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PZ Myers

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Paul Zachary Myers, better known as PZ Myers, is a liberal atheist and evolutionist activist in the creation-evolution controversy, contributing to The Panda's Thumb and Pharyngula blogs. Myers is also an associate professor of biology at the University of Minnesota Morris (UMM)[1]

PZ Myers commented, while listening to Michael Behe lecture on Intelligent design, that "In science, we scream a lot."[1] Myers' emotionalism may have helped earn him the label of having an "eccentric voice" by the newspaper USA Today.[2] In May of 2012, it was pointed out by supporters of Creation Ministries International's Question evolution! campaign that from a global perspective the public's interest in the views of PZ Myers and in atheism are on the decline while interest in Jesus and Christianity are on the upswing (see: Global atheism and Decline of atheism and Atheism and the internet and Global Christianity).[3]

According to Evolution News, he opposes democratically-elected school boards deciding how evolution should be taught; feeling that it should instead be done by "Scientists with years of training in the subject, and qualified science teachers who understand the fundamentals of the theory." [4]

In October of 2011, Christian apologist Mariano Grinbank commenting on Myers' dodging of a debate challenge from Vox Day wrote:

Will the biologist, PZ Myers, take on the challenge of the Question Evolution campaign and answer the 15 Questions for Evolutionists? Or, will he, yet again, run with tail betwixt legs, continue refusing to engage in reasoned discourse and merely keep on feeding his cult of personality hero worshipers?[5]

On September 7, 2011, Vox Day wrote concerning the Question evolution! campaign:

It should be interesting to see the answers to these questions presented by the Question Evolution campaign, assuming of course that an evolutionist who is capable of responding to substantive questions with answers that do not boil down to "you are stupid and ignorant of science to even ask me such a thing" can be found...

It is my contention that evolution is, from a scientific perspective, an almost totally irrelevant sideshow. The number of scientists who have actually used evolution for anything over the last 150 years is dwarfed by the number of scientists who are still desperately trying to provide a scientific foundation for TENS. The only reason evolution is assumed to be of such presumed importance is due to its philosophical usefulness to materialist philosophers and pedopropagandists like Richard Dawkins.[6]

Poor scholarship, weak leadership skills, denialism and engaged in selective quoting

See also: Atheism and leadership and Global atheism and Decline of atheism

The article Atheism is rudderless and unseaworthy charges that PZ Myers exhibits poor leadership skills, lacks due diligence in his scholarship, practices denialism and engaged in selective quoting.[7]

On July 24, 2012, a supporter of Creation Ministries International's Question evolution! campaign pointed out that PZ Myers exhibits poor leadership skills, lacks due diligence in his scholarship, practices denialism and engaged in selective quoting.[7]

Specifically, an article entitled Atheism is rudderless and unseaworthy among other things declares:

One of the hallmarks of leaders is that they search for and recognize opportunities and help their communities capitalize on them. In addition, they scan the environment for problems which threaten their communities and help their communities solve them. Let's take a look at PZ Myers' problem recognition and problem solving abilities and see how they stack up....

In 2012, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (GCTS) reported that every day there are 800 less atheists per day, 1,100 less non-religious (agnostic) people per day and 83,000 more people professing to be Christians per day (see: Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary - status of Global Mission report).

Furthermore, in 2009, the book A sceptics guide to atheism indicated: "A worldwide poll taken in 1991 put the global figure for atheists at just 4.4% of the population. By 2006 it was estimated that only 2% of the world population were atheists."

The Birbeck, University of London professor Eric Kaufmann declared to a secular Australian audience in a lecture titled Shall the religious inherit the earth: "The trends that are happening worldwide inevitably in an age of globalization are going to affect us."

Eric Kaufmann using a multitude of demographic studies argues in an academic paper entitled Shall the Righteous Inherit the Earth? Demography and Politics in the Twenty-First Century that the decline of atheism in terms of its global adherents is an established trend that will persist for the foreseeable future and the rate of decline will accelerate...

Furthermore, Myers chooses to ignore an inconvenient fact from his own source...

...Myers fails to point out that from the most recent period apparently examined by International Social Survey Programme (ISSP) was from 1998 to 2008. During that 10 year period, the ISSP indicated the percentage of atheists/agnostics decreased in America and the number of theists increased during that period. Specifically, in 1998 the percentage of Americans who didn't believe in God was 3.2% and in 2008 it was 2.8% which is a decease in the percentage of atheists/agnostics. Also, the ISSP indicated that 77.5% of Americans were theists overall in 1998 and in 2008 it was 78.2 percent which is an increase in the percentage of theists...

