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User:Conservative - you have once again deleted a comment of mine. It was not offensive, nor was it trolling. I request that you please restore it. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 16:22, 29 June 2012 (EDT)
 
User:Conservative - you have once again deleted a comment of mine. It was not offensive, nor was it trolling. I request that you please restore it. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 16:22, 29 June 2012 (EDT)
 
::The brief discussion was pointless and was only going to lead to bickering. I have decided to move on. I will say for the record that I didn't initially create the gallery nor did I add any pictures of new people. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 16:28, 29 June 2012 (EDT)
 
::The brief discussion was pointless and was only going to lead to bickering. I have decided to move on. I will say for the record that I didn't initially create the gallery nor did I add any pictures of new people. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 16:28, 29 June 2012 (EDT)
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:::Do try to remember that you had to delete and oversight our "brief discussion" the next time you want to call someone a coward. And yes, while you didn't initially create ''this'' gallery, you are the only one on this site obsessed with creating all of the "Conservapedia hates fat people" articles - you know the ones where you say fat people are atheists, lesbians, homosexuals, blah, blah, blah. You pretend you're being helpful by providing the links to diets, etc., but the disdainful language surrounding the links trumps them. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 16:55, 29 June 2012 (EDT)
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:::::For the record, I have never said that all overweight people are atheists or lesbians/homosexuals nor have I said that CP hates overweight people.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 17:01, 29 June 2012 (EDT)

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CPalmer, could you assemble our overweight Christian brothers and sisters in a similar gallery? And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? (Matthew_1-9_(Translated)#7:3) Thanks, AugustO 09:10, 20 June 2012 (EDT)

August, a couple of points in response to this:
  1. This isn't intended as a page in its own right, only as an adjunct to Atheism and obesity. It doesn't make sense to list the obese Christians in the absence of a Christianity and obesity page, although Thomas Aquinas would be a good one to start with.
  2. This is intended as satire, so there's no need to be comprehensive or authoritative, only funny and incisive.
  3. There's no mote in my eye in this case, since for all my many failings, I'm not obese (at time of writing). (You don't need to quote Matthew - I am familiar with the passage.)
I don't really plan to spend much more time on this little page, so I hope I've answered your concerns satisfactorily.--CPalmer 09:19, 20 June 2012 (EDT)
Dear CPalmer
  1. I dislike atheism and obesity, I think it's a badly written article on a meritless subject. It isn't much of a satire, neither, it isn't marked as an essay, so I'd expect it to adhere to the standards of an encyclopedia. Sadly, that's not the case. Perhaps the proposed gallery would help to give it some balance?
  2. In my experience, I was just kidding is often used as an lame excuse for ditching responsibility when someone is insulted...
  3. You are not obese? So you are not an atheist? This kind of reasoning is quite unsound...
  4. You created this page, certainly with the intention that someone links to it. It will pop up in Special:Search/gallery, where it certainly doesn't fit in well.
But I suppose you are aware of all the above and you are just having a little fun, no harm done and all that...
AugustO 09:33, 20 June 2012 (EDT)
I agree with you that atheism and obesity could be improved, which is really why I created this page. Given the presence of this neatly organized gallery, I'm hoping a lot of the sections of Atheism and obesity that only exist to contain one picture could be taken out, which will make the article better. Again, I'm not adding anything new here, and I'm not insulting anyone who isn't already being amply insulted.
I believe you've suggested in the past that Atheism and obesity should be deleted entirely. Well, that is not on the cards, so I hope you'd be in favor of alternative action that should at least tidy it up a bit and shorten it.--CPalmer 09:40, 20 June 2012 (EDT)

Gallery of obese Christians

I took a quick look through our images and found the following:

AugustO 11:56, 24 June 2012 (EDT)

I like the inclusion of Santa Claus - most amusing.--CPalmer 09:55, 27 June 2012 (EDT)
I hope you don't mind me adding some as I come across them. Thanks! --SharonW 16:02, 29 June 2012 (EDT)

You won't see Jesus, Moses, Apostle Paul or the Apostle Peter in your list. They pretty much ate a Mosaic diet or Mediterranean diet employing reasonable portions and had sufficient exercise.

Conveniently, there doesn't exist any portraits of these people that were done from life, so you're making an assumption here. --SharonW 15:29, 29 June 2012 (EDT)

Here are some interesting articles on weight loss and maintaining a healthy weight:

My thoughts on this matter agree with this material: Chuck Norris on the topic of obesity

I have met people from various parts of the world and there is far less obesity in the Eastern World than in many parts of the Western World and I think the reason is that they eat better, get more exercise and are often more disciplined. Also, Asian Americans generally lead more healthy lives too than many westerners. I have a feeling that Amy Chua doesn't allow her kid(s) to eat a lot of snacks and watch a lot of television. Conservative 15:31, 29 June 2012 (EDT)

Non sequitur. --SharonW 16:00, 29 June 2012 (EDT)

Richard Dawkins

Im surprised Richard Dawkins wasn;t there. Then again, it makes sense. The entire essay revolves around a fictional premise that atheists are obese in comparison to Christians.brenden 16:04, 29 June 2012 (EDT)

Isn't Richard Dawkins an agnostic? It is rather humorous that a founder of the New Atheism movement was an agnostic. :) Also, didn't 3/5 of the New Atheism movmement's founders have excess weight? See: New Atheism leadership's problem with excess weight. Conservative 16:19, 29 June 2012 (EDT)

Seriously?

User:Conservative - you have once again deleted a comment of mine. It was not offensive, nor was it trolling. I request that you please restore it. --SharonW 16:22, 29 June 2012 (EDT)

The brief discussion was pointless and was only going to lead to bickering. I have decided to move on. I will say for the record that I didn't initially create the gallery nor did I add any pictures of new people. Conservative 16:28, 29 June 2012 (EDT)
Do try to remember that you had to delete and oversight our "brief discussion" the next time you want to call someone a coward. And yes, while you didn't initially create this gallery, you are the only one on this site obsessed with creating all of the "Conservapedia hates fat people" articles - you know the ones where you say fat people are atheists, lesbians, homosexuals, blah, blah, blah. You pretend you're being helpful by providing the links to diets, etc., but the disdainful language surrounding the links trumps them. --SharonW 16:55, 29 June 2012 (EDT)
For the record, I have never said that all overweight people are atheists or lesbians/homosexuals nor have I said that CP hates overweight people.Conservative 17:01, 29 June 2012 (EDT)