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== Yet more on the repeated 500 errors ==
 
  
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I know people have said things about this before, but such comments always seem to be ignored or minimalized.  Every day or two, I get a "500" (Internal Server) error message. Sometimes the site is unavailable for up to an hour and a half before I can get on again.  This is not:
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== On proper grammar, or, did you know that most of the population of Texas is homosexual? ==
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*A network problem - I have seen this on at least four different networks, one of which is a high-end professional network.
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*Browser problem - By definition, this is a code the server returns, but I've tried at least 6 different browsers, with at least 3 different core engines
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*User problem - believe it or not, I do know what I'm doing
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That said, I understand that 500 errors are by definition unknown problems.  They are sent when the server knows that something bad happened, but has no idea what and couldn't even retrieve the usual error page to serve.  In other words, 500 errors are a pain, especially when they come and go.  Perhaps there is really nothing which can be done about this.  I will say that I've seen this kind of problem before with lower-price web hosting.  In my opinion, this is often the source of a 500 error, but I know there are many others as well.  If this is the case, complaining to the service provider or changing providers may be the only way to resolve this.<br />
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If this is an issue which everyone else does not really care about, then feel free to ignore this post entirely.  However, I thought I would just try to show that this is indeed a problem.  I know I would want to know if my public website was going down for one or more hours every couple days.  Here are some "proof" images (although I know they ''could'' be faked) in case my word isn't enough.<br />
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I have chided Cons repeatedly on proper punctuation, particularly regarding subordinate clauses and compound sentences.  For a sample, see [[User_talk:SamHB#Re:_Aburke]].
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[http://community.archnet.us/conservapedia/500/2016-03-04-10.jpg March 4th, 2016 at about 10am]<br />
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[http://community.archnet.us/conservapedia/500/2016-03-08-14.jpg March 8th, 2016 at about 2pm]<br />
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[http://community.archnet.us/conservapedia/500/2016-03-10-14.jpg March 10th, 2016 at about 2pm]<br />
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[http://community.archnet.us/conservapedia/500/2016-03-16-18.jpg March 16th, 2016 at about 6pm]<br />
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[http://community.archnet.us/conservapedia/500/2016-03-18-08.jpg March 18th, 2016 at about 8am]<br />
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[http://community.archnet.us/conservapedia/500/2016-03-30-15.jpg March 30th, 2016 at about 3pm]<br />
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[http://community.archnet.us/conservapedia/500/2016-04-02-22.jpg April 2nd, 2016 at about 10pm]<br />
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[http://community.archnet.us/conservapedia/500/2016-04-05-12.jpg April 5th, 2016 at about 12pm]<br />
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[http://community.archnet.us/conservapedia/500/2016-04-08-09-threeBrowsers.jpg April 8th, 2016 at about 9am #2] - Three browsers shown when [[Internet Explorer|IE]] worked but no others did. This was the only time I know of when this happened, and is a bit of a discrepancy. <br />
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Need I go on?  Just to be clear, I am not posting this just to complain, but to try to be helpful. Have a great day! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 14:40, 14 April 2016 (EDT)
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Well, it turns out that the same errors can show up in unexpected places, like the Texas Republican party’s official platform.  It has:
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Many of us have been spending most of the past month trying to clean up after TAR.  The fact that so many copyright problems have been left behind indicates that Conservapedia editors may not appreciate the importance of copyright law.  The edit box always displays the statement "You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource (see Conservapedia:Copyrights for details). '''Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!'''"  Permission means an agreement not only to place the text on Conservapedia, but also to license it to others on the same basis that all other Conservapedia content is licensed.  In some cases, TAR just copied and pasted from other websites without attributing the content to them.  In other cases, TAR copied large portions of text that a blog had quoted from another source.  I would suggest that everyone take the time to read [[Conservapedia:Copyrights]] again.  I also believe that we need more talk page templates to document when people have received permission to copy material.  I assume that getting written permissions would be best, and that they should be stored in some central place, just in case misunderstanding occur in the future. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 08:46, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
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{{cquote|Homosexuality is a chosen behavior that is contrary to the fundamental unchanging truths that has been ordained by God in the Bible, recognized by our nations founders, and shared by the majority of Texans.}}
  
