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Why Mueller should be fired

I wrote an essay on this subject. PeterKa (talk) 08:04, 5 April 2018 (EDT)

I just added a great stock photo of Mueller colluding with Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych. PeterKa (talk) 19:50, 7 April 2018 (EDT)
Love that photo! Can you upload it here? RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 10:35, 13 April 2018 (EDT)
Done! PeterKa (talk) 17:41, 15 April 2018 (EDT)

Update: Newly leaked Congressional Research Report: Special Counsels, Independent Counsels, and Special Prosecutors: Legal Authority and Limitations on Independent Executive Investigations dated April 13, 2018. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 20:38, 19 April 2018 (EDT)

The dumbest generation

Why do I suspect that these are the same people who believe in Russia collusion and in 14 genders? "A Third Of Millennials Aren’t Sure The Earth Is Round, Survey Finds." This is a survey of 18 to 24 year olds. (BTW, here is Aristotle's original proof that the Earth is round.) Something needs to be done to prevent these idiots from voting! Science fiction writer Robert A. Heinlein once proposed that voters first be required to solve a quadratic. PeterKa (talk) 09:06, 7 April 2018 (EDT)

These are the same kids who think the Constitution is outdated,[1] who support undoing First Amendment freedoms on free speech[2] and religious liberty,[3][4] and want to live under a socialist country.[5][6] --1990'sguy (talk) 10:33, 7 April 2018 (EDT)
Yet another poll found that support for First Amendment freedoms is declining among young people: [7] --1990'sguy (talk) 09:02, 11 April 2018 (EDT)
And their unionized teachers are walking out of classrooms to convince the kids that the their employers - the kids parents - are unfair to workers. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 11:44, 7 April 2018 (EDT)
Well, if those Millennial kids in question really want to live in a socialist or Communist country (like it describes in the last linked article), they should put their money where their mouths are and move to Venezuela, Cuba, China or North Korea, just so they can find out what their beloved socialism/Communism is really like in practice and why the people they mock and ridicule who actually had to live under those systems were eager to get out and flee to America or another democratic Western country. Northwest (talk) 15:22, 7 April 2018 (EDT)
The earth is an oblate spheroid so it is not round. :)Conservative (talk) 17:15, 7 April 2018 (EDT)
Wow that really is surprising. I had heard about a "resurgence" in the number of people thinking the Earth was flat but never thought it was that high. FredericBernard (talk) 10:04, 8 April 2018 (EDT)
I get the feeling like "Flat-Earthism" is mostly a trolling meme. Sure, a few true believers exist, but I doubt there has been a huge increase in people believing the Earth is flat in an age where we have actual photos from space. I really don't trust YouGov polls anyway. People sign up to conduct those polls online for rewards like restaurant gift cards, not exactly academic. --AnchorDown (talk) 21:20, 8 April 2018 (EDT)
The flat earth is a big meme these days: "Flat-Earthers are back: 'It’s almost like the beginning of a new religion'." Youtube is full of warring videos with rounders and flatters going at it. It's former 9/11 Truthers in search of new conspiracies to promote. As recently as 2005, Thomas Friedman could write The World is Flat and not have to worry that anyone would interpret the title literally. PeterKa (talk) 21:12, 9 April 2018 (EDT)

Major conservative victory in Europe

In Hungary, Viktor Orbán, a conservative prime minister who has taken a very strong stance against immigration and other issues (and who even built a border barrier along the country's southern border) won a major victory in his country's elections today.[8][9][10] The polls expected he would win, but few people thought he would outperform his 2014 election result or win a supermajority -- he achieved both. Orbán also ran his campaign exclusively on opposition to immigration and support for preserving Hungarian/European/Christian culture and values. This is great news for European conservatives who want to reform the continent's immigration policies. --1990'sguy (talk) 19:26, 8 April 2018 (EDT)

Please add to MPR

Would someone please add this to MainPageRight? This election victory is a big deal, especially for the Christian-conservative-patriotic movement in the EU. --1990'sguy (talk) 21:03, 8 April 2018 (EDT)

Mueller raids Michael Cohen's office

Now we know why Joseph diGenova and other lawyers turned Trump's business down. They didn't want Mueller to raid their offices' like he raided Michael Cohen's office today. Mueller has no jurisdiction in the Stormy Daniel's case, so this is way outside his mandate. Time to replace Mueller, as I explained earlier. Both Mueller and the FBI, which carried out the raid at Mueller's request, come under Rosenstein's authority. If Trump doesn't feel up to firing anybody, he can at least rebuke Rosenstien, who is very much a beta male. Mueller looks ferocious in his still photos, but he hardly ever speaks in public. We can think of this as a slow motion coup by the Deep State. Not many people understand that Mueller had a sleazy track record before he was named special counsel. Sadly, the administration hasn't done much to let them know. PeterKa (talk) 23:38, 9 April 2018 (EDT)

This is truly disgusting. The Stormy Daniels story is the only thing that came out of the illegal FISA wiretaps (Brennan's "moral turpitude" comment). The diGenova case may he related to a conflict of interest in his wife representing the confidential informant in the Uranium One case. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 00:01, 10 April 2018 (EDT)
If Mueller pulls off this coup, he and his Hillaryista lawyers are the kings of Washington. No lawyer with anything to lose will represent Trump now. There is certainly no position like Mueller's provided for in the Constitution. As in his previous cases at the FBI, he controls the media with leaks and wins his cases without ever having to prove anything in court. Every American has a right to counsel, except the president, apparently.
Anne Coulter has thought this through better than I have: "2d worse thing @realDonaldTrump could do is fire Mueller and make him a martyr. Fire Rosenstein. Fire Marc Short. Fire Nielsen. Let Mueller twist."[11] More words of wisdom: "Mueller is DYING to get fired. Then he'll be a martyr! A hero! Otherwise, he's just a loser who couldn't find any crimes by Trump."[12] Even better than firing anyone, Trump can yell at Rosenstein and call him dirty names. Guys like that can't take the heat. PeterKa (talk) 03:17, 10 April 2018 (EDT)
Actually, diGenova's conflict of interest is more likely related to his wife, Victoria Toensig, representation of Scooter Libby. Now that Libby is pardoned, as time passes, diGenova may be able to join the team. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 22:24, 21 April 2018 (EDT)

Michael Cohen and Cheryl Mills

Now that Michael Cohen's office has been raided, what about Cheryl Mills? She destroyed 30,000 emails for Hillary, but couldn't be questioned by the FBI because of attorney client privilege.[13] Oh, and the arguement that an FBI "taint team" makes it OK to raid a lawyer's office has already been rejected by the courts.[14]
Here is yet another reason to fire Rosenstien. When he was confirmed for his current position, he used a falsified resume to cover up the fact that he was the investigator who cleared Hillary in the 1993 Travelgate episode.[15] PeterKa (talk) 02:53, 12 April 2018 (EDT)

Travelgate looks like a very good starting point to begin a Rod Rosenstein bio. We got enough info spread over the wiki to collect on one page now. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 03:14, 12 April 2018 (EDT)
In context, the reference to Rosensteins interview of Hillary seems to relate more to the Filegate scandal, which as a more serious scandal (national security breaches, political spying, misuse of FBI files for partisan opposition research, etc) than the Travelgate scandal, which was primarily about cronyism. Both scandals involved civil rights violations of government employees. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 17:53, 15 April 2018 (EDT)

The Tragedy of the Commons

There really is no such thing as the "Problem of the commons". Can Problem of the commons be moved to Tragedy of the commons, its proper name? It's always been known under the name "Tragedy of the commons", ever since Garrett Hardin wrote his paper under that title.[16] Progressingamerica (talk) 21:15, 12 April 2018 (EDT)

Good idea! I've moved it, as requested. --David B (TALK) 21:38, 12 April 2018 (EDT)