In 2011, the Gallup organization wrote "More than 9 in 10 Americans still say "yes" when asked the basic question "Do you believe in God?". In 2008, the American Religious Indentification Survey (ARIS) reported .7% of Americans self-identified themselves as atheists and .9% of Americans self-identified as agnostics... In 2007, Pew Forum estimated that 1.6% of Americans are atheists and 2.4% of Americans are agnostics....

Myers' analysis of the current situation facing the atheist community in terms of its global decline and the future implications of this decline exhibits poor scholarship, denialism and poor leadership.[7]

In addition, the article points out that atheists have sub-replacement birth rates while the religious population has more children. Furthermore, it is pointed out that PZ Myers' rabid pro-abortion advocacy further accelerates the decline of atheism in the world.[7]

For more information please see the article: Atheism is rudderless and unseaworthy

Lack of a plan to stop decline of global atheism and global agnosticism

Using academic studies, survey data and other information, supporters of the Question evolution! campaign maintain that including PZ Myers, there is a lack of sound leadership within the agnostic/atheist and evolutionist communities in dealing with the global decline of atheism and agnosticism.


Banning of Thunderf00t from Freethoughtblogs

See also: Atheist factions

On July 13, 2012 produced a video criticizing PZ Myers involvement in his banning from FreeThoughtbBlogs. The video accuses PZ Myers of a lack of integrity and engaging in censorship.[8]

Vox Day wrote that Thunderf00t's removal from Freethoughtblogs exemplified PZ Myers's unwillingness to intellectually engage his opponents and his lack of integrity.[9]

The issue which appeared to spark the contention was how to properly deal with the significant amount of misogny within the atheist community (see also: Atheism and women and Atheism and rape and Elevatorgate and Women's views of Richard Dawkins and Atheist leaders and immoral relationships).[10][11][12][13]

Health issues

For more information see: PZ Myers' health issues and New Atheism leadership's problem with excess weight and Internet atheism and obesity

Medical science research indicates that excess weight impairs brain function.[14][15]

A 2009 picture of a significantly overweight PZ Myers can be found HERE. A 2010 picture taken in Australia shows PZ Myers drinking ale/beer and he had excess weight in his abdominal area.[16] In 2010, PZ Myers had health problems related to his heart.[17] In addition, medical science research indicates that excess weight impairs brain function.[14][15] Given PZ Myers' biological training and the wide dissemination of the harmful health effects of being overweight in terms of cardiovascular health and brain function, it is unfortunate that preventative medicine was not used in greater measure in terms of his health.[14][15][18] PZ Myers inattention to diligently implementing the recommendations of nutritional science, exercise science and medical science is not entirely surprising given his vehement advocacy of evolutionary pseudoscience. There have been a number of notable evolutionists who have been overweight. In addition, the atheist community appears to have problems with obesity. On June 1, 2011, Myers posted a picture of himself and others on his blog and Myers appeared to no longer have issues with being overweight.[19]

New atheism leadership's problem with being overweight

For additional information please see: New Atheism leadership's problem with excess weight

PZ Myers is a leader within the New Atheism movement which is a militant form of atheism. The New Atheism leadership has had significant issues with being overweight (please see: New Atheism leadership's problem with excess weight).

Richard Dawkins
As of May 2011, Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris have not publicly commented on the significant problems the New Atheism leadership has experienced in terms of overweight members.

The term New Atheism which first appeared in the November 2006 edition of Wired magazine, is frequently applied to a series of six best-selling books by five authors that appeared in the period between 2004–2008. These authors include Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett, Richard Dawkins, Victor J. Stenger and Christopher Hitchens.[20] 3 out of 5 of these atheist men have had issues with being overweight as can be seen HERE and HERE and HERE Also, as noted above PZ Myers has had problems with being overweight. In the late 1990s, Dennet had coronary artery bypass surgery (coronary artery bypass surgery reroutes blood around clogged arteries to enhance blood flow and oxygen to the heart).[21][22] As of May 2011, Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris have not publicly commented on the significant problems the New Atheism leadership has experienced in terms of overweight members.