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:The greatest problem for me is that I don't know if they have the right to copy on not, so I agree--it really would help to have a single place where permission proof is stored. I don't know how that would work, though. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 08:39, 25 April 2016 (EDT)
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See [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/majority-of-texas-gay_us_573e88bfe4b0613b5129e31d this].
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::We could have a template on the talk page which references the letter sent to Aschlafly. Perhaps the letters in the file could be numbered, and the number inserted in the template parameter.  The problem is that TAR copied verbatim from a particular blog that welcomed guest editors or copied from them.  Under US copyright law, the copyright belongs to the author.  We don't know if the author gave the copyright to the blog owner or licensed it with restrictions.  The email from the blog owner to TAR was not clear about what licensing rights he conveyed further.  He just said, "You can quote my blog up to 800 words at a time."  That does not give Conservapedia the right to further license the reuse of the quote (which we generally do.)  There is no need to quote that blog verbatim, and TAR should have written his own definitions when he posted them are separate articles.  It is almost as if he was trying to generate 100 one-sentence articles each with a footnote to a particular author (perhaps for the search engines).  But we now have 100 copyright headaches.
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::If Aschlafly had a scanner, we could post scanned copies of each permission letter somewhere on the internet and put a link in the talk page template. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 02:09, 4 May 2016 (EDT)
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== Please unlock ==
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Watch those commas!!!!  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 11:57, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
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:Wow. And shouldn't it be "have been ordained" rather than "has been ordained"?  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith| Pat Nixon for President]]</sup> 13:12, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
  
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Please unlock the [[Essay:Rebuttal to Counterexamples to Relativity]] page.  I need to reinstate (uncomment) item #22, to track the reinstated item #22 in the main counterexamples page.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 23:00, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
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== States and Governors ==
  
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I mentioned this earlier, but nothing happened - here are the U.S. states with red-linked governors:
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I have recently had (and still have) problems with pages being locked.  It's easy to see that these acts were performed in response to vandal attacks.  But it really isn't a good idea.
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It seems that [[Doug Ducey]] even isn't any longer governor of Arizona! The overall look of the articles on the smaller states is quite abysmal - and often outdated. As I am not American, I do not feel up to editing these articles in detail, but I have to ask: If they  cannot use Conservapedia even to check who the governor of an U.S. state is, what will high-school pupils think of it? They have to rely on Wikipedia to get up-dated information!
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#It makes it harder for people to do their work, obviously.  We have to request that the page be unlocked.  And those requests sometimes go unheeded.  See, for example, my request, just above, which has still not been acted upon.  The two pages are supposed to stay synchronized with each other; there is a big editor-only-visible comment to that effect at the top of each page, but they are out of sync, and I can't fix this.
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#It gives the impression that Conservapedia is not an open-editing "best of the public" web site.  It could be taken as evidence that the administrators do not trust the public.  Not trusting the public is not a conservative value.
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#It is ineffective.  We often have vandal attacks, in which someone vandalizes as many pages as possible before they get stopped.  The locking is obviously a response to these attacks.  But people engaging in mass vandalism will just go on to another page when they see one that is locked. The total number of pages that they vandalize before they are stopped is still the same.  The amount of work that sysops (or, in a few cases, I) must do to clean up the mess is the same.
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[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 19:00, 1 May 2016 (EDT)
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:If it's any consolation, I agree, but your argument seems to have fallen of deaf ears.  In my opinion, protection should be reserved for ''some'' templates, and perhaps pages which are under heavy attack for a few days ''at most''.  While it's true that they can go vandalize elsewhere, sometimes [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39xlPMs3Obk an organized effort] is made to attack a single page for one reason or another.  For this reason, it could be helpful to ''temporally'' protect such a page. However, I'm not as experienced on CP as the admins here--perhaps they have tried it this way and already know it doesn't work.  I won't presume to understand exactly how their job works. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 11:52, 12 May 2016 (EDT)
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It would be nice to have articles on the governors, too, just to check their political priorities. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 05:11, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
  