Noel Francisco, rising star

As the end of the Rosenstein era approaches, we all need to learn more about Solicitor General Noel Francisco, the guy who is next in line at the Department of Justice. His father is Filipino, his mother American. According to this profile, Francisco was a clerk for Justice Antonin Scalia, the conservative's favorite lawyer. He remains a devoted fanboy of the great man. He's also a skeptic of the special counsel as an institution. See also "Noel Francisco: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know." PeterKa (talk) 00:21, 13 April 2018 (EDT)

He's more likely to share the same fate as Judge Bork. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 01:23, 13 April 2018 (EDT)
Francisco is beginning to get noticed in the national media. Oddly enough, the attention is favorable, stressing his constitutionalism, legal experience, and commitment to rule of law. Liberal writers may not realize how far beyond the rule of law Mueller's attack on the president's attorney-client privilege and right to counsel are. PeterKa (talk) 16:41, 15 April 2018 (EDT)

Scooter Libby gets a pardon

Libby may finally get the pardon he deserved a long time ago: "BREAKING. President Trump To Pardon Scooter Libby." Libby was prosecuted by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, who was appointed by James Comey in 2003. The appointment was prompted by a brief news story in the Washington Post which claimed that somebody in the White House had called up five reporters to shop a story about Valerie Plame, supposedly an undercover CIA agent. Robert Novak, said to have been the fifth reporter, had recently published a story about Plame. Despite the millions of taxpayer dollars spent on his investigation, Fitzgerald was unable to confirm any aspect of the original WaPo story. There was never any "five reporters," and no leaker at the White House. Novak talked to Richard Armitage at the State Department and then consulted Who's Who, where he found Plame's allegedly supersecret name. As far as I know, WaPo has never apologized or even tried to explain how such a damaging and inaccurate story could get published. A great deal of press coverage at the time focused on the claim that disclosing Plame's name violated the "Philip Agee law" against revealing the names of undercover CIA agents. Was Plame's name actually a secret of some kind? And if it was a secret, what it doing in Who Who? The CIA never revealed Plame's real status to the court.[17] The CIA was George Tenet's fiefdom at this time. Tenet had been appointed by Bill Clinton. Forced to choose between Clinton and a his own Republican appointees, Bush revealed himself as a Clinton man. PeterKa (talk) 12:15, 13 April 2018 (EDT)

Libby was prosecuted on a process charge unrelated to original investigation, like Mike Flynn was. This looks like John Bolton's work. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 12:30, 13 April 2018 (EDT)
"Don't talk to the police," is what any lawyer would tell you. Why do Republicans keep making this mistake? Faced with this sorry history, Trump says he wants to talk to Mueller. The only thing he should say to Mueller is, "I'm the boss of the Justice Department. The constitution says so. You prosecute who I tell you to prosecute." PeterKa (talk) 21:31, 13 April 2018 (EDT)
The court jailed NYT reporter Judith Miller for 85 days until she agreed to testify against Libby. Libby was convicted of lying to the FBI because what he said conflicted with Miller's testimony. She recanted in 2015 and admitted Libby had been telling the truth all along.[18] PeterKa (talk) 07:52, 14 April 2018 (EDT)

Rosenstein keeps on leakin'

Another day, another fireable offense by Rosenstein. Although his job is hanging by a thread, he can't stop leaking criticism of his boss. Here is NBC: "In those conversations, he has repeated the phrase, "Here I stand," a reference to Martin Luther's famous quote, "Here I stand, I can do no other."[19] Then there is this story: "Michael Cohen Negotiated Million Dollar Payoff For Wealthy GOP Donor Who Impregnated Nude Model." This news appeared in numerous publications simultaneously with none of them indicating what the source was. It sure looks like Rosenstein and Mueller are leaking privileged material acquired in the Cohen raid. So much for the vaunted "taint team." Over the last year, Rosenstein and Mueller have developed a highly efficient leak network. Practice makes perfect. PeterKa (talk) 00:10, 14 April 2018 (EDT)

As Sundance of theconservativetreehouse says, the raid was more "opposition research". RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 13:16, 14 April 2018 (EDT)

How to take down the deep state

Rosenstein is said to be consulting with the Department of Justice’s ethics office on the question of recusing himself from the Russia investigation. That’s all very well and long overdue. But isn’t there someone at the DOJ with a more obvious and better documented conflict of interest? I refer here to Special Counsel Robert Mueller, a longtime ally of James Comey, whose firing triggered the investigation. I was surprised to learn that there is an office at DOJ that not only evaluates conflicts of interest, but has authority over recusals. Sessions couldn’t pass the ethics smell test, but both Mueller and Rosenstein did? This must be one screwed up office.
The ethics office is currently headed by Cynthia K. Shaw. I didn't find any news stories about her, and she has no profile on Wikipedia. All I could find was her pay scale and civil service history. Despite her obscurity, she is a key figure in the drama currently gripping Washington. If I was Trump, I'd have a little heart to heart with her and tell her to recuse both Mueller and Rosenstein. If she doesn’t play ball, her office can get the Michael Cohen treatment. A Special Forces team can be trained for the job. Mueller has established that he can take down the office of the president’s attorney. Trump needs to act decisively before Mueller hits the Oval Office.
The reaction to the Cohen raid in the liberal media is disturbing. They are way past any concerns about the civil liberties or right to counsel. In fact, the prospect of a coup d'etat seems to be making them happy and excited. PeterKa (talk) 06:54, 15 April 2018 (EDT)

Like Manafort, Cohen's legal issues will extend past the termination of the Mueller investigation and/or the Trump presidency. Let's examine momentarily a worst-case scenario of the Russia hoaxer's conspiracy theory: (a) Cohen in fact did travel to Prague; (b) Cohen in fact did meet with KGB operatives or persons that can be proven to be representatives of individuals or entitities on the sanctions list; (c) money changed hands between them, in this case, an allegation could be proven that Trump/Cohen paid Russian-connected individuals or entitities on the sanctions list to hack the DNC. That would be the worst case scenario. In sum, it would be a public relations fight in American media, cause it would be extremely difficult to prove any of this through a judicial process (impeachment included) before Trump leaves office. And other than a sanctions violation, there is no crime. As in the Stormy Daniels matter, you'd have to be able to connect Trump to the cash paid out by Cohen. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 12:14, 15 April 2018 (EDT)
The deep state, liberalism, leftism and atheism/agnosticism are collapsing under their own weight. When things collapse under their own weight, it can happen quickly like the collapse of the Soviet Union.
The spiraling out of control federal deficit and the taxation of the younger people to support an aging population is going to kill the deep state. Government will have to be cut back. Greece and Venezuela are shots across the bow to Western nations.
The decline of the atheist movement since 2011 shows how quickly things can collapse under their own weight.Conservative (talk) 01:56, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
I dunno; Trump's Syria attack shows he's now a captive of the deep state. And they'll thank him for doing their bidding by impeaching him after November. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 02:04, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
What crazy times we live in; Trump launches cruise missiles at his Kremlin bosses and they still call him a Putin stooge. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 02:07, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
Trump's attack on Syria with our British/French allies can be justified. If chemical weapons attacks have no consequences, their use could proliferate.
I know I have been critical of Britain on the main page recently, but their joint attack on Syria caused me to appreciate the Brits more. Recently, I have also thought about the contributions Edmund Burke (often called the godfather of conservatism) made to political discourse. In addition, recently I had a discussion with a Brit and frankly I like the British people's politeness. This video of British policemen disarming a knife wielding man shows in several instances how polite the British are. Conservative (talk) 02:23, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
Don't be so quick to swallow the deep state, IC, MSM, or UK intelligence line on this. Trump sounds like Hillary Clinton now. So much so, read the email Sidney Blumenthal sent to HRC to understand why "Assad must go!"
The best way to help Israel deal with Iran's growing nuclear capability is to help the people of Syria overthrow the regime of Bashar Assad...Iran's nuclear program and Syria's civil war may seem unconnected, but they are. For Israeli leaders, the real threat from a nuclear-armed Iran is not the prospect of an insane Iranian leader launching an unprovoked Iranian nuclear attack on Israel that would lead to the annihilation of both countries. What Israeli military leaders really worry about -- but cannot talk about -- is losing their nuclear monopoly. An Iranian nuclear weapons capability would not only end that nuclear monopoly but could also prompt other adversaries, like Saudi Arabia and Egypt, to go nuclear as well. The result would be a precarious nuclear balance in which Israel could not respond to provocations with conventional military strikes on Syria and Lebanon, as it can today....
I recommend reading the link in its entirety to understand what the Syrian war is about. Nothing has changed since Obama, Hillary, Israel, and Saudi Arabia tried to limit Iranian influence by creating and arming ISIS. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 03:26, 16 April 2018 (EDT)