Hippocrates was an early advocate of the health benefits of exercise and nutrition.[23] On the other hand, PZ Myers and a significant amount of other New Atheism leaders, seem to have demonstrated a lack of a full appreciation of the importance of nutritional science, exercise science and the latest findings of medical science (see: New Atheism leadership's problem with excess weight}. Also, unlike PZ Myers, Hippocrates was pro-life.[24]

For more information please see: Theories of New Atheism leadership's problem with excess weight

Vox Day on the issue of atheism and obesity

See also: Overweight atheist PZ Myers posing with some young overweight fans

In 2011, the theist Vox Day had an individual complain about the notion that the atheist community has a problem with obesity (Please see: Atheism and obesity). As a result, on May 19, 2011, Vox Day released a blog post entitled Mailvox: now, who said atheists are fat? where 80% of the people taking a picture with PZ Myers were overweight and PZ Myers was overweight in the picture as well as can be seen HERE.[25] The picture was originally posted on PZ Myer's blog Pharyngula by Myers on May 16, 2011 and an online argument quickly ensued concerning the appearance of the photograph's participants.[26]

Speech at the 2010 Global Atheist Convention

At the 2010 Global atheist Convention, an overweight PZ Myers likened belief in God to a brain infection plus made the blanket statement that religion makes people stupid and/or do stupid stupid things.[27] As noted above, according to medical science, being overweight causes brain impairment.[14][15] A 2009 picture of a significantly overweight PZ Myers can be found HERE.

PZ Myers on bestiality

See also: PZ Myers on bestiality

PZ Myers wrote about bestiality:

So, to answer clueless thick-skulled Christian idiot’s question, I don’t object to bestiality in a very limited set of specific conditions, but do not support it in any way[28][29]

A Christian commented on Myers's statement:

If you are sensing that there is something amiss with a person stating he neither supports nor opposes bestiality, then you are more perceptive with regard to moral reasoning than PZ Myers is. Myers once stated his morality is based on feelings of empathy. In an interview he stated, "If I punched you in the face, you would feel bad and I would feel bad ..and that's where morality comes from." Ironically, Myers offers a cartoon that mocks plaintive logic, that is, logic based on feelings, which is exactly the same basis of morality Myers appealed to in his interview.

When I sent Myers an email asking him to clarify what "specific conditions" would make bestiality morally acceptable in his opinion, he declined to address my email and my second article on the subject. There is really only one likely scenario in which it seems Myers would accept bestiality, also known as zoophilia, and that is if it is apparent that the animal is not being harmed and if it is demonstrating some kind of approval, enjoyment or "consent" in the act. The problem for Myers here is quite simple. If nothing must be held sacred, then why should bestiality be considered acceptable only under certain conditions and not always? Why should animal rights be an issue if animal rights are not sacred? These are logical contradictions he needs to address. What is happening here is that Myers is revealing in his quote that he does in fact believe that some boundaries must be held sacred.[28]

PZ Myers' daughter Skatje Myers' comments on bestiality

See also: Atheism and bestiality and Skeptic Skatje Myers' comments on bestiality

Skeptic Skatje Myers, the daughter of evolutionist and atheist PZ Myers describes herself as "atheist, agnostic, rationalist, complicated vegetarian (sans dairy and eggs mostly, avec dumpster diving, by-products, and ethical sources), existential and moral nihilist, social democrat”.[30]

On January 2, 2008 Christian apologist Vox Day wrote in an article entitled Atheist Dad of the Year:

If I were ever to have attacked atheism by arguing that on the rare occasions when atheists manage to successfully reproduce, their children would likely grow up possessing beliefs that are utterly immoral by Western moral norms and abhorrent to the average individual, many people would howl that I was unfairly engaging in baseless conjecture, regardless of the logic presented.

So, it's more than a little amusing to see PZ Myers angrily defending his daughter's public argument against anti-bestiality laws. Now, it's certainly the girl's right to advocate on behalf of whatever legal cause she feels is important to her, but this particular choice of subject really doesn't provide the most convincing evidence against the oft-repeated charge that atheists are hopelessly immoral. And if there's nothing rationally objectionable about the practice, then from whence comes this defensive paternal outrage?

