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[[Elevatorgate]] is a term commonly used to describe a scandal involving [[Atheism|atheist]] [[Richard Dawkins]]' inappropriate comments made to fellow atheist [[Rebecca Watson]]. In July of 2011, Richard Dawkins was widely criticized within the atheist community and in various press outlets for his insensitive comments made to atheist Rebecca Watson about an incident which occurred in an elevator.<ref>
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[[Elevatorgate]] is a term commonly used to describe a scandal involving [[New Atheism|New Atheist]] [[Richard Dawkins]]' inappropriate comments made to atheist [[Rebecca Watson]]. In July 2011, Richard Dawkins was widely criticized within the atheist community and in various press outlets for his insensitive comments made to Rebecca Watson about an incident which occurred in an elevator.<ref>
 
*[http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2011/07/08/atheist_flirting Richard Dawkins: Skeptic of women? - Salon, July 8, 2011]
 
*[http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2011/07/08/atheist_flirting Richard Dawkins: Skeptic of women? - Salon, July 8, 2011]
 
*[http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/07/richard-dawkins-chewing-gum Sharing a lift with Richard Dawkins by David Allen Green - New Stateman - 06 July 2011]
 
*[http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/07/richard-dawkins-chewing-gum Sharing a lift with Richard Dawkins by David Allen Green - New Stateman - 06 July 2011]
 
*[http://gawker.com/5818993/richard-dawkins-torn-limb-from-limbby-atheists Richard Dawkins Torn Limb From Limb—By Atheists - Gawker]
 
*[http://gawker.com/5818993/richard-dawkins-torn-limb-from-limbby-atheists Richard Dawkins Torn Limb From Limb—By Atheists - Gawker]
*[http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-09-15/atheist-sexism-women/50416454/1 Atheists address sexism issues - USA Today]</ref>  Specifically, Watson was propositioned after an atheist event in an elevator by a man who apparently was a fellow atheist during the early hours of the morning and she was upset about the incident.
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*[http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-09-15/atheist-sexism-women/50416454/1 Atheists address sexism issues - USA Today]
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*[http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/jul/24/richard-dawkins-women-chilly-climate Richard Dawkins, check the evidence on the 'chilly climate' for women] by Emily Band, ''The Guardian'', July 24, 2011
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*[http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/07/05/richard-dawkins-and-male-privilege/#.VYgS0LZmLUA Richard Dawkins and male privilege] By Phil Plait, ''Discover Magazine'', July 5, 2011 10:30 am
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*[http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/09/is-richard-dawkins-destroying-his-reputation Is Richard Dawkins destroying his reputation?] by Sophie Elmhirst, ''The Guardian'', June 9, 2015
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Below are the comments atheist Richard Dawkins directed towards fellow atheist Rebecca Watson which sparked the Elevatorgate scandal:
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Specifically,  Watson was propositioned after an [[Atheist conferences|atheist conference]] in an elevator by a man who apparently was a fellow [[Atheism|atheist]] during the early hours of the morning and she was upset about the incident.
== Richard Dawkins initial Elevatorgate comments - Dear Muslima letter ==
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Below are the comments Richard Dawkins directed towards Rebecca Watson which sparked the Elevatorgate scandal:
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== Richard Dawkins initial Elevatorgate comments - Dear Muslima letter ==
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[[Image:2402173645 c8e6168fe7.jpg|alt=Richard Dawkins|thumbnail|175px|left|Richard Dawkins]]
 
''See also:'' [[Richard Dawkins quotes]]
 
''See also:'' [[Richard Dawkins quotes]]
  
 
Richard Dawkins initial Elevatorgate comment at [[PZ Myers]] blog [[Pharyngula (blog)|Pharyngula]] on July 2, 2011:
 
Richard Dawkins initial Elevatorgate comment at [[PZ Myers]] blog [[Pharyngula (blog)|Pharyngula]] on July 2, 2011:
{{cquote|Dear [[Muslim|Muslima]],
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Stop whining, will you. Yes, yes, I know you had your genitals mutilated with a razor blade, and . . . yawn . . . don't tell me yet again, I know you aren't allowed to drive a car, and you can't leave the house without a male relative, and your husband is allowed to beat you, and you'll be stoned to death if you commit adultery. But stop whining, will you. Think of the suffering your poor American sisters have to put up with.
 
Stop whining, will you. Yes, yes, I know you had your genitals mutilated with a razor blade, and . . . yawn . . . don't tell me yet again, I know you aren't allowed to drive a car, and you can't leave the house without a male relative, and your husband is allowed to beat you, and you'll be stoned to death if you commit adultery. But stop whining, will you. Think of the suffering your poor American sisters have to put up with.
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And you, Muslima, think you have [[misogyny]] to complain about! For goodness sake grow up, or at least grow a thicker skin.
 