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:I know a fair amount about political concepts, people I can have a hand in electing, and other well-known political figures.  However, I know little about--if you'll pardon the expression--lesser politicians, who have little significance to me.  Therefore, I'm sorry to say that I know almost nothing about these governors.  However, I've done a little on a couple of them.  I may do more, but all I can do is research then write based on what I find.  It could be hopelessly inaccurate, but I have no way of knowing.  For this reason, I'm trying not to add too much detail, since I don't want to make fa lse statements.  If anyone else knows anything about them, please add to or revise what I've written! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 11:01, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
  
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Can someone explain why SoridAtom's writings were treated the way they were?  He wrote an article [[Atheism is the default position]] that, within the space of 36 minutes, Cons deleted, restored, deleted again, restored again, moved to an essay with a redirect, deleted the redirect, and deleted the essay, as well as blocking him.
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::Well spoken, David. Speak of what you know; not of what some website wants you to believe. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 02:57, 26 May 2016 (EDT)
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== One column footnoting vs. two column footnoting and mobile devices ==
  
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I looked at it, and found nothing outside of Conservapedia's stance on these issues.  It seemed to lie fully within what is commonly accepted.  I made some notes to myself for future criticism (gently, not fire and brimstone) about the fact that it had two astonishingly bad run-on sentences.  One of them had three main clauses and one subordinate clause, without a single comma anywhere.  It went on for 3-1/2 lines on my screen.
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For this article [[Operation Compass]] I added footnoting code at the bottom of the article for the new editor.  
  
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If you look at the article, you will see that the footnoting is one column footnoting and not two column footnoting.  
  
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Could someone please restore this, so that we can see what it was about?  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 01:26, 12 May 2016 (EDT)
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I think I recall reading that one column footnoting is better for mobile device readers, but I am not sure. Do you know if this is the case or not?
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:It was a copy and paste job and I thought his username was sordidatom. I misread his username. I can unblock him, but I am not going to restore his cut and paste essay. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:41, 12 May 2016 (EDT)
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== The family-friendly nature of this site is being willfully undermined ==
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Also, if you look at my edit which is [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Operation_Compass&diff=1224027&oldid=1224024 HERE], you will see that my column width is colwidth=30em .  I think this might be better for mobile devices as well, but I am not sure.
  
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The [[bestiality]] article contains, in the first section, this big quote, with a footnote reference to the "newsreport3738" web site.  (By the way, the Conservapedia article says that the quote is about "secular Europe", whereas the actual quote says nothing about being secular.)
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If I am right about these two matters, I think Conservapedia's manual of style should be updated. Also, we might want to clean up our most high traffic articles so one column format is used.   
  
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{{cquote|Bestiality is having a weird renaissance in Europe. Perhaps ironically, it kicked off when activists succeeded in banning the practice in places like Germany and Norway. In the background, something else emerged simultaneously: an animal-sex-tourism industry, which has been blossoming in Denmark.<ref>[https://sites.google.com/site/newsreport3738/ Vice News report on bestiality upsurge in Europe]</ref>}}
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Does anyone know about these matters? I ask because a lot of people are using mobile devices now. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 03:11, 5 June 2016 (EDT)
  
