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::::: I heartily endorse Hoji as a judge!!!  You'd be fantastic.  As soon as Joaquin and Sharon become aware of this and approve, I'll add you Hoji to the judges' confidential namespace.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:59, 9 July 2007 (EDT)
 
::::: I heartily endorse Hoji as a judge!!!  You'd be fantastic.  As soon as Joaquin and Sharon become aware of this and approve, I'll add you Hoji to the judges' confidential namespace.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:59, 9 July 2007 (EDT)
 
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::::::Excellent!  Hoji has my full support as a judge. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]]<sup>[[User talk:SharonS|Talk]]</sup> 13:00, 9 July 2007 (EDT)
 
== Judges' pages ==
 
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Revision as of 13:00, 9 July 2007

Scoring System

I suggest including edits to Template:Newsline, Template:AboutC, and Template:Tfa, since they help this site as well. Crocoite 09:55, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

Excellent suggestion. Contributions to the front page are always very helpful. ~ SharonTalk 09:57, 2 July 2007 (EDT)
Thanks for adding that Sharon. I also suggest adding points for Welcoming new users. Crocoite 10:33, 2 July 2007 (EDT)
I have added welcoming new users to the scoring list for one point. ~ SharonTalk 07:24, 6 July 2007 (EDT)
Thanks Sharon. --Crocoite 08:05, 6 July 2007 (EDT)
Now we have a link from the Main Page to older news. We have only started retrieving the Previous Breaking News articles. I suggest adding a point to the scoring system to encourage other sysops to add to this valuable archive. --Crocoite 15:26, 7 July 2007 (EDT)

At a quick glance, it seems like giving points for blocking is going to put teams with members that don't have blocking rights at a disadvantage. Plus, you also have a bit of dumb luck there too, depending on the quantity of vandals online when a particular sysop is online. Also consider, you are saying 5 blocks = 1 Quality New Article in point value. The time taken to write a quality article is much greater than the time it takes to block 5 people. Just my two cents. --Colest 10:07, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

It is expected that all team members will have blocking rights. If they don't already have them when chosen to be on the team, then they will likely be given blocking rights for the contest. Note that a good block is valuable and draws upon skills, even if it doesn't take much time. Time is not the only consideration for rewarding points. So I don't see a reason to change that point scoring basis.--Aschlafly 10:32, 2 July 2007 (EDT)
Thank you for clarifying. --Colest 10:54, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

Quality

How will quality be measured? BritCon 11:02, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

Judges will be picked after the teams are determined. Would you like to volunteer for possible selection as a judge?--Aschlafly 11:09, 2 July 2007 (EDT)
According to the Rules A panel of judges shall be chosen from among the Sysops.... As far as I am aware I am not a sysop. Are you making the rules up as you go along? How will the judges measure quality?
BritCon 11:20, 2 July 2007 (EDT)
Oh, I see. You're right. No, I'm not making up the rules as we go along (note that the contest has not yet begun, by the way). Obviously the captains (I'm not one) will have to agree on the rules, rule changes, and any judges chosen. You might still volunteer to be a judge, but it seems less likely you'd be chosen unless you become a Sysop (a process open to all, by the way).
The judges will evaluate quality, not me.--Aschlafly 11:26, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

Scoring system

I suggest that the points awarded to a new entry be decreased from 6 to 5, and the points awarded to a quality edit of an existing entry be increased from 4 to 5. It seems to me they should be rewarded equally, as they are equally valuable.

Also, a quality contribution to the front page is worth more than 2 points (and takes longer also). How about 3 or 4 points for that? Godspeed.--Aschlafly 21:56, 8 July 2007 (EDT)

Your suggestions are excellent. ~ SharonTalk 22:37, 8 July 2007 (EDT)
I would like to see at least a vague definition of "quality new article", so we can know what we are aiming for. Also, if the description merits it, more points should be awarded to quality new articles, and less for blocking/categorizing. Also, perhaps giving points for blocks is a bad idea - it would give an incentive to block users who may be new or inexperienced, and don't mean any harm. This works directly against our goal of attracting new editors. My $0.02. --Ĥøĵĭmåçħôńğtalk 22:46, 8 July 2007 (EDT)
Hoji, you'd make an excellent judge.
Better you, would like to organize a public school team to take on the winner of this contest??? Godspeed.--Aschlafly 00:43, 9 July 2007 (EDT)
I would revel in such a... marvelous opportunity, if I can find out who on CP is educated by the public school system. Also, I do not think I would like to judge, as I am still waiting for a response from Conservative, re his spot on Team 1 (he expressed disinterest). Thanks, --Ĥøĵĭmåçħôńğtalk 12:45, 9 July 2007 (EDT)
On second thought, I would be glad to be a judge, provided it does not interfere with the plans being made. --Ĥøĵĭmåçħôńğtalk 12:50, 9 July 2007 (EDT)
I heartily endorse Hoji as a judge!!! You'd be fantastic. As soon as Joaquin and Sharon become aware of this and approve, I'll add you Hoji to the judges' confidential namespace. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 12:59, 9 July 2007 (EDT)
Excellent! Hoji has my full support as a judge. ~ SharonTalk 13:00, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Judges' pages

Andy, should't the judges have their own confidential page?

Also: the judges will need access at least to a roster of each team in order to tally points or to evaluate each team's point claims.

Last of all: I propose that the team gets its two points for a block, so long as the judges determine that any reasonable and prudent non-competitor would have acted similarly. Anyone can have a block reversed, but still have good and sufficient cause to apply the block at the time. But I wouldn't want to encourage even the appearance of someone blocking without cause merely to earn points.--TerryHTalk 06:44, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Great points, TerryH. The judges (and I hope you've agreed to be one) will have discretion to add or subtract points as prudent, just as a referee has some discretion in sporting events.
I'll set up a namespace for the judges now.--Aschlafly 12:30, 9 July 2007 (EDT)