And you, Muslima, think you have [[misogyny]] to complain about! For goodness sake grow up, or at least grow a thicker skin.
  
Richard<ref>[http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/07/always_name_names.php Richard Dawkins comments directed at Rebecca Watkins] posted at [[PZ Myers]] blog [[Pharyngula (blog|Pharyngula]</ref><ref>[http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/07/richard-dawkins-chewing-gum Sharing a lift with Richard Dawkins by David Allen Green - New Statesman - 06 July 2011]</ref>}}
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Richard<ref>[http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/07/always_name_names.php Richard Dawkins comments directed at Rebecca Watkins] posted at [[PZ Myers]] blog [[Pharyngula (blog|Pharyngula]]</ref><ref>[http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/07/richard-dawkins-chewing-gum Sharing a lift with Richard Dawkins by David Allen Green - New Statesman - 06 July 2011]</ref>}}
  
 
== Excerpt of David Allen Green's commentary on Richard Dawkins initial Elevatorgate comments ==
 
== Excerpt of David Allen Green's commentary on Richard Dawkins initial Elevatorgate comments ==
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Was it even a fair point? Of course it was not. Just because there is severe misogyny in one context doesn't remove the need to deal rationally and helpfully with its lesser manifestation in other contexts.<ref>[http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/07/richard-dawkins-chewing-gum Sharing a lift with Richard Dawkins by David Allen Green - New Statesman - 06 July 2011]</ref>}}
 
Was it even a fair point? Of course it was not. Just because there is severe misogyny in one context doesn't remove the need to deal rationally and helpfully with its lesser manifestation in other contexts.<ref>[http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/07/richard-dawkins-chewing-gum Sharing a lift with Richard Dawkins by David Allen Green - New Statesman - 06 July 2011]</ref>}}
  
== Other press outlet stories ==
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== Other news stories - Chronological order ==
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''See also:'' [[Elevatorgate news stories]]
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*[http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/07/05/richard-dawkins-and-male-privilege/#.VYgS0LZmLUA Richard Dawkins and male privilege] By Phil Plait, ''Discover Magazine'', July 5, 2011 10:30 am
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*[http://www.thewire.com/national/2011/07/richard-dawkins-draws-feminist-wrath-over-sexual-harassment-comments/39637/ Richard Dawkins Gets into a Comments War with Feminists] by Caitlin Dickson,'' The Wire'', July 6, 2011
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*[http://gawker.com/5818993/richard-dawkins-torn-limb-from-limbby-atheists Richard Dawkins Torn Limb From Limb—By Atheists]  by Remy Stern, ''Gawker'', July 7, 2011
  
 
* [http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2011/07/08/atheist_flirting Richard Dawkins: Skeptic of women?] - ''Salon'', July 8, 2011
 
* [http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2011/07/08/atheist_flirting Richard Dawkins: Skeptic of women?] - ''Salon'', July 8, 2011
  
*[http://gawker.com/5818993/richard-dawkins-torn-limb-from-limbby-atheists Richard Dawkins Torn Limb From Limb—By Atheists] - ''Gawker''
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*[http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/jul/24/richard-dawkins-women-chilly-climate Richard Dawkins, check the evidence on the 'chilly climate' for women] by Emily Band, ''The Guardian'', July 24, 2011
  
*[http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-09-15/atheist-sexism-women/50416454/1 Atheists address sexism issues] - USA Today, 9/15/2011
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*[http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-09-15/atheist-sexism-women/50416454/1 Atheists address sexism issues] - USA Today, September 15, 2011
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=== Rebecca Watson's article appearing in a news outlet ===
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*[http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/10/sexism_in_the_skeptic_community_i_spoke_out_then_came_the_rape_threats.html It Stands to Reason, Skeptics Can Be Sexist Too] by Rebecca Watson, ''Slate'', October 2012
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=== Subsequent articles mentioning Elevatorgate incident ===
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*[http://www.religionnews.com/2014/08/07/richard-dawkins/ Richard Dawkins: Atheism’s asset or liability?] by Kimberly Winston, ''Religion News Service'',  August 7, 2014
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*[http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/09/is-richard-dawkins-destroying-his-reputation Is Richard Dawkins destroying his reputation?] by Sophie Elmhirst, ''The Guardian'', June 9, 2015
  