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The web reference is out there for all to see.  When you go to that site, you have to make one more click to get to the actual quote. I won't repeat The URL of the web page on which that quote is found, other than to say that it has the a*****-f****** phrase, but the full quote on that page has a little extra something in front, in a large boldface font.
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:I don't know, but I have a testing platform I might be able to use tomorrow, if no one else knows either.  It would have sense that single columns would be better, but the Wiki software comes with a mobile mode, so this might counteract columns.  I'll try to get back to you on this. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 23:26, 5 June 2016 (EDT)
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::I'll do some real-world testing tomorrow, but if you click the "Mobile View" link in CP's footer ([http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Operation_Compass&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile here's the direct link]), you can see that columns are removed completely.  Therefore, it seems that it shouldn't matter what we do for columns. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 00:38, 6 June 2016 (EDT)
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:::A big problem with 2 column footnotes is that if there are a small number of footnotes, it will break them up with only one or two words in the second column. It does not have code to put the column break between two different footnotes. Thank you DavidB for cleaning this up. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 04:39, 6 June 2016 (EDT)
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::::I'm not very good at designing templates for Wikis, but I wonder if someone could fix that.  Anyway, I did a little testing and all the mobile platforms I tried did load the wiki's mobile view, with the single column of references.  I even tried the [[Atheism]] article, with its three columns and had the same result, even if it was painfully slow due to the size of the page.  It looks like we can do columns for computers only without worrying about mobile viewing.  If you have anything else you want me to check, though, let me know! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 08:39, 6 June 2016 (EDT)
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OK. Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:32, 6 June 2016 (EDT)
  
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Bestiality is having a weird renaissance in Europe. Perhaps ironically, it kicked off when activists succeeded in banning the practice in places like Germany and Norway. In the background, something else emerged simultaneously: an animal-sex-tourism industry, which has been blossoming in Denmark.}}
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== Is Trump the new Zachary Taylor? ==
  
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The quote goes on well beyond that first paragraph, and has a video of a person detailing his tastes in bestiality. The whole thing is utterly disgusting and obscene. And yet it is here at Conservapedia. The third of the [[Conservapedia:Commandments]] says that everything, including links, must be "... family-friendly, clean, concise, and without gossip or foul language".
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That's what this article argues: "[http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/history-campaign-politics-zachary-taylor-killed-whigs-political-party-213935 How an outsider president killed a party]." Taylor, elected president in 1848, was the ultimate outsider candidate, even more so than Trump. He had no political experience whatsoever, and he proudly boasted that he had never even voted. When he was nominated by the Whig Party, he was known only as the commander who defeated the Mexicans at Buena Vista. But I can't agree with the article's headline. Taylor was not the guy responsible for the downfall of the Whigs. That would be Millard Fillmore, Taylor's vice president. If Taylor was the non-ideological celebrity candidate of 1848, Fillmore was a true believer, a Whig version of Ted Cruz. Whig ideology called for the president to defer to Congress. Taylor died in office after a year. When Fillmore succeed, the long-frustrated "ultra Whigs" finally got their day in the sun. It was a disaster. Although personally opposed to slavery, Fillmore deferred to Congress as a good Whig. This meant strictly enforcing the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850. It was a combination of views made him hugely unpopular, both in the North and in the South. The party collapsed in 1852. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 02:50, 10 June 2016 (EDT)
  
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Can someone clean this place up?  I'm trying to get students of high school age to read my stuff, and I'm sure a lot of other people are as well.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 21:21, 13 May 2016 (EDT)
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Is there anyone around who can block these people?  There still creating accounts.  Maybe we should add "1.888.811.4532" to the spam filter.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 22:22, 11 September 2016 (EDT)
  
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:::Ah c'mon Cons! Vice News a "new source" indeed! It would be amusing if it weren't so pathetic. It's a lie, Cons, and we all know it.  [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 01:05, 14 May 2016 (EDT)
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:Blocked--finally. You're right, they keep using text from the same crawls of Amazon and Quickbooks.  It should be easy to add temporary entries to the spam filter. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</small></sup> 23:14, 11 September 2016 (EDT)
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So, Europe is not very secular and several evolution loving countries didn't have a problem with bestiality recently? The Jerusalem Post was wrong and Copenhagen was not the "bestiality capital" of Europe? The first "bestiality rights" organization in the world didn't happen in Europe? Liberals, it is time to stop living in denial!
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AlanE, according to Wikipedia, a website founded by an atheist and an agnostic: "In December 2013, Vice Media expanded its international news division into an independent division dedicated to news exclusively and created Vice News. Vice Media put $50 million into its news division, which now has 34 bureaus worldwide and has been praised for in-depth coverage of international news."[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_News#cite_note-2]   Here is the source they used: "[http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2014/03/04/vice-news-launches-promising-changing-of-the-guard-in-media/ Vice News Launches, Promising 'Changing Of The Guard In Media]'". ''Forbes''. AlanE, is Forbes magazine a news organization?
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::They're still at it. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:48, 13 September 2016 (EDT)
  
