Talk:American Heroism

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Hulk Hogan?

I'm concerned with having Hulk Hogan on a list of American heroes. I don't see anything about him displaying good, conservative, Christian values and one of his nicknames is "Hollywood Hogan" (which inevitably connects him with extremely detrimental, liberal Hollywood values). RSnelik 00:05, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

That is true, but it was only his stage persona which was forced on him by liberals. The man himself was definitely a conservative hero. --CraigF 00:14, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
Do you have examples? RSnelik 00:18, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
Ugh I just did some research and found out the the Hulk backed Barrack Hussein Obama for president. I recall him wearing the American flag with pride before wrestling matches, but I didn't know that he would disgrace it like that. I will remove him immediately thanks for bringing it up. --CraigF 00:21, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
No problem. I think the article is a great idea and contains a strong list of people. I think it'll send a message to the rampant liberals out there about what true heroism is about. RSnelik 00:25, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Women I've added

  • Susan B. Anthony - worked to get women the right to vote; pro-life
  • Clara Barton - founded the American Red Cross
  • Amelia Earhart - she was removed for supporting women's rights - I'm adding her back because her accomplishments in flying outweigh her politics. She's the epitome of a action heroine.
  • Helen Keller - she worked hard for disabled people
  • Sally Ride - first woman astronaut
  • Sojourner Truth - born in New York as a slave; fought for rights for American slaves
  • arriet Tubman - she was removed for "not being American". She was born into slavery in Maryland. I'm adding her back to the list - she helped many slaves escape to freedom along the Underground Railroad.

Tubman and Truth not American?

They were both born in the United States, but removd as "not American." BrentH 20:07, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

They both became American citizens when the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868. --SharonW 21:14, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
Wow. Am I the only one who finds this definition appalling? Sojourner Truth and Harriet Tubman were very much American, in every sense of the word. They were born and spent their lives on the American continent, they became constitutional citizens of the United States, and they fought hard for freedom and justice (though I personally don't see this as specifically "American," I'm sure many at Conservapedia do).--CamilleT 22:21, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Andrew Schlafly on the list.

Mr. Schlafly has done excellent work, that is not in question in this post. That said, it does not really help the credibility of this project to list its founder in the same breath as Washington, Reagan and Armstrong. A first-time visitor would most probably see this as vain and self-aggrandizing. While I appreciate the sentiment in adding his name to the list, I am sure it would be embarrassing to Mr. Schlafly to see his name in this context. I removed his name the other day, but it has been reinserted. Could a senior admin please chime in on this and prevent a potentially embarrassing edit war? Many thanks. MattyD 09:58, 16 September 2012 (EDT)

Louis Armstrong

Came from abject poverty,crucial in the origins of America's greatest art form. A Hero. MattyD 13:29, 16 September 2012 (EDT)

Phillis Wheatley

Christian poet, way ahead of her time, transcended the most dire circumstances with faith. A heroine. MattyD 13:30, 16 September 2012 (EDT)

Robert E. Lee

Traitor, secessionist. Not a hero. MattyD 13:31, 16 September 2012 (EDT)

Agreement coming from a South Carolinian. Biblethumpinjosh