 
== Richard Dawkins explanation of his Elevatorgate comments ==
 
== Richard Dawkins explanation of his Elevatorgate comments ==
 
[[File:David-Allen-Green.jpg|thumbnail|200px|Fellow [[Philosophical skepticism|skeptic]] [[David Allen Green]] wrote: "Can Richard Dawkins still credibly pose as a champion of rational thinking and an evidence-based approach? In my opinion, he certainly cannot, at least not in the way he did before."<ref>[http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/07/richard-dawkins-chewing-gum Sharing a lift with Richard Dawkins by David Allen Green - New Stateman - 06 July 2011]</ref>  
 
[[File:David-Allen-Green.jpg|thumbnail|200px|Fellow [[Philosophical skepticism|skeptic]] [[David Allen Green]] wrote: "Can Richard Dawkins still credibly pose as a champion of rational thinking and an evidence-based approach? In my opinion, he certainly cannot, at least not in the way he did before."<ref>[http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/07/richard-dawkins-chewing-gum Sharing a lift with Richard Dawkins by David Allen Green - New Stateman - 06 July 2011]</ref>  
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<small>(photo obtained from [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:DavidAllenGreen.jpg Wikimedia commons], see: [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/deed.en license agreement])</small>]]
 
When someone posted this comment to Richard Dawkins at [[PZ Myers]] blog [[Pharyngula (blog)|Pharyngula]] on July 2, 2011:
 
When someone posted this comment to Richard Dawkins at [[PZ Myers]] blog [[Pharyngula (blog)|Pharyngula]] on July 2, 2011:
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Richard<ref>[http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/07/oh_no_not_againonce_more_unto.php#comment-4309418 Oh, no, not again…once more unto the breach]</ref>}}
 
Richard<ref>[http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/07/oh_no_not_againonce_more_unto.php#comment-4309418 Oh, no, not again…once more unto the breach]</ref>}}
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== Dawkins apologizes three years later for Elevatorgate incident ==
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On August 6, 2014, three years after Elevatorgate, without mentioning Rebecca Watson's name, Richard Dawkins issued a one sentence apology for his Elevatorgate comments.  He posted the apology near the bottom of one of his blog posts.<ref>[https://richarddawkins.net/2014/08/who-is-belittling-what/ Who is “belittling” what?] by Richard Dawkins</ref> In response, Rebecca Watson wrote in Twitter post: "Richard Dawkins did the blog-equivalent of coughing into his hand while mumbling "sorry" to me. Eh I'll take it."<ref>[https://twitter.com/rebeccawatson/status/497087309805027328 Rebecca Watson's Twitter post about Dawkins' apology]</ref>
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== Dawkins stands by Elevatorgate remarks. Says Elevatorgate incident was rather trivial ==
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On November 18, 2014, Richard Dawkins indicated that: he stands by his recent remarks about women/men relations, he feels muzzled by "thought police" and that [[Rebecca Watson]]'s experience in the elevator was "rather trivial" compared to events some Muslim women experience.<ref>[http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/richard-dawkins-stands-by-remarks-on-sexism-pedophilia-down-syndrome/2014/11/18/a2915cd8-6f64-11e4-a2c2-478179fd0489_story.html Richard Dawkins stands by remarks on sexism, pedophilia, Down syndrome], by Kimberly Winston | Religion News Service November 18, 2014</ref>
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Specifically, the ''Washington Post'' reported on November 18, 2014:
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{{cquote|“I don’t take back anything that I’ve said,” Dawkins said from a shady spot in the leafy backyard of one of his Bay Area supporters. “I would not say it again, however, because I am now accustomed to being misunderstood and so I will . “
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He trailed off momentarily, gazing at his hands resting on a patio table.
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“I feel muzzled, and a lot of other people do as well,” he continued. “There is a climate of bullying, a climate of intransigent thought police which is highly influential in the sense that it suppresses people like me.”
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Recent criticism of Dawkins has come from women, many of them within the [[atheist movement]], which has long drawn more men to its ranks. His online remarks, some women say, contribute to a climate they see as unwelcoming to female atheists...
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“I concentrate my attention on that menace and I confess I occasionally get a little impatient with American women who complain of being inappropriately touched by the water cooler or invited for coffee or something which I think is, by comparison, relatively trivial,” he said.<ref>[http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/richard-dawkins-stands-by-remarks-on-sexism-pedophilia-down-syndrome/2014/11/18/a2915cd8-6f64-11e4-a2c2-478179fd0489_story.html Richard Dawkins stands by remarks on sexism, pedophilia, Down syndrome], by Kimberly Winston | Religion News Service November 18, 2014 and syndicated to the ''Washington Post''</ref>}}
  
 
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*[[Atheism and marriageability]]
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Elevatorgate is a term commonly used to describe a scandal involving New Atheist Richard Dawkins' inappropriate comments made to atheist Rebecca Watson. In July 2011, Richard Dawkins was widely criticized within the atheist community and in various press outlets for his insensitive comments made to Rebecca Watson about an incident which occurred in an elevator.[1]

Specifically, Watson was propositioned after an atheist conference in an elevator by a man who apparently was a fellow atheist during the early hours of the morning and she was upset about the incident.

