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'''Thunderf00t''' is one of the more popular [[YouTube]] [[atheism|atheists]]/[[evolution]]ists.  
 
'''Thunderf00t''' is one of the more popular [[YouTube]] [[atheism|atheists]]/[[evolution]]ists.  
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A criticism of Thunderf00t is when is posed with questions which show his views are in error/inconsistent, he dodges the questions by calling them illegitimate/"malformed" or ignoring them.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gUvVq0DnEM Evolutionists are "weak sauce"]</ref><ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPs73RBAFGM Eric Hovind Destroys thunderf00t (Full Debate)]</ref>
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Thunderf00t also dodged a debate offer from YouTube Christian [[Shockofgod]].<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etLvwyueltg Thunderf00t proves atheism is MaDnEsS]</ref>
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== Thunderfoot on the atheist movement ==
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''See also:'' [[Atheist movement]] and [[Atheist pessimism about the atheist movement]]
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YouTube's atheist [[Thunderfoot]] said about the [[atheist movement]] after [[Reason Rally 2016]] had a very low turnout:
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{{Cquote|I'm not sure there is anything in this movement worth saving. Hitchens is dead. [[Richard Dawkins|Dawkins]] simply doesn't have the energy for this sort of thing anymore. [[Sam Harris|Harris]] went his own way. And Denton just kind of blended into the background. So what do you think when the largest gathering of the nonreligious in history pulls in... I don't know. Maybe 2,000 people. Is there anything worth saving?<ref>[http://www.wnd.com/2016/06/even-atheists-bash-reason-rally/ Even atheists bash 'Reason Rally']</ref>}}
  
 
== Thunderf00t's discussions with Ray Comfort ==
 
== Thunderf00t's discussions with Ray Comfort ==
  
Thunderf00t debated the American evangelist [[Ray Comfort]] and [[Thunderfoot - Ray Comfort discussion|the debate did not go well for him and he was nervous during the discussion/debate]]. Atheist [[Matt Dillahunty]] indicated he was "disappointed" in Thunderf00t's debate performance and referred to his debate performance as "weak sauce".<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcR6uceEEag Atheist Matt Dillahunty shocks atheists with admission]</ref>  In nearly all [[Atheism and Debate|Christianity vs. atheism debates]], atheists fare very poorly.  Ray Comfort was very gracious in his commentary concerning the debate and took Thunderf00t out to lunch after the debate.<ref>http://raycomfortfood.blogspot.com/2009/07/debate-with-thunderfoot.html</ref><ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAP719vrO7Y</ref>  
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Thunderf00t debated the American Christian evangelist [[Ray Comfort]] and [[Thunderfoot - Ray Comfort discussion|the debate did not go well for him and he was nervous during the discussion/debate]]. Atheist [[Matt Dillahunty]] indicated he was "disappointed" in Thunderf00t's debate performance and referred to his debate performance as "weak sauce".<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcR6uceEEag Atheist Matt Dillahunty shocks atheists with admission]</ref>  In nearly all [[Atheism and Debate|Christianity vs. atheism debates]], atheists fare very poorly.  Ray Comfort was very gracious in his commentary concerning the debate and took Thunderf00t out to lunch after the debate.<ref>http://raycomfortfood.blogspot.com/2009/07/debate-with-thunderfoot.html</ref><ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAP719vrO7Y</ref>  
  
 
Thunderf00t had a second discussion with Comfort and he was more composed in the second discussion. The second discussion focused on the discussion of [[atheism and morality]].<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bn62F5pvp0 Thunderf00t -- Ray Comfort Discussion, Round 2! (1 of 2)]</ref><ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmPHBiPm1EUb Thunderf00t -- Ray Comfort Discussion, Round 2! (1 of 2)]</ref>
 
Thunderf00t had a second discussion with Comfort and he was more composed in the second discussion. The second discussion focused on the discussion of [[atheism and morality]].<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bn62F5pvp0 Thunderf00t -- Ray Comfort Discussion, Round 2! (1 of 2)]</ref><ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmPHBiPm1EUb Thunderf00t -- Ray Comfort Discussion, Round 2! (1 of 2)]</ref>
 
== Failure to address the 15 questions that evolutionists cannot satisfactorily answer ==
 
