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:You're forgetting the phrase '''''"compared to the rest of the world"'''''. Yes, the U.S. is sliding away from Christianity, and the Supreme Court particularly has legalized several unbiblical practices. However, you have to realize that ''compared to the rest of the world'', whether secular socialist Europe or the Islamic World, we are a very theologically conservative Christian nation. The percentages of people who adhere to conservative, theologically orthodox Christianity, as well as those who are pro-life, oppose homosexual "marriage," believe in a young Earth, and homeschool their children, are '''much''' higher than in other nations. Thus, ''compared to the rest of the world'', the U.S. is a conservative Christian nation. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:45, 14 April 2017 (EDT)
 
:You're forgetting the phrase '''''"compared to the rest of the world"'''''. Yes, the U.S. is sliding away from Christianity, and the Supreme Court particularly has legalized several unbiblical practices. However, you have to realize that ''compared to the rest of the world'', whether secular socialist Europe or the Islamic World, we are a very theologically conservative Christian nation. The percentages of people who adhere to conservative, theologically orthodox Christianity, as well as those who are pro-life, oppose homosexual "marriage," believe in a young Earth, and homeschool their children, are '''much''' higher than in other nations. Thus, ''compared to the rest of the world'', the U.S. is a conservative Christian nation. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:45, 14 April 2017 (EDT)
 
Really? Where is your proof or source that the majority of Americans oppose same sex 'marriage' and abortion? According to the Gallup survey and many other polls that I researched shows that around 60 percent of Americans support same sex marriage and and only around 29 percent oppose it. That support in the U.S is statistically high compared to many other countries that do not allow same sex 'marriage'.
 
Really? Where is your proof or source that the majority of Americans oppose same sex 'marriage' and abortion? According to the Gallup survey and many other polls that I researched shows that around 60 percent of Americans support same sex marriage and and only around 29 percent oppose it. That support in the U.S is statistically high compared to many other countries that do not allow same sex 'marriage'.
Regarding abortion about 57 percent of Americans support abortion either most or all cases while only 39 percent say that abortion should be legal. About 42 percent of Americans believe in creation which is slightly lower than the belief in evolution.
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Regarding abortion about 57 percent of Americans support abortion either most or all cases while only 39 percent say that abortion should be illegal. About 42 percent of Americans believe in creation which is slightly lower than the belief in evolution.
  
 
::Message to the so-called "coolguy": you will not engage in edit warring; you will not push your brand of liberalism here; you will not insert false information here. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 00:42, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
 
::Message to the so-called "coolguy": you will not engage in edit warring; you will not push your brand of liberalism here; you will not insert false information here. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 00:42, 15 April 2017 (EDT)

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Talk:United States of America/Archive 1

Most Christian Nation?

I don't believe we are the most Christian nation. Most polls I've researched put us at around 70% to 80%. This is compared to nations such as Ecuador, Samoa, or Bolivia with more than 90%.

Then prove it instead of pushing what appears to be personal bias on the page. Karajou 11:45, 9 May 2013 (EDT)

What would constitute conclusive proof to you? Also where is your claim of most Christian coming from? Do you mean by population, percentage, or are you in fact pushing your own bias? I have no problem with your info if you can prove it, it's really not a big deal to me.

You said you researched polls. Which polls? Show me. As far as bias goes, you just came to this site and are pushing your own bias on us as if you own this place. It stops now. Karajou 12:03, 9 May 2013 (EDT)

First of all, you seem angry. Isn't this a wiki? So why are you attacking contributors who are trying to keep the page factual? You say that I'm being biased, so can you tell me how exactly correcting an unverified and false claim is biased? I'm sorry I've upset you; here are some of the sites I've found: http://www.gallup.com/poll/159548/identify-christian.aspx http://www.operationworld.org/ecua (last link removed - dead link)

Yes, this is a wiki, and no, you provided nothing at all to "keep this page factual" until I entered here. Karajou 12:24, 9 May 2013 (EDT)
Perhaps it could be reworded as "Highly religious nation", or "very Christian nation" or something of the like. If you have any suggestions more eloquent than mine, please include, them. brenden 13:26, 9 May 2013 (EDT)
Your's are fine, but in this case the point I made was the previous poster had insisted his entries were factual, but before I came in he did not have anything to back it up. Karajou 13:47, 9 May 2013 (EDT)
If you look at "isidewith.com", you'll see that most U.S. citizens are e.g. pro-abortion or pro-"same-sex marriage". I gonna change it like Brenden suggested, because most U.S. citizens seem to be liberal, not conservative. --Elessar (talk) 12:57, 17 September 2015 (EDT)

Longest running constitution?

