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Many establishment Republicans have criticized Trump for his reaction to the Charlottesville violence (even though he clearly criticized hatred and violence and urged all people to come together and view themselves as Americans first), even going so far as to sympathize and speak highly of the [[Antifa]].[http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/16/mccain-romney-rubio-join-republicans-antifa-club/] This should be added somewhere. Also, when Kasich says that there is [http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/08/16/kasich-no-moral-equivalency-kkk-neo-nazis-anybody-else/ "no moral equivalency between the KKK, the neo-Nazis and anybody else"], he forgets [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+3%3A23-24&version=ESV Romans 3:23]. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:09, 17 August 2017 (EDT)
 
Many establishment Republicans have criticized Trump for his reaction to the Charlottesville violence (even though he clearly criticized hatred and violence and urged all people to come together and view themselves as Americans first), even going so far as to sympathize and speak highly of the [[Antifa]].[http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/16/mccain-romney-rubio-join-republicans-antifa-club/] This should be added somewhere. Also, when Kasich says that there is [http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/08/16/kasich-no-moral-equivalency-kkk-neo-nazis-anybody-else/ "no moral equivalency between the KKK, the neo-Nazis and anybody else"], he forgets [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+3%3A23-24&version=ESV Romans 3:23]. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:09, 17 August 2017 (EDT)
 
:Here is a good article in response to peoples' statements equivalating the Antifa with soldiers in World War II who fought the Nazis: [http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/16/delingpole-actually-no-d-day-wasnt-won-by-masked-leftist-thugs/] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:10, 17 August 2017 (EDT)
 
:Here is a good article in response to peoples' statements equivalating the Antifa with soldiers in World War II who fought the Nazis: [http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/16/delingpole-actually-no-d-day-wasnt-won-by-masked-leftist-thugs/] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:10, 17 August 2017 (EDT)
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::It really shows how much sway the media has over the GOP. The GOP whines and pleads to do the talking points that will take them out of the spotlight. Media cries racist and they run away from Trump like children. The president is a part of the same party but the GOP is clearly under the thumb of Democrat news media. Just like the Tea Party before them, the [[Alt-right]] is under attack because the left found a few bad apples...all the rightwing is to blame. It's propaganda and the Democrat party is collapsing before our eyes and wants to take the rest of the country with them.  --Jpatt 10:02, 17 August 2017 (EDT)

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This article is what's called a coatrack article. I'd encourage everyone to participate. If a news item doesn't make the Main Page, hang it here. It's easier to make a daily record than to go back and reconstruct. And there's plenty of daily news items that outrage people to choose from. Thanks All! RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 23:25, 15 June 2017 (EDT)

Nobsie don't you realise we can't link to such a liberal site here?! The Gentlemen at another liberal site wouldn't mind so much perhaps but not here. Vive Liberté! 23:29, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
We've been cutting n pasting out wholesale citations and text from TOW, then wash, rinse, and rehabilitate for decent people and discussion. They've made our lives much easier; all we have to do eliminate the liberal claptrap and insert the appropriate spin. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 23:55, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
No.. do you mean to tell me that you admit to putting spin on articles? *gasp* nobs I thought we were friends how could you? Vive Liberté! 23:59, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
Hey, if it's spin coming from me, it's not spin. It's fact. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 00:17, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
Lol aight nobs. Just remember that your facts aren't always right. Remember our Schadenfreude talk? Vive Liberté! 20:13, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
We're the home of alternative facts to liberal bias. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 20:28, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
Liberal bias doesn't change the meaning of words though.. But let's not start on that again. No need to beat a dead horse. Just messing with you, nobsie. :) Vive Liberté! 20:49, 16 June 2017 (EDT)

An interesting graph published by the Daily Caller [1]--Jpatt 12:16, 16 June 2017 (EDT)

Unfortunately, this article talks about 2016 statistics, but it is still interesting. Left-wing violence is growing dramatically in Europe.[2] --1990'sguy (talk) 14:05, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
Yes, I deliberately made so we can collect incidents worldwide. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 14:09, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
Also, this article does not mention who was responsible, but a right-wing French politician was attacked and left unconcious. --1990'sguy (talk) 14:08, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
Got that in already. Really, that's the story that motivated this article. We need to just routinely collect those items here. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 14:16, 16 June 2017 (EDT)

