator of each problem. The problem is that we have someone who does not understand CP style and policy seeking to add a massive amount of material that has a lot of copy and paste problems, including copy and pasting into many articles from a common set of "See also" references instead of writing new ones for each article.
Karajou, Conservative and I have each suggested that TAR slow down and try to write complete articles instead of rushing through copy and pasted new stubs. If TAR wants to "de-orphan" an article, perhaps he should add a sentence to a related article instead of plunk a link into the "see also" section of an unrelated article. I would also suggest watching how TAR pipes his links. A pipe should direct the reader to the article represented by the linked phrase, not to something different.
Finally, I would suggest that Conservapedia would be better served by cooperation that combines our "talents", our "genius" and our "educational" backgrounds rather than having one person show blind "persistence" in the face of cautionary comments of others. So, I don't think that TAR's Calvin Coolidge quote captures the spirit of Conservapedia. Please review the links here and decide for yourself. Many thanks, Wschact 20:34, 9 January 2015 (EST)
I think the main reason why Wschact is bent out of shape about TheAmericanRedoubt is his material on traditional/alternative medicine. I pointed out that Japan is unique as a country because highly advanced modern Western medicine coexists with traditional Asian medicine.[4] The Japanese have a life expectancy that is 5 years greater than American's life expectancy. It seems reasonable to believe that thousands of years of trial and error has caused there to be some efficacy in traditional/folk medicine. I have found that turmeric/ginger works great to prevent/mitigate post workout soreness for example. It's a cheap and safe method too. I realize that traditional/folk medicine has its problems and one has to exercise discretion, but so does Western medicine.
At the same time, I do think it is better to create reasonable length articles one at a time then create a lot of stub articles. Readers don't really care for stub articles. That is why the major search engines don't rank stub articles highly in their search results. Conservative 00:32, 10 January 2015 (EST)
Over the coming months, I will flesh out into larger articles most of the "stub" or shorter articles I initially contribute. Thanks for the comments, advice and support. TheAmericanRedoubt 03:23, 10 January 2015 (EST)
Your sheer volume of edits has the liberals worried. Since they can't take CP down, they need to force out productive members. Improving CP is against their interests. Every edit is a poke in their eye. Stay the course and keep on trucking. Good work!--Jpatt 22:52, 9 January 2015 (EST)
Roger that User:Jpatt! The encouraging words are sincerely appreciated. My sails now have full wind in them again and I added a backup generator just in case so I can stay the course amidst the gusty liberal winds that try to sink the ship. I feel supported now in adding lots of firearms articles. TheAmericanRedoubt 23:25, 9 January 2015 (EST)
Lock and load! And keep your powder dry and don't let the liberals rain on it. :) If SamHB behaves rudely, tell Karajou and he will straighten him out. Conservative 00:10, 10 January 2015 (EST)
This thread seems to be in two places; here, and in the Community Portal.
JPatt: You have always been fair-minded in your dealings with me, but I think you are falling into a rhetorical trap in your comments above about liberals:
Your sheer volume of edits has the liberals worried. Since they can't take CP down, they need to force out productive members. Improving CP is against their interests. Every edit is a poke in their eye.
The rhetorical trap is conflating anyone who disagrees with oneself as a "liberal". It is a very common fallacy here at CP. What you said about liberals may well be true, but the context suggests that you are applying it to the 5 people that TAR is complaining about. (I assume the 5 are myself, Wschact, AugustO, PhilH, and AlanE.) I don't think the things you said above about liberals apply to all of us. We are not forcing out productive members; in fact, I have just been forced out, complete with extremely explicit block threats (above and below) by Cons. Improving CP is not, and has never been, against my interests.
I believe that abhorrence of treason is a very conservative value. I abhor treason, and I take accusations that my home state is treasonous and unconstitutional very seriously. Yet this accusation has been put back in, and there is nothing I can do about it except leave. My rude langauge was because of that abhorrence.
I believe that CP's presentation on relativity is in good condition, so no further editing on my part will be necessary. I will leave now. SamHB 13:41, 10 January 2015 (EST)

N.B. the above comments were pasted in by TAR from another discussion, so one should not assume that they were made after reading my remarks above left on 20:34, 9 January 2015 (EST). If TAR keeps on pasting his remarks at multiple locations, it is very difficult to know where the discussion is being held or where to post the response. CP needs more guidance on how to avoid falsely reconstructing a dialog after-the-fact. Yours for truth and fairness, Wschact 12:11, 10 January 2015 (EST)

Made Essay:Free States Movement and Redirect Unfree states into an article

I made an essay of yours into an article. It is now Free States Movement. Also, created this article Unfree states.