Trump does not appear to want to topple Assad. He merely bloodied Assad's nose so to speak with a few cases of limited strikes. Trump knows that the replacement to Assad could easily be worse.Conservative (talk) 03:48, 16 April 2018 (EDT)

The point is, its more likely Mossad did the attack than Assad, as they did last year and numerous times before to affect American public opinion and get the US to do their dirty work (as they did to get the US to destroy Saddam in 2003 or bomb Gaddafi in 1986). Simply because ABC, or CNN, or the US State Dept, or CIA or whoever says Assad did it, means nothing. Assad has no reason to do it, given the risks of retaliation. Besides, Obama, Susan Rice, and Progressive Democrats claim Assad giving up chemical weapons is a major part Obama's legacy. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 04:08, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
Simple illustration: the same people who sold you on Trump being a Putin stooge are the very same people selling you on the idea Assad "killed his own people" with chemical weapons. And the fact Trump risks war with his boss, Vladimir Putin, is lost. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 04:13, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
Here's a more recent article (from this morning) explaining Iran is behind the Syrian War (there never was a Syrian "Civil" War). RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 10:56, 16 April 2018 (EDT)

Thanks for sharing the Lawfare blog article.Conservative (talk) 19:03, 16 April 2018 (EDT)

Tastes like chicken

As young as I am, I don't need my insides running smoothly all the time. So after consuming spoonfuls of oily sanctimony about Trump's alleged moral shortcomings from lied-to-Congress Former CIA Director Clapper [Russia treats Trump like an asset!], the strangely-incurious-about-the-origin-of-the-Steele-dossier-while-taking-great-lengths-to-peddle-it-to-the-opposition former CIA director Brennan [moral turpitude!] and now former FBI Director James "leaking and lying" Comey [morally unfit to be president!] I can only hearken back to the Clinton era when Rush Limbaugh announced the availability of government-provided laxatives "in the shape of Fred Flintstone and Barney the Dinosaur" and say, "If this is what we get from a deep state in rapid decline, who needs them!" VargasMilan (talk) 02:16, 16 April 2018 (EDT)

Who is actually listening when Comey talks about "truth"? Democrats? Republicans? Comey & the media both seem to forget even Democrats hate Hillary Clinton and know she guilty. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 03:56, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
Comey is a nut: "Comey Throws Obama And Lynch Under The Bus In New Book." He hates Republicans, he hates Democrats. He can't get along with anyone because no one else is as perfect as he is. Even McCabe, his own handpicked deputy, can't stand the guy: "Carr: Andrew McCabe earned Trump tweet." As a former employee, Comey's book is supposed to go through FBI censorship. He is apparently too high and mighty for that. PeterKa (talk) 07:30, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
Nothing more dangerous then a polite, well-mannered sociopath is as position of power. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 11:07, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
McCabe may have been less than candid when he claimed that Comey had "broad support" in the FBI: "James Comey’s ABC Interview Has Furious FBI Insiders Lashing Out." I liked this comment: "It’s how happy he looked on TV while cashing in on the biggest mistake in history. His mistake." PeterKa (talk) 14:02, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
McCabe himself didn't get support from Comey when Comey refused to lie to investigators to save McCabe's pension. And I doubt a guy who was fired by FBI for lying will be much help as Comey faces perjury charges. RobSDeep Six the Deep State!

Good riddance, Paul Ryan

Former FBI Director James Comey compares Trump to a mob boss and Speaker Paul Ryan has this to say on Meet the Press:

CHUCK TODD: James Comey, a man of integrity?
SPEAKER PAUL RYAN: As far as I know. I don't know him very well.[20]

Lyin Comey has a great video in which in even Senator Chuck Schumer admits that Comey doesn't have integrity. PeterKa (talk) 01:57, 17 April 2018 (EDT)

Absence of guns

Having rejected a background investigation, if former FBI director Comey didn't realize what the consequences would be in the absence of the two political operatives who pushed the Steele dossier being vetted (namely, abuse of FISA laws and violation of the 4th Amendment in the Bill of Rights regarding search and seizure against President Trump), and, if Comey is still trusted by liberals (which is the least blameworthy interpretation), how can we rely on these same liberals to apprehend the consequences of an absence of guns?

Knowing there is at least a fairly large minimum of culpability in the background of recent investigations sequentially misemploying lines of thought having to do with cause and effect highlights to us the fact that on the occasion of the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, not only do liberals simply repeat themselves like a vinyl record with a skip on it in hope of a more palatable outcome towards the origination of gun restrictions that are equally redundant, but that as the contrary evidence piles up against this preferred outcome, they only profess more and more willingness to support a gun confiscation policy making use of the atrocity to rally a vehicle of promotion that in reality applies less and less as a rationale for that policy, namely that the laws in place were inadequate, rather than simply ignored by those responsible for carrying them out. VargasMilan (talk) 04:01, 17 April 2018 (EDT)

Slow down...take breath once in a while... RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 09:07, 17 April 2018 (EDT)

Libsplaining

Libsplaining: a portmanteau of 'Liberal' and 'Explaining' is a term used to describe the action of a liberal explaining something to a non-liberal, typically in a way that is condescending. The allegation of libsplaining can be made by any non-liberal at any time given it meets the following criteria: it primarily requires excessively verbose, primarily one way, dialogue; it almost solely references only facts from other liberal sources; it does not use universal intellectual standards; and the arrogance is often palpable. - Blackleg

Sounds just like a perfect description of the term to me (and in many ways, also reminds me of what Sheldon Cooper does on The Big Bang Theory, as far as the excessive verbosity, condescension and arrogance go). Northwest (talk) 06:18, 18 April 2018 (EDT)

Judge in Cohen case is a Clinton crony

Are we supposed to believe that this judge got the Michael Cohen case as a result of random chance? "Who is Kimba Wood? Judge on Cohen case officiated Soros wedding, was Clinton AG pick." Trump should direct the DOJ Ethics Office to unrecuse both Attorney General Jeff Sessions and U.S. Attorney Geoffry Berman, the prosecutor for the district where Cohen's office is located, until Wood recuses. Partisan recusals are putting Democrats in the driver's seat.
Wood had to withdraw as Clinton's attorney general nominee when it was revealed that she once had an illegal alien nanny. This was before there was a law against hiring illegal aliens. But the nanny didn't have a social security number, so it was still tax fraud. PeterKa (talk) 23:37, 17 April 2018 (EDT)

