Debate:Does the European Union pose a threat to the United States?

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A federal Europe would be the most powerful political entity in the world. So, yes.

Much more powerful will be Eurabia, The European Union and Arab League alliance. Check out this book [1]. Jaques 17:25, 12 April 2007 (EDT).
Curses! Our evil joint European-Arab plans for world domination have been discovered! AKjeldsen 19:33, 12 April 2007 (EDT)
It'll be United States of Israel Vs. Eurabia.Jaques 19:55, 12 April 2007 (EDT)
But minus Britain, which will become an american millitary base called 'Airstrip One'. And will be on the frontline of the war. And we'll all be told that we're in a perpetual state of war against an enemy we never see. Where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, George Orwells 1984, (not to mention George Bush's 2007!). Eyupdutch 11:29, 13 April 2007 (BST)
Those cursed Europeans, with their Declaration of Human Rights, and their culture, and their advanced standards of social security! Of course they're a threat to national security: all our best scientists, writers, and thinkers might migrate there. Wikinterpreter
The EU is wimps, they need America for protection. Hamtandrus16:26, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
Need america for protection? Maybe. Need protecting from America? Almost certainly.

Wuh? Plurals and singulars all over the place! Anyway, Hamtandrus, is this really the case? The way geopolitics is shaping up, even if Europe will clash economically with Russia, at least its not going to get mauled by China. Wikinterpreter

EU is being swallowed by Arab League.Jaques 16:32, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
You keep saying this. What does it actually mean? Oh, and don't cite that book again. It's so riddled with errors:

'There are three forms of jihad (sic), the military jihad, the economic jihad and the cultural jihad.'

Such a statement represents a fundamental ignorance of Islamic philosophy - all of this would be laughable, if it wasn't indicative of such dangerous hate and bigotry. Wikinterpreter

studies[2] have shown that 2nd-3rd generation immigrants in Europe are even more radicalized than new immigrants, probably due to fear of loosing cultural identity.Jaques 15:15, 15 April 2007 (EDT)
What exactly do you fear from your theorised Arab-European union? eyupdutch 16th April 2007 10:44 (BST)

"We are at war with Eurasia; we have always been at war with Eurasia..." Now get back to your Victory Gin. Human 00:47, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

Jaques probably means the rise of fundamentalist Islam in Europe due to immigrants, I'm a European myself and I believe European governments sometimes don't take the affirmative action they should. However, the same could be said about the rise of Christian Fundamentalism in the US, actually, when you think of it, fundamentalist Christian and Muslims have a lot of beliefs and values in common, hopefully they keep hating each other though, cause if they would join forces, both Europe and the US would be finished.

Middle Man


Name on common belief shared by radical moslems and these so called "Christian Fundamentalists". European governments shouldnt have to take any "affirmative action" at all, its not their responsibility. Maybe you should move to saudi arabia and bask in their "affirmative action".Bohdan
That, to quote someone on this very site, 'Christianity and the Bible superior ... are ... to other religions and scriptures', but replace 'Christianity' and 'Bible' with 'Islam' and Koran? Was it Botha's responsibility that black South Africans were obscenely treated as second-class citizens? Wikinterpretertalk?


Alright, here's a list of beliefs Muslim and Christian fundies share:

1) Same God (the God of Abraham), both the Koran and the Bible contain the old testament.

2) Abortion is bad.

3) Gays are bad.

4) Sex outside a marriage is bad.

5) The state should actively support their religion (prayer in school, etc...).

6) Nonbelievers should be "saved" by converting them.

7) Holy books should be interpreted literally, even if they contradict science.

8) Modern western society has become an immoral Soddom and Gomorra.

9) No matter how nice, or good you are, you'll go to hell if you don't belief in God.

10) Religious law should be introduced (yes, some Christians actually want this).

11) Vaccinations are a bad thing, especially if they help save lives of "promiscuous" people".

12) For some reason women should not be equal to men.

13) Overall obsession with topics regarding sexuality and women, while their respective prophets mainly focused on social justice.

I could go on, but I think I've made my point clear.

And with "affirmative action" I don't mean going off to fight Muslim countries, I simply meant more measures should be taken against radical imams and groups within Europe, instead of doing the overly political correct thing of denying the problem exists.

Middle Man


I guess i misinterpreted your statement. My mistake. Bohdan

how do these beliefs make you a "fundy"? The big difference is that one side believes in killing non-believers. The other doesnot.Bohdan