We don't need to pussyfoot when it comes to covering liberalism at a conservative wiki. Ever see this movie? :) Never back down! :)

If SamHB acts rude/unreasonably, ask Karajou to block him. Conservative 01:52, 10 January 2015 (EST)

Awesome. Will do. Walking Tall is a great conservative movie and that remake was a good version. Maybe it should be added to the list of conservative movies essay? TheAmericanRedoubt 03:20, 10 January 2015 (EST)
With utmost respect, I understood the term to mean something different. Can we come up with a way for both ideas to exist without confusion on Conservapedia. I believe the libertarians organizing a migration to New Hampshire deserve our attention and respect as well. Thank, Wschact 12:01, 10 January 2015 (EST)


Dear TAR, I know that you are trying very hard to be efficient, but you are shooting yourself in the foot. Please read up on the technical details of templates and transclusion vs. substitition. Also, please stop placing the template on the talk page by accident. We are trying to help you, but you need to be more thoughtful of your editing and its unintended consequences. Feel free to ask for help. Thanks, Wschact 12:22, 10 January 2015 (EST)


Dear Admins, please see Template_talk:Second_Amendment_groups for my only response from now on to User:Wschact. TheAmericanRedoubt 12:29, 10 January 2015 (EST)

I will respect your wishes and post my response on the template talk page. Many thanks! Wschact 12:52, 10 January 2015 (EST)

Kind Advice from Conservative and Karajou and my Response - No more Survivalism-Guns-AltMed-Permaculture-HamRadio, just Indian Philosophy articles from me now

If Wschact acts unreasonably in order to protect liberal sacred cows or acts in a petty way due to you adding conservative content that he does not like, please contact User: Karajou and/or User: JPatt. On the other hand, please be judicious about this matter. If Wschact offers useful input, please take it.

I did solve the SamHB issue for you though. Should SamHB return, I suspect he will be far less truculent due to it being pointed out that masses of people are leaving his unfree state of Massachusetts each year. Obviously, people leave a sinking unfree ship of state and not a successful freedom loving flagship state. Conservative 03:20, 11 January 2015 (EST)

By the way, don't ever get frustrated and quit. Stand your ground and if necessary call in the cavalry of Karajou and Jpatt. :) Conservative 03:26, 11 January 2015 (EST)
I reopened my user talk page mailbox. However, please please contact Karajou/Jpatt first as they may be more active than me at CP in the foreseeable future. I did make some promises to people to assist them with off wiki projects so Karajou/JPatt may act more quickly for you. Conservative 03:36, 11 January 2015 (EST)
Sorry fellow Conservatives, but Wschact (and all the really vociferous "libs"/RINOS here) finally won with their bullying. Washact and the five others, but especially Washact, have tired me out, calling me a parodist, a hijacker, etc, etc. The 'only' thing Wshact didn't immediately edit are my Buddhist and Indian philosophy article contributions Category:Indian Philosophy and Category:Buddhism. It's simply too much of an uphill battle here with these loud-mouthed five, especially wshact. It's just too demoralizing even for an energetic contributor like me. As long as he is hounding me on 'every' edit and template, it's just not worth it to me.
I can contribute my time and high energy elsewhere for the Conservative cause, where there is a slightly longer "pérennité" (as the French say) / durability to my contributions. I am sad to say my similar veined edits actually stayed visible on Wikipedia much longer before the vultures swooped in than they did here. At least over at Wikipedia I can contribute complementary medicine/herbology material without having it immediately deleted/reverted. Numerous items I contributed at Wikipedia lasted sometimes for weeks at a time, not just a few minutes or hours before deletion/reverting. And they usually put up a top of the page Admin template flag on it first for a couple days to weeks rather than just remove/revert it instantly like weshact is doing.
I think I will return back to the Conservative/Preparedness Forums from which I came. From now on you will only see on CP the occasional Buddhist, Hindu, Indian philosophy article I may perhaps continue to contribute since Comparative Religions/Philosophy was one of my past formal study areas in college.
I sent you Karajou and User:Conservative a private e-mail about it.
Be strong. Be of good courage. God bless America. Long live the Republic.