Yep. She cheated an immigrant out of her Social Security benefits. How liberal! How compassionate! How non-exploitive! How non-elitist! RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 00:02, 18 April 2018 (EDT)
Wood is already violating attorney-client privilege so she can throw red meat to her Dem base. See "REPORT: Attorney for @CNN and @NYTIMES convinced judge to publicly name Sean Hannity" and Andrew McCarthy's "The Outrageous Outing of Sean Hannity, Cont’d." PeterKa (talk) 17:53, 18 April 2018 (EDT)
Here's the deal: the FISA warrant wasn't granted til October; some of it can be retroactive. The DOJ & FBI were conducting illegal FISA surveillance between April and October 2016 and funnelling the information results to Steele through the Ohrs, Bruce and Nellie. Some of the Steele dossier is based on actual FBI FISA surveillance which can be corroborated (the conclusions are manufactured supposition and innuendo), routed through Christopher Steele and FussionGPS to give the DOJ & FBI cover for their illegal surveillance. FusionGPS is not the source, its a front. Cohen was suing FussionGPS for $100 million.
The evidence that FusionGPS handled raw FISA data given them by the Obama administration is in the fact that the FISA database returned the wrong Michael Cohen for the trip to Prague. The name and year of birth matched, but it's not the same Michael Cohen. So Mueller and Rosenstein just seized what evidence the real Cohen had to prove his case, cause the deep state just isn't going to let the facts get out (they have six ways from Sunday to make your life miserable). Comey, Lynch, and the other plotters would hang.
RobS, Why are you using Chuck Schumer as a source?
"Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow (January 3, 2017).[21]
Then Chuck droned on and said Trump was "acting really dumb" to antagonize the intelligence community, when Trump falsely claimed on Twitter they were late in providing him with an intelligence briefing.
Schumer droned on and "said that as he understands, intelligence officials are 'very upset with how [Trump] has treated them and talked about them.'"
Aw...wasn't that nice of Schumer to be so conciliatory towards Trump? Apparently Steele and his handler sold the fraudulent Steele dossier so well that maybe even Schumer caught wind of it and fell for it. You know, that would explain why he intervened on that occasion—to finesse the impact of the most scandalous claim in the phony dossier so there would be no cognitive dissonance afterwards between interrupted symphony director Trump (management of intelligence community interrupted by Schumer and maybe even eliciting a harsh rebuttal from Trump for Schumer to rechannel as evidence of bad intent) and stunned Trump when he was hit solid by a blackmail attempt. Schumer could plan to say, "As I said, Trump's slight of the intelligence community when he falsely claimed that they had delayed a report must have hurt their feelings and earned Trump a rigorous scolding! Far be it from me to persistently intervene in the interests of other parties towards one another, but I think you may see him to show more demurral to their insight for...let's say the remainder of his term."
"Cryin' Chuck Schumer" further proved to be unreliable when he panicked about Trump's ban on countries' citizens' airflights from arriving in the United States where the countries have uncontrolled terrorist activity. The countries were determined to have such activity under the Obama administration (which included North Korea and Venezuela so it wasn't a "Muslim ban"), and even recommended the course of action Trump took.VargasMilan (talk) 04:36, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
Getting poop on Trump and others (sexual innuendo and "moral turpitude; they can't find Russian collusion) is a bonus. But covering up the FBI collusion with FusionGPS is the main objective.
What is most heart-sickening is (a) the politicization of law enforcement and intelligence is still going on, and (b) should the Democrats win in November, they will interpret it as a mandate from the people to criminalize political opposition. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 06:41, 19 April 2018 (EDT)

James Comey leaves the GOP

Former FBI Director James Comey says he "began" to leave the Republican party during the 2016 campaign and is now completely out: "Comey says he was driven from the Republican Party by Trumpian politics." He's showing pictures of his wife and daughters at Woman's March to let us know that his heart is now with Hillary. Let's take a look at the timeline of Comey's intellectual perambulations. In 2004, he prosecuted Martha Stewart on a charge of lying to the FBI. At the time, to charge someone this way, that is to say someone who had committed no other crime, was both unprecedented and sleazy. In 2005, Comey appointed Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald used the "lying to the FBI" gambit that Comey had pioneered to prosecute Dick Cheney aide Scooter Libby in 2005. In 2015, Libby's chief accuser, Judith Miller, recanted her testimony and admitted that Libby had in fact been telling the truth all along. This was Comey in his fully Republican phase, a deputy attorney general whose No. 1 priority was to take down a Republican vice president. In 2016, Comey investigated Hillary's email and concluded that "no reasonable prosecutor" would file charges in the case. This was blatantly untrue: "The FBI Says ‘Reasonable Prosecutors’ Wouldn’t Charge Hillary — Meet Some Who Disagree." Not only that, but it wasn't his call to make. He was usurping the authority of the attorney general. Golly gee, I am just devastated to see a guy like this leave the party. What will we do without him?
When Anita Hill was testifying against Clarence Thomas in 1991, the No. 1 liberal talking point was, "She is a Republican! Why would she lie?" But of course she never really was a Republican. When the Steele dossier was released, the media went to town telling us it was the work of "Never Trump Republicans." Why would that make it more credible? It turned out that this document had nothing to do with Republicans, Never Trumpers or otherwise. It was created by the Clinton campaign and the DNC.
It is customary that the special counsel be a member of the opposite party as the president. Yet no Democrat complained when "Republican" Robert Mueller got the appointment. Somehow, they knew he wasn't really a Republican. The media has conspired carefully over many years to promote Comey, Mueller, Rosenstein, et al. How does the scam work? I want to be a fake Republican too! PeterKa (talk) 06:56, 19 April 2018 (EDT)

Don't let the door hit you where the sun don't shine. The Democrats will make him their keynote speaker after he rigged Hillary's loss. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 17:12, 19 April 2018 (EDT)

China trade war and North Korea

Trump's threat of a China trade war and North Korea's willingness to engage in talks are inextricably linked. We've known for decades China is key to resolving the problems on the Korean peninsula. The regime only exists cause the Chinese permit it. Trump's credible threat to cut off China's easy access to the Wal-Mart gravy train forced China to deliver Kim Jong un an ultimatum. This is evidenced by three different events or news stories in the past two weeks: (1) Kim Jong un's unprecedented travel to China, i.e. he trusts' China with his personal security (this may even be where Pompeo met with Kim); (2) the simultaneous public statement by the Trump administration that there is a possibility of the US joining the TPP; (3) the announcement of a possible Trump-Kim summit. Beijing is the likely place such a meeting would occur. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 20:00, 19 April 2018 (EDT)

Trump is a combination of Sun Tzu and John Wayne. He definitely thinks more strategically and has more guts than Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and George H. W. Bush.Conservative (talk) 21:22, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
Trump has nothing in common with Sun Tzu. He does have at least one thing in common with John Wayne though, both being draft-dodgers. If you want to use a Hollywood top man as an analogy at least use Jimmy Stewart, who actually went to war. --JohnsonS (talk) 21:46, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
Kim wants to meet in Mongolia. "Air Force Un" is apparently not up to the job of taking the Dear Leader to a summit. Where ever he is going, Kim will be coming on slow in his rickety 37-mile-per-hour train. PeterKa (talk) 21:57, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
Trump's taken a play out of the Richard Nixon playbook - Nixon came in with a secret plan to end the war. The secret plan was to extricate America from an endless series of unwinnable wars with Russia & China (in Korea & Vietnam) by turning them into trading partners. The result is the world we live in today: China got rich off Wal-Mart shoppers and supported North Korea as nuclear weapons proliferated, and Russia's ballistic missile program is supported by the US taxpayer through the International Space Station as the US shut down NASA's rocket program.
Trump's no dummy. He's witnessed all these developments. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 23:29, 19 April 2018 (EDT)

JohnS, the charge of draft dodger as far as John Wayne is an illegitimate claim which certainly makes me question your other claims (see John Wayne's Wikipedia article and John Wayne, World War II and the Draft, Breitbart).