The ironic truth is that Miss Myers is absolutely correct; once the basic concept of Natural Law is abandoned, there is no rational basis for banning anything from necrophilia to cannibalism other than a vague sense of "ickiness" inherited from preceding generations possessed of a more conventional morality.[31]

Skatje Myers, the daughter of atheist PZ Myers, wrote:

Sexual relationships between humans and animals come as such a shock to people, but it doesn’t to me. There can be very deep, meaningful relationships between humans and their pets...

That said, I remind you that my position isn’t based on my own personal wants. I just don’t see any reason to ban it other than the same reason things like homosexuality and sodomy were banned: it’s icky. I think it’s bad practice to put social taboos into legislature when no actual logical argument can be made against it.[32][33]

See also:

Skatje Myers on morality

On August 18, 2011, Skatje Myers wrote:

I’m a moral nihilist. I have no reason to believe that morality is anything other than preferences.

I have those preferences, of course — essentially it’s just intuitional leanings. Any need or desire to follow those leanings is purely for my own enjoyment. I decide what is right and wrong based on what I feel is right and wrong, and I follow them only because of a self-created obligation to myself. I demand that others follow the same “rules” I have for myself, because I want them to. It makes the world the way I want it to be.

The way I see it, every other system of morality is based on unjustifiable claims too, so why follow someone else’s invented ideas of right and wrong?[34]

PZ Myers and militant atheism

PZ Myers is a militant atheist who has openly advocated the elimination of religion, likening it to illiteracy.[35] His language is extremely militant at times, and laced with expletives. In a diatribe in which he described those who believe in the Bible as "lunatics" and "bigots," Myers said:

I say, screw the polite words and careful rhetoric. It's time for scientists to break out the steel-toed boots and brass knuckles, and get out there and hammer on the lunatics and idiots.[36]

PZ Myers frequently rants against religion, religious people, and religious institutions (e.g. churches) on his blog. Myers has called evangelical Christianity "a blight upon the earth,"[37] religious people "ignorant, deluded, wicked, foolish, or oppressed victims of obsolete mythologies,"[38] and considers every church to be a "parasitic institution that contributes nothing to the tax base and encourages further ignorance in the population."[39] Myers has yet to offer scholarly work on the subject of atheism[40] (for example, PZ Myers has yet to offer scholarly works on the subjects of atheism and mass murder and atheism and uncharitableness). In addition, given Myers' diatribes that religious people are allegedly ignorant and deluded, it is quite ironic that Myers has yet to offer any compelling atheist apologetic material rebutting the studies that indicate the irreligious are generally more superstitious than evangelical Christians.

Militant atheism and intellectual slothfulness of PZ Myers

See also: Irreligion and superstition and Militant atheism and intellectual slothfulness of PZ Myers

The Christian apologetic website True Free Thinker declares concerning the intellectual slothfulness of PZ Myers:

That PZ Myers is emotively vociferous is evident to anyone who reads, well, virtually anything that he has ever written on any subject at all.

It is likewise evident that he is intellectually mute. How so? Where are his scholarly works on the truth of atheism? He has produced none.

He merely presupposes God’s non-existence without evidence, see:

ITS NAME IS DOOM — PZ Myers’ A Priori Presuppositional Presumption of Atheism

PZ Myers is Refreshingly Honest: Doom, Gloom and a Positive Affirmation of God’s Non-Existence to Boot!

PZ Myers – Contra Mitch Daniels and Pro Positive Affirmation of God’s Non-Existence, part 1 of 2

PZ Myers’ Dogmatheism Catechism

Etc., etc., etc.....

Where then are his proofs of atheism and disproof of theism? None exist but merely emotive besmirchments of straw-men and straw-gods.

His lack of scholarship and intellectual rigor in these areas, as well as the truth of my statements above, may be demonstrated in the following examples (which are a mere few of many).

PZ Myers dismisses Vox Day’s book The Irrational Atheist: Dissecting the Unholy Trinity of Dawkins, Harris, and Hitchens while admitting to only having read a few chapters.

Dr. Stephen Meyer published an article favoring intelligent design in a peer reviewed science journal which had traditionally only published material advocating the evolutionary position.[41]

Yet, he refuses to debate Vox Day on the existence of God, or evolution for that matter (Myers being a professor of biology) based on dismissing a book he barely read (yes, it is merely a lame excuse which he peppered with a barrage of emotive ad hominems) — see Speaking of Assiduous Absconders…Yet Again, Vox Day Challenges PZ Myers to Debate.