Below are the comments Richard Dawkins directed towards Rebecca Watson which sparked the Elevatorgate scandal:

Richard Dawkins initial Elevatorgate comments - Dear Muslima letter

Richard Dawkins
Richard Dawkins

See also: Richard Dawkins quotes

Richard Dawkins initial Elevatorgate comment at PZ Myers blog Pharyngula on July 2, 2011:

Dear Muslima,

Stop whining, will you. Yes, yes, I know you had your genitals mutilated with a razor blade, and . . . yawn . . . don't tell me yet again, I know you aren't allowed to drive a car, and you can't leave the house without a male relative, and your husband is allowed to beat you, and you'll be stoned to death if you commit adultery. But stop whining, will you. Think of the suffering your poor American sisters have to put up with.

Only this week I heard of one, she calls herself Skep"chick", and do you know what happened to her? A man in a hotel elevator invited her back to his room for coffee. I am not exaggerating. He really did. He invited her back to his room for coffee. Of course she said no, and of course he didn't lay a finger on her, but even so . . .

And you, Muslima, think you have misogyny to complain about! For goodness sake grow up, or at least grow a thicker skin.

Richard[2][3]

Excerpt of David Allen Green's commentary on Richard Dawkins initial Elevatorgate comments

The New Statesman reporter and fellow skeptic David Allen Green wrote concerning Richard Dawkins initial Elevatorgate comment:

One of many problems here is that Rebecca didn't use her video to downplay the plight of Muslim women from the perspective of an American woman. In fact, she made no connection at all. The connection seems only to have occurred in the mind of Richard Dawkins.

Was it even a fair point? Of course it was not. Just because there is severe misogyny in one context doesn't remove the need to deal rationally and helpfully with its lesser manifestation in other contexts.[4]

Other news stories - Chronological order

See also: Elevatorgate news stories

Rebecca Watson's article appearing in a news outlet

Subsequent articles mentioning Elevatorgate incident

Richard Dawkins explanation of his Elevatorgate comments

Fellow skeptic David Allen Green wrote: "Can Richard Dawkins still credibly pose as a champion of rational thinking and an evidence-based approach? In my opinion, he certainly cannot, at least not in the way he did before."[5] (photo obtained from Wikimedia commons, see: license agreement)

When someone posted this comment to Richard Dawkins at PZ Myers blog Pharyngula on July 2, 2011:

Richard Dawkins:

Did you just make the argument that, since worse things are happening somewhere else, we have no right to try to fix things closer to home?...[6]

Richard Dawkins responded:

No I wasn't making that argument. Here's the argument I was making. The man in the elevator didn't physically touch her, didn't attempt to bar her way out of the elevator, didn't even use foul language at her. He spoke some words to her. Just words. She no doubt replied with words. That was that. Words. Only words, and apparently quite polite words at that.

If she felt his behaviour was creepy, that was her privilege, just as it was the Catholics' privilege to feel offended and hurt when PZ nailed the cracker. PZ didn't physically strike any Catholics. All he did was nail a wafer, and he was absolutely right to do so because the heightened value of the wafer was a fantasy in the minds of the offended Catholics. Similarly, Rebecca's feeling that the man's proposition was 'creepy' was her own interpretation of his behaviour, presumably not his. She was probably offended to about the same extent as I am offended if a man gets into an elevator with me chewing gum. But he does me no physical damage and I simply grin and bear it until either I or he gets out of the elevator. It would be different if he physically attacked me.

Muslim women suffer physically from misogyny, their lives are substantially damaged by religiously inspired misogyny. Not just words, real deeds, painful, physical deeds, physical privations, legally sanctioned demeanings. The equivalent would be if PZ had nailed not a cracker but a Catholic.

Then they'd have had good reason to complain.

Richard[7][8]

Excerpt of David Allen Green's commentary on Dawkins explanation

David Allen Green wrote:

Explanations often can make things worse, and so it did in this case. As Phil Plait correctly states, there is no natural meaning to this other than the fact that Dawkins is comparing the discomfort of a woman propositioned in a lift with him sharing a lift with a man chewing gum.