In response to the "complete militant atheist" Kathy Griffin holding up a mock bloody head of Donald Trump, Trump tweeted, "Kathy Griffin should be ashamed of herself. My children, especially my 11 year old son, Barron, are having a hard time with this. Sick!".[22] The teary-eyed militant atheist Kathy Griffin later publicly broke down and said "He broke me".[23]

With a mere Tweet and perhaps a few brief public comments about the matter, Trump quickly broke Kathy Griffin. Sun Tzu advocated achieving quick victories using an economy of resources. :) Donald Trump on Twitter; "The Supreme Art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting." - Sun Tzu".[24]Conservative (talk) 23:37, 19 April 2018 (EDT)

  • He definitely thinks more strategically and has more guts than Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and George H. W. Bush.
Amen. He definitely thinks more strategically than the globalist Neo-Cold Warmongers led by Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Democrats. Trump's a visionary - a requisite of a real estate developer - able to look down the road twenty years ahead and see the consequences of decisions made today. I'm tired of lawyers running America. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 23:59, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
In all fairness, Trump does get into a lot of needless battles so a comparison of Trump to Sun Tzu is certainly not a strong comparison. He also attacked John McCain's war record which Sun Tzu would have never done (Sun Tzu said to attack weakness and not strength). On the other hand, Trump definitely thinks more strategically and has more guts than Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.
On the other hand, George H. W. Bush had a strong WWII record, but he was rather spineless when it came to his "read my lips, no new taxes" pledge. And George H. W. Bush was a much better president than his son and he thought more strategically than his son (The Iraq War and its aftermath, etc. etc.).Conservative (talk) 06:43, 20 April 2018 (EDT)
Needless battles is right. It's probably the habit of a publicity hound in the New York media market where competition is fierce. He needs to recognize after a lifetime of trying, he won that contest, and now he has the luxury of picking his spots. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 12:40, 20 April 2018 (EDT)
  • China today is nothing like it was in Nixon's time. These days, it's all about making money. After the U.S. sanctioned the tiny Bank of Dandong in June, the bankers lost interest in backing North Korea. These are the people who run China. Law has a tenuous hold. When the party is serious about getting something done, they don't make a law about it. They tell the central bank to issue a regulation. The U.S. media promotes an image of China as an up and coming superpower ready to challenge us in the near future. I see a lot of this type of nonsense on Drudge, and there is plenty in the New York Times as well. These stories are less about China than about the desire of readers for "decline of America" stories. Many are updated versions of claims the media made about Japan back in the 1980s. If you keep making the same prediction long enough, some day you will right. But as of now, the Chinese population has no interest in politics or foreign policy -- and the party is desperate to keep it that way. China's last military action was the invasion of Vietnam in 1979. This action might have been successful in battlefield terms, but it was a nightmare in terms of Chinese domestic politics. Economic warfare isn't an option either. If China ever dumped it's U.S. Treasuries, their currency would appreciate. Keeping the value of its currency low is the reason China bought U.S. assets in the first place. PeterKa (talk) 08:50, 20 April 2018 (EDT)
China is what it is today because of Nixon. Prior to Nixon, China had been under economic sanctions since 1950. China will equal and surpass the United States as the world's largest economy in a few years. At that point, the United States is in the position that the British Empire was in 100 years ago - recognising it can no longer stop the emergence of the United States as the world's most powerful nation, so if it is to survive, it must tuck itself under China's wing as a protectorate and offer China its wisdom, experience, and guidance to help them rule the world. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 12:25, 20 April 2018 (EDT)
China is going to be a tough economic competitor to the USA because it is becoming Christianized via Protestant evangelical Christianity. Already, the economic development is raising IQs in Christianized China which is going to cause them to raise their "economic game". Read this article: The Protestant Work Ethic: Alive & Well…In China.
In 2005, the Chinese Journal of Endemiology (Owned by China ‘s ministry of health) reported that Zhejiang province (which has been Christianized) had the highest IQ of all the provinces in China with an average IQ of 115.8 which was markedly higher than China's average IQ at the time which was a score of 103.4.[25] If memory serves, America's national IQ is 100.Conservative (talk) 13:25, 20 April 2018 (EDT)

NYT once told the truth. Boy, do they regret it

Just before the election, the New York Times published "Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia" (31-10-2016). This was a common theme in the press at the time. If we go by Peter Strzok's text messages ("there's no big there"), it was also a widespread view among the FBI's top brass. Now Comey tells us that the NYT story was bogus: "I don’t know who the FBI is in this context. The FBI didn’t, at least to my knowledge, push any such story. By that point, we had concluded that there was an ongoing effort, that it had three goals: To dirty up the American democracy, to hurt Hillary Clinton and to help elect Donald Trump."[26]
Uh, how does this make any sense? The NYT story was part of a campaign in the weeks before the election to portray the FBI as a Republican stronghold. As director, Comey must know something about how and why these stories got published. If Comey felt that the NYT was misrepresenting his views, why didn't he correct the record with, say, a strategic leak to WaPo? Comey certainly isn't above leaking.
Before the election, the Russia collusion theory was dismissed by the NYT and the rest of the mainstream media as conspiracy theory nonsense. What's happened in the last year to make it more credible? Comey admits that the Steele dossier was paid for, unverifiable oppo research. The Mueller investigation spent millions to expose a handful of Facebook trolls. Oh, and we learned that Comey's deputy was a crooked cop who took Clinton cash. PeterKa (talk) 21:29, 20 April 2018 (EDT)

The NYT article appeared the same day as David Corn's article in Mother Jones about investigating Trump which Christopher Steele personally leaked to Corn. It was the first instance of Steele dossier allegations appearing in print. It marked the beginning of the "insurance policy" becoming operational, after Comey was forced to publicly re-open the Clinton investigation.
diGenova refers to the recently released Comey memos as "Comey's suicide note". RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 22:42, 21 April 2018 (EDT)
So it was two track policy: Appeal to the conspiracy theorists in Mother Jones and Heat Street while posing as the responsible establishment types in the NYT and WaPo. During the Bush years, the polls showed that an astonishingly high percentage of Dems were 9/11 Truthers. Dems certainly flocked to Fahrenheit 9/11. Yet the NYT and WaPo kept the quacks out. Since the election, the Dems have bet everything on collusion theory. PeterKa (talk) 02:37, 22 April 2018 (EDT)
In 2009 Democrats smeared opponents of Obamacare as racists; by 2015 Democrats tried to criminalize opposition and turn America into a single party state (like North Korea, China and Cuba) - proving everything Conservapedia has documented during the lost decade of Obamunism as a factual historical record. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 03:38, 22 April 2018 (EDT)

Student walkout in support of the second amendment

Here's something interesting: [27]
On May 2nd, there is a semi-organized "walkout" planned in protest of restrictions on the right to bear arms. Chances are, students are not going to be punished by schools for refusing to participate in this one, unlike its counterpart. --David B (TALK) 04:36, 21 April 2018 (EDT)

Younger Canadians believe in life after death at higher rate than elders

According to a poll conducted by Angus Reid, younger Canadians are more likely to believe in "life after death" than their elders. 70% of 18-29 year olds state they believe in life after death, compared to approximately 60 - 65% of those aged 50 years or more. 18 - 29 year olds are also more likely to say they believe in Hell (46% compared to mid 30's for older cohorts.) Additionally, the youngest generation states they attend religious services monthly or more at slightly higher rate than Gen X or Boomers (but not 70+ year olds.) There are some negatives with the report: 18 - 30 year olds are less likely to say the believe in God (66% compared to the national average of 73%) and less likely to believe that Jesus was the divine Son of God. It does seem odd that belief in life after death is higher than belief in God, but the report didn't state what percentage answered "don't know" (if that option was given.) Also, I've read from other sources that immigration from Asia is fairly high in Canada, so that might explain the difference. Here are the links: [28] and [29] --AnchorDown (talk) 21:23, 21 April 2018 (EDT)

Look at the article Canada and irreligion. Canadian irreligion faces a bleak future in Canada. Canada has high immigration and the world is experiencing global desecularization. For example, Eastern Asia is experiencing rapid desecularization. (see: East Asia and global desecularization).
Also, both Christians and Muslims believe in hell. Maybe an uptick in belief in hell among Canadians is partly due to an increase in their Muslim population.
In addition, Evangelicals and Canada, 2012: "Evangelicals Christians are growing in terms of members & attendees. The growth of evangelicals has kept pace with Canada’s population growth. There are 2.4 million evangelical Christians in Canada today. This means that evangelicals’ proportion of Canada’s population has held steady—no small achievement in today’s society. Prof. R. Bibby estimates ~8% of Canadians are evangelical Christians, a figure that’s been stable for 140 years, since 1871. Other researchers put the figure as high as 16%. Because evangelicals are more committed church-members than their mainline contemporaries, attendance at Evangelical churches exceeds that of mainline churches by 25% on a typical Sunday."[30]Conservative (talk) 23:00, 21 April 2018 (EDT)