PZ Myers also dismissed Stephen Meyer’s book Signature in the Cell: DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design referring to it as a “stinker,” “drivel” and “Discovery Institute Bulldung” whilst stating that, “Stephen Meyer lies.” Yet, he stated all of this, and more, whilst stating, “I suppose I’ll have to read that 600 page pile of slop sometime…”....This fact alone shows that he needs to read it, as Intelligent Design proponents are constantly begging their opponents to stop mischaracterizing Intelligent Design theory as holding to something to the likes of it’s so complex, it must have been . . . designed!

PZ Myers also refused to debate anyone from Creation Ministries International (CMI) even while he was in Australia for the preaching-to-the-choir-back-patting Global Atheist Convention - The Rise of Atheism – the “biggest ever atheist event in Australia’s history”...

Clearly, PZ Myers is popular because he scratches where many atheists itch: atheism is an emotional rejection of God very, very thinly veneered in a facade of scientific and intellectual respectability. Thus, PZ Myers plays upon and stokes the fires of emotion yet, he has not, is not and who knows if he ever will engage the intellect.[40]

Refusal to debate at atheist global conference and brief radio debate

See also: Richard Dawkins' public refusal to debate creationists

In 2010, the worldwide atheist community was challenged to a debate by Creation Ministries International as prominent atheists were speaking at a 2010 global atheist convention in Australia.[42] Richard Dawkins, PZ Myers and other prominent atheists refused to debate Creation Ministries International.[42] Generally speaking, creation scientists tend to win the creation vs. evolution debates.

The website True Free Thinker declared concerning the refusal of Richard Dawkins, PZ Myers and other prominent atheists to debate the creation scientists and other staff at Creation Ministries International:

In keeping with his constant attention getting shenanigans and his equally constant absconding from debating apt challengers via a barrage of illogical and excuses, the moniker of cowardly clown fits Richard Dawkins more than ever (see Send in the Clowns – Richard Dawkins Obliges).

Enter Jonathan Sarfati (PhD in chemistry),senior scientist at Creation Ministries International, who recently published the book “The Greatest Hoax on Earth? Refuting Dawkins on Evolution.” Interestingly, Jonathan Sarfati sought to publish the book by the time that the 2010 Global Atheist Convention—billed as “The Rise of Atheism”—of March 12-14 at the Melbourne Convention and Exhibition Center in Australia.

The most intelligent, well informed and vociferous atheists in the world, including Richard Dawkins, Dan Barker, PZ Myers, et al, were challenged to debate while their worldwide choir was gathered in one place and yet, one by one they each found excuses to cower from debate even whilst proclaiming to their adherents the intellectual superiority of atheism.[42]

In January 2008, Myers participated in a brief radio debate with Discovery Institute fellow Geoffrey Simmons on Minneapolis/St. Paul radio station KKMS.[43]

PZ Myers refusal to debate Vox Day

See also: Atheism and cowardice and Atheism and debate

On September 4, 2011, Christian apologist Vox Day wrote concerning PZ Myers:

I have heard from numerous atheists who find his intellectual cowardice to be more than a little troubling given his usual tendency to create conflict rather than to avoid it. And he has handed an out to every single individual he ever hopes to challenge in the future. Why should they debate a nobody like him, a clown who isn't even a bigshot in his own field?

As for the PZ Myers Memorial Debate, we are still in search of an atheist to champion the argument that the logic and evidence for the nonexistence of gods is stronger than the logic and evidence for the existence of gods. It is certainly informative to see how many atheists do not appear to believe they are able to effectively make this case; in light of this, many Christians may find this to be a useful tactical approach when confronted by aggressive atheists in the future. This tends to confirm my previous observations that while atheists like to challenge the beliefs of others, they are very ill-prepared, and in many cases downright unwilling, to defend their own. So, if you want to shut them up, simply go on the attack. They'll run away with alacrity.[44]

On August 28, 2011, Vox Day declared concerning Myers:

What you clearly do not understand is that, by his own admission, PZ relies heavily upon emotional arguments rather than logical ones when he cannot simply appeal to an established scientific consensus. "I'll also cop to the obvious fact that, knowing that reason will not get through their skills, I'm happy to use emotional arguments as well. Passion is persuasive." His tendency to rely upon emotional rhetoric and passion rather than reason is precisely why he is afraid to debate people who rely primarily upon logic, because his ability to present reason-based arguments is relatively low. His ability to utilize reason is simply not equal to the skill of others who make use of it more effectively. PZ is without question an effective preacher to the godless choir of science fetishists, but he is remarkably unskilled at presenting convincing arguments, let alone conclusive ones, to those who do not already agree with him. Unlike you, he knows he is not an effective evangelist.[45]