 
On October 1, 2011, the popular video creator [[Shockofgod]] created a video mentioning Thunderf00t and atheist [[Matt Dillahunty]] which discussed Thunderf00t's and Matt Dillahunty's  inability to answer [[Creation Ministries International]]'s list of [http://creation.com/15-questions 15 Questions that evolutionists cannot satisfactorily answer] which are a focus of their [[Question evolution! campaign]]. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gUvVq0DnEM VIDEO]
 
  
 
==  Thunderf00t's removal from Freethoughtblogs and his commentary on Freethoughtblogs  ==
 
==  Thunderf00t's removal from Freethoughtblogs and his commentary on Freethoughtblogs  ==
  
''See also:'' [[Atheist factions]]
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''See also:'' [[Atheist factions]] and [[Atheist movement]]
  
 
On July 1, 2012, atheist [[Ed Brayton]] declared about Thunderf00ts removal from [[Freethoughtblogs]]:
 
On July 1, 2012, atheist [[Ed Brayton]] declared about Thunderf00ts removal from [[Freethoughtblogs]]:
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None of this is a reflection on the worth of the many contributions that both of these people have made to the atheist cause. I hope and am confident that they will both continue to offer a lot of good things to this community.<ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2012/07/01/major-changes-at-freethought-blogs/ Major changes at freethoughtblogs - Ed Brayton]</ref>}}
 
None of this is a reflection on the worth of the many contributions that both of these people have made to the atheist cause. I hope and am confident that they will both continue to offer a lot of good things to this community.<ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2012/07/01/major-changes-at-freethought-blogs/ Major changes at freethoughtblogs - Ed Brayton]</ref>}}
  
The matter which appeared to spark the contention was how to properly deal with the significant amount of [[misogny]] within the atheist community (see: [[Atheism and women]] and [[Atheism and rape]] and [[Elevatorgate]] and [[Women's views of Richard Dawkins]] and [[Atheist leaders and immoral relationships]]).<ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/07/01/thunderf00t-check-your-email/ Thunderf00t, check your email - PZ Myers]</ref><ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuKH3trPpgY&list=UUmb8hO2ilV9vRa8cilis88A&index=1&feature=plcp Thunderf00t on how to handle misogny in the atheist community]</ref><ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/thunderf00t/2012/07/01/skepchickcon-and-the-harassment-lol-icy/ SkepchickCON and the Harassment LOL-icy]</ref><ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/thunderf00t/2012/06/29/is-it-freethoughtblogs-or-group-think-blogs/ Is it ‘Freethoughtblogs’ or ‘Group-think-blogs’?]</ref>
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The matter which appeared to spark the contention was how to properly deal with the significant amount of [[misogny]] within the atheist community (see: [[Atheism and women]] and [[Atheism and rape]] and [[Elevatorgate]] and [[Women's views of Richard Dawkins]] and [[Atheism, polyamory and other immoral relationships|Atheist leaders and immoral relationships]]).<ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/07/01/thunderf00t-check-your-email/ Thunderf00t, check your email - PZ Myers]</ref><ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuKH3trPpgY&list=UUmb8hO2ilV9vRa8cilis88A&index=1&feature=plcp Thunderf00t on how to handle misogny in the atheist community]</ref><ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/thunderf00t/2012/07/01/skepchickcon-and-the-harassment-lol-icy/ SkepchickCON and the Harassment LOL-icy]</ref><ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/thunderf00t/2012/06/29/is-it-freethoughtblogs-or-group-think-blogs/ Is it ‘Freethoughtblogs’ or ‘Group-think-blogs’?]</ref>
  
 
=== Matt Dillahunty on events surrounding Thunderf00t's removal from FreeThoughtblogs ===
 
=== Matt Dillahunty on events surrounding Thunderf00t's removal from FreeThoughtblogs ===
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According to the atheist [[Matt Dillahunty]] Thunderf00t acted dishonestly and inappropriately subsequent to his removal from Freethoughtblogs and he had "gone off the deep end".<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQEKXlSrziM Regarding Thunderf00t, FTB, harassment and privacy]</ref>
 
According to the atheist [[Matt Dillahunty]] Thunderf00t acted dishonestly and inappropriately subsequent to his removal from Freethoughtblogs and he had "gone off the deep end".<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQEKXlSrziM Regarding Thunderf00t, FTB, harassment and privacy]</ref>
  
=== Christian/theist responses to Thunderf00t being banned from Freethoughtblogs ===
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=== Thunderf00t's October 2014 commentary on Freethoughtblogs ===
  