TheAmericanRedoubt 05:50, 11 January 2015 (EST)

This template Template:Second Amendment topics and it's Backup User:TheAmericanRedoubt/Second Amendment topics is my last contribution for the Second Amendment-RKBA-Firearms-Survivalism-Prepping. It says it all. TheAmericanRedoubt 06:21, 11 January 2015 (EST)

Blanked Pages

Hi I have seen some of your articles, that you have blanked. For example 7.62×51mm NATO, Essay:Free States movement or Essay: List of celebrities who support the Second Amendment. Should I delete them?--JoeyJ 06:03, 11 January 2015 (EST)

Yes, please. Those three were wrong file names. I put the content under a different page name. Thank you. TheAmericanRedoubt 06:05, 11 January 2015 (EST)


I continue to encourage you to make contributions to Conservapedia in whatever substantive areas you think best. However, I would suggest that you focus on one or two articles at a time instead of trying to create everything under a sense of urgency and time pressure. You have said that you have a multi-month sabatical, so if you set a goal of producing one good article per day, that would be 60 article that you could view with pride and personal satisfaction. It is obvious from watching you struggle with these templates that you are not an experienced template writer, so you might want to spend your time on creating articles instead of learning templates.

The interesting thing about CP is that the editors are mostly conservative Christians who come to this site motivated by a desire to share knowledge. I see kindness and thoughtfulness in their words and deeds. I am sure that you came here out of a spirit of sharing as well. However, I think that we have drifted apart because the software and rules here are difficult to master and can lead to frustration. When editors (including me) tried to lend a hand when you got sidetracked, you took it as an attack from some "liberal/RINO" instead of trying to understand what went wrong.

We need good, thoughtful articles. I previously pointed out the Wikipedia article on the Ithaca Gun Company as an example. It is an article about a company that makes rifles in America, and it covers what most people would want to know about the company and its products. That is what we need, and I hope you try writing those types of articles. I am not trying in any way to force you into limiting yourself to eastern religions. You can write about guns, or the Constitution or preparedness. If you use a word that should have its own article but does not at this time, don't feel pressured into adding a one sentence article. Instead, focus on finishing the article that you have started. You are obviously well educated about a wide variety of topics, so it should be easy for you to pick something to write about.

Do not worry that other people here may not agree with all of your personal views. We have creationists, fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, libertarians and a bunch of other viewpoints here. If other people want to add to your articles, please welcome them. Thanks, Wschact 09:21, 11 January 2015 (EST)

Message posted to Wschact's talk page

TheAmericanRedoubt (TAR) creates a lot of content and his work is appreciated by the Admin community and has their full support. Wschact your content is appreciated also.

Second, I contacted TAR about various matters such as: not creating additional ayurvedic medicine articles at this time, avoiding creating large "see also" sections, avoiding creating a lot of red links (AlanE was irked by this), and not creating a lot of stub articles. TAR agreed to do all these things.

Third, Karajou, JPatt and I feel you are hounding TAR. This must immediately stop. Please cease and desist doing this. It is also suspected that you may have others using your account to help you hound TAR. If true, this is unacceptable.

Fourth, considering that TAR has agreed to not create additional ayurvedic medicine articles which seems to have been the spark to start this wiki war, you need to meet him half way and stop hounding him. If you don't Karajou, JPatt and I will consult with the owner of CP and make sure that you do stop hounding him.

Again, your content is appreciated and so is your input. Nonetheless, your behavior towards TAR must stop. It is unacceptable and will not be tolerated. Conservative 09:36, 11 January 2015 (EST)

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Send a gun to a British home.jpg

Excellent. Thank you. TheAmericanRedoubt 10:20, 13 January 2015 (EST)

Category:Nuclear Target Structures

It seems absurd to add France, Russia, Attack on Pearl Harbor, ... to this category! --AugustO 15:33, 15 January 2015 (EST)

In due time (over the next days), I shall explain and will also add a sub-heading and explanation in each of the articles that are in this category. I am first adding them to the category Category:Nuclear Target Structures and to the article Nuclear target structures. Don't forget who has nukes in the world. They are certainly targets. And Pearl Harbor is still an active target and an active base. TheAmericanRedoubt 15:35, 15 January 2015 (EST)
Sorry, that won't do. France is not a Nuclear Target Structure. There are nuclear target structures in France, but by this line of reasoning, we could add the categories Universities, Cats, Trees, or Churches to this article!
Finding Attack on Pearl Harbor in the list of Category:Nuclear Target Structures doesn't make any sense at all - it is an event in the past which predates nukes! --AugustO 15:42, 15 January 2015 (EST)