PZ Myers' blog audience

See also: and Atheism and the internet

In 2010, the Christian apologetics website True Free Thinker wrote:

Scienceblogger Chad Orzel described the commentators on PZ Myers ' Scienceblogs.com site Pharyngula, and other Scienceblogs.com commentators, as "screechy monkeys."[46]

A somewhat similar report was made concerning the audience of Richard Dawkins's web community. In February of 2010, the news organization The Telegraph reported that the atheist and evolutionist Richard Dawkins was embroiled "in a bitter online battle over plans to rid his popular internet forum for atheists of foul language, insults and 'frivolous gossip'."[47] In addition, Richard Dawkins has a reputation for being abrasive.

PZ Myers' commentary concerning atheist meetings

PZ Myers recently commented that atheist meetings tend to be significantly more attended by males.[48] Mr. Myers commentary concerning atheist meetings is not surprising given that survey data and website tracking data of prominent atheist websites indicate that in the Western World, atheism appears to be significantly less appealing to women.

PZ Myers' blog posts often lack substance

PZ Myers,

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See also: Atheism and the internet and Irreligion and superstition and PZ Myers' blog post and quality problems

In 2010, the Christian apologetic website True Free Thinker declared:

Just a few years ago PZ Myers fellow Sciencebloggers were complaining about his general lack of substance and about his cult of personality amen chorus of adherents whom were dubbed the screechy monkeys. PZ Myers should be thankful that Scienceblogs is not about science blogs and does not demand science on its Scienceblogs or else 99.9% of all posts on his pseudo-science blog would have to be deleted or, would have never been posted in the first place.

Now it is PZ Myers who is complaining about his fellow Sciencebloggers as he states that Scienceblogs has been facing a steady erosion of talent. The key question is What sort of talent? Talented at doing what?

If he references the talent to elucidate matters scientific then he is quite lacking himself.

If he refers to peppering virtually every post with ad hominems, mythunderstandings, promulgating of prejudice and positively affirming Gods non-existence without evidence then he is the pseudo-science blogger par excellence.[49]

Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed

See also: Irreligion and superstition

Myers appeared in the film Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. In the film, Myers compared religion to knitting and said it should be nothing more than "something fun that people get together and do on the weekend and really doesn't affect their life as much as it has been so far."[50] Up to and after the release of the film, PZ Myers viciously attacked the film and its makers many times and engaged in bizarre behavior. Two of the most notable incidents involved his failed attempt to gate-crash a showing of the film at the Mall of America[51] and his crashing and disruption (including plugging himself) of a conference call held by Expelled's producers after calling in early (likely to eavesdrop) and overhearing and then dishonestly using the phone code that allowed two-way communication.[52][53] Most bizarrely, in the latter incident, Myers interruption of the producers' call began with his referring to himself in the third person, probably in an attempt to conceal both his identity and the fact that he used a phone code he was not authorized to use.

During his visit to the Creation Museum, PZ Myers had noticeably greater difficulty than others climbing on and off a dinosaur model due to the fact that he was overweight and out of shape.VIDEO

Creation Museum buffoonery

See also: PZ Myers embarrasses himself at the Creation Museum - satire

In August 2009, Myers led a group of over 300 atheist and agnostic students on a tour of the Creation Museum.[54] During the visit, Myers had noticeably greater difficulty than others climbing on and off a dinosaur model due to the fact that he was overweight and out of shape.VIDEO In addition, the purpose of the dinosaur model is clearly for children to sit on for photographs.[55][56] Myers donned a borrowed cowboy hat and was egged on by the cheers and laughter of the students.[57]

PZ Myers on abortion

The perverse and cruel atheist Marquis de Sade was an early advocate of abortion in the Western World.[58]

See also: PZ Myers and abortion and Atheism and mass murder and Atheism and morality

PZ Myers is not only "pro-choice", but he said he is "even willing to say" that he is pro-abortion.[59]

The website Evolution News and Views wrote:

Myers again, on abortion:

'what's at stake is a mere embryo, so it's no big loss if it's flushed and incinerated, and I don't have any illusions about whether this is deciding the fate of a human life -- it's not. There's no person...'