Strategy for the midterms

I yearn to see Hillary behind bars as much as anyone. But I don't think this is a winning strategy as far as the midterm election goes: "Hillary Clinton, not on ballot, is star of GOP midterm plan." Immigration is the GOP's best issue, even in California: "Shock Poll: 59 Percent Of Californians Want Increased Deportations of Illegals." Mandatory e-Verify and merit based immigration is how you control the border. Even better, eliminate the tax deduction for wages paid to illegals. The most respected election forecaster is the Cook Political Report. They give the Republicans 211 "solid," "lean", and "likely" seats compared to 192 for the Dems. PeterKa (talk) 07:16, 23 April 2018 (EDT)

Cook goes district-by-district and assumes that undecides will break according to the presidential approval numbers: "If Democrats Are Doing so Great, Why Don't They Have a Bigger Lead on Generic Ballot?." The mainstream media has learned nothing and is doing 2016 all over again. They are predicting victory early and often, as if they can forecast their way into winning. PeterKa (talk) 21:30, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

Setbacks for the Left -- all in one morning

This is a pretty good morning for conservatives so far:

  • A Republican (who will join the Freedom Caucus[31][32]) won the AZ special election last night
  • Finland is ending its universal income pilot program since it turned out to be a failure[33]
  • The NRA is seeing its largest fundraising in 15 years[34]
  • The Hill reported what I've noticed in the past month--nationalists are becoming more influential in the Trump Administration again[35][36]

There are wins and losses on both sides (and based on what we see in Revelation, the globalist Left will have more victories until the Second Coming), but it's nice when you see all these good stories in one morning. --1990'sguy (talk) 10:43, 25 April 2018 (EDT)

Perfect illustration - Freedom Caucus are RINOs. Freedom Caucus voted to keep Obamacare. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 15:21, 25 April 2018 (EDT)
BS -- a statement like that makes Tom Perez sound like a credible source. The Freedom Caucus represents the GOP base, and it opposes the constant GOP inability to reverse the Democrat big government policies. Remember how John McCain and other GOP weaklings said in 2010 that they would completely reverse ObamaCare, "tooth and nail"? Conservatives were expecting that, but people like McCain and Susan Collins (a real RINO) surrendered to leftist pressure. The first 2017 ObamaCare repeal bill was significantly weaker than McCain and Collins themselves advocated for (originally) and even voted for in 2015. It makes sense that the Freedom Caucus opposed it -- you'd expect the moderates to keep their own promises.
The Freedom Caucus eventually softened their approach (contrary to even McCain's original promises) and tried to work a compromise that advanced conservative values -- it was the GOP moderates like McCain and Collins who became the real problem (remember how uncompromising they became in the end?). You've been repeating the same lies for a year already, even after it became clear that the moderates were to blame. --1990'sguy (talk) 17:07, 25 April 2018 (EDT)
Nope. The Freedom Caucus are a bunch of (mostly Southern) renegade Democrats who represent redneck opioid addicts dependent on Medicare & Obamacare government largesse.
Your narrative sounds like the PBS Frontline piece aired a week ago that said McCain ran against the "GOP establishment" in 2000, and in the next breath said McCain was the GOP establishment in 2008 who hired an anti-GOP establishment Republican, Sarah Palin, as running mate. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 17:54, 25 April 2018 (EDT)
Freedom Caucus members are libertarian conservatives -- they vote against big budgets because they have massive domestic spending, even if they also provide large defense spending. That is completely contrary to the typical establishment Southern Republican (you're confusing the Southern GOP establishment with the Freedom Caucus). Also, at least half of their membership is outside the South.
Completely repealing ObamaCare was a GOP establishment position until last year. Not only am I noting the facts, but none of this contradicts McCain being a GOP establishment member in 2010. Maybe he wasn't part of the establishment in 2000, but he's since become part of the establishment (either way. McCain never was anti-establishment. --1990'sguy (talk) 20:44, 25 April 2018 (EDT)
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(1) 44 members of a 237 member caucus is hardly the GOP base; (2) Arizona, California, and other western states south of the lines drawn by the Kansas-Nebraska Act are traditionally considered "Southern states" with a traditional Southern-Democrat political culture; (3) according to PBS Frontline, McCain is very much anti-establishment Republican. McCain (who was born in the Canal Zone), describes himself as a "Teddy Roosevelt" Republican, not even as an Ike or Reagan Republican. Most people would deem that as a Progressive Republican, which includes a strong defense bent. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 02:04, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
(1) Once again, you're confusing a party's base with its elected officials. The GOP's elected officials do not represent the base in the same way that the elected officials of the conservative parties in the UK and (formerly) Switzerland and Finland do/did not represent their bases. There aren't more Freedom Caucus people in Congress because the establishment has the money, know-how, and influence (not to mention the Buckley Rule); (2) Even IF states like CA and AZ "are traditionally considered" southern, they definitely have nothing in common with southern culture/politics today, and it hasn't been that way since at least the 1970s. At the very least, nobody sees the states that way, not even the people living in them; (3) "Anti-establishment" can mean different things. Regardless, McCain is not a solid conservative, and that's what matters. --1990'sguy (talk) 18:02, 27 April 2018 (EDT)

Above: Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854; below the black line of the 1820 Missouri Compromise is the area traditionally known as "The South", while the territory East of the Mississippi is the "Deep South". The Civil War began when Southerners tried to expand slavery into Northern territories, that is, territories known for a generation as "the North" after the Missouri Compromise redefined the Mason-Dixon line.
Below: Freedom Caucus district map. Note: there are only four large, rural congressional districts in the West that are north of the Mason-Dixon (Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming, and Idaho), representing about 3 million people, less than 1% of the nation's population. In the Midwest there again are only 4 rural districts in Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, and Iowa. Again, about 3 million people. The remaining 36 districts are in the South and Appalachian hill country - all traditional Democrat strongholds. Its laughable to consider this element on the fringes of both parties as the GOP base. RobSDeep Six the Deep State!

Once again, you're confusing the party base with its elected officials. You naively think they're one and the same -- problem is, the base doesn't have the money or political know-how to win, and they are often convinced to vote for moderates because of the Buckley Rule. Look at the UK, where the Tory base supported "Leave" but the vast majority of their MPs supported "Remain". Or look at the Swiss People's Party, which saw entire regional party sections break away when the party moderates revolted in 2008, but which regained everything that it lost in the following years because the many moderate leaders didn't actually represent their voters. We're going in circles on this.
Also, you forgot to point out Freedom Caucus members in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Ohio, which are not southern states (also, considering Virginia's demographic changes, Dave Brat's district probably shouldn't be considered southern in a cultural sense). Also, the Mason-Dixon line has zero political relevance today -- it's a defunct relic.
Besides, you're ignoring the fact that the Freedom Caucus's membership is exclusively hardline libertarian-conservatives. To claim (or infer) that they're big government former Democrats is beyond absurd (to put it mildly). --1990'sguy (talk) 18:02, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
(a) New Jersey Republicans are by definition RINO, whether liberal or Tea Partier; (b) rural parts of Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia and Ohio are Appalachian hillbillies; (c) the 40th parallel, which stretches from the Atlantic to California (sometimes, mistakenly, referred to as the Mason-Dixon) is and remains the traditional division between "North" and "South". "Dixie" comes from the term "South of Mason-Dixon". RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 19:39, 27 April 2018 (EDT)

Bonus Points: What is farther West, Reno Nevada or Los Angelas California? RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 06:41, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

P.S. the Second Coming occurs when a repentant sinner accepts Christ, according to one interpretation. It is only a future event for those not in Christ. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 15:24, 25 April 2018 (EDT)
Sure, there is more than one view on Revelation, though I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of Evangelical Protestants reject that view, as the Bible is pretty clear of it being a future event and that personal salvation != the Second Coming. Others will probably disagree with my statement, but I won't debate it further. --1990'sguy (talk) 17:07, 25 April 2018 (EDT)
It is future, if you are lost and not saved. But that can be changed in the twinkling of an eye when the Spirit of Christ is resurrected in you. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 17:45, 25 April 2018 (EDT)

How much farther will the left collapse?

