Difference between revisions of "Talk:Shockofgod"

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Typos

I just wanted to point out a few typos in this page, because it is linked to on the front page. In the second sentence, "cummulatively," should be "cumulatively" if I'm not mistaken. Also, in the first section after the Table of Contents, "In June of 2011, Shockofgoddeclared" should have a space before "declared." That's all I can find at the moment; please let me know if there is anything else I can do. Thank you! Kevin Davis ^Talk 20:35, 30 November 2011 (EST)

Hi everyone. Could someone please address the aforementioned copy-editing mistakes? Thank you! Kevin Davis ^Talk 10:49, 2 December 2011 (EST)

These typos have been left uncorrected for over 6 months, as Kevin pointed out. Can an admin please fix them? :) CWest 14:55, 7 June 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for the input. Article has been updated. Conservative 01:28, 14 January 2014 (EST)

Word to substance ratio

The definition of the word accurate includes the word "correct" in it. Therefore, the word-to-substance ratio of Shockofgod's request for "proof and evidence that atheism is accurate and correct" could be improved if the words "and correct" were omitted. CWest 14:55, 7 June 2012 (EDT)

To be fair, my understanding is that it is a quote from SoG. You should take that up with SoG himself. GregG 17:39, 29 June 2012 (EDT)

Shockofgod knows that most YouTube atheists are immature young people who have not outgrown their atheism yet (Most people raised by American atheists leave their atheism. See: Atheism has a lower retention rate compared to other worldviews). Due to their immaturity and attendant poor attention spans, no doubt Shockofgod adds the words "and correct" for emphasis! Conservative 01:35, 14 January 2014 (EST)

A comma splice

"These false reports are not isolated incidents, many atheists will try this deceitful tactic to block out Christianity and creation science." A semicolon is appropriate instead of the comma. Thanks, GregG 22:48, 10 August 2013 (EDT)

Is he really significant?

This article kind of seems like an advertisement for a YouTube channel and a podcast... Don't anti-atheist argument articles do the job here well enough? Not sure it really helps the argument to be featuring a guy who's most "famous" quotation is barely even English.Editman 7:04, 21 December 2013 (EST)

When atheists answer Shockofgod's question, then they will deserve to ask if he is significant. But not before then! See: Essay: The question atheists fear. Conservative 16:54, 13 January 2014 (EST)

Converage out of proportion to importance

I'm new to Conservapedia. I'm surprised how many articles link to this person. He doesn't seem to be a particularly prominent Conservative Christian.

Special:WhatLinksHere/Shockofgod&limit=500

I don't propose removing the article but perhaps we don't to link to this page from such a huge number of pages? Perhaps just keep the references where he is most relevant.

Creation Ministries International prominently features a Shockofgod video in their flagship atheism article.[1]. And his YouTube videos have collectively received over 25,000,000 views. To this day, Shockofgod's question stumps atheists and utterly humiliates the atheist community. And unlike Stephen Hawking, Shockofgod never embarrassed himself by positing that the universe poofed itself into existence from nothing (There is a reason the Shockofgod CP article is larger than the Stephen Hawking CP article - Hawking has never stumped the Christian community, but Shockofgod's question continues to stump atheists. See: Essay: The question atheists fear). Conservative 17:03, 13 January 2014 (EST)

Does it by any chance feature this video[2]--JerryCa 17:01, 13 January 2014 (EST)

That charge would never standup in court. Shockofgod promoting a redirect to counter attempts to repeatedly shut down his YouTube channel was warranted. The redirect would direct people to his new YouTube channel after atheists attempted to censor him by repeatedly false flagging his YouTube channels. See: Using a redirect to thwart atheist censorship.