How about giving us a short version of your reasoning now, before you go on with edits which seem to be absurd to most of the other editors? Thanks! --AugustO 15:49, 15 January 2015 (EST)

I am in the middle of writing this article and the linking sub-section in each of the articles I place in this category. Why don't you go write some actual content of your own instead of being Mr. Delete. :-) How about you back off and give me a chance rather than reverting my edits. Ninth life? TheAmericanRedoubt 15:53, 15 January 2015 (EST)

From User:Conservative: "My request to other editors, please do not be persnickety with TheAmericanRedoubt about the category tags. He promised to do better on the category tags and now sees how he has been overdoing it. Conservative 13:38, 14 January 2015 (EST)" TheAmericanRedoubt 15:59, 15 January 2015 (EST)

How about explaining controversial actions first? Look, you still seem to have difficulties to understand the concept of categories, so before blundering on, you should take some time to make your edits clear! --AugustO 15:57, 15 January 2015 (EST)
I repeat. Back off. TheAmericanRedoubt 15:59, 15 January 2015 (EST)

In 19 Months AugustO submits 2 New 1 Paragraph Articles, 13 New Talk Pages; in 2 weeks 83 Related to TheAmericanRedoubt

Since the 22nd of May 2013 (Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=AugustO) Mr. O has written 2 new 1 paragraph long articles: Sleswick-Holsatia and Ceslas Spicq. Also 1 new redirect page "article" (Amu). He has created 13 new Talk Page articles. 83 of his edits in only 2 weeks have been of my work or related to my work. Perhaps he might want to please consider paying more attention to this Conservapedia:Guidelines#90.2F10_Rule instead of to every detail of my numerous new article and essay contributions. TheAmericanRedoubt 18:08, 15 January 2015 (EST)

Yes, I'm annoyed, too, by the effort it takes to get you to make the slightest corrections, like: the category at Attack on Pearl Harbor. You are still producing a plethora of red links - though you have promised otherwise - and I won't ignore this. --AugustO 18:19, 15 January 2015 (EST)
I just now gave temporary 1 day block to Mr. O since he is ignoring numerous advice from Admin User:Conservative (see User_talk:AugustO#On_cats_and_lives) and continues to violate the 90/10 rule. TheAmericanRedoubt 18:26, 15 January 2015 (EST)
Please make yourself familiar with the 90/10 rule, and how it is used here at Conservapedia. Thanks. --AugustO 18:35, 15 January 2015 (EST)

Response to Mr. "Jump the Gun"

The gentleman "doth protest too much, methinks". :-) Patience is a virtue you seem to be still attempting to master. I have added to each of the appropriate articles, the required text as below. Good day Mr. Ninth Life. TheAmericanRedoubt 17:50, 15 January 2015 (EST)

Major Military Base: A Likely Nuclear Target Structure

Pearl Harbor has a major United States Armed Forces military base with likely nuclear weapon capabilities making it one of the primary targets among the world's major nuclear target structures in a possible nuclear war[1]. It being a "first strike" nuclear war target is mostly due to missile silos, bomber bases, submarine bases, and command and control (C2) centers. The enemy must neutralize these assets immediately to prevent or minimize American nuclear or other military retaliation.

India the Nuclear-Weapon State: A Likely Nuclear Target Structure

India is considered a "nuclear-weapon state" (NWS) since it has nuclear weapon capabilities making it one of the primary targets among the world's major nuclear target structures in a possible nuclear war[2].

References for Mr. "Jump the Gun"

  1. Nuclear Country Profile, Washington, DC: Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI), Last updated: May, 2014. Accessed January 15, 2015
  2. Nuclear Country Profile, Washington, DC: Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI), Last updated: May, 2014. Accessed January 15, 2015

TheAmericanRedoubt 17:50, 15 January 2015 (EST)

I left this message on AugustO's talk page in relation to his latest fight with TheAmericanRedoubt

I receive a report that you are blocking the good faith efforts of someone who wants to create content.

I think you are on your way to having your blocking rights removed. If that happens, a long block against you could last quite a long time. Due to my reduced activity level, I might not even notice if you are blocked for some time even if I was going to undo the block.