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Just admit it. There was a notable problem in the atheist population with bestiality and the young earth creationist community didn't have this problem despite the Amish being around animals frequently! The Amish are a tight-nit community and unlike atheists, they haven't had a notable problem with bestiality or loneliness. See also: [[Atheism and loneliness]] and [[Atheism and bestiality]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 06:31, 14 May 2016 (EDT)
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:::I agree. No parent who has their child's welfare as a priority would not allow them to visit Conservapedia. What was once a good conservative resource, meant for children, has devolved into resource that has many more words on bestiality than the Lord of the Rings has on Hobbits.--[[User:JamieVa|JamieVa]] ([[User talk:JamieVa|talk]]) 11:18, 14 May 2016 (EDT)
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On proper grammar, or, did you know that most of the population of Texas is homosexual?

I have chided Cons repeatedly on proper punctuation, particularly regarding subordinate clauses and compound sentences. For a sample, see User_talk:SamHB#Re:_Aburke.

Well, it turns out that the same errors can show up in unexpected places, like the Texas Republican party’s official platform. It has:

“ Homosexuality is a chosen behavior that is contrary to the fundamental unchanging truths that has been ordained by God in the Bible, recognized by our nations founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. ”

See this.

Watch those commas!!!! SamHB (talk) 11:57, 20 May 2016 (EDT)

Wow. And shouldn't it be "have been ordained" rather than "has been ordained"? RobS Pat Nixon for President 13:12, 20 May 2016 (EDT)

States and Governors

I mentioned this earlier, but nothing happened - here are the U.S. states with red-linked governors:

state governor ann
Alaska Bill Walker
Arizona Doug Ducey
Arkansas Asa Hutchinson
Hawaii David Ige
Illinois Bruce Rauner
Maryland Larry Hogan Thank you, User:DavidB4!
Montana Steve Bullock
Nebraska Pete Ricketts
New Hampshire Maggie Hassan
North Carolina Pat McCrory
Pennsylvania Tom Wolf
Rhode Island Gina Raimondo
Washington Jay Inslee

It seems that Doug Ducey even isn't any longer governor of Arizona! The overall look of the articles on the smaller states is quite abysmal - and often outdated. As I am not American, I do not feel up to editing these articles in detail, but I have to ask: If they cannot use Conservapedia even to check who the governor of an U.S. state is, what will high-school pupils think of it? They have to rely on Wikipedia to get up-dated information!

It would be nice to have articles on the governors, too, just to check their political priorities. --AugustO (talk) 05:11, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

I know a fair amount about political concepts, people I can have a hand in electing, and other well-known political figures. However, I know little about--if you'll pardon the expression--lesser politicians, who have little significance to me. Therefore, I'm sorry to say that I know almost nothing about these governors. However, I've done a little on a couple of them. I may do more, but all I can do is research then write based on what I find. It could be hopelessly inaccurate, but I have no way of knowing. For this reason, I'm trying not to add too much detail, since I don't want to make fa lse statements. If anyone else knows anything about them, please add to or revise what I've written! --David B (talk) 11:01, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
Well spoken, David. Speak of what you know; not of what some website wants you to believe. AlanE (talk) 02:57, 26 May 2016 (EDT)

One column footnoting vs. two column footnoting and mobile devices

For this article Operation Compass I added footnoting code at the bottom of the article for the new editor.