After embarrassing yourself with this spurious charge, I think you need to redeem yourself at his point and answer Shockofgod's question. And unfortunately for you, this is something that you cannot do. Conservative 17:19, 13 January 2014 (EST)

I don't need to answer his questions as I agree with him, however obtaining information by deception which you just admitted he did, is wrong, no matter the circumstances--JerryCa 17:28, 13 January 2014 (EST)

I made no such admission. Your desperation is showing. Conservative 17:39, 13 January 2014 (EST)

Whatever his reasons were, Shockofgod attempted to scam users passwords for his own means. Do you agree with his actions or do you condemn him for them?--JerryCa 20:10, 13 January 2014 (EST)

And these people will say or do anything to keep ShockofGod - or any other Christian for that matter - from spreading the message. I saw that admitted pagan's video, and I also saw what he did within the first twenty seconds of it rolling. Surely, you don't think smoking weed improves clarity, intellect, and judgement, do you? Karajou 21:05, 13 January 2014 (EST)

Certainly not, I have never smoked weed or any other drug. I just feel there are many people who get the message across with less moral ambivalence then Shockofgod. The Pope for example just condemned the evils of abortion, a voice of far more authority and moral upstanding than some minor internet celebrity. Also whether Pagan is a weedhead or not is irelevent, Shockofgod lost all integrity over this episode.--JerryCa 21:21, 13 January 2014 (EST)

And the alleged theft of passwords by Shock has to be proven. I for one am not going to sit here and have a pot-smoking, hate-filled atheist lecture us over who's committing sins; talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Karajou 21:25, 13 January 2014 (EST)

As we are on the topic of smoke they sat it rarely appears without fire, however experience tells us that is not always true. Point taken Karajou, I will shut up about this now.--JerryCa 21:36, 13 January 2014 (EST)

As to emphasize my point, I certainly do not mean you, Jerry...I mean the hate-filled, weed-smoking pagan on the video lecturing us. Karajou 00:42, 14 January 2014 (EST)

So what atheist YouTube accounts were shut down by Shockofgod after he supposedly got their passwords? Remember, he who asserts must prove. To my knowledge, not a single atheist claims that his YouTube account was shut down by Shockofgod after Shockofogod supposedly got their password. Shockofgod doesn't feel a need to shut down atheist YouTube accounts. Shockofgod won over 70 Christianity vs. atheism debates.[3]

No atheist has ever beat Shockofgod in a debate! I dare a certain atheist wiki to challenge Shockofgod in a Christianity vs. atheism debate.

There is a reason why most American atheists raised by atheist parents leave atheism. See: Atheism has a lower retention rate compared to other worldviews. Most Americans raised atheists outgrow their atheism when they mature as people. Atheism is a weak ideology promoted by insincere and immature people. Where is the proof and evidence that atheism is true? Conservative 01:01, 14 January 2014 (EST)

I certainly have respect for what the guy does, but the fact is that he isn't particularly well known outside of Youtube "Atheist vs Christian" debates which to the average person are of very little importance. It also perhaps takes impact away from this page: Atheism and obesity to so prominently feature a rather overweight apologist. In any other context I'd say he has the right to be whichever body shape he likes and it doesn't change his arguments but it doesn't sit well alongside a wiki which criticizes the godless for their waistlines. Of course, he could have a medical condition in which case no argument. RHow 14:04, 17 January 2014 (EST)

I have never seen a picture or video of Shockofgod. I do recall his hand appears in this video where he makes a "dress up as an atheist for Halloween costume" (dunce cap). His fingers don't appear to be fat. :) He does say that if you dress up as atheist/dunce you will make people laugh and get the "good candy" of Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, etc. :) Do you have a recent picture/video of Shockofgod? There is the maxim, "He who asserts must prove" and you certainly did not prove that Shockofgod is overweight. Conservative 18:26, 17 January 2014 (EST)

Orphaned Page

Please add Dmann4Christ to the "See also"-section.--JoeyJ 12:09, 25 April 2015 (EDT)

Dmann4Christ is inactive at YouTube now. He was kind of a sidekick of Shockofgod and had a small YouTube audience. And Shockofgod, who is an ex-atheist, is still posting material on atheism but is less active on that front post the crackup/waning of New Atheism (Elevatorgate, death of Christopher Hitchens, etc.). Deleted Dmann4Christ entry. Conservative 12:18, 25 April 2015 (EDT)