Myers' ugly assertion -- 'it's no big loss if it's flushed and incinerated...[t]here's no person -- demonstrates the New Atheist moral vacuum. New Atheists insist that there is no objective moral law; morality is nothing more than an evolved adaptation, or what each of us decides, ad nauseam. Yet if there is no objective moral law that transcends the individual will to power, then power, not justice nor mercy nor even love for one's own child, governs human conduct. Atheist morality boils down to this: '... because we can'. That has been the moral code of atheism in power for a century.[59]

In 2011, Myers wrote that when he sees dead baby pictures: "I look at them unflinchingly and see meat."[60]

Christian apologist Mariano Grinbank wrote in response to PZ Myers remarks concerning abortion:

What a tragic figure, what a deprivation of all that is human and humane, what a sad, sick and depraved soul: what a by product of atheism.

Beautiful, healthy, innocent and defenseless human babies who were brutally murdered in unimaginably brutal and inhuman, inhumane, and subhuman manners are to be likened to rats, mice, dogs, and misc amputated body parts. In his reductionist eyes it is all merely temporarily animated meat.[60]

PZ Myers's views are not surprising given the history of atheism in relation to the abortion issue. The Journal of Medical Ethics article declared concerning the atheist and sadist Marquis de Sade:

In 1795 the Marquis de Sade published his La Philosophic dans le boudoir, in which he proposed the use of induced abortion for social reasons and as a means of population control. It is from this time that medical and social acceptance of abortion can be dated, although previously the subject had not been discussed in public in modern times. It is suggested that it was largely due to de Sade's writing that induced abortion received the impetus which resulted in its subsequent spread in western society.[61]

Population control is based on pseudoscience and ill founded economic assumptions.[59]

Communion host incident

On July 8, 2008, PZ Myers posted an entry attacking Roman Catholic beliefs regards Communion. He was reacting to a news story, in which a student at the University of Central Florida described a physical confrontation over his failure to consume a communion wafer.[62][63] After ridiculing some people as "petty, hateful, and stupid," and asserting that "nothing makes them stupider than religion," Myers requested that his readers steal consecrated Communion wafers for him, so that he could desecrate them on camera. This rant predictably resulted in a strongly negative response from Catholics and those who support freedom of religious expression [64]; Myers has since complained about the "hate mail" and "death threats" he has received, comparing the defense of Communion to a "witch hunt." To date, the University of Minnesota has not taken official action against Myers for his inflammatory remarks, other than to remove the link to his blog from his faculty page.[65] PZ Myers followed through with his threat, desecrating a eucharist and tearing out pages of a copy of the Koran and a copy of Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion.[66]

Meanwhile, Myers posted two vitriolic emails he had received and included the email addresses where they supposedly had come from. Predictably, his readers responded with their own threatening and harassing emails even though at the time it was not clear whether or not the email addresses had been spoofed One was allegedly from someone at 1-800-Flowers, though the husband of the user of the address subsequently owned up to sending the e-mail.[67] The account owner was fired by the company. Myers commented on the firing, saying, "She apparently did something stupid, which I don't have sympathy for. I would just rather not see people getting fired over an e-mail message."[68] Myers attempted to save face, claiming that the unsurprising behavior by his readers was not the intent behind his posting of the email addresses, and called for his readers to stop "dunning these people with email, threatening them back, signing them up for spam, or otherwise being a jerk." These pleas fell on deaf ears, while PZ Myers continued to avoid doing the obvious thing in simply removing the email addresses from his blog.[69][70]

Myers and Conservapedia

True to liberal values, Myers has banned all direct references and links to Conservapedia on his blog due to what he claims was "serious problems with spamming" involving Conservapedia members.[71] Of course, no spamming (repeatedly posting the same message) actually occurred, making Myers' accusation a lie. Rather, his banning is an attempt to silence legitimate criticism which he is simply incapable of addressing.