I have some projects I am tackling plus I expect to be tacking two more soon so I need to catch up on things. I had an accident happen to me recently and was temporarily injured which set me behind on things. But I recovered recently so I am moving forward. So I told the editor that I cannot referee this one and to refer the matter to Karajou. Try not to pick any unnecessary fights with other editors. That is my advice. Conservative 19:15, 15 January 2015 (EST)

Obama says the newspaper exercised bad judgment and brought this upon themselves

Hello TAR - Can you please supply a citation for your claim 'Obama says the newspaper exercised bad judgment and brought this upon themselves.' [[5]]. Cheers EJamesW 16:48, 16 January 2015 (EST)

Obama's press secretary Josh Earnest said it was "inaccurate" to blame Charlie Hebdo attacks on radical Islam. With such a stunning denial, it's natural to think Obama must blame those whom the terrorists targeted instead. VargasMilan 17:06, 16 January 2015 (EST)
Hello VargasMilan, it seems you've taken on the role of 'TheAmericanRedoubt's spin man. Here's the actual press conference [6]. Where does it say 'Obama says the newspaper exercised bad judgment and brought this upon themselves.'? EJamesW 17:20, 16 January 2015 (EST)
I never said it did. I was just describing what TheAmericanRedoubt was probably thinking in response to the White Houses' astonishing (and much-reported) claim that it was "inaccurate" to blame the Charlie Hebdo attacks on radical Islam. VargasMilan 18:00, 16 January 2015 (EST)
You are indeed TAR's spin man - you just wrote ' I was just describing what TheAmericanRedoubt was probably thinking'. As Charlie Brown would say 'Good Grief!' EJamesW 18:27, 16 January 2015 (EST)
  • Obama has repeatedly claimed that ISIS, al Qaeda, et. al. are "not Islamic."[7] This is, of course, a very silly claim. I mean, who elected Obama caliph? But it's not same as blaming the magazine for the attack. The White House also condemned Charlie Hedbo for running pornographic cartoons of Mohammed in 2012. [8]

The arrogant and highly atheistic/secular French and French muslim situation is a volatile mix. The French atheist/muslim situation will probably get worse before it better. There seems to be a feedback loop of discrimination/hatred/violence/non-assimilation going on.[9]

The Ireland/Italian muslim situation seems a lot less volatile. I think the Irish/Italians (who tend to be more religious) are nicer and less arrogant then the atheistic/secularists French.[10] And Ireland's Muslims are more highly educated.[11]

In addition, judging from his radio mini-debates with theists, the Irish atheist Michael Nugent seems nicer and less abrasive than many prominent atheists/agnostics (see: Atheism and arrogance). Research shows that atheists are more charitable when they are around Christians/Christian culture.[12] Maybe atheists become nicer when they are around theists/Christians as well. Conservative 07:29, 17 January 2015 (EST) The secular/godless and evolution loving countries of Germany/France/UK who have sub-fertility rates are projected to be overrun by Muslims by 2030.[13]

I do know that a German Christian denomination that adheres to creationism is growing.

I think this is due to businesses having labor shortages and needing workers and the respective countries immigration policies and the countries wanting to support pensioners, but I could be mistaken.

In Switzerland, which is one of the most biblical creation loving countries of Europe and has more restrictive immigration policies, the proliferation of problem causing Muslims by 2030 is not projected to be an issue. Ireland does not appear to be projected to have a problem either (Perhaps it is because they are more religious than most Europe. The fertility rate of Ireland is 2.01 births per woman).

Of course, the projections of Muslims overrunning Germany/UK/France has the militant evolutionists/atheists/agnostics/secularists upset. For example, Richard Dawkins frequently mentions Muslims on his Twitter feed. If only these countries were more Christianity/creationism loving and had more children. All this unpleasantness with radical Muslims causing significant problems in their countries could be avoided.

On December 23, 2012, Professor Eric Kaufmann who teaches at Birbeck College, University of London wrote:

“I argue that 97% of the world's population growth is taking place in the developing world, where 95% of people are religious.