A supporter of the [[Question evolution! campaign]] wrote:
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''See also:'' [[PZ Myers and social justice]] and [[Atheism, social justice and hypocrisy]]
{{cquote|While YouTube most popular evolutionist Thunderf00t largely preaches to the atheist choir and gets embroiled in a bitter dispute concerning getting booted off of Freethoughtblogs, [[Internet evangelism|online Christian evangelism]] efforts are beginning to achieve massive results. Millions of people are reporting becoming Christians after going to Christian internet evangelism websites while atheism internet evangelism performs poorly and leading atheism website see [http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/05/internet-atheism-and-skepticism-thrill.html losses of traffic].
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I love Thunderf00t's new video ''FreeThoughtBlogs and PZ Myers'' which sternly begins with his finger pointed up in the air: "This is your one warning!".
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In October 2014, Thunderf00t indicated that the bloggers at [[Freethoughtblogs]] (Freethoughtblogs is the most popular atheist blogging community) accidentally put him on their email list and that they spend a considerable amount of time emailing each other engaging in petty matters. In fact, he indicated that they spent more time emailing each other than engaged in actual blogging. He also questioned the impact of the bloggers of Freethoughtblogs on social justice.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqcLXNlEes Atheism+ Stream: How SJWs pushed their way into Atheism]</ref> Furthermore, he indicated that their attempt to make him a pariah within the atheist community had virtually no impact.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqcLXNlEes Atheism+ Stream: How SJWs pushed their way into Atheism]</ref>  
 
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Do you hear me PZ Myers? I have drawn a line in the atheism sand! Step over it at your peril!<ref>[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/07/more-evidence-that-innoculating-people.html More evidence that internet evangelism and inoculating people against atheism and evolutionism is an effective strategy to grind down atheism more rapidly]</ref><ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96FtpDLi_Vw Freethoughtblogs and PZ Myes]</ref>}}
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[[Vox Day]] wrote that Thunderf00t's removal from Freethoughtblogs exemplified [[PZ Myers]]'s unwillingness to intellectually engage his opponents and his lack of integrity.<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/07/free-fascistthoughtblogs.html Vox Fay on Freethoughtblogs</ref>
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* [[Atheist factions]]
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* [[Rebecca Watson and Thunderf00t factions of atheism]]
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=== Thunderf00t's October 2014 commentary on Freethoughtblogs ===
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In October of 2014, Thunderf00t indicated that the bloggers at [[Freethoughtblogs]] (Freethoughtblogs is the most popular atheist blogging community) accidentally put him on their email list and that they spend a considerable amount of time emailing each other engaging in petty matters. In fact, he indicated that they spent more time emailing each other than engaged in actual blogging. He also questioned the impact of the bloggers of Freethoughtblogs on social justice.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqcLXNlEes Atheism+ Stream: How SJWs pushed their way into Atheism]</ref> Furthermore, he indicated that their attempt to make him a pariah within the atheist community had virtually no impact.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqcLXNlEes Atheism+ Stream: How SJWs pushed their way into Atheism]</ref>  
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He also indicated that the accomplishments of [[Rebecca Watson]] are very thin and that she promotes feminism in an offensive manner.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqcLXNlEes Atheism+ Stream: How SJWs pushed their way into Atheism]</ref>  
 
He also indicated that the accomplishments of [[Rebecca Watson]] are very thin and that she promotes feminism in an offensive manner.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqcLXNlEes Atheism+ Stream: How SJWs pushed their way into Atheism]</ref>  
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
  
'''Comedy/satire:'''
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*[[Thunderf00t - Ray Comfort discussion]]
  
*[[Essay: Thunderf00t hiding from the 15 questions|Thunderf00t hiding from the 15 questions]]
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*[[YouTube atheism]]
  
'''Other related resources:'''
 
 
*[[Thunderf00t - Ray Comfort discussion]]
 
 
*[[Atheism and the internet]]
 
*[[Atheism and the internet]]
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*[[Shockofgod]]
 
*[[Shockofgod]]
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*[[AronRa]]
 
*[[AronRa]]
  
 
== External links ==
 
== External links ==
  
*[http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/3364 Is Thunderf00t a sociopath?] by atheist Richard Carrier
 
 
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2cq-_br7uI Thunderf00t is weak sauce] by Christian YouTube video creator [[Shockofgod]]
 
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2cq-_br7uI Thunderf00t is weak sauce] by Christian YouTube video creator [[Shockofgod]]
 
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t Thunderf00t] - [[YouTube]] channel
 
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t Thunderf00t] - [[YouTube]] channel
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==References ==
 
==References ==
 
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[[Category: Atheism]]
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Revision as of 05:09, August 12, 2016

Thunderf00t is one of the more popular YouTube atheists/evolutionists.