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External Links


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  2. http://content.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/06/atheist-national-geographic-pz-myers/1
  3. Egnor, Michael P.Z. Myers: Darwinists Know What’s Best for Your Children Evolution News December 18, 2007
  4. Will PZ Myers debate Vox Day? And, on the “Question Evolution” campaign
  5. Questions for Evolutionist
  6. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/07/atheism-is-rudderless-and-unseaworthy.html Atheism is rudderless and unseaworthy
  7. FreeThoughtBlogs and PZ Myers
  8. Vox Day on Freethoughtblogs
  9. Thunderf00t, check your email - PZ Myers
  10. Thunderf00t on how to handle misogny in the atheist community
  11. SkepchickCON and the Harassment LOL-icy
  12. Is it ‘Freethoughtblogs’ or ‘Group-think-blogs’?
  13. 14.0 14.1 14.2 14.3 http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/content/41/18/25.1.full
  14. 15.0 15.1 15.2 15.3 http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/brain-and-behavior/articles/2009/08/25/as-waistlines-widen-brains-shrink.html
  15. http://www.flickr.com/photos/reuvenim/4426093513/
  16. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/08/thats_not_a_heart_its_a_flaili.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+scienceblogs%2Fpharyngula+%28Pharyngula%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
  17. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21121834
  18. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/06/the_final_tally_on_the_camp_qu.php
  19. http://www.colorado.edu/philosophy/vstenger/battle.html
  20. http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/dennett06/dennett06_index.html
  21. http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4484
  22. http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/pe/exs190web/exs190history.htm
  23. http://www.evolutionnews.org/2010/11/pz_myers_on_abortion040971.html
  24. MailVox: Who said atheists are fat?.
  25. At least you can see a hint of what you missed
  26. PZ Myers - Global Atheist Convention 2010
  27. 28.0 28.1 Atheist Achilles Heels: Objective Morality and Sacred Life
  28. The “objective morality” gotcha
  29. Skatje Myers on The Separation of Church and State
  30. Atheist Dad of the Year
  31. Skatje Myers, Daughter of atheist PZ Myers - in blog comments section of PZ Myers' blog post
  32. RSS feed - Lacrimae Rerum,blog of Skatje Myers, blog article - Zoophilia Oct 2, 2007
  33. Morality by Skaje Myers
  34. http://www.atheistrev.com/2008/03/pz-myers-on-eliminating-religion.html
  35. http://web.archive.org/web/20070420142719/http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/comments/perspective/
  36. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/03/left_or_right_religion_and_pol.php/
  37. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/07/im_surrounded.php
  38. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/07/how_do_you_save_small_town_cha.php
  39. 40.0 40.1 http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/pz-myers-emotively-vociferous-intellectually-mute
  40. http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?command=download&id=1489
  41. 42.0 42.1 42.2 http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/richard-dawkins-cowardly-clown
  42. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk5Y3VoBeVQ
  43. Running, running by Vox Day
  44. Can one dodge a dodger?
  45. http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/pz-myers-and-pavlovs-monkeys
  46. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/7322177/Richard-Dawkins-in-bitter-web-censorship-row-with-fellow-atheists.html
  47. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/06/the_woman_problem.php
  48. http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/pz-myers-contra-scienceblogs
  49. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHiZjOH1NmQ
  50. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/21/science/21expelledw.html
  51. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYAblaZmogA
  52. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/03/i_always_aim_to_misbehave.php
  53. "Creation Museum: Is This How World Began?" (ABC News)
  54. http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/aroundtheworld/2009/08/16/children-and-the-creation-museum/
  55. "A firebrand visits Creation Museum" (Minneapolis Star-Tribune)
  56. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQQl2TMrgbM
  57. http://jme.bmj.com/content/6/1/7.abstract
  58. 59.0 59.1 59.2 http://www.evolutionnews.org/2010/11/pz_myers_on_abortion040971.html
  59. 60.0 60.1 http://www.examiner.com/christian-apologetics-in-albuquerque/pz-myers-best-reason-for-rejecting-atheism-murdered-babies-are-just-meat
  60. http://jme.bmj.com/content/6/1/7.abstract
  61. 'Body Of Christ' Snatched From Church, Held Hostage By UCF Student, July 5, 2008[1]
  62. 'Body Of Christ" Returned To Church After Student Receives Email Threats, July 7, 2008[2]
  63. http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1459
  64. http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1460
  65. http://discoverthefaith.com/2008/07/26/update-on-professor-myers-desecration-of-eucharist/
  66. http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/071608-woman-fired-over-death-threat.html
  67. http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/071608-woman-fired-over-death-threat.html?page=2)
  68. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/stop_it_now_please.php
  69. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/mail_dump.php
  70. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/10/conservapdia_has_a_new_project.php