We know there are a number of factors that are causing the left to collapse and here are the main ones:

1. Muslim immigration and Muslim terrorism plus other immigration - affecting European and American politics

2. Nationalism

3. High youth unemployment in various European countries

4. Failing welfare states and countries national debt growing to where they will be at unsustainable levels

5. Internet causing leftists to be less able to control the flow of information

6. Economic protectionism/tarriffs killing off liberal/progressive elitism

7. Desecularization is moving the world into a post-secular age.

8. Automation/robotics killing off factory jobs and unions

9. Leftist infighting - warring tribes among identity politics, etc.

10. Foreign competition putting pressure inefficient leftist ideas (corporate liberalism causing inefficient policies and hiring decisions, etc. etc). For example, China is becoming Christianized and will be putting more economic pressure on the West.

So how far will the left further collapse?

Will the speed of collapse further accelerate? Conservative (talk) 13:21, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

I dunno; brainwashed youth remain their strong suit. OTH, I just read how under sanctions, or rather Russian reprisals for sanctions, the Russians aren't sending Hollywood billions in royalties for entertainment product that hates Christianity and promotes the gay agenda. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 13:41, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
I know by American standards France's Marine Le Pen is on the left, but in her country, she is on the right. She had strong support among France's youth who have high youth unemployment. Granted the milennials are liberal/leftists. On the other hand, "A 2016 American study found that while only 18% of milennials attended church, church attendance was 41% among Generation Z." from Conservative or Liberal? For Generation Z, It’s Not That Simple.Conservative (talk) 14:40, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

News pick: "Trump pushes to swap Electoral College for popular vote"

Politico reports. Seems like a surprising position for Trump to take; what are your thoughts? Thanks, GregG (talk) 18:53, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

Trump said no such thing. Not surprising commie-libs thwist Trumps words into advocacy and activism. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 19:12, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
I saw the headline and read the story on liberal Politico. The headline is an overstatement because Trump was not "pushing" this, but merely engaging in his customary champion-like style. But thanks for mentioning it.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 20:54, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
From the video (at 19:53): "And by the way, they also like to always talk about Electoral College. Well, it's an election based on the Electoral College. I would rather have a popular election, but it's a totally different campaign...It's as though you're running — if you're a runner you're practicing for the 100-yard dash as opposed to the one-mile. The Electoral College is different. I would rather have the popular vote, because it's — to me, it's much easier to win." (emphasis added). GregG (talk) 21:08, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
In a true popular vote system, there is a second round of voting if no one wins a majority in the first round. Most of the third party vote in 2016 went to the Libertarians. It's not likely that these people would have voted for Hillary if there had been a second round. The same people who want a popular vote are also against voter ID and other checks on voter fraud. In short, a popular vote system would be an invitation to massive fraud. PeterKa (talk) 21:43, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
GregG, again, you're confusing a personal opinion with advocacy. Just cause Trump expressed a personal preference does not translate into advocacy for a mass movement, although brainless, heel clicking, commie-libs and worshippers of false messiahs assume it does. This is a fundamental difference between thinking people, i.e. conservatives, and brainless commie-libs. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 21:58, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
Peter, Jill Stein, the libertarian candidate, teamed up with Michael Moore and some other liberals to call for a recount against Pennsylvania and Michigan, and actually attained a recount for Wisconsin, based on some phony polling problem allegations. They had then hoped state Democrats could have slow-walked the count, leaving Hillary with an electoral college total higher than Trump. And once the delay had thrown the decision to the House of Representatives, Hillary's "lead" would have been an excuse for never-Trump House members to swing to Hillary. The group ultimately failed due to poor execution, but that tells me that Jill Stein, rather than being neutral, would have shooed her supporters into Hillary's camp, if we apply the hypothetical circumstances you supplied of a second round of popular-vote voting. VargasMilan (talk) 05:37, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
Old news. It was Hillary funders and lawyers that gave Stein the $2 million for recount. Stein is a Putin stooge & operative. Just more evidence of Democrat & Hillary collusion with Russia. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 14:34, 27 April 2018 (EDT)


Trump said: "I would rather have the popular vote, because it's — to me, it's much easier to win." (emphasis added).

It's obvious what Trump is doing here. He is taunting his opponents. Many of his fans love it when he taunts his opponents. And his opponents become even crazier due his taunts and their Trump derangement syndrome gets even worse.

And Trump knows that his taunting tends to be more viral on the internet, etc. For example, this Trump tweet spread like wildfire: "I went from VERY successful businessman, to top T.V. Star….. ….to President of the United States (on my first try). I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius….and a very stable genius at that!”.

"If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu.Conservative (talk) 00:31, 27 April 2018 (EDT)

Exactly. Trump is clearly speaking of the personal preference of an ambitious candidate, and not advocating for constitutional change or claiming the electoral college is undemocratic. And the commie-lib media then wonders why they are called fake news. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 01:35, 27 April 2018 (EDT)

Dragon energy ends Korean War

With Kanye West making rap great again, a new era of "dragon energy" has dawned. West is nutty as a fruitcake. But we can hope that his endorsement of Candice Owens will help blacks escape the one-party Democrat plantation. Check out this dank meme of Melania in dragon energy sunglasses. Jerusalem may be getting some dragon energy too.
The leaders of North and South Korea have met at Panmunjom and agreed to end the Korean War. In a way, we've heard this song before. The first North-South summit in 2000 was also hailed as the beginning of a new era. It turned out that the South had paid the North $500 million to get the North Korean leader to agree to a summit. This money was the only aspect of summit diplomacy that Pyongyang had any real interest in. This time around, NK is motivated by international sanctions. I doubt that the North Koreans can build nukes or ICBMs without Chinese and Russian help. The banking sanctions announced by the U.S. Treasury Department last September no doubt played a larger role in Pyongyang's decision making than Trump's rhetoric about "little rocket man."
I loved this tweet: "How long before a federal judge in Hawaii orders the Korean War to continue?"[37] PeterKa (talk) 16:15, 27 April 2018 (EDT)

Traditionally, the North Koreans have called for a U.S.-North Korea peace agreement that would shut out and delegitimize the government in Seoul. A North-South peace deal is thus a huge breakthrough. Why are they changing their tone now? Presumably the Chinese applied pressure at the summit in March. Various reports claim that the Chinese are worried about a possible collapse of the North Korean nuclear test site. But surely NK has other mountains where they can do testing. I see these reports as a face saving effort to allow China to avoid admitting that it caved before Trump's banking sanctions and threats of trade war. PeterKa (talk) 21:45, 28 April 2018 (EDT)
It's a staight line with a pretty coherent strategy, beginning here: "March 16, 2016 - Donald Trump open to Japan and South Korea having nuclear weapons", followed by withdrawal from TPP, followed by threats of renegotiating trade deals with China, followed by real tariff action. Some of Trumps harshest critics (Mark Shields or Bill Richardson, for example) acknowledge the brilliance of it. It'll be capped off with the Nobel Peace Prize going to Kim Jong un rather than Trump, which the Nobel Prize Committee and dirty, worthless, lying leftists will be only to happy to do. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 22:15, 28 April 2018 (EDT)
See Daily Caller: "Trump Brings Up North Korea — The Audience Erupts In Chants Of ‘Nobel! Nobel!’." Trump's response: "That’s very nice, thank you. That’s very nice. Nobel. I just want to get the job done.” A modest Trump. You don't see that every day. PeterKa (talk) 07:30, 29 April 2018 (EDT)
Let's examine precedents: Begin & Sadat were jointly awarded the prize after Carter brought them together in the Camp David Accords; Carter's sole ambition was ego and to win the prize, not make peace. After whining for years Carter was awarded it as a consolation prize later in a year that there was no one else to give it to. Reagan was ignored, despite ending the Cold War. Gorbachev got Reagan's award (which could have been awarded jointly) after murdering Christian women and old folks trying to free themselves from leftist oppression in Tblisi. Obama got it for being black. Face it, Kim & Moon will get it and the white male Republican ignored.
Incidentally, Sadat's successor Mubarak is now considered an oppressive tyrant and dictator for carrying out the Camp David Accords. And Sadat was murdered cause his accepting the 'Peace Prize' was evidence of his complicity with enemies of Islam. There is no making peace with the enemies of Islam. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 19:01, 29 April 2018 (EDT)
Sadat was killed by Egyptian Islamic Jihad. It was about making Egypt an Islamic state, not peace with Israel. PeterKa (talk) 05:58, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
Exactly. There is no making a peace treaty with the enemies of God. When Sadat accepted the Nobel Peace Prize from Western Christendom for making peace with infidels and Jews, it proved he was an enemy of God, too. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 06:09, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
The assassination was two years after the peace treaty was signed, which is the reason some people connect the two. But the timing was not the choice of the terrorists. Several leaders of the group had been arrested in a recent crackdown. The ones who were still at large figured it was now or never. The group had been plotting for years and might have continued plotting for years more. The Muslim Brotherhood had attempted to assassinate Nasser in 1954. So Egypt has a history of Islamist vs Arab nationalist violence that is separate from the issue of policy toward Israel. PeterKa (talk) 07:38, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
The time frame is meaningless. The Pope for instance, likewise was shot two years after the Siege of the Grand Mosque at Mecca by a Turk who blamed him (even though it was done by the Saudi Ikhwan whom the Salafi-jihadis today claim as a shahid). The Egyptian Islamic Jihad, together with bin Laden's money, formed the backbone of al Qaeda, and remains so (after they were chased out of Egypt for murdering Sadat). Bottomline: Salafists believe there is no making peace with the enemies of God, although there are loopholes in Islamic law allowing temporary treaties of convenience. It was not the Camp David Accords that got Sadat killed, although that raised suspicions. It was accepting the Western world's Nobel Peace Prize that confirmed those suspicions. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 08:57, 30 April 2018 (EDT)