A criticism of Thunderf00t is when is posed with questions which show his views are in error/inconsistent, he dodges the questions by calling them illegitimate/"malformed" or ignoring them.[1][2]

Thunderf00t also dodged a debate offer from YouTube Christian Shockofgod.[3]

Thunderfoot on the atheist movement

See also: Atheist movement and Atheist pessimism about the atheist movement

YouTube's atheist Thunderfoot said about the atheist movement after Reason Rally 2016 had a very low turnout:

I'm not sure there is anything in this movement worth saving. Hitchens is dead. Dawkins simply doesn't have the energy for this sort of thing anymore. Harris went his own way. And Denton just kind of blended into the background. So what do you think when the largest gathering of the nonreligious in history pulls in... I don't know. Maybe 2,000 people. Is there anything worth saving?[4]

Thunderf00t's discussions with Ray Comfort

Thunderf00t debated the American Christian evangelist Ray Comfort and the debate did not go well for him and he was nervous during the discussion/debate. Atheist Matt Dillahunty indicated he was "disappointed" in Thunderf00t's debate performance and referred to his debate performance as "weak sauce".[5] In nearly all Christianity vs. atheism debates, atheists fare very poorly. Ray Comfort was very gracious in his commentary concerning the debate and took Thunderf00t out to lunch after the debate.[6][7]

Thunderf00t had a second discussion with Comfort and he was more composed in the second discussion. The second discussion focused on the discussion of atheism and morality.[8][9]

Thunderf00t's removal from Freethoughtblogs and his commentary on Freethoughtblogs

See also: Atheist factions and Atheist movement

On July 1, 2012, atheist Ed Brayton declared about Thunderf00ts removal from Freethoughtblogs:

As many of you are no doubt aware, there’s been a lot of strife in this community lately. Some of it has been in public, some of it was in private and some of it may well go from being private to public as a result of all of this. So let me give you the news and clear the air:

We are parting company with two of our bloggers: Thunderf00t and Greg Laden. We wish them both the best but, unfortunately, their behavior towards other members of the community has made it impossible to keep them as part of our network. This is not a matter of a disagreement or difference of opinion, but of behavior that we cannot condone or support.

None of this is a reflection on the worth of the many contributions that both of these people have made to the atheist cause. I hope and am confident that they will both continue to offer a lot of good things to this community.[10]

The matter which appeared to spark the contention was how to properly deal with the significant amount of misogny within the atheist community (see: Atheism and women and Atheism and rape and Elevatorgate and Women's views of Richard Dawkins and Atheist leaders and immoral relationships).[11][12][13][14]

Matt Dillahunty on events surrounding Thunderf00t's removal from FreeThoughtblogs

According to the atheist Matt Dillahunty Thunderf00t acted dishonestly and inappropriately subsequent to his removal from Freethoughtblogs and he had "gone off the deep end".[15]

Thunderf00t's October 2014 commentary on Freethoughtblogs

See also: PZ Myers and social justice and Atheism, social justice and hypocrisy

In October 2014, Thunderf00t indicated that the bloggers at Freethoughtblogs (Freethoughtblogs is the most popular atheist blogging community) accidentally put him on their email list and that they spend a considerable amount of time emailing each other engaging in petty matters. In fact, he indicated that they spent more time emailing each other than engaged in actual blogging. He also questioned the impact of the bloggers of Freethoughtblogs on social justice.[16] Furthermore, he indicated that their attempt to make him a pariah within the atheist community had virtually no impact.[17]

He also indicated that the accomplishments of Rebecca Watson are very thin and that she promotes feminism in an offensive manner.[18]

In addition, Thunderf00t commented on how Jen McCreight, the founder of the atheist feminist movement Atheism plus abandoned her movement within two weeks. And how Richard Carrier "the intellectual artillery" of the movement, quit promoting the movement within a month.[19]

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