Here is an interesting story of violence in Germany, caused (at least to an extent) by migrants: [3] The article does not identify the rioters as left-wingers, though, so I will leave this article here to discuss whether it is appropriate to add. --1990'sguy (talk) 00:09, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

I saw this one too elsewhere. This is more of the migrant crisis, but we're getting so many of these lately they can't possibly fit into the migrant crisis article either. Other websites do collect lists of these daily incidents. The only other suggestion may be to start collecting these incidents - if they are unique and interesting enough - in articles like Baden-Wuerttemberg to keep a record, if you choose. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 11:50, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

Another interesting article: [4] Not sure, though, if we should add this. --1990'sguy (talk) 00:06, 15 August 2017 (EDT)

Just read the article. Seems ironic that Antifa called its "protest" in Seattle "Solidarity Against Hate" when all they did was riot, burn the US flag and display their hatred against their own country (thus engaging in exactly what they claim to be against). They're not what anyone would call the brightest bulbs in the chandelier by any means. Northwest (talk) 00:51, 15 August 2017 (EDT)

Vandalism of Senate offices

Hopefully soon, unless someone else adds these (which would be nice), I will add the incidents where the Senate offices of some Senators (I think Heller and Capito) were vandalized because they voted for repealing ObamaCare. These examples should not be left out.

Also, earlier in the year, when conservative congressmen were visiting their constituents, they were met by rowdy crowds who became physical at some points. I remember reading an article discussing these incidents. Hopefully, I or someone else can add this as well. --1990'sguy (talk) 22:15, 12 August 2017 (EDT)

A thought on Charlottesville

Simply speculation on my part at this point, but does it seem coincidental that what recently happened in Charlottesville occurred right after the revelation of the Democrats' IT scandal [5] despite the unsuccessful attempts of the liberal media (acting on their Democrat bosses' behalf) to suppress that story? On that basis, it would appear that the Charlottesville riot was timed precisely to happen following that story breaking, to distract from the Democrats being neck-deep in that scandal - and as such, this smacks of Charlottesville being a Democrat-staged false flag, designed with the intent of being the latest thing with which to falsely scapegoat Donald Trump and conservatives as a whole.

Of course, there are likely other things the Democrats are up to that are coming to light which they don't want attention on, as well as what President Trump is accomplishing successfully in the White House (like making North Korea back down [6]) that the Democrats and their liberal media cheerleaders also don't want attention on, that prompted the staging of the riot last Saturday. Thoughts? Northwest (talk) 02:48, 15 August 2017 (EDT)

The MSM did not have to give these protestors attention. They could have chosen to ignore the protests, and they would have been uneventful. The violence that we saw might not have happened if the media was not there -- people often overreact to get attention. But why would the MSM ever choose to do that? Giving these small protests coverage helps the leftist media narrative that neo-Nazis are taking over the U.S., helped by their biggest friend who now is in the White House. So, yes, I think this is more than a coincidence, even though I, personally, probably wouldn't go so far as to say that the media is doing this to cover up any specific stories. --1990'sguy (talk) 10:09, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
Greg Gutfeld did a good monologue yesterday about this: [7] --1990'sguy (talk) 10:12, 15 August 2017 (EDT)

Establishment GOP becomes friendly towards left-wing extremists

Many establishment Republicans have criticized Trump for his reaction to the Charlottesville violence (even though he clearly criticized hatred and violence and urged all people to come together and view themselves as Americans first), even going so far as to sympathize and speak highly of the Antifa.[8] This should be added somewhere. Also, when Kasich says that there is "no moral equivalency between the KKK, the neo-Nazis and anybody else", he forgets Romans 3:23. --1990'sguy (talk) 00:09, 17 August 2017 (EDT)

Here is a good article in response to peoples' statements equivalating the Antifa with soldiers in World War II who fought the Nazis: [9] --1990'sguy (talk) 00:10, 17 August 2017 (EDT)
It really shows how much sway the media has over the GOP. The GOP whines and pleads to do the talking points that will take them out of the spotlight. Media cries racist and they run away from Trump like children. The president is a part of the same party but the GOP is clearly under the thumb of Democrat news media. Just like the Tea Party before them, the Alt-right is under attack because the left found a few bad apples...all the rightwing is to blame. It's propaganda and the Democrat party is collapsing before our eyes and wants to take the rest of the country with them. --Jpatt 10:02, 17 August 2017 (EDT)