Abortion is ‘not a human right’

The State Department’s report on Human Rights and Practices for 2017 omitted abortion as a "human right." It was listed as "women’s reproductive rights" which was supposedly intended to cover contraceptives, but everyone agreed also covered abortion. [38] --David B (TALK) 21:20, 28 April 2018 (EDT)

I added this to the Donald Trump achievements: Abortion article. In addition to removing abortion as a "human right", the report criticized countries that engage in population control. --1990'sguy (talk) 22:44, 29 April 2018 (EDT)

White House Correspondent's Dinner

Trump skipped the White House Correspondent's Dinner on Friday and CNN is not happy about it. Traditionally, these dinners were all about mocking the president while the press got to watch him pretend to enjoy it. When Obama became president, he made it clear that he wasn't going to put up with any jokes targeting him. The event then became an occasion for conservative bashing. In 2009, "comedian" Wanda Sykes called for the waterboading of Rush Limbaugh. In 2011, Obama and Seth Meyers both devoted their speeches to savaging Trump on the birth certificate issue. It's often claimed that the 2011 dinner was a traumatic experience for Trump, provoking him into running for president. According to this article, Trump indicated that liked Obama's jokes, but didn't care for Meyers. We can safely assume that what he said is what he really thought; Trump is not the kind of guy who carries a grudge around in secret. The event was once an occasion when the press and president got to know each other. Now it's a place for Hollywood celebs, professional comedians, and heads of corporations to see and be seen. It's hard to see why a president should go anymore. PeterKa (talk) 23:13, 28 April 2018 (EDT)

Posted a headline about Trump in Michigan tonight, poking fun of D.C.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 01:03, 29 April 2018 (EDT)
If the media is trying to justify Trump's boycott and confirm the stereotype of them being petty, Trump-hating elitists, it seems to have worked: "Media hands Trump big, embarrassing win." Host Michelle Wolf has has a most unpleasant voice. Her "How poor is Trump?" routine was supposed to be funny? Perhaps she was trying to top previous WHCD speakers in terms of sheer rudeness. PeterKa (talk) 01:12, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
That wasn't a comedy routine; it was verbal abuse. VargasMilan (talk) 08:46, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
Wolf may be a comedian after all: "Michelle Wolf claims non-laughter of jokes was due to attendees not wanting to seem partisan." When I hear a really funny joke, my first response is to ask, "If I laugh at this one, would it make me look partisan?" Mark Steyn has written an analysis Wolf's comedic skills. He argues that her speech was one raw insult after another with little to no comedic phrasing or delivery. PeterKa (talk) 08:45, 1 May 2018 (EDT)

GOP assassination fears

Mo Brooks, dying of cancer, is free to speak his mind. Republican's are retiring en masse because of assassination fears. The shooting of Scalise scared the bejezus out of them.

As in Noah's day, God destroyed the children of Cain because of the unavenged murder of his brother Abel. God laid down the law, the murderers will not run the planet. These cowards need to stand up to these leftist murderers. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 20:29, 29 April 2018 (EDT)

Jewish mean intelligence was higher than I thought, but still above average

This appears to be the case: "For example, if Lynn is correct and the Ashkenazi mean is 107.5, then the average global Jewish IQ is 103.2."[39] The Ashkenazi Jews are a subset of the Jewish population.

I suspect one of the reasons for Jews being high achieving is their grit (number of Nobel prizes, etc). The psychologist/researcher Angela Duckworth has found "that grit — a combination of passion and perseverance for a singularly important goal — is the hallmark of high achievers in every domain."[40] In addition, the Jews value chutzpah/boldness/guts. For example, Israeli officers are one of the few (or only) officers in modern armies that lead from the front and have the highest officer mortality rate as a result (source: Art of the Leader by Wiliam Cohen). Israeli army statistics: "Leading from the front during Operation Protective Edge, soldiers in command positions accounted for 44% of IDF deaths."[41]Conservative (talk) 03:27, 30 April 2018 (EDT)

As far as ethnic/religious groups, it appears as if Chinese Christians currently have the highest IQs in the world. "China has the 5th highest national IQ in the world with a score of 105.[7] China's Zhejiang province is China's Christianity heartland.[11] In 2005, the Chinese Journal of Endemiology (Owned by China ‘s ministry of health) reported that Zhejiang province had the highest IQ of all the provinces in China with an average IQ of 115.8 which was markedly higher than China's average IQ at the time which was a score of 103.4" (see: Asian atheism and intelligence). Conservative (talk) 03:32, 30 April 2018 (EDT)

Moon says Trump should get Nobel

The South Koreans have Trump figured out: "Trump Should Win Nobel Peace Prize, Says South Korean President." If the Korea deal works out, Trump's next move should be to retire triumphantly. A second term can only be a disappointment. It would also make him the oldest president ever (one year older than Reagan). I don't think he wants to be remembered for that. Despite a great economy and foreign policy success, Trump's job approval remains stuck at 42% approval/55% disapproval.[42] When Bush lost control of Congress in 2006, he was at 38/57 percent. The golf course of Mar-A-Largo beckons. PeterKa (talk) 10:01, 30 April 2018 (EDT)

Rasmussen polls don't have him "stuck" at 42% but rather floating in April 2018 at about 49% approval. The polls say to me that as Trump accomplishes things, liberals all the more strongly disapprove of Trump, because they want a Democratic president to be the one who's doing those things or denying the accomplishment of other things that conservatives want. VargasMilan (talk) 13:14, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
Let's assume the Dems get control of both Houses next year - Trump then becomes the Democrats' president. He wants to (a) be liked, and (b) be successful. He'll sign anything they send to him. They'll be married to him whether they want to or not. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 18:46, 30 April 2018 (EDT)

Capitalize infinity in popular articles section

Could someone capitalize the infinity entry in the popular articles section on the main page? FredericBernard (talk) 12:58, 1 May 2018 (EDT)

I've noticed that, but would capitalizing it be an improvement? I'm skeptical.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:45, 2 May 2018 (EDT)
It would make our entries consistently-formatted. Aesthetics is important when wanting to attract people to a webpage. --1990'sguy (talk) 23:49, 2 May 2018 (EDT)
Consistency was what I was thinking. FredericBernard (talk) 13:18, 3 May 2018 (EDT)