This is all strange stuff indeed from a man professing to be a promoter of rational thinking. He is making connections which do not exist and positing analogies which do not make any sense. From a person with his supposed intellectual reputation, this is surely a disgrace. This is more what one would expect from Richard Littlejohn than Richard Dawkins.

But it seems part of a possible trend. Those who merely pose as rationalists and promoters of liberal values are being found out.[9]

Richard Dawkins second explanation of his Elevatorgate scandal comments

On July 3, 2011, Richard Dawkins posted this comment on PZ Myers blog Pharyngula:

Many people seem to think it obvious that my post was wrong and I should apologise. Very few people have bothered to explain exactly why. The nearest approach I have heard goes something like this.

I sarcastically compared Rebecca's plight with that of women in Muslim countries or families dominated by Muslim men. Somebody made the worthwhile point (reiterated here by PZ) that it is no defence of something slightly bad to point to something worse. We should fight all bad things, the slightly bad as well as the very bad. Fair enough. But my point is that the 'slightly bad thing' suffered by Rebecca was not even slightly bad, it was zero bad. A man asked her back to his room for coffee. She said no. End of story.

But not everybody sees it as end of story. OK, let's ask why not? The main reason seems to be that an elevator is a confined space from which there is no escape. This point has been made again and again in this thread, and the other one.

No escape? I am now really puzzled. Here's how you escape from an elevator. You press any one of the buttons conveniently provided. The elevator will obligingly stop at a floor, the door will open and you will no longer be in a confined space but in a well-lit corridor in a crowded hotel in the centre of Dublin.

No, I obviously don't get it. I will gladly apologise if somebody will calmly and politely, without using the word f*** in every sentence, explain to me what it is that I am not getting.

Richard[10]

Dawkins apologizes three years later for Elevatorgate incident

On August 6, 2014, three years after Elevatorgate, without mentioning Rebecca Watson's name, Richard Dawkins issued a one sentence apology for his Elevatorgate comments. He posted the apology near the bottom of one of his blog posts.[11] In response, Rebecca Watson wrote in Twitter post: "Richard Dawkins did the blog-equivalent of coughing into his hand while mumbling "sorry" to me. Eh I'll take it."[12]

Dawkins stands by Elevatorgate remarks. Says Elevatorgate incident was rather trivial

On November 18, 2014, Richard Dawkins indicated that: he stands by his recent remarks about women/men relations, he feels muzzled by "thought police" and that Rebecca Watson's experience in the elevator was "rather trivial" compared to events some Muslim women experience.[13]

Specifically, the Washington Post reported on November 18, 2014:

“I don’t take back anything that I’ve said,” Dawkins said from a shady spot in the leafy backyard of one of his Bay Area supporters. “I would not say it again, however, because I am now accustomed to being misunderstood and so I will . “

He trailed off momentarily, gazing at his hands resting on a patio table.

“I feel muzzled, and a lot of other people do as well,” he continued. “There is a climate of bullying, a climate of intransigent thought police which is highly influential in the sense that it suppresses people like me.”

Recent criticism of Dawkins has come from women, many of them within the atheist movement, which has long drawn more men to its ranks. His online remarks, some women say, contribute to a climate they see as unwelcoming to female atheists...

“I concentrate my attention on that menace and I confess I occasionally get a little impatient with American women who complain of being inappropriately touched by the water cooler or invited for coffee or something which I think is, by comparison, relatively trivial,” he said.[14]

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References

  1. Richard Dawkins comments directed at Rebecca Watkins posted at PZ Myers blog Pharyngula
  2. Sharing a lift with Richard Dawkins by David Allen Green - New Statesman - 06 July 2011
  3. Sharing a lift with Richard Dawkins by David Allen Green - New Statesman - 06 July 2011
  4. Sharing a lift with Richard Dawkins by David Allen Green - New Stateman - 06 July 2011
  5. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/07/always_name_names.php
  6. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/07/always_name_names.php
  7. Sharing a lift with Richard Dawkins by David Allen Green - New Statesman - 06 July 2011
  8. Sharing a lift with Richard Dawkins by David Allen Green - New Statesman - 06 July 2011
  9. Oh, no, not again…once more unto the breach
  10. Who is “belittling” what? by Richard Dawkins
  11. Rebecca Watson's Twitter post about Dawkins' apology
  12. Richard Dawkins stands by remarks on sexism, pedophilia, Down syndrome, by Kimberly Winston | Religion News Service November 18, 2014
  13. Richard Dawkins stands by remarks on sexism, pedophilia, Down syndrome, by Kimberly Winston | Religion News Service November 18, 2014 and syndicated to the Washington Post