On the other hand, the secular West and East Asia has very low fertility and a rapidly aging population. The demographic disparity between the religious, growing global South and the aging, secular global North will peak around 2050. In the coming decades, the developed world's demand for workers to pay its pensions and work in its service sector will soar alongside the booming supply of young people in the third world. Ergo, we can expect significant immigration to the secular West which will import religious revival on the back of ethnic change. In addition, those with religious beliefs tend to have higher birth rates than the secular population, with fundamentalists having far larger families. The epicentre of these trends will be in immigration gateway cities like New York (a third white), Amsterdam (half Dutch), Los Angeles (28% white), and London, 45% white British."[14]

Of course, this all bad news for evolutionists/atheists/agnostics. I am hoping that theological conservative and biblical Christianity ultimately prevails in Europe in the 21st century. A lot is dependent on evangelism and policies regarding immigration. Conservative 14:13, 17 January 2015 (EST)

In addition, in Switzerland, they have generous gun laws and a gun culture (and low gun fatality rates), so citizens are better able to protect themselves against radical muslims. They are not so dependent on police/SWAT response times. Conservative 14:25, 17 January 2015 (EST)

British Liberal Evolutionist User:EJamesW Changing My Essay Title by Removing the Word Liberal

I didn't change the title, I merely reverted it to your original article. Here's the history:

and here's the history of the 'Charlie Hebdo' article I created:

I think this shows what really happened.

Well done for removing the bizarre and dishonest claims you made.

Unlike the group account account known as 'user:conserative', you don't yet have the privileges to put any embarrassing mistakes into the memory hole.

By the way please read my comments about your Nuclear target structures article, I'm sure I can help you to make this far more coherent and comprehensible.

EJamesW 14:48, 18 January 2015 (EST)

Liberal troll EJamesW did indeed change the title removing the word liberal by "merely reverted it to your original article." That is not for him to do on a Personal Essay (policy says to put it on the Talk Page) unless his goal was trolling which is grounds for a temporary ban.
Perhaps EJamesW conveniently chose to ignore the top Template:Essay By?
This essay is an original work by User:TheAmericanRedoubt. Please comment only on the talk page.
TheAmericanRedoubt 15:11, 18 January 2015 (EST)

Are you claiming that you didn't originally create an article called 'France Pays Dearly - Gun Control Laws and Gun Free Zones that Welcome Terrorists' in which you made outlandish and childish claims that you couldn't substantiate. So you erased it and put in a redirect to another article which included the word 'liberal' in the title. Very subtle. Just check the histories I linked to above.

As I said before, I'm glad you decided to removed the dishonest comments you made. You did the right thing. And I'm quite happy to help you with the Nuclear target structures article to make it more rational.

EJamesW 16:36, 18 January 2015 (EST)

It's impossible to have a rational discussion with a liberal atheist evolutionist Brit troll. EJamesW is officially on my ignore list. TheAmericanRedoubt 22:19, 18 January 2015 (EST)

quick note on Wschact

I blocked User:Wschact for two weeks. Conservative 16:22, 20 January 2015 (EST)

Thank you User:Conservative. Now I can get back to work submitting new material to Essay:Why do conservatives own firearms? and Essay:Conservative quotes on American patriotism, preparedness, firearms and religion rather than looking over my shoulder for more Wschact hounding and nipping at my heels. :-O
BTW, nice essay: Essay: What if I fail?. It motivated me to remember to stay the course, despite opposition from the peanut gallery. :-)
TheAmericanRedoubt 16:24, 20 January 2015 (EST)


So, given the understanding that my block has now expired, I'd like to discuss it with you. The short version is, I did give reason for removing the extra, and ample one at that. In Talk:Seung-Hui Cho#Re-Added Category:Gun Free Zones Removed by User:IHop I explained that Seung-Hui Cho performed his massacre in a gun free zone, not because of a gun free zone, and that he, himself is not a gun free zone. Virginia Tech shootings would be an accurate place for the Category:Gun free zones tag, but not the shooter himself.

In response to my second removal, wherein I justified my position, you blocked me for "Removing justified Category tags 2x without documenting why - trolling - sockpuppet for liberal troll?" While I admit that I should have put something in the talk page before the removal, we live and learn, and I did justify my position. I was not "trolling," nor am I a "sockpuppet for [a] liberal troll"

Please understand, I'm not trying to be argumentative here, I'm trying to understand exactly what I did wrong, and presenting the situation as I see it. Please, correct my inaccuracies in this situation.

IHop 13:00, 23 January 2015 (EST)

So, just ignoring me, then?
IHop 20:19, 24 January 2015 (EST)
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