If you look at the article, you will see that the footnoting is one column footnoting and not two column footnoting.

I think I recall reading that one column footnoting is better for mobile device readers, but I am not sure. Do you know if this is the case or not?

Also, if you look at my edit which is HERE, you will see that my column width is colwidth=30em . I think this might be better for mobile devices as well, but I am not sure.

If I am right about these two matters, I think Conservapedia's manual of style should be updated. Also, we might want to clean up our most high traffic articles so one column format is used.

Does anyone know about these matters? I ask because a lot of people are using mobile devices now. Conservative (talk) 03:11, 5 June 2016 (EDT)

I don't know, but I have a testing platform I might be able to use tomorrow, if no one else knows either. It would have sense that single columns would be better, but the Wiki software comes with a mobile mode, so this might counteract columns. I'll try to get back to you on this. --David B (talk) 23:26, 5 June 2016 (EDT)
I'll do some real-world testing tomorrow, but if you click the "Mobile View" link in CP's footer (here's the direct link), you can see that columns are removed completely. Therefore, it seems that it shouldn't matter what we do for columns. --David B (talk) 00:38, 6 June 2016 (EDT)
A big problem with 2 column footnotes is that if there are a small number of footnotes, it will break them up with only one or two words in the second column. It does not have code to put the column break between two different footnotes. Thank you DavidB for cleaning this up. JDano (talk) 04:39, 6 June 2016 (EDT)
I'm not very good at designing templates for Wikis, but I wonder if someone could fix that. Anyway, I did a little testing and all the mobile platforms I tried did load the wiki's mobile view, with the single column of references. I even tried the Atheism article, with its three columns and had the same result, even if it was painfully slow due to the size of the page. It looks like we can do columns for computers only without worrying about mobile viewing. If you have anything else you want me to check, though, let me know! --David B (talk) 08:39, 6 June 2016 (EDT)

OK. Thanks. Conservative (talk) 10:32, 6 June 2016 (EDT)

Is Trump the new Zachary Taylor?

That's what this article argues: "How an outsider president killed a party." Taylor, elected president in 1848, was the ultimate outsider candidate, even more so than Trump. He had no political experience whatsoever, and he proudly boasted that he had never even voted. When he was nominated by the Whig Party, he was known only as the commander who defeated the Mexicans at Buena Vista. But I can't agree with the article's headline. Taylor was not the guy responsible for the downfall of the Whigs. That would be Millard Fillmore, Taylor's vice president. If Taylor was the non-ideological celebrity candidate of 1848, Fillmore was a true believer, a Whig version of Ted Cruz. Whig ideology called for the president to defer to Congress. Taylor died in office after a year. When Fillmore succeed, the long-frustrated "ultra Whigs" finally got their day in the sun. It was a disaster. Although personally opposed to slavery, Fillmore deferred to Congress as a good Whig. This meant strictly enforcing the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850. It was a combination of views made him hugely unpopular, both in the North and in the South. The party collapsed in 1852. PeterKa (talk) 02:50, 10 June 2016 (EDT)

They're at it again

Is there anyone around who can block these people? There still creating accounts. Maybe we should add "1.888.811.4532" to the spam filter. SamHB (talk) 22:22, 11 September 2016 (EDT)

Blocked--finally. You're right, they keep using text from the same crawls of Amazon and Quickbooks. It should be easy to add temporary entries to the spam filter. --David B (TALK) 23:14, 11 September 2016 (EDT)
They're still at it. --1990'sguy (talk) 10:48, 13 September 2016 (EDT)

Is the server clock messed up?

The clock seems to be a few hours fast. According to what it says, I'm going to try to repair the E=mc^2 article at about 04:30. It is now 00:46 EDT. Or have you switched to UTC? I thought CP was on EST/EDT. SamHB (talk) 00:47, 1 October 2016 (EDT)

Never mind. It's back on EDT now. SamHB (talk) 00:59, 1 October 2016 (EDT)

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