Not true. The San Marino constitution is MUCH older, dating to 1600 AD.

--Farmer88 09:13, 20 May 2012 (EDT)

Category:Most Free?

Various indexes don't rank the USA as the most free nation, the economic freedom index produced by the cato institute has the US at number 10, [[1]] and The Heritage foundation [[2]] also has the US at 10. The democratic index produced by The Economist Intelligence Unit places the US at 17th place, based on the catagories: electoral process and pluralism; civil liberties; the functioning of government; political participation; and political culture. [[3]]

The most conservative nation

If the USA is really the most conservative nation, than why does it have a liberal president? --Alex00 10:23, 22 March 2013 (EDT)

This nation is anything but conservative. It is chock-full of the liberal mass. I would suggest taking the word out.

DevilDog 02:06, 15 December 2014 (EST)

Natural Law

A greater expansion of references to Natural Law will put a lot of objections to bed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Progressingamerica (talk)

The Founding Fathers were Christians and their worldview was undoubtedly influenced by the Bible. While they created a nation based on man's law (secular) and not religious law, God was 'the' most revered and the origin of people's rights.... rights that come from the Creator. [4] --Jpatt (talk) 00:02, 8 August 2015 (EDT)

"Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams, October 11, 1798.

VargasMilan (talk) 02:53, 8 August 2015 (EDT)

United States as a Conservative Nation.

If United States is a conservative and Christian Nation compared to the rest of the world, then why same-sex marriage, abortion legal in this nation? Why is Christianity and moral values declining in America? Why does it have a liberal Supreme Court that banned prayers from public schools and legalized same-sex marriage and abortion? Would you call Canada a Conservative nation if same-sex marriage and abortion legal in that country? Definitely not. I will try to edit this article.

You're forgetting the phrase "compared to the rest of the world". Yes, the U.S. is sliding away from Christianity, and the Supreme Court particularly has legalized several unbiblical practices. However, you have to realize that compared to the rest of the world, whether secular socialist Europe or the Islamic World, we are a very theologically conservative Christian nation. The percentages of people who adhere to conservative, theologically orthodox Christianity, as well as those who are pro-life, oppose homosexual "marriage," believe in a young Earth, and homeschool their children, are much higher than in other nations. Thus, compared to the rest of the world, the U.S. is a conservative Christian nation. --1990'sguy (talk) 19:45, 14 April 2017 (EDT)

Really? Where is your proof or source that the majority of Americans oppose same sex 'marriage' and abortion? According to the Gallup survey and many other polls that I researched shows that around 60 percent of Americans support same sex marriage and and only around 29 percent oppose it. That support in the U.S is statistically high compared to many other countries that do not allow same sex 'marriage'. Regarding abortion about 57 percent of Americans support abortion either most or all cases while only 39 percent say that abortion should be illegal. About 42 percent of Americans believe in creation which is slightly lower than the belief in evolution.

Message to the so-called "coolguy": you will not engage in edit warring; you will not push your brand of liberalism here; you will not insert false information here. Karajou (talk) 00:42, 15 April 2017 (EDT)

Religious Data

One of my data was changed by some guy - he changed "unaffiliated Christian" to "unaffiliated" and claimed the unaffiliated to be irreligious. The irreligious people are in the "other" category in my source (Britannica's Book of the Year) which states that the unaffiliated box is for unaffiliated Christians. Now that the page is protected, could someone change it back?--Abcqwe (talk) 07:44, 22 April 2017 (EDT)

Fixed. Karajou (talk) 08:54, 22 April 2017 (EDT)

The religious data found in this article is inaccurate. According to the PEW Research,only 70 percent of Americans are Christians and 22 percent are nonreligious. See the article found in this website:United States demographics.